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Smasher Dynamo
Oct 16, 2008

Eternal Commissioner of the Super League. A new avatar. A new age, of the same old embittered Smasher that failed to escape the bonds of the SL, FM3, Johnny Hopp and Eri Yoshida "The Knuckle Princess". "The flames of Smasher's ire scorch the skies... Igniting St. Bellhorn's funeral pyre."




The Finger-Bangers are all about the theory that if you put enough guns on a battleship, then you'll be the king of the seas. Their roster isn't exactly elegantly constructed, it has Williams playing right field, after all, but they've got a lot of big guns, and have won the Dynamo League two years running. Crappy defense and unsteady roster or not, they'll be a tough out for anyone.

By winning the Sic Transit Vir Division this year, they now have five division champions, the most in Super-League history.



Sumitomo Mitsui Group Park
Fukuoka, Japan

Sumitomo Mitsui Group Park will host Games 2 and 3 of this series.



The Dervishes are all about complementary pieces. Their pitching isn't the greatest, but they've got a good defense behind them to make them better. Their hitting isn't the greatest, but their pitching means there's less pressure to score oodles and oodles of runs. Their defense isn't the greatest...well, actually, it probably is. I can't think of a better infield defense around than Perez-Smith-Morgan-Leonard with Johnny Bench as the backstop. It's quite outstanding, actually. The Dervishes are a team that's greater than the sum of their parts.




Salah ad-Din Ayyubi Stadium
Dubai, UAE

Salah ad-Din Ayyubi Stadium will host Games 1, 4 and 5 of this series.


Game 1

Don May posted:


BANGERS HANDLE DERVISHES 4-2, TAKE OPENER

Dubai- The Dervishes did not want to fritter away their home-field advantage against the Finger-Bangers and yet, in the span of the first two innings, they did just that.

The Bangers got on the board early, taking a 4-0 lead after two, and rode that out, eventually winning by the score of 4-2, as the Dervishes were unable to get more than two runs off of Bangers' starter Curt Schilling. As a result, the Dervishes have now lost home-field advantage in this series and will need to win at least one game in Fukuoka if they wish to win this series.

Gaylord Perry, the losing pitcher and the man currently slated to start a potential Game 5 against the Finger-Bangers in Dubai, vowed that, given another chance, he would beat the Finger-Bangers, "I made some mistakes, didn't get enough spit on the ball, that's fer drat sure, but I'll be damned if I'd let the Bangers do this to me again. I ain't going to be beaten off by the Finger-Bangers again, drat it. Just one more chance, and I guarantee that things'll be different, way different."

Not everyone agreed with Perry's sentiment, including the winning pitcher, Curt Schilling, "Perry thinks he can beat me in a Game 5 rematch? The man is delusional. I'm such a great post-season pitcher that I'm still a legend in New England. So great that I was able to get the state of Rhode Island to give me 75 million dollars...to make a video game. Now, you might wondering in what sort of magical wonderland could I, a former pitcher, get that much money to make a video game, a field in which I have no real experience. I'll tell you what happened. I marched into Lincoln Chafee's, the governor of Rhode Island, office, slammed the ol' bloody sock on the table, and then he gave me a blank check, no questions asked. That's how good a pitcher I am in the post-season. And Gaylord Perry is going to beat me? It's not going to happen."

Game 2 will take place tomorrow in Dubai. Burleigh Grimes will try to even the series at one for the Dervishes, while Marauder will turn to newcomer Nolan Ryan to get him a 2-0 lead going into Fukuoka. It is worth noting that Ryan has been erratic since coming to Fukuoka, but Marauder insists that he still retains complete confidence in the fire-balling right-hander.


Box Score





Game 2

Don May posted:


MARAUDER'S CONFIDENCE MISPLACED, RYAN HAMMERED IN 9-1 DERVISHES ROUT

Dubai- Nolan Ryan may have been the engine that made the Boston Skyhawks go in season's past, but he's not done much good for the Finger-Bangers.

In today's game, Ryan got pounded for eight runs in less than four innings, giving the Dervishes a huge early lead that the Bangers, even with their powerful offense, had no real way of coming back from. Even more to Marauder's chagrin, Orel Hershiser, who Marauder had taken out of the playoff rotation in favor of Ryan, came in as relief, and gave up only one run over the next four and two-thirds innings.

Asked if these performances would inspire Marauder to juggle his rotation for the next round of the playoffs, should he survive, the Bangers' owner was circumspect, "All options will be on the table, I suppose, but it's easy to make to much of a single poor performance. As Ryan is not slated to start another game in this particular series, it is not a decision I need, nor care, to make until it becomes necessary. And, even if I had decided, it would be quite indiscreet of me to reveal proprietary information to the public. You will know when it is time for you to know, and not a minute before."

Stan Musial, who was a triple short of hitting for the cycle, was happy with the Dervishes' performance, "I'm glad we got a win. It's very good for a team to get a win when they need it. If it weren't for getting this win today, we would not be the winners of this game, and if we hadn't won, then we wouldn't be winners. And we all like winners, so it's good that we won this game." Asked if he liked playing in Dubai, Musial responded, "Dubai is a pretty great place to play. It's very good when you get to play in such a nice place. If I weren't playing in such a nice place, then that would not be as good, and that would be a real shame. I like playing in places that are nice to play in." Asked if he could talk more specifically about playing in Dubai, Musial added, "Beet is a good owner, and everything is good. I like playing for Beet. He's a very good man, and no one should say anything bad about him ever, because then he'll take you to the bad place...wait, I didn't say that! No one tell Beet I said that! Everything is great on the Dervishes! Please, promise me that you won't tell him that I said something about the bad place! Promise me!!!!!!!!!" Musial then broke down in tears before being escorted away by other Dervishes' players. As he was being dragged out, he pleaded with owners to, "Help me! Beet's going to take me to the bad place! Help me! Don't you realize what's going to happen? Help meeeeeeeeeeee!"

Beet was later asked about this bizarre press conference, and tersely noted, "Was a problem. Fixed now."

Game 3 will take place in two day's time in Fukuoka. Smokey Joe Williams will attempt to keep home field advantage for the Bangers, while Bob Gibson will try and give the Dervishes their first series lead.

Box Score





Don May posted:


GIBSON SHINES AS DERVISHES TAKE 2-1 SERIES LEAD

Fukuoka- Once again, the road to the Dynamo League Championship series will run through Dubai.

With today's win, the Dervishes have regained home-field advantage, and now only need to win one of the next two games in order to win their first playoff series in franchise history, while the Bangers will have to win each of the next two games, including Game 5 in Dubai, in order to advance to their third straight Dynamo League Championship Series.

Marauder was at turns frustrated and defiant, "Certainly, when a man amasses as much offensive talent as I have, you do not expect them to only score nine runs over the first three games of the series. Nevertheless, I have not lost a division-round playoff series since Super-League II, and I have no particular interest in having that streak broken, especially not by these Dervishes. No, they have gone far enough, and I believe that this series, starting with tomorrow's Game 4, is going to take a sudden and dramatic turn towards my team because, in the end, there are few forces in the universe capable of preventing our victory, and the Dervishes are simply not of that class.

Stan Musial went 2-for-5 and was asked about his comments following Game 3, of which he claimed no knowledge, "I don't understand what you are talking about. I love my team and my leader. Beet is a great man, and I don't know anything about any bad place. Why would Beet need to send anyone to a bad place anyway? Beet is a great leader, no one would ever need to be sent to any bad place. We all love our leader."

Game 4 is a potential elimination game. The Finger-Bangers will send Addie Joss to keep them alive until Game 5 while the Dervishes turn to Roy Oswalt to close the series out.

Box Score





Don May posted:


BANGERS FORCE GAME 5 WITH 2-1 WIN

Fukuoka- There will be a decisive Game 5.

