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Jamesman
Nov 19, 2004

"First off, let me start by saying curly light blond hair does not suit Hyomin at all. Furthermore,"
Fun Shoe

The pHo posted:

I feel ashamed, but every time myself or my housemate are in a situation where we go 'woah' (eg nearly knocking a glass of water over) the other will always respond with the 'oo' from 'Oo-oo-oo-oppa Gangnam Style'.

Apparently it's catching on around my housemates workplace.

You should feel ashamed, since it's actually "Oppan." :colbert:

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reflir
Oct 29, 2004

So don't. Stay here with me.

Lyer posted:

Speaking of SNSD... they released another song from their Japanese album a few days ago: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vNqFrJMsPe0

It's so K-pop; sugary, cute, ridiculously catchy and something you would never be caught dead listening to in public. I wonder how much Taeyeon hates this song. :v:

I cannot wait for the album, it's going to be so loving awesome. I'll get my pile of shrooms out of the freezer, take the day off and listen to it over and over and over when it comes out. It's going to be the best vision quest ever.

BrainDance
May 8, 2007

Disco all night long!

Jamesman posted:

You should feel ashamed, since it's actually "Oppan." :colbert:

:rolleyes: yet even Koreans hear and say oppa.

Jamesman
Nov 19, 2004

"First off, let me start by saying curly light blond hair does not suit Hyomin at all. Furthermore,"
Fun Shoe

BrainDance posted:

:rolleyes: yet even Koreans hear and say oppa.

Are these Koreans deaf and blind, perhaps?

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?


Jamesman posted:

You should feel ashamed, since it's actually "Oppan." :colbert:

It's a contraction of 오빠는 and Koreans frequently drop particles. 오빠는, 오빤, 오빠 are all fine spoken.

However you should be ashamed at perpetuating the cultural smallpox that is Gangnam Style.

E: There's this van that drives around my city with the word 호박 (pumpkin) on the side and giant speakers blasting Gangnam Style. I have no idea what the gently caress but I wish for a bazooka every time it goes past.

Grand Fromage fucked around with this message at 04:16 on Nov 16, 2012

Jamesman
Nov 19, 2004

"First off, let me start by saying curly light blond hair does not suit Hyomin at all. Furthermore,"
Fun Shoe

Grand Fromage posted:

It's a contraction of 오빠는 and Koreans frequently drop particles. 오빠는, 오빤, 오빠 are all fine spoken.

I know it sounds like I care WAY too much. It's just really, really weird to me how you have this song with hundreds of millions of views, where people listen to it a hundred times over, with a word recited a dozen+ times, and only a small handful of listeners seem to hear that "N" sound at the end.

Now if you excuse me, I'm going to go listen to my favorite Beatles song, "Hey Jew." :godwin:

Grand Fromage posted:

E: There's this van that drives around my city with the word 호박 (pumpkin) on the side and giant speakers blasting Gangnam Style. I have no idea what the gently caress but I wish for a bazooka every time it goes past.

Why would a "pumpkin" van drive around blasting music? Are they advertising pumpkins, or is it just what those darn kids do in Korea?

Jamesman fucked around with this message at 04:33 on Nov 16, 2012

BrainDance
May 8, 2007

Disco all night long!

Pumpkins are a common food in Korea, they're not exactly the same as pumpkins in America.

The Koreans I know aren't blind or deaf, they're just the normal people around Ansan and Seoul. I guess it just doesn't matter to most of them, like GF said it all amounts to the same thing "it's OPPAN not OPPA" is something I've only heard on the Internet.

I think the song is finally dying though, the club outside my apartment only plays two remixes a night now! :)

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?


Jamesman posted:

Why would a "pumpkin" van drive around blasting music? Are they advertising pumpkins, or is it just what those darn kids do in Korea?

It's Korea. It's best not to try to work out logical reasons for things.

Jamesman
Nov 19, 2004

"First off, let me start by saying curly light blond hair does not suit Hyomin at all. Furthermore,"
Fun Shoe

BrainDance posted:

Pumpkins are a common food in Korea, they're not exactly the same as pumpkins in America.

Yeah, I know. I'm just not sure what the van is supposed to be doing, unless the music attracts attention, and then they stop and sell pumpkins out of their van.

Or if they're just raising pumpkin awareness.

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?


Jamesman posted:

Yeah, I know. I'm just not sure what the van is supposed to be doing, unless the music attracts attention, and then they stop and sell pumpkins out of their van.

Or if they're just raising pumpkin awareness.

There's nothing. The van doesn't stop and does nothing but drive around. I presumed it was an advertisement but there's literally nothing else written on it except 호박. Now I assume it's following me around because it knows I have PTSD from that loving song and fly into a rage/curl into the fetal position, weeping, when so much as half a second of it plays.

호박 is also slang for ugly. :eng101:

nullscan
May 28, 2004

TO BE A BOSS YOU MUST HAVE HONOR! HONOR AND A PENIS!

/\/\ Probably one of those Immigration grab and deport vans, they're watching you bro.

Jamesman posted:

Yeah, I know. I'm just not sure what the van is supposed to be doing, unless the music attracts attention, and then they stop and sell pumpkins out of their van.

