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Thewittyname posted:That's too bad, because you missed out on the only two worth reading: Dead Sky, Black Sun and The Chapter's Due. Honsu is by far the most interesting character in the series and read with Storm of Iron it makes for a compelling trilogy. The rest of the books are just standard bolter porn - the mighty Ultramarines versus $insert_xenos_here. Of these, I liked Courage and Honor the best because it has the Tau (which are pretty rare in 40K fiction). Honsou isn't from that series, doesn't count 
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Question about Pariah on a relatively major plot device appearing about...a third of the way in? How likely is it that the glass shard that's used on several occasions, a flect? I know flects appeared in the Ravenor book series (as opposed to Eisenhorn, if we choose to believe the theory that he's the Yellow King and therefore likely supplier of the glass shard along with all the other chaos going-ons), but it seems very similar.
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Pyrolocutus posted:Question about Pariah on a relatively major plot device appearing about...a third of the way in? It'll be revealed. And you may end up slapping yourself on the forehead for getting it so wrong. It's not a glass shard, but it is still very familiar.
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So I finished Fear to Tread, is the main take away suppose to be that Horus essentially makes his own plans thus ruining the Ruinous Power's plans, which results him losing in the long run?
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Nov 24, 2012 19:58
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Lead Psychiatry posted:It'll be revealed. And you may end up slapping yourself on the forehead for getting it so wrong. It's not a glass shard, but it is still very familiar. I remember the glass shard but never any revelation on it.
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Yeah, my bad. When I first read it I thought Pyrolocutus mistook another important object for a glass shard (I don't recall if what he's talking about could be described as such, whereas the object I thought he spoke of possibly could). Finally dawned on me what he's referring to but I don't think they had that ability. Plausible though.
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I'm about a quarter way through Path of the Renegade and I'm honestly not all that impressed. The Dark Eldar really don't seem all that 'alien'. So far it basically feels like a Malus Darkblade book, except in space and not as well-written.
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Got the Sigmar Time of Legends trilogy by Graham McNeill from a friend. How good are they? His quality tends to vary a lot from book to book. 
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Rikthor posted:So I finished Fear to Tread, is the main take away suppose to be that Horus essentially makes his own plans thus ruining the Ruinous Power's plans, which results him losing in the long run? Azran posted:Got the Sigmar Time of Legends trilogy by Graham McNeill from a friend. How good are they? His quality tends to vary a lot from book to book. EDIT: Upon looking around a bit, I see that the Sigmar series is pretty well reviewed on Amazon and similar sites. Guess you're ok, then.
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Nov 26, 2012 20:41
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Azran posted:Got the Sigmar Time of Legends trilogy by Graham McNeill from a friend. How good are they? His quality tends to vary a lot from book to book. It's okay. I'd hesitate to call it "good". It's kind of underwhelming as the origin story of a literal god, though.
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I've finally finished Ian Watson's Space Marine and oh man, it really is great. His writing style does actually read like something a posh historian in the 40k world would compose. It has been recommended in the thread before, but I have to reiterate that all 40k fans should read it because it has: - Squats! Zoats! - Perhaps the only gay romance in all the BL books, complete with a love confession on a Tyranid Hive ship! - Lots of fluff on how batshit insane Space Marines are. Most newer GW books just treat them like honourable warriors who are a bit detached from reality. SM's Imperial Fists do behave like someone who has been brainwashed into killing cosmic horrors for their entire lives. Now to read Inquisition War (even though the reviews for it seem to be a bit more negative). quote:If you want a picture of the future, imagine a fist branded on a human bum - forever. Cat Planet fucked around with this message at 02:26 on Nov 27, 2012 |
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Mechafunkzilla posted:It's okay. I'd hesitate to call it "good". It's kind of underwhelming as the origin story of a literal god, though.
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berzerkmonkey posted:Yeah, but he's no more a "god" than the Emperor is (or do the books specifically state he is?) He's a superhuman who became a god through stories and legend. Yeah, he's obviously one of the lost primarchs 
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berzerkmonkey posted:Yeah, but he's no more a "god" than the Emperor is (or do the books specifically state he is?) He's a superhuman who became a god through stories and legend.
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Just finished Blood Reaver and it further reinforced my belief that ADB is the best author Black Library has. I enjoyed Soul Hunter more however because it just seemed to feel more epic and The part where Talos tells off Abaddon is one of my favorite scenes.
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Mr.48 posted:Didnt really get an answer on the previous page, are the Sisters of Battle books any good? I've heard things ranging from "meh" to "oh dear god burn it". Enough that I've personally havent bothered to read them.
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The SoB books are fine. Swallow does an acceptable job of writing the Sisters but it isn't spectacular like ADB's Black Templars or whatever.
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Drythe posted:Just finished Blood Reaver and it further reinforced my belief that ADB is the best author Black Library has. I enjoyed Soul Hunter more however because it just seemed to feel more epic and The part where Talos tells off Abaddon is one of my favourite scenes. Go buy Void Stalker, quick! Just finished Pariah in two days, sweet jesus how could anyone have anything negative to say about that book. I also picked up priests of mars by McNeil, The emperor's might (art book, lots of John Blanche and other early artists, depicting imperial architecture, and "agents of the imperium", rather poor); and the emperor's might (same again but much more marine/war focused, some wonderfully detailed glossy prints in it).