With their backs against the wall, the Bangers turned to the enigmatic Addie Joss to keep them alive for one more game. Joss did his part, allowing no runs over seven and a third innings, which was just what the Bangers needed, as their offense continued to sputter, only able to get two runs on the board against Roy Oswalt. Still, it was enough, and the Bangers are now going to head back to Dubai with a chance to advance.

This was bitter news to Beet, the Dervishes' owner, whose team could have closed out the series with a win. The news got even worse as a post-game press conference where Gaylord Perry, the Dervishes' starter, was scheduled to speak. Instead, he was found chained spread-eagle on the far wall of the room, and had obviously been beaten severely. Lord Mayor Humungus, commander of the Losers, despot of Rockford and lord of the McHenry Marches, then entered the room and announced that he had done this to the Dervishes' pitcher. "Marauder, I have done this for you. I have beaten the finest pitcher that Beet had available. Mr. Perry will not be pitching Game 5. I have done this for you, Marauder, so that you will win. I need you to win, Marauder. I need to face your team in the Dynamo League Championship Series. I need to have one more chance to defeat you, Marauder. For two seasons, you have denied us our rightful place as champions. It is no longer enough for us to simply win the Super-League Championship, you see, we must defeat your team in doing so. When Mr. Perry guaranteed a victory in Game 5, he became a threat to that aspiration, and so I have removed him from the equation."

Marauder thanked Humungus for the help, "I appreciate the efforts of any owner who is willing to aid me in my quest to cement my legacy as the greatest Super-League owner of all time. Now, I will grant you, the Losers say that they only helped us in order to later defeat us themselves, but, as far as good ideas go, that is on par with the Kaiser sending Lenin back to Russia. It is a desperate gamble that will only hurt them in the future. The near future."

Game 5 will pit Curt Schilling of the Bangers against Wes Ferrell, substituting for the injured Gaylord Perry, in a winner-take-all battle to the death.

Box Score




Don May posted:


BANGERS ADVANCE ON 4-1

Dubai- Once again, it will be the Fukuoka Finger-Bangers facing the Rockford Losers in the Dynamo League Championship Series.

The Dervishes, without Gaylord Perry, were forced to rely on Wes Ferrell, who gave up three runs in eight innings, which was simply too many runs to give up against Curt Schilling, who had another great start against the Dervishes.

Beet responded to the loss in his usual succinct fashion, "gently caress. gently caress. gently caress gently caress."

As for Curt Schilling, who won his second game of the post-season, he was more concerned with other things, "We could talk about today's game but, instead, I would like to talk about the most dangerous governor in America, Lincoln Chafee. Did you know that Lincoln Chafee, as governor, authorized the payment of 75 million dollars to some fly-by-night video game developer with no experience in the field. Even worse, after this heroic video game developer, who had all the potential in the world, couldn't stay in business thanks to President Obama's excessive regulations, he sued their owner! And now I have to go to court, and I'm getting all of this bad press...loving Chafee."

Marauder, whose team advances to their third straight league championship series, was already thinking ahead to playing the Losers for the third straight season. "In our first meeting, we vanquished the Losers. In our second meeting, we vanquished them again. And now, we must face them once again. I must say, as far as threats go, the Losers are somewhere between a splinter in your toe and your soft drink going flat. I am sure that, to everyone else, they are a perfectly potent team. To me, however, they are little more than an annual annoyance. A yearly rite of passage, much like installing storm windows, or cleaning fallen leaves from your gutters. Yes, I believe that sums up the Losers best of all, they are a mass of decaying plant matter that I must remove, lest the clog up the Super-League any more that they already have. Why, I can already smell their rot from here..."

The Finger-Bangers will now play the Rockford Losers in a best-of-seven series to determine the Dynamo League champion. The Losers will have home-field advantage.

Box Score





Updated Playoff Bracket




Pick 'em: Championship Series Edition
Pick the winner, number of games (best-of-seven), and score of final game
Finger Lakes Phoenixes vs. Chicago Bobbleheads
Fukuoka Finger-Bangers vs. Rockford Losers

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Monicro
Oct 21, 2010

And you could feel his features in the air
A wide smile and perfect hair
He had complete control of the rising tides
And a medicine bag hanging at his side

In the flowing blue world of the death-dealing physician
Aw man, the Dervishes almost pulled that poo poo out. What a shame.

Pick 'Em!

Rockford Losers in 7, 4-3
Chicago Bobbleheads in 5, 6-2

gardenald
Jul 23, 2007

In the end, it comes down to throwing one pitch after another, and seeing what happens. With each new consequence, the game begins to take shape.
Pick 'em

Bobbleheads in 6, final game 4-2
Finger-Bangers in 5, final game 7-4

tatankatonk
Nov 4, 2011

Pitching is the art of instilling fear.
Pick 'em

Cleveland
Comancheros

Bobbleheads in 7
Losers in 7

Paul Zuvella
Dec 7, 2011

PICKEM

Fingerbangers in 6 Final score: 5-3

Bobbleheads in 5 Final score: 6-1

BrooklynBruiser
Aug 20, 2006
Woodchucks Pick 'Em!

Phoenixes in 7, 2-1

Bangers in 6, 4-2

Faustoan Bargain
Dec 24, 2009

I'd sell my soul for a pitcher with a power sinker...


Chicago Bobbleheads in 6, 4-1
Fukuoka Finger-Bangers in 7, 7-5


UPDATED Draft preferences
Ended up more picky than I've seen here, but dammit, if we can't go live, might as well exert as much control as I can with reasonable* effort.

* Effort exerted may not be reasonable

ROUND 1 (apply also to sandwich round if necessary):
1. 2B '02 Nap Lajoie
2. 2B '11 Eddie Collins
3. SP '95 Roger Clemens
4. SP '53 Whitey Ford
5. CF '62 Willie Mays
6. 3B '77 George Brett
7. SS '01 Alex Rodriguez
8. CF '53 Mickey Mantle
9. 2B '69 Joe Morgan
10. C '53 Yogi Berra
11. SP '22 Pete Alexander
or
BEST AVAILABLE

ROUND 2:
Top ranked player from 1-11 above, but no position player same position as already drafted (don't want more than one 2B, one CF, one C, etc. from this draft, but am fine with multiple SP if it comes to that). If none of those eleven are still on the board:
12. 2B '97 Roberto Alomar
13. SP '11 Chief Bender
14. CF '04 Carlos Beltran
15. SP '02 Addie Joss
16. SS '82 Robin Yount
17. 3B '71 Sal Bando
or
BEST AVAILABLE

ROUND 3:
Top ranked player from 1-17 as listed above, but no position player same position as already drafted. If none of those are still on the board:
18. C '10 Mike Napoli
19. C '34 Gabby Hartnett
20. 2B '68 Dick McAuliffe
21. 2B '10 Ian Kinsler
22. 2B '10 Robinson Cano
23. 3B '66 Brooks Robinson
24. SS '91 Cal Ripken
or
BEST AVAILABLE

ToiletofSadness
Mar 27, 2010
Smasher: what's the status of my starters for the DLCS? Since the Finger-Bangers went to a full 5 games, does that mean Paige is fully rested and can start game 1?

Mornacale
Dec 19, 2007

n=y where
y=hope and n=folly,
prospects=lies, win=lose,

self=Pirates
Bobbleheads in 5, 8-3
Losers in 7, 9-1

Surely random.org would never lead me astray!

Smasher Dynamo
Oct 16, 2008

Eternal Commissioner of the Super League. A new avatar. A new age, of the same old embittered Smasher that failed to escape the bonds of the SL, FM3, Johnny Hopp and Eri Yoshida "The Knuckle Princess". "The flames of Smasher's ire scorch the skies... Igniting St. Bellhorn's funeral pyre."

ToiletofSadness posted:

Smasher: what's the status of my starters for the DLCS? Since the Finger-Bangers went to a full 5 games, does that mean Paige is fully rested and can start game 1?

