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Phisty posted:I'm from Ontario? Beer is something we did with grain to make it more shelf stable, it's not as fragile as lots of people pretend. Russian Imperial Stouts specifically were literally designed to be sent in ships and ox carts from Northern England to St Petersburg, which apparently took a long time. Avoid getting it too warm, but we're talking like under 30C here. Don't set it next to the fireplace and you'll be fine. The less you jostle it / more you keep it upright, the better, but it's not nitroglycerine and it won't hurt the beer to be jostled around, it will just need some time to settle back down. Honestly that big dark strong beer you'll have a pretty hard time doing too much damage to in 3 weeks even if you tried.
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danbanana posted:Where you're from is important re: what beer you were possibly looking at/for because of distribution issues. But it seems you have a candidate and a location to buy so you're good. Nothing you can do to it in normal handling procedures could ruin it so no worries. Just don't put it in an oven then freeze it or something insane like that. Angry Grimace posted:The only beers that typically that come in bottles that offer no protection from UV rays are industrial European/Mexican lagers. Just keep it in your box and keep it at a temperature which is comfortable to normal people and it won't be a problem at all.
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Just received 2 interesting sounding beers through a Rare Beer Club membership that was gifted to me for my birthday: Jester King Gotlandsdricka and To Ol Sans Frontiere Both sound...interesting...if not enjoyable. Mostly looking forward to the Sans Frontiere after its had another few months of age on it, as it sounds like it would be somewhat like a heavily noble hopped Orval or something. I don't really know what to expect from the Golandsdricka, but I do know that if it's similar to DFH Sah'tea then it may be tough for me to get through. Although I will say that the label is extremely bad rear end. Anyone in the thread have experience with these two? Mikey Purp fucked around with this message at 20:57 on Dec 7, 2012 |
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Some of Stoudt's labels remind me of the awfulness of Weyerbacher's labels This one is really only bad because of the blown out colors  This one though... 
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Phisty posted:Ah! That explains why the Corona I used to love when I was a teen got so nasty so quickly. The only exception to this is Miller, who have clear bottles but use a processed hop extract called tetra hop that's had the chemical responsible for skunking removed. Along with most of the flavor but, hey, Miller isn't really that interested in hop aroma. Though now some of the micro guys are interested in the stuff, too, because of its effects on foaming and head formation.
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RiggenBlaque posted:This one though... Is the best ever? The traditional bok bier goat with the silly pun, I don't know why but it cracks me up. Tasty beer also.
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zedprime posted:Weyerbacher went from trapper keeper level to deviant art level. I mean sure its an improvement but you have to feel sorry that they spent money on that stuff and it only came out that good. You have to understand though that the people who paid good money on the art also were content for a long time with the old artwork. No matter what they threw at the artists, if they have awful taste, they're more likely to say "Yeah that looks amazing!"
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The new Merry Monks label is bordering on creepy for me, the main monk looks like he's got more to hide than sneaking beers. But at least it looks better.
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dumptruckzzz posted:The new Merry Monks label is bordering on creepy for me, the main monk looks like he's got more to hide than sneaking beers. But at least it looks better. I literally just saw this at the store like 30 minutes ago since we were talking about it earlier. Holy poo poo, creepy is right.
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dumptruckzzz posted:The new Merry Monks label is bordering on creepy for me, the main monk looks like he's got more to hide than sneaking beers. But at least it looks better. Just saw this the other day.  It's kind of sad because the concept for the label isn't horrible per se, but the execution is just amateur as all hell. Fake Edit: Hoppin' Frog still holds the all-time record in my book for most awful label art. My girlfriend hates their labels so much that she gets annoyed at me when I bring B.O.R.I.S. home.
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 This is the old one, right? Because this is way creepier than the new one if only because- briefly glancing- it looks like a couple of those monks are having, um, bladder issues.