Or if they're just raising pumpkin awareness.

The first one. If you've been watching your General Korean TV you would know that a lot of produce is sold off the back of the truck as they roll through your neighborhood either playing Uppa Pumpkin Stile or with recordings constantly yelling the name of whatever they're selling.

There aren't really any noise pollution laws here, and Election Season is hell if you're trying to sleep in and you're in a populous area as they have trucks yelling campaign slogans too.

Edit: Huh, guess I was wrong, but I still have produce trucks and vans roll through my ville all the time.

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?


That's the thing. It's not the goddamn ajeossi fruit truck. They're not selling pumpkins. They're just driving around blasting that loving song.

BrainDance
May 8, 2007

Disco all night long!

Maybe they're just afraid to stop around a foreigner?

Edit: this is starting to turn into something better suited for the Living in Korea thread.

BrainDance fucked around with this message at 06:25 on Nov 16, 2012

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?


Blowing down the center of a six lane road in circles around the city. :argh:

saintonan
Dec 7, 2009

Fields of glory shine eternal

Grand Fromage posted:

호박 is also slang for ugly. :eng101:

Hobag is slang for ugly in English too!

Archer2338
Mar 15, 2008

'Tis a screwed up world

Grand Fromage posted:

It's a contraction of 오빠는 and Koreans frequently drop particles. 오빠는, 오빤, 오빠 are all fine spoken.

However you should be ashamed at perpetuating the cultural smallpox that is Gangnam Style.

E: There's this van that drives around my city with the word 호박 (pumpkin) on the side and giant speakers blasting Gangnam Style. I have no idea what the gently caress but I wish for a bazooka every time it goes past.

That van sounds bloody hilarious. Have any photos? :v:

And I agree noise pollution sucks. There are laws, but it seems that all the vendors/campaigners ignore them. I know for the vendors (and taxis/buses breaking traffic laws) people go "they're trying to make a living so I should let it slide."
I know when I'm driving/others are, we're more likely to yield to a taxi or let him cut a line because we know how hard it is for them to make money.

--
Regarding OPPAN GANGNAM STYLE: I have never heard a full/normal Korean sing it without the N. And I've had quite a few spontaneous karoke/singing bursts of that song when it came on the radio/street. Just putting my personal experience out there.



BACK TO KOREAN TV: Has IU been on TV yet following that twitter picture leak?

EL BROMANCE
Jun 10, 2006

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In all honesty, I wrote 'oppa' because that's what was written on the lyrics sheets I read back when it first dropped, and I didn't want to get into the whole oppa/oppan thing.

Lyer
Feb 4, 2008

Archer2338 posted:

BACK TO KOREAN TV: Has IU been on TV yet following that twitter picture leak?

Yeah she went back on air literally the next day. Seemed fine though. She did however, lose her nation's little sister title!

http://www.allkpop.com/2012/11/iu-loses-her-title-of-the-nations-little-sister-through-recent-online-survey

Shocking.

Selane
May 19, 2006

From what I can tell, fans aren't really mad that she's humping Eunhyuk or whatever, they're mad that her company thinks everyone is an idiot and that people will swallow whatever lies they feed them. I mean, she was really sick so he took off his clothes and got into bed with her? Really? That's the best they could come up with?

Reminds me of Jiyeon's porn scandal back in the day. Even after it was conclusively proven that it was her via multiple pieces of corroborating evidence, CCM still denied it. At that point you might as well just tell the truth, because adding 'lying piece of poo poo' to the list of reasons why people don't like you really isn't doing you any good.

Lyer
Feb 4, 2008

The most amusing "netizen" response I saw was: "Eunhyuk? Really? IU can do better than that."

Archer2338
Mar 15, 2008

'Tis a screwed up world
:v:

Suzy will be the next one to fall :smith:
Out of the Jiyeon-IU-Suzy trio (they are close IRL), she's the only one who managed to avoid being complicated in something.

Rinseh
Jul 25, 2011

Do I have to do everything, he asked intending to be facetious?
HaHa-Suzy affair the next big scandal, you heard it here first!

Jamesman
Nov 19, 2004

"First off, let me start by saying curly light blond hair does not suit Hyomin at all. Furthermore,"
Fun Shoe

Selane posted:

Reminds me of Jiyeon's porn scandal back in the day. Even after it was conclusively proven that it was her via multiple pieces of corroborating evidence, CCM still denied it.

Was this actually her? Also was there actually porn, and not just "Oh Jiyeon hung out on a porn site." and it got blown out of proportion?

Archer2338
Mar 15, 2008

'Tis a screwed up world

Jamesman posted:

Was this actually her? Also was there actually porn, and not just "Oh Jiyeon hung out on a porn site." and it got blown out of proportion?

Well, not really porn. I think the video was her flashing/showing her tits on webcam? Problem is, she was a minor at the time.

Whether it was her or not: I guess there still is a chance, but all the evidence they found (her screen name matching up with other videos confirmed of her, and hell, even matching up the location of dots on her arms/face, etc) seems to point to it being her pretty conclusively.