It does indeed.

Robert Deadford
Mar 1, 2008
Ultra Carp


Pick 'em!

Fingerbangers in 6, final game 5-1

Phoenixes in 6, final game 6-3

Ginge
Sep 8, 2011

Well, Chippy is already my favourite character!
Pick-'em update IV - Waiting for an Obituary



Bruzer - 19 points



Faustoan Bargain - 13 points



gardenald - 20 points



mentholmoose - 18 points



mks5000 - 10 points



Monicro - 17 points



Mornacale - 5 points



Pungry - 11 points



Robert_Deadford - 7 points



tatankatonk - 22 points



UltimoDragonQuest - 13 points



Standings

1. tatankatonk (22)
2. gardenald (20)
3. Bruzer (19)
4. mentholmoose (18)
5. Monicro (17)
6. Faustoan Bargain/UltimoDragonQuest (13)
8. Pungry (11)
9. mks5000 (10)
10. Robert_Deadford (7)
11. Mornacale (5)

A big round for tatankatonk sees him propel into the lead, but there's still lots of points to play for. This round seemed to have quite a lot of close-to-the-score bonuses, which is probably a good way to accumulate points fast.

The Unicorns continue to be worth picking in the Gauntlet.

mentholmoose
Nov 5, 2009

YKNOW THERES ONLY ONE DIRECTION I KNOW AND THATS DRIVIN STRAIGHT TO THE NET


Playoff pick 'em:

Bobbleheads in 4, 5-2
Losers in 6, 6-3

mentholmoose fucked around with this message at 16:04 on Nov 25, 2012

Viscount Slim
Mar 9, 2012


Submitted for Discussion because Someone Has To, the

Bearers Gauntlet Roster!

SS Luke Appling
CF Kenny Lofton
1B Willie McCovey
RF Lance Berkman/Bobby Bonds
LF Al Simmons
C Ted Simmons
DH Willie Mays
3B Stan Hack
2B Craig Biggio

C Victor Martinez (Catches for Marichal)
IF Joe Cronin
OF Dale Murphy
UT Phil Cavaretta

#1 Mordecai Brown
#2 Juan Marichal
#3 Gaylord Perry
#4 Curt Schilling
Mopup Ted Lyons
Closer Bruce Sutter
Setup Todd Worrell
Short Relief Roberto Hernandez
Short Relief Steve Hamilton
Middle Relief Paul Assenmacher
Long Relief Tom Seaver

Looking forward to a corporate obituary consisting of crickets and unintelligible muttering.

ForeverBWFC
Oct 19, 2011

Oh, the lads! You should've seen 'em running!
Ask 'em why and they reply the Bolton Boys are coming! All the lads and lasses, smiles upon their faces,

WALKING DOWN THE MANNY ROAD, TO SEE THE BURNDEN ACES!

Viscount Slim posted:



Submitted for Discussion because Someone Has To, the

Bearers Gauntlet Roster!

SS Luke Appling
CF Kenny Lofton
1B Willie McCovey
RF Lance Berkman/Bobby Bonds
LF Al Simmons
C Ted Simmons
DH Willie Mays
3B Stan Hack
2B Craig Biggio

C Victor Martinez (Catches for Marichal)
IF Joe Cronin
OF Dale Murphy
UT Phil Cavaretta

#1 Mordecai Brown
#2 Juan Marichal
#3 Gaylord Perry
#4 Curt Schilling
Mopup Ted Lyons
Closer Bruce Sutter
Setup Todd Worrell
Short Relief Roberto Hernandez
Short Relief Steve Hamilton
Middle Relief Paul Assenmacher
Long Relief Tom Seaver

Looking forward to a corporate obituary consisting of crickets and unintelligible muttering.


Sure, whatever, my apathy dissuades me from arguing...

kw0134
Apr 19, 2003

I buy feet pics🍆

ForeverBWFC posted:

Sure, whatever, my apathy dissuades me from arguing...
I also approve from the safety of the sidelines of a team that isn't getting relegated.

Smasher Dynamo
Oct 16, 2008

Eternal Commissioner of the Super League. A new avatar. A new age, of the same old embittered Smasher that failed to escape the bonds of the SL, FM3, Johnny Hopp and Eri Yoshida "The Knuckle Princess". "The flames of Smasher's ire scorch the skies... Igniting St. Bellhorn's funeral pyre."



Results










Adam Dunn stood to address the Daydreamers, knowing that, with a 10-16 record going into the final third of the Gauntlet Round, that they were doomed. "I know that none of us wanted to be in this spot, because getting relegated kind sucks rear end. But it's gonna happen. But, you know what, just because we gotta get relegated, that doesn't mean we gotta go down there alone..."







IceMole peered out of the window of Progressive Field, home of the Unicorns. It was raining softly, which was not uncommon this time of the year in Cleveland. one more Gauntlet round down....IceMole felt a pang of guilt at killing another two teams so that his own could live, but, then again, what choice did he have?







The Call of the Coburn will one day consume the Comancheros....but not today.







And that's the story of how the Splinter Cells were beaten by that most lowly of hitters, the common Adam Dunn.



Next Time!










Pick 'em: The Will and The Way
Pick TWO!
Cleveland Unicorns
Comancheros
Great Googly-Mooglies
St. Paul Bearers

Expansion Owners!

If you haven't already given me your draft preferences, I need, or some other proof of life from you within the next ten days or your team will be dropped from Super-League VIII.


Marauder!
blakelmenakle!
ToiletofSadness!
Marauder!

I need to know if your team will be taking up the Macho Men challenge should you win the Super-League Championship!

Mornacale
Dec 19, 2007

n=y where
y=hope and n=folly,
prospects=lies, win=lose,

self=Pirates
Pick 'Em
Gotta pick the Bearers, one of my favorite team names in the SuperLeague. Also the Unicorns I guess.

Robert Deadford
Mar 1, 2008
Ultra Carp


Pick 'em!

Unicorns and Googlie Mooglies to advance.

gardenald
Jul 23, 2007

In the end, it comes down to throwing one pitch after another, and seeing what happens. With each new consequence, the game begins to take shape.
Guess I'll go with Cleveland and the Bearers

UltimoDragonQuest
Oct 5, 2011





pick 'em
Guantlet: Cleveland, Comancheros

Series:
Finger Lakes in 7, 3-0
Fukuoka in 6, 4-2

Pungry
Feb 26, 2011

JUST PICK ONE. ANY ONE.


Pick Em: Cleveland and Great-Googly Mooglies

Playoffs: Bobbleheads in 6, 8-3
Losers in 7, 2-0

BrooklynBruiser
Aug 20, 2006
Woodchucks Pick 'Em!

Unicorns and Bearers.

Mornacale
Dec 19, 2007

n=y where
y=hope and n=folly,
prospects=lies, win=lose,

self=Pirates
Changing my draft priorities (bold indicates change):

Mornacale posted:

Draft Priorities
These priorities are for any picks I get:
1) Any super elite player who I would be insane not to pick
2) SS better than '64 Aparicio1
3) 2B better than '32 Grantham1
4) 1B better than '90 Hrbek, or a good right-handed platoon bat
5) 3B better than '64 Robinson1
6) best available RP2

At any pick, if the best SP available2 is better than the pick that would otherwise be indicated above, take the SP instead (if an SP has already been selected, then don't take a second unless he's better than Dave McNally).

1 Keeping in mind that infield defense is important for me.
2 Keeping in mind that groundball pitchers gain an advantage from my superior infield defense.


:siren: Also, anyone who is looking for a catcher, please ask me about 1932 Ernie Lombardi or 1968 Bill Freehan or 2004 Jason Kendall.

Paul Zuvella
Dec 7, 2011



PICKEM

Great Googly-Mooglies and the St. Paul Bearers.

