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rawrr
Jul 28, 2007
Is there a place to read in depth commentary/analysis/background of a particular film? Something more scholarly than a film review that actually goes into sparknotes stuff like symbolism, motifs, composition etc.

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Red
Apr 15, 2003

Yeah, great at getting us into Wawa.

Baron von Eevl posted:

When a few friends and I saw The Village

I can't believe this isn't on Blu-Ray yet. Is there a place to see if these things are in production?

An Actual Bear
Feb 15, 2012


rawrr posted:

Is there a place to read in depth commentary/analysis/background of a particular film? Something more scholarly than a film review that actually goes into sparknotes stuff like symbolism, motifs, composition etc.

Some good stuff here. I particularly like his Shining analysis.

morestuff
Aug 2, 2008

You can't stop what's coming

foodfight posted:

So I recall watching parts of Cameron Jaime's films in an art museum one time and now I really want to check them out again.

I've never heard of this guy before, but I hope he's just James Cameron wearing a beret and a pencil-thin mustache.

Five Cent Deposit
Jun 5, 2005

Sestero did not write The Disaster Artist, it's not true! It's bullshit! He did not write it!
*throws water bottle*
He did nahhhhht.

Oh hi, Greg.

Maxwell Lord posted:

Maybe at the time the hard-matte referred to an actual bit of hardware you'd put in front of a lens to actually cut off those parts of the frame.

Hard matte means the same now as it always has - it doesn't go in front of the lens but it does go in the camera gate in front of the negative. It is very uncommon and always has been.

My best guess is that in this case the studio wanted to force him to protect for 1.66:1 knowing that projectionists in Europe typically used 1.66:1 aperture plates on all flat films. In other words, it *was* common for studios to have mandates that their films be presentable in multiple aspect ratios.

DannoMack
Aug 1, 2003

i love it when you call me big poppa
Is there a term for when a forgotten/left for dead/written off character shows up at the last seconds at the end of the movie to save the day for the hero?

HUNDU THE BEAST GOD
Sep 14, 2007

everything is yours

DannoMack posted:

Is there a term for when a forgotten/left for dead/written off character shows up at the last seconds at the end of the movie to save the day for the hero?

Lazy.

IShallRiseAgain
Sep 12, 2008

Well ain't that precious?

DannoMack posted:

Is there a term for when a forgotten/left for dead/written off character shows up at the last seconds at the end of the movie to save the day for the hero?

Deus Ex Machina

CPFortest
Jun 2, 2009

Did you not pour me out like milk, and curdle me like cheese?

DannoMack posted:

Is there a term for when a forgotten/left for dead/written off character shows up at the last seconds at the end of the movie to save the day for the hero?

Dead Man's Chest couldn't even get that part right.

PriorMarcus
Oct 17, 2008

ASK ME ABOUT BEING ALLERGIC TO POSITIVITY

CPFortest posted:

Dead Man's Chest couldn't even get that part right.

That would've been shocking if I hadn't totally forgotten about the character by the time he didn't show up to save the day.

CPFortest
Jun 2, 2009

Did you not pour me out like milk, and curdle me like cheese?

PriorMarcus posted:

That would've been shocking if I hadn't totally forgotten about the character by the time he didn't show up to save the day.

Yeah, the way they did it was way more stupid, "Next time on Pirates of the Caribbean, Barbossa is gonna save the day!"

Tender Bender
Sep 17, 2004

I suspect I would have enjoyed that a lot more at the time if I had realized that Geoffrey Rush, not Johnny Depp, was the best part of the first film.

CPFortest
Jun 2, 2009

Did you not pour me out like milk, and curdle me like cheese?

Tender Bender posted:

I suspect I would have enjoyed that a lot more at the time if I had realized that Geoffrey Rush, not Johnny Depp, was the best part of the first film.

It didn't really amount to much in my opinion. There's maybe about two things I remember from At World's End and I don't remember Geoffrey Rush really do anything special in the movie.

Detective Thompson
Nov 9, 2007

Sammy Davis Jr. Jr. is also in repose.

IShallRiseAgain posted:

Deus Ex Machina

Not really, though. Deus Ex Machina would a new character we've never seen before coming in and saving the day. A character we briefly see and then forgot about coming back at the end to be the hero would be something more akin to a human version of Chekov's Gun, though I don't know if there's a real term for it.

live with fruit
Aug 15, 2010
What are positive examples of that?

Jurassic Park? Toy Story 3?

computer parts
Nov 18, 2010

PLEASE CLAP

live with fruit posted:

What are positive examples of that?

