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DrProsek posted:I admit the game can be unfriendly at times like when I went down the elevator at Ando Londo and then beat up a Gargoyle, I had no idea where to go because the path ended in a dead end and the message that said try jumping lied to me, so I had to go online and read that I was supposed to go back, fall off a certain part of the bridge and then walk up a flying buttress jump off and land on a balcony to enter the library. I had almost the same problem there. I actually found the buttress on my own, but messed up the jump the first time so I tought it's not the right way after all. I had to look it up in the wiki. Dorkopotamis posted:Cross-post from before I realized there were separate threads for PC and Console versions: Hey, if you still need help you can find me in the steam group's chat. Dragonwagon fucked around with this message at 22:09 on Nov 25, 2012 |
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DrProsek posted:I admit the game can be unfriendly at times like when I went down the elevator at Ando Londo and then beat up a Gargoyle, I had no idea where to go because the path ended in a dead end and the message that said try jumping lied to me, so I had to go online and read that I was supposed to go back, fall off a certain part of the bridge and then walk up a flying buttress jump off and land on a balcony to enter the library. During my first run I found that path in seconds thanks to 3 player dropped messages that said "Here!" right on top of the buttress. Unless you're really unlucky you'll always see a few showing the right way. Anyway, fun fact about the Gaping Dragon that some people miss, his little Komodo dragon head is a weak spot, whack it a few times when he headslams the ground for extra damage, then get the hell out of his way. It speeds things up a bit.
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Nov 25, 2012 22:26
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punk rebel ecks posted:Idk I mean the game is enjoyable so far but too me there is just some odd design decisions. I'll keep playing for an two hours or so to see if this game is for me. There are very few things in this game that I can consider "bad game design" and the worldbuilding is not one of them. You can't just skip through the world in this game and expect to find everything. You're not gonna get nice big arrows or a blinking minimap icon telling you where to go. Use your brain, experiment, explore. Discovery is a big part of this game, and it's part of why it rules.
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Nov 25, 2012 22:27
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The game reminds me of Shadow of the Colossus, where it doesn't really tell you what's going on, and you just have to roam this grim world and discover but also learn to be patient or it will kill you. And it will kill you over and over and over and over. That's the point. With each death, you're supposed to have learned something. It is Groundhog Day: the Game.
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DrProsek posted:I admit the game can be unfriendly at times like when I went down the elevator at Ando Londo and then beat up a Gargoyle, I had no idea where to go because the path ended in a dead end and the message that said try jumping lied to me, so I had to go online and read that I was supposed to go back, fall off a certain part of the bridge and then walk up a flying buttress jump off and land on a balcony to enter the library. However, while the exploration can be a bit challenging and unfair even at times, I feel it's worth it, especially for the boss battles. I say stick with it, if you go for a long time without bonfires, hop on over to a youtube playthrough or this thread and see if there's maybe something you missed. The exploration is fun and you should try to find stuff on your own, but if you're stuck and can't progress there's no fun in not progressing. Its not that I'm not progressing. I mean to be honest the game isn't even that hard so far. I'm just not sure that its my type of game. But you're right I'll keep playing through. Thanks for the input. muike posted:
LMAO! Yeah sorry I was playing the game at like 3 in the morning so. Hobo Siege posted:You genuinely have no idea what's going on, do you? Oh my god, you're like an adorable little puppy. Guys! Guys, come look! Do you guys have to be so smug? I mean I just started playing the game. Tykero posted:There are very few things in this game that I can consider "bad game design" and the worldbuilding is not one of them. My problem isn't discovery my problem is that I just finished clearing out a significant portion of the game and it didn't clearly display a save point. I'm not asking for a blinking map icon, just to simply put a save point where I could find it without making the wrong turn. I don't see how this is controversial virtually every game does this after a boss battle.
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punk rebel ecks posted:My problem isn't discovery my problem is that I just finished clearing out a significant portion of the game and it didn't clearly display a save point. I'm not asking for a blinking map icon, just to simply put a save point where I could find it without making the wrong turn. I don't see how this is controversial virtually every game does this after a boss battle. It's not like the boss comes back or something. Just don't get killed by the fire next time.