Monicro
Oct 21, 2010

And you could feel his features in the air
A wide smile and perfect hair
He had complete control of the rising tides
And a medicine bag hanging at his side

In the flowing blue world of the death-dealing physician
Pick 'Em!

Unicorns and Bearers.

tatankatonk
Nov 4, 2011

Pitching is the art of instilling fear.
Pick 'Em!

Unicorns, Bearers

mentholmoose
Nov 5, 2009

YKNOW THERES ONLY ONE DIRECTION I KNOW AND THATS DRIVIN STRAIGHT TO THE NET


Gauntlet pick 'em:

Unicorns
Comancheros

BrooklynBruiser
Aug 20, 2006
Just to get this officially recorded in the thread, SmasherDynamo and I have made a bet. If the Packers win their game tonight, I get 5 Pick 'Em points and my choice of any one player who played for any of my teams at any point. If the Packers lose tonight, I lose 5 Pick 'Em points, and one player of Smasher's choice is eliminated from the Woodchucks.

BrooklynBruiser fucked around with this message at 03:32 on Nov 26, 2012

The Goog
Aug 6, 2007

It's a Goog Day, yes it is!


Well, boys...this is it. It's been a long ride, and I'd be lying to you if I said I could remember all of it...did we have Ted Williams at one point, or was that just the guy who hooked me up with that "crystal ship" stuff? Weird guy, that Ted.

Anyway, I have faith in you guys. We've been through too much for it all to end now. I'm not saying we're going to make it all the way through, but we've got a run in us. I'm not a betting man, but if I was, I'd have a fair amount of gold on the Mooglies to advance.

EDIT: Just to be on the safe side, I figured that I would once again post the Mooglies' roster:

25-Man Roster:

C 2009 Yadier Molina
1B 2001 Jeff Bagwell
2B 1997 Chuck Knoblauch
SS 1984 Cal Ripken, Jr.
3B 2001 Chipper Jones
RF 2009 Shin-Soo Choo
CF 1934 Earl Averill
LF 2003 Vladimir Guerrero
DH 1939 Hank Greenberg

BN 1911 Stuffy McInnis
BN 1912 Chief Meyers
BN 2009 Mark DeRosa
BN 2004 Andruw Jones
BN 2009 Grady Sizemore

SP 1911 Chief Bender
SP 2009 Cliff Lee
SP 2001 Mike Mussina
SP 1998 David Cone
SP 2011 Justin Verlander

RP 1978 Tug McGraw
RP 2009 Kerry Wood
RP 2009 Chris Perez
RP 2009 Kerry Wood
RP 2009 Justin Masterson
RP 1990 Dan Plesac

Minors:

1911 "Lightning" Amos Strunk
1934 Joe Vosmik
1985 Joe Carter
1934 Lloyd Brown
1978 Bill Lee
2009 Joe Smith

Lineups:

vs RHP

1. Earl Averill CF
2. Vladimir Guerrero LF
3. Jeff Bagwell 1B
4. Hank Greenberg DH
5. Chipper Jones 3B
6. Shin-Soo Choo RF
7. Cal Ripken, Jr. SS
8. Yadier Molina C
9. Chuck Knoblauch 2B

vs LHP

1. Cal Ripken, Jr. SS
2. Vladimir Guerrero LF
3. Jeff Bagwell 1B
4. Hank Greenberg DH
5. Chipper Jones 3B
6. Earl Averill RF
7. Andruw Jones CF
8. Yadier Molina C
9. Chuck Knoblauch 2B

Pitching Rotation:

SP1. Justin Verlander
SP2. Mike Mussina
SP3. Chief Bender
SP4. David Cone
SP5. Cliff Lee

LR Justin Masterson
MR Dan Plesac
SR Chris Perez
SR Tug McGraw
SU Kerry Wood
CL Kerry Wood

The Goog fucked around with this message at 03:52 on Nov 26, 2012

Shadow gamer
Jul 24, 2008

I PASSED UP A BARGAIN


Can I say I want my draft priority to be starting pitchers because I need pitchers badly...

ManifunkDestiny
Aug 2, 2005
THE ONLY THING BETTER THAN THE SEAHAWKS IS RUSSELL WILSON'S TAINT SWEAT

Seahawks #1 fan since 2014.


Draft Preferences: 3B, SP, SS, C then bullpen

Smasher Dynamo
Oct 16, 2008

Eternal Commissioner of the Super League. A new avatar. A new age, of the same old embittered Smasher that failed to escape the bonds of the SL, FM3, Johnny Hopp and Eri Yoshida "The Knuckle Princess". "The flames of Smasher's ire scorch the skies... Igniting St. Bellhorn's funeral pyre."


Owner: cbx
Location: Detroit, MI
Home Grounds: Tiger Stadium

Teams Used
CLASSIFIED

Past Records
Sealed by Executive Order #P6571



Owner: cbx
Location: Norfolk, VA
Home Grounds: Clancy Field

Teams Used
1910 Detroit Tigers
1986 Boston Red Sox
2003 Seattle Mariners
2007 Cincinnati Reds

Past Records
Expansion Cup VI
78-84, 5th Place, Doppels Division
Super-League VII
73-89, 4th Place, Mark Bellhorn Division, Gauntletted
Gauntlet VI
Round 3: 27-13, 1st Place, Survived
Round 4: 19-21, 2nd Place, Survived
Round 5: 18-22, 4th Place, Relegated


After the Splinter Cells were destroyed, a collection of documents were found in the ruins of the headquarters that shed some light on the mysterious origins of the team.

FROM: Ordius
TO: Osiris
RE: Project: Splinter Cells
Date: Super-League VI, Week 15

As of 1500 hours, Project: Splinter Cells has officially begun. Made contact with sleeper agent C.B.X., hereafter cbx. Activated dormant personality, and debriefed.

According to agent cbx, the flaws with the Bengals are fatal, and the chances of a successful salvage operation are minimal.

Recommendation: Extract Agent cbx and as many of the best components of the Bengals as is practicable, then scrub city of Detroit to remove all evidence of covert activity. With Detroit in decline, likelihood of public outcry is near zero.


FROM: Ordius
TO: Ordius
RE: Shopping List
Date: Super-League VI, Week 15

Just so I remember:

Asparagus
French Bread
Clementines
Salmon
Parmesan Cheese
Rosemary
Frozen Pizza
Iced Tea

Remember to check if I have a coupon for the frozen pizza.


FROM: Ordius
TO: Osiris
RE: Extraction
Date: Super-League VI, Week 17

The extraction of components from the Bengals has hit a snag. Commissar Dynamo has been pressured by other owners to punish the Cells for suspected collusion. At the moment, danger exists that no components can be salvaged, and further sanctions may be levied in addition.

Opposition centers from mrnoun and Senerio, owners of Landers and Saints, respectively. Senerio is not considered real threat, as history of abandoning league makes him a transient threat. mrnoun should be considered more formidable, as he appears to have Commissar's ear regarding this situation.

Making matters worse, TKBomber7285 has recently been found to operating a similar operation, making it appear as if this is a recurring problem. I have provided several suggested courses of action:

Alternative #1: Bribe Commissar enough to allow our plan to go through. This is certainly most expensive option, but may be the easiest.

Alternative #2: Blackmail mrnoun with contents of file #6543j ed. note- No such file was recovered from the Cells' former base of operations, and it is impossible to know what said file contained. It appears likely that, when confronted with the file, that mrnoun will be more accommodating to our requests.

Alternative #3: Do both.


FROM: OSIRIS
TO: ORDIUS
RE: Snag

Looks like that pathway has somehow been cleared for us, and we should be ready to make the transfer of components from the Cells soon enough.