Jurassic Park? Toy Story 3?

Han Solo in Star Wars?

csidle
Jul 31, 2007

On that note, how would you classify the ending of The Dark Knight Rises?

A friend of mine claimed that the autopilot saving Bruce at the end was an example of poor deus ex machina. I claimed that it wasn't, because it was set up earlier in the film that Bruce took notice of the autopilot not working yet. It was foreshadowed and the ending serves simply as a twist or surprise, but not as an actual bullshit ending (which is what I understand deus ex machina to describe). The autopilot was set up as a part of the bat-pod or whatever it's called earlier in the plot, and it is within the range of reason that Bruce would be able to fix it. There's no divine intervention - it's just a form of Chekov's gun.

Glass Joe
Mar 9, 2007

csidle posted:

On that note, how would you classify the ending of The Dark Knight Rises?

A friend of mine claimed that the autopilot saving Bruce at the end was an example of poor deus ex machina. I claimed that it wasn't, because it was set up earlier in the film that Bruce took notice of the autopilot not working yet. It was foreshadowed and the ending serves simply as a twist or surprise, but not as an actual bullshit ending (which is what I understand deus ex machina to describe). The autopilot was set up as a part of the bat-pod or whatever it's called earlier in the plot, and it is within the range of reason that Bruce would be able to fix it. There's no divine intervention - it's just a form of Chekov's gun.

I agree with you, but I also saw the "Alfred will see Bruce in the cafe with a hot chick like he always wanted" ending coming ten miles away and found the whole ending to be horrifically clunky and not very well written at all. But not a deus ex machina because Bruce did plan it all out.

qntm
Jun 17, 2009

DannoMack posted:

Is there a term for when a forgotten/left for dead/written off character shows up at the last seconds at the end of the movie to save the day for the hero?

It's not deus ex machina. DXM is when the day is saved due to forces completely outside the context of the original story.

I think the technical term is "brick joke".

FreakyZoid
Nov 28, 2002

Glass Joe posted:

I agree with you, but I also saw the "Alfred will see Bruce in the cafe with a hot chick like he always wanted" ending coming ten miles away and found the whole ending to be horrifically clunky and not very well written at all. But not a deus ex machina because Bruce did plan it all out.
I took it as Bruce died because the autopilot doesn't work, as we were told, and Alfred is just clinging on to the same hope he had when Bruce was younger, that he'd see him sitting in a cafe. Basically, Alfred imagined he saw Bruce there, but it was probably just someone else and his hope & grief made him think it was Bruce.

PriorMarcus
Oct 17, 2008

ASK ME ABOUT BEING ALLERGIC TO POSITIVITY

FreakyZoid posted:

I took it as Bruce died because the autopilot doesn't work, as we were told, and Alfred is just clinging on to the same hope he had when Bruce was younger, that he'd see him sitting in a cafe. Basically, Alfred imagined he saw Bruce there, but it was probably just someone else and his hope & grief made him think it was Bruce.

This isn't what happens at all, and you need to re-watch that final montage if you think that's the information it gave us.

CPFortest
Jun 2, 2009

Did you not pour me out like milk, and curdle me like cheese?

FreakyZoid posted:

I took it as Bruce died because the autopilot doesn't work, as we were told, and Alfred is just clinging on to the same hope he had when Bruce was younger, that he'd see him sitting in a cafe. Basically, Alfred imagined he saw Bruce there, but it was probably just someone else and his hope & grief made him think it was Bruce.

Fox's final scene and Selina being present at the cafe fucks up that theory. I always thought the editing of the ending was conveying the idea that Batman did die at the end, but that Bruce Wayne survived.

FreakyZoid
Nov 28, 2002

Fair enough, it's been ages since I saw it. Must not have been paying enough attention.

the Bunt
Sep 24, 2007

YOUR GOLDEN MAGNETIC LIGHT

PriorMarcus posted:

This isn't what happens at all, and you need to re-watch that final montage if you think that's the information it gave us.

That's really how it should have happened though.

morestuff
Aug 2, 2008

You can't stop what's coming

the Bunt posted:

That's really how it should have happened though.

I'm pretty sure Bruce Wayne died when he fell into that hole, and the three movies are just his increasingly incoherent dreams as he passes over the barrier into the afterlife.

Glass Joe
Mar 9, 2007

qntm posted:

It's not deus ex machina. DXM is when the day is saved due to forces completely outside the context of the original story.