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Nov 25, 2012 22:53
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Worldwide Panther posted:It's not like the boss comes back or something. Just don't get killed by the fire next time. Wait the boss doesn't come back? Well this is much less annoying. EDIT - I should clarify that I got to that point right before I went to bed. Haven't had time to play the game since.
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Nov 25, 2012 22:55
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punk rebel ecks posted:Wait the boss doesn't come back? Well this is much less annoying. I guess I shouldn't say that's all a bonfire does but just sitting at it will cause those things to happen. You don't need a bonfire to be safe or to stop playing.
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Nov 25, 2012 22:57
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punk rebel ecks posted:
"My problem isn't discovery..." and "...simply put a save point where I could find it without making the wrong turn." don't work together. It's not really that difficult to locate. It's also not a save point. Your game is saved constantly. Enemies respawn when you die/use a bonfire/etc (excluding bosses and certain mini-boss style enemies) and it takes all of five minutes to get back to where you were, not a terribly significant portion of the game at all. Take your time and explore and you will be rewarded.
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Nov 25, 2012 23:00
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I guess I'm being too harsh on this game so far. I will give it some more time.
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Skilleddk posted:Aw yeah, some guy invaded me in Anor Londo today. I saw him from far off hiding behind a staircase in the cathedral, so I snuck up from behind and did a plunging attack on him. One hit kill Was his name Kirk?  punk rebel ecks posted:Do you guys have to be so smug? I mean I just started playing the game. You misunderstand greatly. It's not smugness. This game is bewildering and frightening the first time you play it, and becomes downright routine after your first couple playthroughs if you aren't doing a gimmicky character. We love hearing newbies talk about their games because we love this game, and you guys are the closest we can come to recapturing the magic of our first playthrough.
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e:/\/\/\ where does Kirk invade in Anor Londo?punk rebel ecks posted:My problem isn't discovery my problem is that I just finished clearing out a significant portion of the game and it didn't clearly display a save point. I'm not asking for a blinking map icon, just to simply put a save point where I could find it without making the wrong turn. I don't see how this is controversial virtually every game does this after a boss battle. You'll see, pretty much after every kill, a little flame icon in the top right corner of your screen. That's the autosave. Bosses and minibosses don't respawn, everything else does every time you rest at a bonfire. I was a little confused at first too, I expected more of a tradtional action RPG formula.
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Magres posted:You misunderstand greatly. It's not smugness. This game is bewildering and frightening the first time you play it, and becomes downright routine after your first couple playthroughs if you aren't doing a gimmicky character. We love hearing newbies talk about their games because we love this game, and you guys are the closest we can come to recapturing the magic of our first playthrough. This. Hearing about someone playing for the first time is like watching a tiny, fuzzy animal take its very first steps. 
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Magres posted:You misunderstand greatly. It's not smugness. This game is bewildering and frightening the first time you play it, and becomes downright routine after your first couple playthroughs if you aren't doing a gimmicky character. We love hearing newbies talk about their games because we love this game, and you guys are the closest we can come to recapturing the magic of our first playthrough. Ah okay.
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punk rebel ecks posted:Ah okay. Many of the people in this thread are tremendous fanboys/girls and any assertiveness on our part can be safely interpreted as us just really wanting you to not give up on what many of us consider to be the best game we've ever played. It's intimidating, confusing, and frustrating at first for most people. That phase gives way to awe, intense excitement, and stunning terror. Game rules and poo poo, basically.
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DrProsek posted:Argh you were so close to a save point it hurts man Wow I'm at O&S and I never even bothered checking that ladder argh
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Tykero posted:Many of the people in this thread are tremendous fanboys/girls and any assertiveness on our part can be safely interpreted as us just really wanting you to not give up on what many of us consider to be the best game we've ever played. Everybody has that one boss that just does it for them. For me it was Knight Artorias. Learning his patterns and sticking the timing on my dodges to pyromance him to death was the most intense fight I've had yet.
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NeurosisHead posted:Everybody has that one boss that just does it for them. For me it was Knight Artorias. Learning his patterns and sticking the timing on my dodges to pyromance him to death was the most intense fight I've had yet. Pyromancing Artorias to death while sunbroing you is the best feeling. I always outdamage the other summon and the other dude, and I like to imagine that the host is like "oh who is this mysterious figure doing backflips and throwing fire so well." It's also fun to drop humanity and weapons for people before doing that. I like to imagine they're so gracious and excited.