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I really can't figure out what the gently caress is up with that BeerAdvocate nonsense on every review where they have to add in "poured into a Gulden Draak Chalice blessed by Pope Benedict." It used to be just a humorous thing that really spergy BA members would do, but now it seems like almost 80% of the posters need to engage in this bit of mental masturbation. Not to mention, the reviews are just as trashy as ever and have almost gotten worse with describing every beer like a spice rack combined with the entirety of the produce section.
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Angry Grimace posted:I really can't figure out what the gently caress is up with that BeerAdvocate nonsense on every review where they have to add in "poured into a Gulden Draak Chalice blessed by Pope Benedict." It used to be just a humorous thing that really spergy BA members would do, but now it seems like almost 80% of the posters need to engage in this bit of mental masturbation. Not to mention, the reviews are just as trashy as ever and have almost gotten worse with describing every beer like a spice rack combined with the entirety of the produce section. Beer Advocate is the unkempt anus of the internet beer world. I only go there periodically, to read moronic flame wars on the message boards and shake my head at the sad sacks who literally follow the beer delivery van around. It's just loving beer, for god's sake.
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Mikey Purp posted:Just received 2 interesting sounding beers through a Rare Beer Club membership that was gifted to me for my birthday: I had the Sans Frontiere last night, pretty tasty. Kind of in the Orval-ish style. Dry, hoppy, belgian, a little funk. I enjoyed it but I should have let it age longer. Haven't opened up the Gotlandsdricka from JK yet.
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MOA from New Zealand just started distributing over here. I got to try their Pinot Noir barrel aged imperial stout and that had some pretty huge vinous qualities in it. Also tried Sixpoint's Wakatu in their Spice of Life series on draft, and man that would have been a kick rear end summer beer. What else is interesting out of NZ to be on the lookout for? Really looks like they're up-and-coming and more stuff is headed our way. Plus the more balanced flavors from the hops they use down there are a nice change of pace compared to the huge rear end bitter grenades that have been on the uptick the past few years.
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What's good from Evil Twin? I have started to see it everywhere. I had Lil B and it was.....ok. Tell me there's better stuff out there.
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Mahoning posted:What's good from Evil Twin? I have started to see it everywhere. I had Lil B and it was.....ok. Tell me there's better stuff out there. It's all pretty weird but the right answer is Imperial. Biscotti. Break.
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Mikey Purp posted:It's all pretty weird but the right answer is Imperial. Biscotti. Break. Pretty much this. It might be tough to find as it goes pretty quick when it hits shelves (at least in Chicago), but it's quite unique and definitely worth trying at least once.
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Mahoning posted:What's good from Evil Twin? I have started to see it everywhere. I had Lil B and it was.....ok. Tell me there's better stuff out there. I had The Cowboy last night, and it was great - a smoked pilsner of all things. Shouldn't have worked at all, but it did. I have a Yin and a Yang sitting in my cellar, I should probably get around to trying them out...
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Drinking Panil Barriquee, a Flanders red made by...Italians and aged in Bordeaux barrels. It's fantastic, just the right balance between oak, sour cherry, and funk. Definitely be recommended though a bit pricey (thanks amex sbs discount)
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Mahoning posted:What's good from Evil Twin? I have started to see it everywhere. I had Lil B and it was.....ok. Tell me there's better stuff out there. I liked Freudian Slip quite a bit as an American barleywine. The interesting thing about ET is that everything the "make" that I've liked was brewed by Westbrook. Everything else has been bleh. Speaking of barleywines, tonight my quiet night in will feature a series of them: New Glarus' (I think it's an '11?), DFH's Olde School ('10, I hope this got better with age because I didn't like it fresh at all), and Dieu Du Ciel's Solstice d’Hiver. Love, love, love the DDC... Last night, wandered into my local bar for the first time in weeks and got a few interesting things. Allagash's Interlude was further proof that they're a completely competent brewery that can't seem to make something that is exemplary. Against the Grain's Gnag Reflex, a mild sour brown brewed with cherries. I would have liked a 12 oz pour more than the pint they served. Perennial's Abraxas. I had the BA'd version at FOBAB and thought it had way too strong of a cinnamon presence. This was not as prevalent and the peppers came out a little more. Like Black Metal and Imperial Biscotti Break, though, this comes off as a dessert beer, one step from being on par with Southern Tier's Blackwater series. Good but somewhat limited in when you want to enjoy one.
