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Midorka posted:Red Thunder or Brown Shugga? I was underwhelmed by both, though I have only myself to blame for hyping Red Thunder in my head. Red Thunder. Most of the stores in my area (Columbus) have cases of Brown Shugga laying around.
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Midorka posted:Red Thunder or Brown Shugga? I was underwhelmed by both, though I have only myself to blame for hyping Red Thunder in my head. Oooooops! I thought I had quoted only the Red Thunder part, and not the Brown Shugga part as well. I'm waiting for Red Thunder to arrive, but after hearing a lot of the reviews I'm not sure I'll pick up more than a single bottle. What It Dooski posted:Red Thunder. Most of the stores in my area (Columbus) have cases of Brown Shugga laying around. I'm kind of jealous, all the places in my area (Akron) sold out of Brown Shugga almost instantly upon getting it in. We might not have gotten as much as the Columbus area though, since you have a bigger population and all Kudosx fucked around with this message at 05:29 on Dec 4, 2012 |
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Kudosx posted:I can't wait til this makes it's way to OH. I feel like it's been out for a week or two, but I still haven't heard anything about it's arrival in OH. I'm pretty sure we're one of the states that's supposed to get it I saw it in Northwest Ohio weeks ago.
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Red Thunder was pretty underwhelming, but then again I was expecting much more. It's got the chocolate flavors from Baltic Thunder, but the oak and dry red wine are overlying the entire thing and sort of suck out the base beer. If that makes sense.
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I'm going to be in Vegas next week and I was wondering if there is anything worth seeing out there that is beer related? Any awesome beer bars or kick rear end liquor stores with amazing selections?
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Huge_Midget posted:I'm going to be in Vegas next week and I was wondering if there is anything worth seeing out there that is beer related? Any awesome beer bars or kick rear end liquor stores with amazing selections? Triple 7 Brewery is a pretty good microbrewery inside the Main Street Station casino in downtown Vegas. Good prices and tasty brews. Crappy food, but good deals on the flight. Any place on the strip for good beer is going to be douchey and over priced.
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Dec 4, 2012 07:23
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I know Troegs is a "big name" and stuff, but seriously Mad Elf is awesome for being 11%.
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Huge_Midget posted:I'm going to be in Vegas next week and I was wondering if there is anything worth seeing out there that is beer related? Any awesome beer bars or kick rear end liquor stores with amazing selections? Aces and Ales. Way, way, way off the strip but one of the best beer bars I've ever been to. Super nice people, fantastic selection of cellared things, and reasonably priced.
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Just as a reminder I'll be having a tasting at my place in Ann Arbor on December 15. Thinking of a 5pm start time, we can get pizza ordered or something midway through. Look for a PM if you expressed interest, gonna try to get a headcount.
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New joint "Black Bottle Brewery" opened in town last weekend. They're brewing their own beers and also having an enormous number of guest taps. I haven't been yet, although the opening weekend tap lineup is ridiculously good. But really... one of your flagship beers is called "Bitches Get Stitches"? I really hope I'm just missing a joke or reference  Tap list posted:Black Bottle Brewery HIPSTER
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Docjowles posted:But really... one of your flagship beers is called "Bitches Get Stitches"? I really hope I'm just missing a joke or reference Their Four Loko clone, suitable for drinking by abusive husbands?
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Dec 4, 2012 20:30
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Sort of raises an interesting topic. We've all see beers that try to grab sales through out-there names or bottle art or both. They usually aren't very good beers. But would you ever pass on a beer that was really good, just because it had in incredibly asinine "out there" name? Not just not want to order it at a bar, but fully with hold your business so as to not support such a lovely name / label?
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Arnold of Soissons posted:Sort of raises an interesting topic. We've all see beers that try to grab sales through out-there names or bottle art or both. They usually aren't very good beers. But would you ever pass on a beer that was really good, just because it had in incredibly asinine "out there" name? Not just not want to order it at a bar, but fully with hold your business so as to not support such a lovely name / label? No. Same goes for an incredible band with a horrible name, or a killer restaurant in a terrible location. The art will, more or less, persevere through poor peripheral issues.
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I would probably not give my money to Donkey Punch Brewery, no.