More importantly, however, we must, as an office, come together to deal with a new crisis: What to order for lunch. I have attached a list of possibilities:


ATTACHMENT

Jake's Gyros: The advantage of ordering from Jake's is that their menu has a breadth of options that most other restaurants lack. They have hamburgers, hot dogs, gyros, Italian beef and sausages, as well as various chicken and fish sandwiches. However, our intelligence informs us that they were linked to several cases of food poisoning over the last month.

Subway: Subway has the cheapest prices of any takeout, but that is balanced by the cheap ingredients it uses in its sandwiches. For example, their so-called tuna salad is only 5% tuna and 95% prison-grade mayonnaise. Of late, they have also restricted their $5 foot-long promotion to only the least desirable sandwiches they make in order to save on costs.

Chipotle: The burritos from Chipotle are least likely to cause food-borne illness among the staff, but they are surprisingly expensive for a dish that is made primarily from beans, rice and a tortilla. Also, every possible variation of their burritos tastes virtually the same.


Consider this our new highest priority.


FROM: Stevie Mitch
TO: Osiris
RE: Lunch

I vote Chipotle!


FROM: Ordius
TO: Osiris
RE: Lunch

I'm thinking Subway, because I don't really want to spend too much money.


FROM: cbx
TO: Osiris
RE: Lunch

Hey, did you hear about that new Jamaican place down the street? Maybe we could try that.


FROM: Osiris
TO: cbx
RE: Jamaican Cuisine

While that might be a good idea in theory, I feel like there's just too much unfamiliarity with Jamaican cuisine to make it work.


FROM: cbx
TO: Osiris
RE: Jamaican Cuisine

Bummer, I was looking forward to getting some jerk chicken.


FROM: Ordius
TO: Osiris
RE: Bengals
Date: Gauntlet V

The Bengals have been officially eliminated from the Super-League as the result of a losing performance in Round 2 of this year's Gaunltet. I have asked cbx to give a brief post-mortem on the Bengals


FROM: cbx
TO: Osiris
RE: Bengals

The Bengals died because the game was rigged against the, They were definitely a better team that any of the other teams in their division, and they should have won. It was clearly a conspiracy against me and my team. The '11 Tigers are one of the best Tigers teams of all-time, and should have been easily able to carry this roster by themselves. We all know that Miguel Cabrera, as the best player of his era, should have done much better than he did. There was definitely nothing wrong with the Bengals. It was the Super-League's fault.


FROM: Ordius
TO: cbx
CC: Osiris
RE: Expansion Cup
Date: Expansion Cup, Month 6


Analysis of results of Cells' performance in Expansion Cup as follows.

1. Despite having numerous components transferred from Bengals to Cells, performance was still subpar, as Cells finished with losing record.

2. Compounding the problem, as per an agreement with the Commissar, the Cells will receive no dispersal draft picks, meaning that while our competition will improve, we will not.

3. As a result, barring something drastic happening, the chances of the Cells' survival seems poor.


FROM: cbx
TO: Ordius
RE Expansion Cup

No way, we've got Miguel Cabrera. Now, I know there are a lot of statheads out there that will try to tell you that Mike Trout was the better hitter in 2012, but I think that if you look carefully at the numbers, you'll disagree. First, while Cabrera was able to get the Tigers into the Playoffs, Trout couldn't even get his team into second place. Second, Miggy is much more clutch than Mike Trout, who basically never helped his team in the clutch. Third, Miguel Cabrera is an underrated fielder at third, capable of doing a decent job at his position. Hell, he's probably no worse a fielder than Jim Thome was when you played third base. With a full season of Cabrera, I have no doubt that we'll be able to crush the other three teams in our division.

It's almost like it's not even fair.


FROM: Stevie Mitch
TO: Osiris
RE: Community

I can't believe they delayed Community until February! And Dan Harmon is gone! This is bullshit!


FROM: Osiris
TO: Stevie Mitch
RE: Community

Dude, the show got three full seasons, and it's going to get thirteen more episodes, and, as much as I like Community, the show wasn't going to last forever. Better it die young than stagger on as some sort of Zombie.


FROM: Stevie Mitch
TO: Osiris
RE: Community

That's bullshit! This show had tons of good ideas left in it, it would have been two or three more seasons before it ran out of gas. It's not even going to reach 100 episodes!


FROM: Osiris
TO: Stevie Mitch
RE: Community

Dude, you've got to let it go.


FROM: Ordius
TO: cbx
CC: Osiris
RE: Told you so
Date: Super-League VII, Week 5

Analysis of the most recent results indicates that the chances of the Splinter Cells' survival is now under 50%. As I have said before, we did not have the roster necessary to be dominant in the Super-League, despite the presence of Miguel Cabrera.


FROM: cbx
TO: Ordius
CC: Osiris
RE: gently caress you

Miguel Cabrera is great! The fact that he isn't dominating is just a small sample size. When he comes around, well, I think we'll show them all who the real best team in the Mark Bellhorn Division is.


FROM: cbx
TO: Osiris
CC: Ordius
RE: Big Trade
Date: Super-League VII, Week 14

I just finalized a deal with the Oranges. Clemens for Brown straight up. I think this should solve all of our pitching problems forever.

FROM: Ordius
TO: cbx
RE: Big Trade

Wait, the same Mordecai Brown that's been terrible for the Oranges? And we gave up our best pitcher? With the defense we have, there appears to be little chance that Brown will be of much help to our team, especially with our fielding what it is, I fear you may have doomed our team.


FROM: cbx
TO: Ordius
RE: Big Trade

Doomed it...or saved it?


FROM: Ordius
TO: cbx
RE: Big Trade

Doomed it, and the Cells have run out of healthy position players thanks to other trades you made.


FROM: cbx
TO: Ordius

I think I saved it.

Also, I'm pretty sure that Carlos Guillen can play left field.


FROM: Ordius
TO: cbx

Carlos Guillen can play left field in the sense that he can physically occupy the position, but nothing more than that.


FROM: Ordius
TO: Osiris
RE: cbx
Date: Super-League VII, Week 20

Has anyone seen cbx, he seems to have disappeared around the time that the Cells' defeat became inevitable.


FROM: Ordius
TO: Steve Mitch
RE: Where did everyone go?
Date: Super-League VII, Week 25

Hey, where did everyone go? I haven't seen anyone in the office for days.


FROM: Smasher Dynamo
TO: cbx
RE: Alt Accounts
Date: Gauntlet VI, Round 5

But seriously, cbx, don't use an alt account again, okay?

mrnoun
Jul 24, 2007


Some say it was madness to try and wed Bolshevism and Existentialism. They could not have been more right.

Owner: NotThatSamBeckett
Location: Polyarny, Muramansk Oblast, Russian Federation
Home Grounds: The Sub Pen

Teams Used
1901 Boston Beaneaters
1902 Cincinnati Reds
1902 Cleveland Bronchos
1981 New York Mets
1985 St. Louis Cardinals
1986 Pittsburgh Pirates

Past Records
Expansion Cup VI

102-60, Imaginos Division Champions
Defeated Barrow Daydreamers 4-1 in TLCS
Defeated Vice City Goose Eggs 4-3 in ECF
Expansion Cup VI Champions
Super League VII
75-87, 4th in the Memento Mori Division
Gauntlet VI
Round 4: 18-22, 3rd place, Relegated


The Postmodernists were dead, and there was no longer any denying it.

Two men sat in NotThatSamBeckett's office, waiting for their team's owner. Their last Gauntlet game had ended less than an hour earlier, and the other players had collectively chosen them to represent the players at this final meeting: Nap LaJoie, representing the team's dead ball players, and George Brett for the modernists. Neither man was especially bothered by their situation, as each knew he was bound for an early spot in the Dispersal Draft. Rather, foremost in each man's mind was the same thought: Where is Beckett?