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Studebaker Hawk posted:Drinking Panil Barriquee, a Flanders red made by...Italians and aged in Bordeaux barrels. It's fantastic, just the right balance between oak, sour cherry, and funk. Definitely be recommended though a bit pricey (thanks amex sbs discount) Sounds rad enough to pick up. I'm digging Flanderseseses a lot lately.
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I just opened up a Three Philosophers that I've had sitting around for quite a while in the bottom of my kegerator. I don't think I've had it in at least 2 years and I'd forgotten how good it is. I can't get over the tobacco and cherry notes in it. It's just all around amazing. Now I have like 500 more mL's to drink 
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Kraven Moorhed posted:Not calling you out here in the least, but you reminded me that I tried it a few nights ago. I don't see what the hubbub is, and I actually ended up sending it back less than halfway through. This is the first time I have ever sent a drink back. Ever. It was a boozy, over-spiced cherry mess to me-- and I'm usually a fan of strong ales. I felt it neither hid the alcohol or incorporated it into the flavor profile. It just... languished. And the 6 packs of it around here are bizarrely inflated in price, which just makes me even more bitter about it. Can't really hate on Troegs, though. Flying Mouflan is the bees' knees. You're right about the six pack price inflation.. Jesus christ, 8 a bottle for Mad Elf is the biggest ripoff since god knows what the gently caress. Some dive bar around here had a sixer for like $15 when it first dropped.. I should've just flipped the drat thing. Last year my brother got a case of 24 Mad Elf for $40. At most stores, it's like 45$ for a six pack now.  I don't get it, it's not like it's an extremely limited run or anything. Hell it'd be cheaper and better to get a pack of FBS.
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Update! The Olde School I have turns out to be a 2009, meaning I opened the oldest beer I had left in my collection! It also is turning out to be... really good. Other than the smell, there's nothing to detect that this was once a near-undrinkable booze bomb. Very smooth, if a hair overly sweet (as one would expect).
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I'd e-mail Troegs, I'm sure they wouldn't take kindly to that extreme mark up. I'm glad none of the stores around here are scumbags like that. Speaking of Troegs, I don't like any of their year round beers. They're all pretty boring, hell even their seasonals are weak. I don't get how they won mid-sized brewery of the year.
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global tetrahedron posted:Beer Advocate is the unkempt anus of the internet beer world. I only go there periodically, to read moronic flame wars on the message boards and shake my head at the sad sacks who literally follow the beer delivery van around. It's just loving beer, for god's sake. Not necessarily directed at you, but the group as a whole. What sites/blogs do you guys follow? It seems like I always forget what time of the year it is and when poo poo comes out. It would be nice to be able to throw a good site into my RSS feed that I can read daily and be like, " Oh poo poo, suchandsuch beer is released in a couple weeks. Better add something in my calender." CancerStick fucked around with this message at 03:11 on Dec 8, 2012 |
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Midorka posted:I don't get how they won mid-sized brewery of the year. If I had to hazard a guess, Nugget Nectar. VVVVV Yes absolutely. Those two, and Flying Mouflan, make them stand out. Manky fucked around with this message at 02:58 on Dec 8, 2012 |
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Nugget Nectar is excellent, and Hopback is pretty spectacular when it's fresh. e: Troegs is run by some really cool guys, too. Both of the Trogner guys talked to me for about half an hour when I was there. Hypnolobster fucked around with this message at 02:59 on Dec 8, 2012 |
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CancerStick posted:Not necessarily directed at you, but the group as a whole. What sites/blogs do you guys follow? It seems like I always forget what time of the year it is and when poo poo comes out. It would be nice to be able to throw a good site into my RSS feed that I can read daily and be like, " Oh siht, suchandsuch beer is released in a couple weeks. Better add something in my calender." I RSS the Beerpulse blog. I'll admit to going to BeerAdvocate for quick information, but only because the site seems more responsive and better designed than RateBeer.