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Clown Shoes just started distributing to WI not too long ago, and wow. The brewery name alone is pretty bad, but most of the beer names and labels... no thanks.
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Sirotan posted:I would probably not give my money to Donkey Punch Brewery, no. Unfortunately, with your support or not, that dude "can't see [them] failing."
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I Dont Like You posted:Clown Shoes just started distributing to WI not too long ago, and wow. The brewery name alone is pretty bad, but most of the beer names and labels... no thanks. I've been in the same boat, I tried one of their offerings and it was fine but the whole vibe of the brewery sets me off. The fonts, the overall aesthetic, the lovely bottle art, etc. Maybe this is stupid but for better or for worse this is how I'm feeling.
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global tetrahedron posted:I've been in the same boat, I tried one of their offerings and it was fine but the whole vibe of the brewery sets me off. The fonts, the overall aesthetic, the lovely bottle art, etc. Maybe this is stupid but for better or for worse this is how I'm feeling. I don't think it's stupid. As discussed a few pages ago when I proclaimed my love of Maine Brewing's labels, how you present yourself- either via labels, brew names, advertisements- is a critical decision. If you want to try and sell me your fantastic IIPA called Fart Juice using the phrase "For all Hopheads!" as the catch-phrase and slap a poorly photoshopped picture that your 8 year old drew as a label? Good luck. But that tells me a lot about your company, respect of your potential customer, and frankly whether you have a goddamn ounce of business sense. People can say "craft brewers do it because they love it!" all they want. If you treat it like a hobby or an inside joke, good luck staying in business for more than a few years. And if you're not treating it seriously as a business, I'm doubting you're much of a brewer.
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I Dont Like You posted:Clown Shoes just started distributing to WI not too long ago, and wow. The brewery name alone is pretty bad, but most of the beer names and labels... no thanks. Thats a shame, Blaecorn Unidragon is one of the best imperial stouts out there.
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Dec 4, 2012 22:26
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Huge_Midget posted:I'm going to be in Vegas next week and I was wondering if there is anything worth seeing out there that is beer related? Any awesome beer bars or kick rear end liquor stores with amazing selections? Mongoloid Joe posted:Triple 7 Brewery danbanana posted:Aces and Ales. Way, way, way off the strip but one of the best beer bars I've ever been to. Super nice people, fantastic selection of cellared things, and reasonably priced. A couple of other places that are good: Big Dog's Brewery, Draft House, or Cafe. They're one of the best local breweries, with an especially great pale ale and several good IPAs. Joseph James Brewing Company - they only do one tour a month, typically on the third Saturday, but it's $5 and has free samples for the duration. Their IPAs range from mediocre to okay, but their stouts and other darker, heavier stuff is quite good. If you want to stay on the Strip, The Pub at Monte Carlo offers the best price:selection ratio. Be warned, though, they have dueling piano karaoke on weekend nights. Public House in the Venetian/Palazzo complex is significantly more expensive with slightly better selection and a cicerone complete with ridiculous facial hair. The food is very well done and on the high end of Strip-expensive for bar food. Avoid Todd English's Pub in City Center - the food is awful, the beer selection mediocre, and the in-table taps are Pabst. Such a crime against beerdom should not be rewarded with patronage.
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Arnold of Soissons posted:Sort of raises an interesting topic. We've all see beers that try to grab sales through out-there names or bottle art or both. They usually aren't very good beers. But would you ever pass on a beer that was really good, just because it had in incredibly asinine "out there" name? Not just not want to order it at a bar, but fully with hold your business so as to not support such a lovely name / label? Personally, I might try the beer, but it makes me think a lot less of the brewery. Case in point: there is a brewery near Portland called Walking Man. They make a DIPA called Homo Erectus, which is a clever name for a beer given the name of the brewery. Using "Homo Erectus" as a starting point for other beer names was where it gets offensive. Their Black IPA was called Big Black Homo. Feeling that this wasn't going far enough, they released a beer for the Holiday Ale Festival in Portland called Santa's Little Black Homo.
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Well a corollary to that is that if a beer name / label makes the 11 year old inside of me laugh then it will stick in my mind. Case in point However this is very hard to pull off correctly.