Brett had taken careful stock of the room when he first entered. This would be the first time he'd met his soon-to-be former owner, and he wanted to get a feel for the man before the meeting. But to all appearances, it looked as if Beckett had made his exit long ago. The furniture, including the chairs in which Brett and his counterpart now sat, had a dusty, underused look to them. A pair of pots, intended for plants, sat empty by the door, and a single, moribund spider plant hung near the big picture window overlooking the parking lot. Filing cabinets lay open, their filing folders empty but for a few scraps of paper, each filled with long lists of unexplained and apparently arbitrary numbers. There was no chair at all behind the owner's desk, which was worrisome. But worst of all was the desk itself: completely bare, except for a chessboard, set up and ready to play.

"So," said Brett, "This is going to be a Waiting for Godot thing, isn't it?" LaJoie looked up from his book, quizzically. "Never mind, that was after your time." A clearly annoyed LaJoie sighed, pointedly turned his chair so he was facing away from Brett, and returned to his book.

George tried to recall everything he could about Godot, but he kept getting it crossed up with Camus in his head. So instead, he started going over everything he knew about chess. He'd never really been interested in the game before, but he now found himself deeply regretting that particular life choice.

"No, it's nothing to do with Godot," said Denny Rainwater.

Both men looked up in surprise. The enigmatic reliever had vanished months previously, before the Gauntlet even began. But here he was, looking just the same as he ever had, except around his neck was a pendant with a strange green gem. "Unfortunately, I'm afraid old Mr. Beckett, he ain't around no more," he said. "But he weren't around all that much in the first place, so we folks'll just have to do like always, and find our own answers."

Brett stared at him for a long moment, searching for the right words. He settled on, "Why?"

"Well, because there ain't no one around to find 'em for us, Georgie."

"No, no, that's not what I meant," said Brett. "I mean, why... why everything? Why like this? A team with a weird mix of oddball deadballers and seemingly random modern players? A team with no power and a .255 batting average? Three modern bullpens, but Jeff Reardon as the closer? I don't understand. I don't understand any of it! What was the point?"

"Well, that sure was a lot of questions, weren't it? Don't know how much I can help you with most of that, especially the whole 'Jeff Reardon' thing," said Rainwater with a smirk, "but I figure there's one thing I can help you with, sure enough. You want to know the point? You really want to know the point? Then stand yourselves up, walk on over to that window, and take a good long look out there, tell me what you see."

As one, Brett and LaJoie rose from their chairs, almost as if bidden by some invisible force. The window showed, as they expected, a whole bunch of parking lot.

"I see people," said Brett. "Thousands and thousands of people filed out of this stadium after the game, into that parking lot. And yeah, the game ended a while ago, but you can see, there are still quite a few of them out there. They're chatting with friends, maybe having a last drink before they head home."

"I see miles and miles of loving Russia," said LaJoie.

"Well, yeah, that too," said Brett. "But am I right? Is that the point, that we were part of something larger than just us? That what we did mattered, and affected the lives of all the thousands who turned out each day to watch us play?"

"That's kind of depressing," said LaJoie. "Having your life affected by watching us play. Doesn't Russia already have a dangerously high suicide rate?"

"What do you think, Rainwater?"



But when they turned to look, he wasn't there.



Ten minutes later, Brett and LaJoie sat at the desk, commisserating over a bottle they'd found tucked away in the filing cabinets. It had been filed under 'P', presumably for "paint thinner", but at this point, they didn't care as long as it was alcoholic.

"loving Magical Negroes," said Brett. "Always waltzing into white folks' lives and teaching them important lessons, then vanishing without a trace. As if the only thing minorities are good for is enriching the lives of white people. Sadly common in American literature, and especially film."

"I didn't even know he was black," said LaJoie. "Coulda sworn he was a Laplander or something."

"Please, they prefer to be called the Sami," said Brett. "And it's probably one of those 'subjective reality' things. You know, like, your own personal experience cannot ever hope to conform precisely to objective reality because your interpretation of events can't help but be tainted by prior assumptions and prejudices? It's probably one of those things."

"I think on the whole I'd have preferred the Godot spoof," said LaJoie.

Brett thought for a moment. "Yeah, me too."

"Hey guys, sorry, I had to step out and take a piss," said Rainwater. "So, did you look out the window?"

Luckily, the guys were drunk enough by now to take this in stride. LaJoie said, "Yeah, but then you disappeared and we got drunk, so it doesn't seem as important anymore."

"I thought I saw a bunch of people that meant we were all interconnected or some bullshit like that," said Brett. "But then I got drunk too, and it started sounding like bullshit."

"Oh, you guys!" chuckled Rainwater. "But you're closer than you think. Take a little peek now, and all you'll see is a big, empty parking lot. A big slab of concrete with a little mostly-faded paint slapped on it. There ain't nothing out there but what we put there. And that's the secret. The fact is, life ain't a story. There's no moral, no storybook meaning. It's just life, and there ain't no meaning we can get out of it that we don't put into it. And if this sounds like bullshit too, it's because it is: it's a storybook meaning for something as essentially meaningless and random as the Super League. So you know what, gently caress it, get drunk, get relegated, get dispersed, and do it all over again. As for me, I'm needed elsewhere."

"So you are a Magical Negro," said Brett.

"No, I'll be signing with the new Intercontinental Champs, dummy. See you in Super League VIII!"

Cthulhu Dreams
Dec 11, 2010

If I pretend to be Cthulhu no one will know I'm a baseball robot.
Expansion Draft Review!

I was bored. All views are my own and not endorsed by Smasher.

Catchers
'53 Yogi Berra (IDA)
'34 Gabby Hartnett (IDA)
'70 Thurman Munson (RRS)
'43 Bill Dickey (PAR)
'43 Walker Cooper (MAD)
'71 Gene Tenace (POU)
'85 Darrell Porter (PAR)
'10 Mike Napoli (POU)
'90 Brian Harper (RRS)
'76 Bob Boone (RRS)
'11 Jonathan Lucroy (MAD)
'40 Birdie Tebbetts (RRS)
'85 Ernie Whitt (VIC)
'22 Hank Severeid (VIC
'19 Ray Schalk (PAR)



Sure Things

Yogi Berra is a great catcher, and in '53 he is at his peak and just about to ring up two more MVP awards. Usefully he hits left handed, giving you lots of options for a catcher platoon.

Gabby Hartnett is almost a sure thing. Backstop of the multiple championship winning Skyhawks for many years, Hartnett is a good defensive catcher who can hit for average, has some power and will draw some walks. Consistently a solid performer in the super league. I considered rating him a sure thing.

Helpful Players


Thurmon Munson and Billy Dickey are both good, but not great.

Filler That Won't Kill You

Walker Cooper isn't terrible. Gene Tenace holds a surprising number of quite weird records - I think he's the only catcher with 900 hits to get on base more often by earning a free pass than via a hit. Considering he's a big advocate of swinging aggressively during at bats, his career walk totals are ridiculous. In the SL the number of control pitchers reduces how helpful this is, but it's still a good skill. This category probably bottoms out at Mike Napoli.

Best of the rest: Hank Severid

First Basemen
'62 Willie McCovey (IDA)
'11 Prince Fielder (MAD)
'89 Mark McGwire (POU)
'95 Don Mattingly (RRS)
'79 Keith Hernandez (PAR)
'22 George Sisler (VIC)
'05 Jeff Bagwell (RRS)
'99 Fred McGriff (RRS)
'28 George Sisler (RRS)
'02 Joe Kelley (PAR)
'88 Glenn Davis (VIC)
'71 Don Mincher (POU)
'85 Cecil Fielder (VIC)
'91 Sam Horn (IDA)
'43 Ray Sanders (MAD)
'02 Jake Beckley (PAR)


Sure Things

Willie McCovey is pretty great. Quoting Smasher: "McCovey really deserves a chance to play for a good team. He's been a bit spotty in the Super-League, but that's mainly because owners keep jerking him around. gently caress, he was once traded straight-up for Orlando Hudson. Still, he's a mortal lock to hit 25 home runs, which is drat good in the Super-League."