Fight! For your kite!
Jul 29, 2008
What does the Korean media/netizens think of allkpop?

Merope
Apr 19, 2010

Smurf it up
Best quote from "Panda & Hedgehog"(half way through it):

"You do what you need to do in love and war. It's a national common sense!"

reflir
Oct 29, 2004

So don't. Stay here with me.
Listening to the new SNSD album, I imagine this is what it must be like to have a religious experience.




I have to see them in concert.

Lyer
Feb 4, 2008

Is it out on itunes? I liked pretty much every single one of the songs when I heard the preview.

EL BROMANCE
Jun 10, 2006

COWABUNGA DUDES!
🥷🐢😬



Enjoying the album on first pass, currently on 'Stay Girls' which is my favourite of the bunch so far. Really hoping for a full on huge ballad before the end though... those were the standout tracks on the original Japanese album for me. God I'm such a sucker for those.

reflir
Oct 29, 2004

So don't. Stay here with me.
There's only one ballad, the very last track. My favorite is Boomerang, which makes me think of a kind of Japanese Goldfrapp

EL BROMANCE
Jun 10, 2006

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I wasn't so keen on Boomerang on first listen, maybe it's a grower. I did like T.O.P. though, I'm guessing it's a reference to the guy from Big Bang?

Forgot Oh! was on the tracklisting so that got a laugh when I heard it come over, and 'All My Love Is For You' was a nice track I only heard the once when the video came out, so enjoying that.

So far so good, and definitely a few tracks to add to my personal 'Best of...' I think. Better than 'The Boys' imo, not quite up there with the earliest stuff (although the production is gorgeous, and better than the earlier stuff).

saintonan
Dec 7, 2009

Fields of glory shine eternal

The whole thing is bewildering, since Beep Beep is better than anything that actually did make the album, and it seems more like a throwaway now. That song would also be ridiculously easy to turn into English (and would be much more coherent than The Boys was), but SM doesn't look like he wants to press the issue.

doomisland
Oct 5, 2004

With a new album out lets never again mention The Boys. Thank you.

Jamesman
Nov 19, 2004

"First off, let me start by saying curly light blond hair does not suit Hyomin at all. Furthermore,"
Fun Shoe
I just finished IRIS: gently caress that ending

Merope
Apr 19, 2010

Smurf it up
The recent B1A4 album is pretty nice. Besides it and many other songs, my continuing foray into korean pop/indie music also uncovered these 2 gems:

UV - Itaewon Freedom (feat. JYP): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3N8c1t1QTDI

Donghae&Eunhyuk - Oppa Oppa: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pmBkoy3uDLM


And my two recent :wtf: moments regarding Korean entertainment:

Super Junior's level of fan service.

How Kim Kwang-soo discovered the new T-ara girl. :pedo:

Selane
May 19, 2006

I don't know how I missed these, but I really like the solo songs Kara did for their Karasia tour earlier this year. Anyone else seen these?

Hara - Secret Love
Jiyoung - Wanna Do
Seungyeon - Guilty
Gyuri - Daydream
Nicole - Lost

Charmmi
Dec 8, 2008

:trophystare:

Merope posted:


UV - Itaewon Freedom (feat. JYP):

Donghae&Eunhyuk - Oppa Oppa:

Here's another video that goes along those lines:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_jx3qP9LiqI

qbert
Oct 23, 2003

It's both thrilling and terrifying.

Selane posted:

I don't know how I missed these, but I really like the solo songs Kara did for their Karasia tour earlier this year. Anyone else seen these?

Hara - Secret Love
Jiyoung - Wanna Do
Seungyeon - Guilty
Gyuri - Daydream
Nicole - Lost

I just skimmed through these out of curiosity. Personally, I'd rank them from best to worst:
Seungyeon
Nicole
Gyuri
Jiyoung
Hara

Merope
Apr 19, 2010

Smurf it up

Charmmi posted:

Here's another video that goes along those lines:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_jx3qP9LiqI

Nice one!
I really like the songs also (not only the video), from the two I mentioned, though I know the OppaOppa lyrics suck. I assume UV's lyrics are better though I couldn't find an english subtitle version no matter how hard I searched. It was interesting to search and read about the Itaewon district and the conflicting views on it.
I'm still reserving judgement on the JYP dude, and I don't like how UV isn't mentioned in the video title.

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Megillah Gorilla
Sep 22, 2003

If only all of life's problems could be solved by smoking a professor of ancient evil texts.



Bread Liar
I've become addicted to watching the practice versions of the music videos. There's something just so satisfying about watching the idols dancing in their daggy old clothing in their tiny studios. Often, if the studio has a clock or windows you can see it's insanely late at night, so you can guess they've been practicing their routine for countless hours (well, for countless hours on that day alone, in one of the Heroes episodes Gahee says that a single minute of dance takes a full week of practice to learn!), but they still look so fresh and full of energy, it's amazing.

It used to be almost impossible to find the practice vids, or they'd be really lovely quality, now everyone's doing it. Of course, now that it's becoming a 'thing', the companies are starting to care about how they come out.

The one for Jewelry's latest release, Look At Me, has multiple angles and is very professional. Takes all the fun out of it :(

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