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Docjowles posted:New joint "Black Bottle Brewery" opened in town last weekend. They're brewing their own beers and also having an enormous number of guest taps. I haven't been yet, although the opening weekend tap lineup is ridiculously good. But really... one of your flagship beers is called "Bitches Get Stitches"? I really hope I'm just missing a joke or reference They also list a PDA aka "Panty Dropper Ale" on their webpage as well as a "Kentucky Waterfall" beer geared towards "people with mullets and/or also like Nascar". Also, they have a really bizarre and bad video up: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0H9hVP8kYDI A buddy of mine LOVES NB's Snow Day, and he's really sad that they're discontinuing it after this year. So for Xmas, I'm gonna buy him a big sampler pack of other black IPA's so that hopefully he can find a new favorite. The problem I'm running into is I don't drink a lot of BIPA's, so I don't really know what to get him that's also available here in NC. Some stuff I've picked just based on ratings: Fort Collins Black IPA Stone Sublimely Self-Righteous 21st Back in Black Clown Shoes Hoppy Feet or Lubrication Laughing Dog DogZilla New Holland Black Hatter The only one of those I've actually had is Back in Black. Comments on these or suggestions of others I might look into? As for local stuff, there's Duck Rabbits ABA, but that's a whole diff. animal than Snow Day. The same for Olde Hickory's Raven IPA, which I like, but wouldn't say is very similar to Snow Day.
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Retemnav posted:A buddy of mine LOVES NB's Snow Day, and he's really sad that they're discontinuing it after this year. So for Xmas, I'm gonna buy him a big sampler pack of other black IPA's so that hopefully he can find a new favorite. The problem I'm running into is I don't drink a lot of BIPA's, so I don't really know what to get him that's also available here in NC. Just buy him a boatload of Sublimely Self-Righteous, it's the best easily-available black IPA by a pretty decent margin. I've never had Snow Day though, and I bet SSR is a good deal more aggressive than it is.
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bartolimu posted:Is terrible, and gently caress Main Street Station. Downtown smells like dead hooker, is full of cut-rate tourist traps and horrible, stinky, low-ceilinged casinos, and is generally unsafe and awful. There are much better places to go. That's hilarious because the strip is more victim to this "cut-rate tourist trap" phenomenon on a grander scale. The tacky cheese factor is what makes downtown great, and I've always won bigger in downtown than on the strip. People go to Vegas for different things; I'm sure casino ceiling height isn't at the top of your typical tourists' priority list. Also, for a city that runs on tourism, downtown didn't seem that unsafe to me. I mean, compared to East LA where I grew up or the south side of Chicago, it seemed pretty tame. Amazingly enough, I was accosted the most by homeless people in Toronto, but what do I know? (Except all about crappy beer apparently) Triple 7 deserves a chance, they change up their brews frequently and you won't burn holes in your wallet. The opinion that it is terrible isn't fact or objective. Just merely an opinion. My personal experience with the beers there and me enjoying them is also opinion as well. I mean, I know Yelp isn't THE barometer for beer guides, but their Yelp should be checked out just to get a feel for what other people think.
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swickles posted:Thats a shame, Blaecorn Unidragon is one of the best imperial stouts out there. This is true. I had a bottle a while back and loved it. If you're a fan of hoppier imperial stouts then you gotta try it.
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Sublimer posted:This is true. I had a bottle a while back and loved it. If you're a fan of hoppier imperial stouts then you gotta try it. yeah, if you like Yeti, Storm King, or Expedition, it should be on your "to try" list. i prefer Vampire Slayer, but it's a more straightforward roast/chocolate stout. they also have the least bad labels of all the Clown Shoes bottles. Retemnav, i believe Foothills has a seasonal black IPA out right now and Left Hand's latest Fade to Black is of that same style. funkybottoms fucked around with this message at 01:07 on Dec 5, 2012 |
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deadwing posted:Just buy him a boatload of Sublimely Self-Righteous, it's the best easily-available black IPA by a pretty decent margin. I've never had Snow Day though, and I bet SSR is a good deal more aggressive than it is. I like Snow Day pretty well, and it's definitely less aggressive than Stone SSR. But it's loving Stone, that goes without saying  Snow Day's more malt-forward and chocolaty. I'm not sure Black IPA is even a great term for it, it's more of an American Brown or Porter IMO.  Besides the Stone suggestion, see if you can find Firestone Walker Wookey Jack, Deschutes Hop in the Dark and Sierra Nevada Tumbler (Tumbler's not the same style but I bet a fan of Snow Day would like it. May be hard to find now that it's Celebration season, though).