I think you all know what you'll get from Prince Fielder: Power hitting and terrible fielding.

Helpful Players

'89 Mark McGwire is probably okay. Hits for AVG, SLG and has patience at the plate. Will field at an acceptable standard.

Filler that will kill you

'05 Jeff Bagwell and Crime Dog '99 Fred McGriff are Super League Filler. Same for Mattingly. But, at this point, I will diverge from my chosen topic. First base is one of the most competitive positions in the super league, in part due to the sheer number of Jimmie Foxxes that are floating around. As the Juggernauts are probably going to exit existence with five of them, this might change. In the meantime, the upshot is that unless your 1B guy is comparable to an aging Jimmie Foxx or something, he probably shouldn't be starting for you. So whoever you are starting at 1B needs to be pretty good.

On a related note, when thinking about your 1B guy you want sure gloves, because the most important thing at 1B is to stand on the bag and make those throws into outs, and you want power hitting. In the SL, guys who make errors and don't hit for power come with a helpful warning label, called 'Deadballers.' Therefore, the next guy I see with a deadballer first baseman will be mocked. '22 George Sisler is garbage. He doesn't walk, he doesn't have any power and he makes errors constantly. The fact him and his older brother are both in the dispersal draft pool should tell you a lot.

Best of the Rest: If you are starting these guys, you will die.

Second Basemen
'11 Eddie Collins (POU)
'02 Nap Lajoie (PAR)
'69 Joe Morgan (IDA)
'85 Paul Molitor (RRS)
'10 Robinson Cano (VIC)
'97 Roberto Alomar (MAD)
'60 Nellie Fox (VIC)
'10 Ian Kinsler (POU)
'68 Dick McAuliffe (RRS)
'85 Tom Herr (PAR)
'12 Neil Walker (MAD)
'22 Marty McManus (VIC)
'04 Freddie Sanchez (RRS)
'11 Rickie Weeks (MAD)
'85 Harold Reynolds (IDA)
'53 Billy Martin (IDA)



Sure Things

The top three picks are some of the greatest second sackers ever in the sport. Joe Morgan might be a bit young. Really you cannot go wrong with any of these three guys. Certainly it's hard to say definatively any one of these dudes is better than the others. Joe Morgan is the most complete player, with sure hands, some power, plate discipline, low CS%, good at the double play all that good stuff. The other two will hit a fuckton of singles and doubles and get on base while providing various levels of 'fielding' Expect Errors and thrown out runners.

Helpful Players

'85 Paul Molitor (RRS) and '10 Robinson Cano (VIC) should both be good despite Cano making GBS threads the bed for the goose eggs this year. Molitor is only here because he has to be somewhere, he's a useful utility player as well as a 2B guy.

Filler That Won't Kill You

'97 Roberto Alomar (MAD) and '60 Nellie Fox (VIC) are both bad years of decent second base guys. They should be usable. Don't start them except as platoon pieces or whatever.

Best of the rest: McAuLiffe might be a usable backup.

Third Basemen
'77 George Brett (PAR)
'55 Eddie Yost (RRS)
'66 Brooks Robinson (RRS)
'71 Sal Bando (POU)
'83 Buddy Bell (VIC)
'10 Adrian Beltre (POU)
'74 Ron Cey (VIC)
'53 Gil McDougald (IDA)
'43 Whitey Kurowski (MAD)
'92 Todd Zeile (RRS)
'85 Rance Mulliniks (VIC)
'12 Pedro Alvarez (MAD)
'06 Maicer Izturis (IDA)


Sure Things

There is an argument that George Brett is the best SL 3B guy. He isn't, because that title probably goes to Wade Boggs bat, but he's a complete hitter who has patience, hits for average, hits for power, and squeaks out some extra doubles with his legs, he defends OK, he does it all to a very good standard.

Helpful Players

Both of these guys are otherwise filler 3B guys with one skill turned up to elite. Yost has great plate discipline and gets on base. Robinson is a good defender, or so I hear. If these helps your team, they are a good guy at that slot. If not, don't pick them.

Filler that will probably kill you eventually

The next four guys, Bando through Cey are decent 3B guys in real life, but this is a league in which the standard is set at Harmon Killibrew or Ron Santo levels.

Best of the rest: Rance Mulliniks!


Shortstops
'01 Alex Rodriguez (POU)
'82 Robin Yount (MAD)
'82 Robin Yount (RRS)
'91 Cal Ripken (IDA)
'85 Ozzie Smith (PAR)
'10 Michael Young (POU)
'19 Charlie Hollocher (RRS)
'71 Bert Campaneris (POU)
'85 Tony Fernandez (VIC)
'74 Bill Russell (RRS)
'70 Luis Aparicio (POU)
'53 Phil Rizzuto (IDA)

Sure Things

Arod is pretty good, with an elite bat and everything else OK. The Younts in the SL fall into that Rob Santo class of players who'll help you win, but not be amazing at anything. Yount can hit, he can take a walk, he can field OK. They basically deliver you 6 feet of SL shortstop. They are good, but not great. Carl Ripken is pretty good, but starting to get on a bit due to the ironman thing which is bad in a shortstop. He's basically Yount with a slightly worse glove.

Helpful Players

Ozzie Smith is a player that will help a ground ball pitching staff that throws to contact, and will otherwise choke your offense with his weak hitting ways. Use the force carefully.

Filler that will probably kill you eventually

All the other shortstops are terrible, despite Bill James' affection for Campy.

Left Fielders
'39 Ted Williams (RRS)
'43 Stan Musial (MAD)
'80 Rickey Henderson (IDA)
'10 Josh Hamilton (POU)
'11 Ryan Braun (MAD)
'78 Dave Parker (RRS)
'68 Willie Horton (IDA)
'08 Matt Holliday (VIC)
'70 Lou Brock (RRS)
'85 George Bell (VIC)
'22 Ken Williams (VIC)
'11 Carl Crawford (RRS)
'71 Rick Monday (POU)
'86 Jim Rice (VIC)
'04 Jose Bautista (RRS)
'72 Felipe Alou (RRS)
'65 Bob Allison (RRS)
'53 Gene Woodling (IDA)


Sure Things


Ted Williams is great. This is Rookie Williams though, so temper expectations slightly. But he's still great. Stan Musial (my favourite :allears:) is also very young, but this year is his first MVP year - though all the good players were at the war. He's also great player, more complete than Ted Williams, but how much does LF defence really matter?

Helpful Players

Rickey Henderson is a step down from the first two, and again, is very very young, but he's still a great power/speed combo and he owns many, many major league records of a reason. You could move him to 'helpful' if you wanted.


Filler that will probably kill you eventually


The other guys are all deeply flawed in some respect. '10 Josh Hamilton (POU) '11 Ryan Braun (MAD) and '78 Dave Parker (RRS) are all acceptable hitters with questionable defence. Matt Williams cannot get on base in the SL. Jim Rice is old. They are all decent pieces, but not great pieces.

Center Fielders
'62 Willie Mays (PAR)
'53 Mickey Mantle (IDA)
'01 Billy Hamilton (PAR)
'98 Bernie Williams (RRS)
'04 Carlos Beltran (POU)
'80 Cesar Cedeno (PAR)
'12 Andrew McCutchen (MAD)
'02 Sam Crawford (PAR)
'19 Max Carey (PAR)
'78 Amos Otis (VIC)

Sure Things

Do I need to rehash the brilliance of Mays and Mantle? No? Good.

Helpful Players

It's not that Billy Hamilton, though I actually suspect the two Billy Hamiltons are related karmically or something. If you look at photos of them both, they actually kinda look the same. Notice that the Reds have noticed this too and moved him to his natural position of centre field. Anyway, despite having zero power, he'll get on base, steal a lot of bases, isn't an awful fielder and has a lot to be said for him.