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Finished the Iron Warriors Omnibus. It reads like an evolution of McNeill's writing, as he puts less Space Marine wankery and run-on sentences the farther you read in. I enjoyed them for the most part, but the whole thing reads like a side story. It's practically begging me to read Honsou's parts in the Ultramarines books to fill in the blanks. And man, M'kar is the sorriest punching bag in the fluff ever. I might buy The Siege of Castellax next.
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Drythe posted:Just finished Blood Reaver and it further reinforced my belief that ADB is the best author Black Library has. I enjoyed Soul Hunter more however because it just seemed to feel more epic and The part where Talos tells off Abaddon is one of my favorite scenes. Gotta agree with this. I am so very, very happy that ADB is writing a Kharn Heresy book. I'm glad he's writing Chaos Marine stuff - he does a good job of keeping them monstrous but sympathetic.
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rocket_Magnet posted:Go buy Void Stalker, quick! I don't think anyone's said that Pariah is bad, just that it's a let down for what was meant to be a Ravenor v Eisenhorn book. People were expecting to see Eisenhorn and Ravenor in major roles. Echoing the call to drop everything and buy Void Stalker. In my opinion, it's probably one of the best books Black Library has done.
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rocket_Magnet posted:Go buy Void Stalker, quick! Gotta say, reading Void Stalker right now, and it's pretty great. It's a very conflicting book though, to feel utter loathing for the monstrous things the characters do, and yet actually sympathize with their plight. I do like how they're bastards to the nth power, but riveting as all hell.
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I too just finished Pariah, and I wonder if Eisenhorn has THE Alpharius in his warband or just AN Alpharius.
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ChrisAsmadi posted:I too just finished Pariah, and I wonder if Eisenhorn has THE Alpharius in his warband or just AN Alpharius. I highly doubt it's Alpharius. The Primarchs tend to stay away from current 40k fiction because goddamn they're overpowered in a small scale novel about sneaky people. Angron in Emperor's Gift is pretty much the only 'on-screen' Primarch in non-Heresy fluff, and I think it'll stay that way.
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ChrisAsmadi posted:I too just finished Pariah, and I wonder if Eisenhorn has THE Alpharius in his warband or just AN Alpharius. Thats the point isn't it? How mind blowing would that be though? edit: Angron is in the book but he's outclassed in badassness very very quickly upon his appearance.
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ChrisAsmadi posted:I too just finished Pariah, and I wonder if Eisenhorn has THE Alpharius in his warband or just AN Alpharius. If he was the one then it would really show what side Eisenhorn was on.
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ChrisAsmadi posted:I too just finished Pariah, and I wonder if Eisenhorn has THE Alpharius in his warband or just AN Alpharius. In addition to what the others said, the Horus Heresy novels are still a work in progress. We don't know if THE Alpharius survives the heresy or if Omegon replaces him. It's probably a legionnaire in Pariah just because of that unknown variable. That's still pretty badass though.
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Trast posted:If he was the one then it would really show what side Eisenhorn was on. Considering Legion, it'd probably make it even more confusing as to what side he's on, not less.
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ChrisAsmadi posted:I too just finished Pariah, and I wonder if Eisenhorn has THE Alpharius in his warband or just AN Alpharius.
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Drythe posted:Just finished Blood Reaver and it further reinforced my belief that ADB is the best author Black Library has. I enjoyed Soul Hunter more however because it just seemed to feel more epic and The part where Talos tells off Abaddon is one of my favorite scenes. You may be surprised by how that develops in Void Stalker. Blood Reaver is an immensely fun book, and the whole part with the jacking a ship from the Red Corsairs was golden. I wasn't aware of a Kharn book by the same author. That sounds really interesting, especially since I use him a lot on Tabletop. Soon he'll get to chop loyalist Land Raiders apart in a more fleshed-out, context-rich manner!
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Finished Angel Exterminatus a few days ago. It was okay, but it seemed like Mcneill was trying to do for the Iron Warriors what ADB has done for the Night Lords, and it kinda fell flat. When he goes back to explain their motivations for joining the heresy, it seems like the only real thing is resentment for not having been recognized in the same way that the Fists and Smurfs were. I haven't read Storm of Iron for years, but it seemed like a lot of this book was making callouts to characters from that one. All of the Emperor's Children stuff in it was  as gently caress though. I found it far more amusing than I should have when they tried to Slaanesh-hotbox one of the Iron Warriors emissaries.
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Sephyr posted:You may be surprised by how that develops in Void Stalker. Blood Reaver is an immensely fun book, and the whole part with the jacking a ship from the Red Corsairs was golden. The Kharn book is a Horus Heresy novel and it isn't out yet. VVVV Well, they've said the Heresy lasted about a decade or two, right? I imagine the Terra stuff will happen eventually, but they're probably holding off on that since those are the books people will probably buy the most. I just hope they get stuff plotted out properly first and not have an Ivstaan V timeline mess. Again. VanSandman fucked around with this message at 07:16 on Nov 30, 2012 |
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Do we have any time table on when the Heresy book will start talking about the Siege of Terra, the naval battles around Luna and all that good stuff? I do love reading all these books, but I can't wait for the good stuff at the end.
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Mechafunkzilla posted:...(once I finish Path of the Renegade, which is turning into a bit of a slog). That book goes in fits and starts, but it has a neat ending. I have hopes for Incubus, at any rate. If he get's more Vect in then so much the better.
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