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Don't care how nerdy it is, I'm making a Colonel Mustang gimmick character.
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I got summoned by a dickwraith to help with blue phantoms in Dark Anor Londo. We didn't get any bites, so he dropped 60 humanity for me. I poo poo my pants. e:which was, in retrospect, ironic, as I am a Darkmoon.
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I summoned a dragonbro. I have got to get that dragon head thing.
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Can I use a gold pine resin before walking through the white light to fight the bell gargoyles, or do I have to use it after passing through the light?
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Nov 26, 2012 02:09
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So I installed DSFix before ever booting it up vanilla. I've crashed to a blue screen twice now. Do I have to uninstall/reinstall the whole thing, or is there something else that I can do?
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68k posted:Can I use a gold pine resin before walking through the white light to fight the bell gargoyles, or do I have to use it after passing through the light? They do persist through the fog door, but be aware that switching weapons dispels the buff.
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blowingupcasinos posted:So I installed DSFix before ever booting it up vanilla. I've crashed to a blue screen twice now. Do I have to uninstall/reinstall the whole thing, or is there something else that I can do? Is your video card overheating?
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Doesn't seem like my videocard is overheating. Though opening my case made one of my fans get really loud. The crash occurs in the middle of the intro sequence. The narrator says a sentence or two, I see what I think is a tree, and then black. And then sadness. Deep, deep sadness.
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Not sure if that's DSFix. I have installed DSFix before running the game on multiple computers. I googled around and one guy suggests checking if you have something called "graphic overdrive" turned on in your video card's options, and another suggests reinstalling the game as well as the GFWL client.
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NeurosisHead posted:e:/\/\/\ where does Kirk invade in Anor Londo? He doesn't, I was just being an rear end 
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Man this game is frustrating why are higher level dudes allowed to invade lower level dudes? Been getting killed by way higher level dudes trying to get summoned for gargs. What can I do about this?
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Lord Humongus posted:Man this game is frustrating why are higher level dudes allowed to invade lower level dudes? Been getting killed by way higher level dudes trying to get summoned for gargs. What can I do about this? If you kill the boss of an area, you can't be invaded in that area, but you can still help people out by putting down your sign.
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Lord Humongus posted:Man this game is frustrating why are higher level dudes allowed to invade lower level dudes? Been getting killed by way higher level dudes trying to get summoned for gargs. What can I do about this? If they're red phantoms, they can only be up to 10 levels + 10% above your level and still invade you. They're likely just twinked out with really good gear, which is a different issue. If they're blue phantoms, you did something naughty, and the guilty pay the price.
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I once got invaded by a blue phantom immediately after killing an invading red phantom. I'm pretty sure I hadn't sinned unless catbro invasions count.
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Lord Humongus posted:Man this game is frustrating why are higher level dudes allowed to invade lower level dudes? Been getting killed by way higher level dudes trying to get summoned for gargs. What can I do about this? You can put down the white sign while hollow. You only risk being invaded when you're trying to summon someone to kill your version of the gargoyles.
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Fergus Mac Roich posted:You only risk being invaded when you're trying to summon someone to kill your version of the gargoyles. Or when you just want to kindle a freaking bonfire.
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Got a Man-Serpent Greatsword while just doing an ordinary first run through Sen's. Didn't even have any held humanity to boost the drop rate. Naturally, this is my Int/Dex Pyromancer/Sorcerer who has just enough strength to two-hand the Zwei as a way to plant things in the ground until my magic damage gets better. How many Attunement slots are suggested? I have three right now, for Fire Orbs, Great Soul Arrow, and Magic Weapon.
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I like having 3, but just use however many you're comfortable with. I like 3 because it's easy to switch between your equipped spells and not forget what's coming next.
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Red phantoms can only invade people at 90% of their soul level, not 90%-10. Aside from using better gear (which is very significant) the mechanical advantage lies with the host. Just remember to be a courteous invader. Up-rate every message you pass, drop indictments for your host, and follow proper etiquette (kill them when they emote). Or not. It isn't like a red phantom is accountable to anyone. Even getting indicted is just a plus.
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Are friendly summons restricted by level as well? I'm doing a level 1 run and I have yet to see a summon sign for another player. I just got to Anor Lando, and I'm not especially looking forward to taking on O&S with just Solaire.
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