'98 Bernie Williams (RRS) '04 Carlos Beltran (POU) and '12 Andrew McCutchen (MAD) are all surprisingly similar players. They'll be okay, but not great.

Filler that will probably kill you eventually

Don't draft anything. '80 Cesar Cedeno (PAR) or Sam Crawford is the best of the rest, but really?

Right Fielders
'58 Al Kaline (VIC)
'97 Larry Walker (RRS)
'71 Reggie Jackson (POU)
'96 Gary Sheffield (MAD)
'06 Vladimir Guerrero (IDA)
'03 Ichiro Suzuki (VIC)
'84 Joe Carter (RRS)
'02 Elmer Flick (PAR)
'72 Roberto Clemente (IDA)
'93 Ellis Burks (RRS)
'11 J.D. Drew (RRS)
'85 Danny Tartabull (IDA)
'11 Corey Hart (MAD)


Sure Things

Nothing in this group is a sure thing, though Al Kaline is pretty good.lefties very well.

Helpful Players

The next guys are all 'good but not great' Larry Walker has the Rockies helping him out, buthe did spend a while in Canada and looks like a legit hitter. If you want to see how he goes, I have a clone of this walker on the Cultists. He's solid, he has some power, gets on base and doesn't hit. Jackson and Sheffield are not the sort of Super Elite player you're looking for in RF for a SL team, Ichiro gave us this: http://soundcloud.com/gibbstack/ichiros-theme but not much power. Pick one that fits your team and park.

Filler that will probably kill you eventually

Elmer Flick can play second base OK as well. He's like Nap Lajoie lite.

Starting Pitchers

i've broken these guys up into groups

Great

'22 Pete Alexander (IDA)
'95 Roger Clemens (MAD)

Excellent:

'62 Juan Marichal (VIC)
'53 Whitey Ford (IDA)
'02 Addie Joss (PAR)

Good:

'66 Steve "Sting" Carlton (IDA)
'79 Don Sutton (MAD)
'02 Noodles the Pitcher (PAR)
'11 Chief Bender (RRS)
'71 Catfish Hunter (POU)

Various Question marks:

'96 Kevin Brown (MAD)
'91 Mike Mussina (IDA)
'85 Dave Stieb (VIC)
'84 Rick Sutcliffe (RRS)
'68 Mickey Lolich (POU)
'86 Rick Reuschel (PAR)
'83 Frank Tanana (VIC)

Utility is has mostly evaporated:

'06 Jered Weaver (IDA)
'71 Vida Blue (POU)
'01 Kid Nichols (PAR)
'85 John Tudor (PAR)
'11 Yovani Gallardo (MAD)
'10 C.J. Wilson (POU)
'47 Bob Lemon (MAD)
'22 Urban Shocker (VIC)
'04 Cy Falkenberg (PAR)
'01 Vic Willis (PAR)

Anything below here is seriously questionable:

'70 Tommy John (POU)
'95 Jack McDowell (RRS)
'11 Doug Fister (VIC)
'78 Luis Tiant (VIC)
'86 Fernando Valenzuela (PAR) <-- Best of the rest IMHO, Smasher disagrees.
'96 Al Leiter (MAD)
'65 Phil Niekro (VIC)
'64 Jim Bouton (RRS)
'70 Wilbur Wood (POU)
'43 Harry Brecheen (MAD)
'11 Nap Rucker (PAR)
'57 Frank Sullivan (RRS)
'53 Ed Lopat (IDA)
'34 Waite Hoyt (PAR)
'00 Barry Zito (RRS)
'99 Barry Zito (MAD)
'78 Dennis Leonard (RRS)
'43 Howie Pollet (MAD)
'91 Mike Flanagan (IDA)
'43 Max Lanier (MAD)
'72 Steve Kline (RRS)
'70 Joe Horlen (POU)
'67 Denny Lemaster (RRS)
'06 Ervin Santana (IDA)
'85 Mike Moore (IDA)

Relievers

Usefulness disappears about the point of Reardon.

'97 Robb Nen (PAR)
'96 Robb Nen (MAD)
'85 Tom Henke (VIC)
'71 Rollie Fingers (POU)
'06 Francisco Rodriguez (IDA)
'68 John Hiller (PAR)
'81 Jesse Orosco (PAR)
'81 Jeff Reardon (PAR)
'11 John Axford (MAD)
'10 Neftali Feliz (POU)
'85 Todd Worrell (PAR)
'11 Francisco Rodriguez (MAD)
'06 Scot Shields (IDA)
'10 David Aardsma (RRS)
'10 Alexei Ogando (POU)
'10 Darren O'Day (POU)
'83 Danny Darwin (VIC)
'71 Mudcat Grant (POU)
'53 Johnny Sain (IDA)
'74 Charlie Hough (RRS)
'72 Bob Johnson (VIC)
'06 Brandon League (POU)
'10 Koji Uehara (MAD)
'10 Koji Uehara (POU)
'06 J.C. Romero (IDA)
'11 Jose Valverde (VIC)
'05 Dan Wheeler (RRS)
'58 Hank Aguirre (VIC)
'11 Jason Grilli (MAD)
'53 Bob Kuzava (IDA)
'78 Dave LaRoche (VIC)
'58 Tom Morgan (VIC)
'04 Saloman Torres (RRS)
'58 Frank Lary (VIC)
'91 Todd Frohwirth (IDA)
'92 Rheal Cormier (RRS)
'92 Mike Perez (RRS)
'X6 Denny Rainwater (PAR)

Cthulhu Dreams fucked around with this message at 06:48 on Nov 26, 2012

Faustoan Bargain
Dec 24, 2009

I'd sell my soul for a pitcher with a power sinker...
Pick 'em picks: Unicorns and Mooglies.

Paul Zuvella
Dec 7, 2011

mks5000 posted:



Round 1: Best available Second Baseman

Round 2: The best hitting outfielder that can play a corner outfield spot and bats lefthanded (If this needs to be more specific just let me know)

Round 3: Best available pitcher (starting or relief)

If by some miracle I win the Pick 'em, then make the sandwich pick a starting pitcher.

I've edited this a few times. Quoting it because these are my final pick preferences.

mentholmoose
Nov 5, 2009

YKNOW THERES ONLY ONE DIRECTION I KNOW AND THATS DRIVIN STRAIGHT TO THE NET


Updated draft preferences:

First, if I win the sandwich pick:

1st round: '53 Yogi Berra, '34 Gabby Hartnett, best hitter overall.
Sandwich pick: Best SS overall. Robin Yount over A-rod, if they're both still available.
2nd round: Best C overall if I didn't get Berra or Hartnett, otherwise best hitting OF overall.
3rd round: Best 3B overall. If the best available according to your ranks is 74 Ron Cey or lower, then go with the best relief pitcher overall.

And in the much more likely event that I don't:

1st round: '53 Yogi Berra, '34 Gabby Hartnett, best hitter overall.
2nd round: Best SS overall. Robin Yount over A-rod, if they're both somehow still available.
3rd round: Best C overall if I didn't get Berra or Hartnett, otherwise best hitting OF overall.

BrooklynBruiser posted:

Just to get this officially recorded in the thread, SmasherDynamo and I have made a bet. If the Packers win their game tonight, I get 5 Pick 'Em points and my choice of any one player who played for any of my teams at any point. If the Packers lose tonight, I lose 5 Pick 'Em points, and one player of Smasher's choice is eliminated from the Woodchucks.
This is pretty hilarious.

Mornacale
Dec 19, 2007

n=y where
y=hope and n=folly,
prospects=lies, win=lose,

self=Pirates
I move that whatever player Bruiser loses instead defects to the EC winner of his team's division in the EC. :v:

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blakelmenakle
Sep 1, 2007
AHEM! There's sand on my boots!


Consecutive championships means the Bobbleheads are destined for a showdown with the Men who are Macho!

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