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I got over the Clown Shoes vibe once I tried Vampire Slayer and Blaecorn. They make some kickass dark beers. Also, they have a belgian IPA called "Muffin Top" and a wit called "Clementine" that are wonderful. Clown Shoes is contract-brewed by Mercury in Ipswitch, MA.
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funkybottoms posted:yeah, if you like Yeti, Storm King, or Expedition, it should be on your "to try" list. i prefer Vampire Slayer, but it's a more straightforward roast/chocolate stout. they also have the least bad labels of all the Clown Shoes bottles. Ha, very true. They are also the only Clown Shoes beers I HAVEN'T seen around yet. Guess I'd try them on tap or something first. I will say though, that I do very much prefer aged Expedition to fresh/fresh-ish.
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FreelanceSocialist posted:"Clementine" Ugh. This was not for me. Tasted like skunked Blue Moon.
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You might've gotten a bad bottle. It's like Blue Moon with a slightly sweet citrus rind finish.
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I Dont Like You posted:Ha, very true. They are also the only Clown Shoes beers I HAVEN'T seen around yet. Guess I'd try them on tap or something first. I will say though, that I do very much prefer aged Expedition to fresh/fresh-ish. i wouldn't hesitate to buy a bottle of either if i were you, but the best i can come up for the rest of their beer is "not horrible."
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I'm thinking about drinking my bottle of The Dissident tonight. Am I going to be really sad that it's the only bottle of I I was able to get? This is why I hate super limited releases.
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I've never come across a Clown Shoes on-tap outside of eastern Mass, FWIW. edit: I bought a sixer of Lagunitas Brown Shugga tonight and I've already plowed through four bottles. Oh god so tasty please help 
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FreelanceSocialist posted:I've never come across a Clown Shoes on-tap outside of eastern Mass, FWIW. You're already in too deep. Finish it all! Podima posted:(Also it was probably the ABV for Brown Shugga, that stuff is insidious)
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FreelanceSocialist posted:I've never come across a Clown Shoes on-tap outside of eastern Mass, FWIW. 1. CS is all over Houston, TX, mainly because until fairly recent it was a captive market for some kind, any kind of craft beer and they descended on it. 2. Jeez I can barely get through two before I'm wasted and I'm a fairly seasoned beer drinker.
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Cromlech posted:I know Troegs is a "big name" and stuff, but seriously Mad Elf is awesome for being 11%. Not calling you out here in the least, but you reminded me that I tried it a few nights ago. I don't see what the hubbub is, and I actually ended up sending it back less than halfway through. This is the first time I have ever sent a drink back. Ever. It was a boozy, over-spiced cherry mess to me-- and I'm usually a fan of strong ales. I felt it neither hid the alcohol or incorporated it into the flavor profile. It just... languished. And the 6 packs of it around here are bizarrely inflated in price, which just makes me even more bitter about it. Can't really hate on Troegs, though. Flying Mouflan is the bees' knees. Luckily that got replaced with an Old Rasputin on nitro. Dear loving lord that's dangerous, and is the first beer I've truly enjoyed on nitro. Between that and learning they've got Legend barleywine available for growler fills for $12.50 on Thursday, well, I know what I'm drinking this weekend.
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Kraven Moorhed posted:Luckily that got replaced with an Old Rasputin on nitro. Dear loving lord that's dangerous, and is the first beer I've truly enjoyed on nitro. Between that and learning they've got Legend barleywine available for growler fills for $12.50 on Thursday, well, I know what I'm drinking this weekend. "they"? speaking of growler fills, i know it's a bit out of your way, but WF should be putting Mephistopheles on soon and you should really get some if you have the chance, poo poo is ridiculous on draft.
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