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drat it, Tank 7, how can you be so damned good every time? I thought you're the temperamental tank! Seriously, good loving beer. Every time.
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My first Evil Twin experience was Katz Pis, and I was assured that it wasn't an infection and the beer was supposed to be like that. It took a lot of convincing to persuade me that they were worth a second chance, but they do some decent stuff. The price is too high, though. It still occupies a better space for me than Baying Hound, which I am convinced is a front for an infection factory. RE: Panil Barrique - good beer, but you can get 1.5+ better sours for those prices around here (NoVA). And for the Troegs discussion - Nugget Nectar is one of the best, Perpetual is fantastic, Troegenator and Hopback are very good, and Dead Reckoning is excellent. Their average or worse (ie Mad Elf) offerings seem to be in a minority imo. e: vvvvvv Victory never gets enough love, but in spite of what I find to be incredible packaging (for longevity, not aesthetic) they seem to be subject to horrible mistreatment by beer store employees (a large chain in particular). I don't really get it, but there are too many dusty old bottles of IPA and IIPA. Maine Beer is good, but I agree about the hype and price. ChickenArise fucked around with this message at 04:47 on Dec 8, 2012 |
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I actually forgot about Nugget Nectar and Troegenator, one of my favorite all-time beers. Still I don't see how they won over other breweries that are better all-around like Victory for instance. I'm sure Troegs guys are awesome, but there's only two beers I love, Flying Mouflan is good, but I don't love it. The rest of their beers I think are forgettable. I'm drinking MO now from Maine Beer Co and it's got a nice tropical and citrus hop profile, but it's too expensive for me to love. It's a very solid beer though and I think it's worth trying.
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Midorka posted:I'm drinking MO now from Maine Beer Co and it's got a nice tropical and citrus hop profile, but it's too expensive for me to love. It's a very solid beer though and I think it's worth trying. If you don't mind me asking, how much do the Maine Beer Co beers run? I've heard several people call them expensive, so I was just wondering. Hoppin' Frog is a local brewery to me, and they're one of the most expensive around, so I can't imagine it's much more than what they charge. I really wish HF would start to offer 4/6 packs of some of their beers... buying only bombers gets annoying. Even to get a growler of their beer it's like $25-$30. E: In other news, I'm barely drinking any beer this week because I'm going to be spending $85 on some Westys on Wednesday. I really can't wait to try a bottle of it, it will be my first time. The only other quad I've drank is Rochefort 10 so I'm a bit of a noob... I think I will probably pick up a St. Bernardus to drink side by side. Kudosx fucked around with this message at 05:11 on Dec 8, 2012 |
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Midorka posted:I actually forgot about... one of my favorite all-time beers. Yup. RE: Maine... Maybe I'm just used to paying higher prices, but $8-$10 for a 500 ml isn't completely unheard of. That calc's out to around a $10 to $13 bomber. People flock to pay that for FFF stuff and I think MO is better than most FFF's attempts at pale ales.
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Midorka posted:I actually forgot about Nugget Nectar and Troegenator, one of my favorite all-time beers. Still I don't see how they won over other breweries that are better all-around like Victory for instance. I'm sure Troegs guys are awesome, but there's only two beers I love, Flying Mouflan is good, but I don't love it. The rest of their beers I think are forgettable. Victory is definitely the better overall brewery, but Troegs is great for anyone within a reasonable range of the brewery. They do at least 15 one-off releases a year with the Scratch series which aren't always great, but at least are interesting. They have a tripel out right now, and had Naked Elf earlier this year, which was Mad Elf without all the sweet ingredients and was toned down in the boozey taste.Growler fills are usually really cheap there too. The Nugget Nectar batches are supposed to significantly larger than last year too, and last year it was finally possible to get a few cases without reserving them/winning lotteries, etc.
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