I think the technical term is "brick joke".

Home Alone.


Also, Home Alone 2.

Zogo
Jul 29, 2003

Random DVD question. Anyone ever gotten a mislabeled DVD? I got Bonnie and Clyde from Netflix and the DVD says "Widescreen" but it's clearly a fullscreen version and has the typical "this film has been modified..." line.

FreshFeesh
Jun 3, 2007

Drum Solo
Simple question, but is it a dual-sided disk?

Zogo
Jul 29, 2003

FreshFeesh posted:

Simple question, but is it a dual-sided disk?

It's a single-side Bonnie and Clyde disc. It was one of those "for rental only" discs. It had to be some factory error because the thing clearly said "widescreen" on the DVD itself but was fullscreen. It's just the first time I've seen something like that.

Egbert Souse
Nov 6, 2008

Zogo posted:

It's a single-side Bonnie and Clyde disc. It was one of those "for rental only" discs. It had to be some factory error because the thing clearly said "widescreen" on the DVD itself but was fullscreen. It's just the first time I've seen something like that.

The very first DVD of Bonnie and Clyde was 4x3 open matte only. Really idiotic on Netflix's part to keep decade-old discs in circulation when a better edition was released back in 2006!

Zogo
Jul 29, 2003

Egbert Souse posted:

The very first DVD of Bonnie and Clyde was 4x3 open matte only. Really idiotic on Netflix's part to keep decade-old discs in circulation when a better edition was released back in 2006!

Yea, that sounds right. Now that I think about it he DVD splash screen did appear to be one of those really old style ones.

muscles like this!
Jan 17, 2005


In The Bourne Legacy, is there supposed to be a reason that he pretends to lose his medication at the beginning of the movie?

Cerv
Sep 14, 2004

This is a silly post with little news value.

muscles like this? posted:

In The Bourne Legacy, is there supposed to be a reason that he pretends to lose his medication at the beginning of the movie?
IIRC he wants the other agent to give him extra. He's trying to build up a stockpile 'just in case'.

Chrtrptnt
Aug 18, 2008

Cerv posted:

IIRC he wants the other agent to give him extra. He's trying to build up a stockpile 'just in case'.

Basically this, he was terrified of running out because one of the pills made him smarter and the pills had some brutal withdrawals if he did run out. He says later on that his army recruiter fudged his IQ score by 12 points to meet his quotas. Dude just doesn't want to be dumb again.

The Saviour
Feb 19, 2006

Did I miss a thread on Killing Them Softly? It's seems weird, because it's the best film I've seen all year, and would love to see what everybody else thought about it.

I remember reading it got delayed in November for The Master, and I'm wondering if it went on general release and I just missed out on the thread?

Skunkduster
Jul 15, 2005




It's been a while since I've seen Casino and was wondering - did they ever say what happened to Lester Diamond (James Woods)? Also, what happened with the daughter? Did Sam get custody, or did she end up going with Ginger?

HUNDU THE BEAST GOD
Sep 14, 2007

everything is yours
I think their daughter was emancipated or something by that point (the older daughter wasn't Sam's) and I don't think the book or the movie mentions what happened to Lester Diamond/Lenny Marmor.

jet sanchEz
Oct 24, 2001

Lousy Manipulative Dog

The Saviour posted:

Did I miss a thread on Killing Them Softly? It's seems weird, because it's the best film I've seen all year, and would love to see what everybody else thought about it.

I remember reading it got delayed in November for The Master, and I'm wondering if it went on general release and I just missed out on the thread?

I believe there was a thread under the original title of the film, Cogan's Trade but I cannot find it now so I may have imagined it. I haven't seen the film yet but I have read the book, it is excellent as are most of George V. Higgins' books.

IShallRiseAgain
Sep 12, 2008

Well ain't that precious?

SkunkDuster posted:

It's been a while since I've seen Casino and was wondering - did they ever say what happened to Lester Diamond (James Woods)? Also, what happened with the daughter? Did Sam get custody, or did she end up going with Ginger?

I'm pretty sure Ginger died of an overdose in a hotel at the end of the movie, so I'm assuming he got custody.

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muscles like this!
Jan 17, 2005


jet sanchEz posted:

I believe there was a thread under the original title of the film, Cogan's Trade but I cannot find it now so I may have imagined it. I haven't seen the film yet but I have read the book, it is excellent as are most of George V. Higgins' books.

Its a very good movie and you should probably get around to seeing it sooner rather than later considering how bad its flopping in the box office.

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