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Some of my best experiences were also co-op, but I also feel like those experiences wouldn't be anywhere near as special if it had traditional full co-op with selectable partners. The main reason why they were special was because we did awesome things together in areas I was struggling against on my own, with a complete stranger. Every time you do co-op with someone in what isn't just a mindless boss run, it feels like a bizarre bonding experience. Basically, by making co-op a mundane and easy thing to do, I feel like it would greatly cheapen the crazy fun of it.
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Dr. Video Games 0031 posted:Basically, by making co-op a mundane and easy thing to do, I feel like it would greatly cheapen the crazy fun of it. You should be able to directly invite people on your friends list into your game. That is literally the only change I'd make to the way Dark Souls co-op works.
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Dec 8, 2012 08:06
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Death Cube K posted:You should be able to directly invite people on your friends list into your game. That is literally the only change I'd make to the way Dark Souls co-op works. I enjoy co-op with pals too, but I really don't think that style of selective co-op is really the direction that Souls should head in. To each his own, though.
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Dec 8, 2012 08:09
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If they put in that kind of co-op, they should also add friendly fire.
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Dec 8, 2012 08:12
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Earlier I was wondering if Dark Souls II was going to be set right after the first one, and I had a crazy idea. You know what would be cool? In order to settle the question of which ending was canon, the answer would be both of them. Lordran's got some serious time rift problems, and maybe that would spread to the rest of the world as well– the player would be traveling between the reality of the Age of Dark and that of Fire Reborn in their quest, like a more grim version of A Link To The Past with a bit of the World Tendency system from Demon's Souls mixed in. One moment everything's normal, then bam! Astora Castle is now The Dark Lord's Palace. However, it doesn't look like it's going to be that way, but it was a neat thought of mine.
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Dec 8, 2012 08:12
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I'll settle for a rehash of Dark Souls covenant-style multiplayer options so long as they all actually work more often than not.
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Dec 8, 2012 08:12
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Haven't checked every bit of information, but is Miyazaki involved? Got some rumours from the Dark Souls wiki sites that try to nitpick on the wording of some phrases to prove our magnificent troll won't have anything to do with the sequel. Sequel to the best game ever and there's already fans trying to say it will be horrible. 
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Dec 8, 2012 08:13
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Azran posted:Haven't checked every bit of information, but is Miyazaki involved? Got some rumours from the Dark Souls wiki sites that try to nitpick on the wording of some phrases to prove our magnificent troll won't have anything to do with the sequel. Yes he is. Press release said he's the Dark Souls II Supervisor.
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Dec 8, 2012 08:16
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Azran posted:Haven't checked every bit of information, but is Miyazaki involved? Got some rumours from the Dark Souls wiki sites that try to nitpick on the wording of some phrases to prove our magnificent troll won't have anything to do with the sequel. The official press release says Miyazaki is again heading up the project. Who's saying it will be horrible? I haven't seen anything but excitement.
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Dec 8, 2012 08:16
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Snoop Rocket posted:If they put in that kind of co-op, they should also add friendly fire. Now we're cooking with gas.
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Spiderfist Island posted:Earlier I was wondering if Dark Souls II was going to be set right after the first one, and I had a crazy idea. That would be cool. Now that I think of it, Dark Souls is like a medieval Matrix and we're all Neos.
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Dec 8, 2012 08:17
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Snoop Rocket posted:If they put in that kind of co-op, they should also add friendly fire. I'd be down with this 100%.
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Dec 8, 2012 08:20
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If Dark Souls 2 is anything less than a nightmarish hell-world that hates you, I will be disappointed.
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Dec 8, 2012 08:23
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Death Cube K posted:I'd be down with this 100%. "Sorry man, I didn't see you standing there - my gigantic axe blocked my vision". 
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Dec 8, 2012 08:35
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I've just started playing Dark Souls (gently caress the Capra Demon) and I'm already unbelievably hyped for 2. I've forsaken Far Cry 3 and Hitman Absolution to play more Dark Souls. Everything in the game hates you so much but that satisfaction of winning is something that I haven't felt in a video game in years.
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Dec 8, 2012 08:36
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Snoop Rocket posted:If they put in that kind of co-op, they should also add friendly fire. If you were truly my ally, you wouldn't have been hurt by the Wrath of God.
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Dec 8, 2012 08:37
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Grondoth posted:If you were truly my ally, you wouldn't have been hurt by the Wrath of God. That awkward moment when you're a Blade of the Darkmoon and your friend is a sinner.
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Dec 8, 2012 08:41
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I get not having direct coop work due to kind of game they are making, but I think it'd be cool if say after your first playthrough more options to make online play easier open up to you. I mean people already go through ridiculous hoops to make stuff happen with their friends in Dark Souls on subsequent playthroughs, they'll do it in Dark Souls 2 as well. I doubt coop will be any easier from this trailer though. From what little we see, there is a guy who travels far and dies alone again and again. Sounds like the Dark Souls we all know.
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Dec 8, 2012 08:42
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Dr. Video Games 0031 posted:The official press release says Miyazaki is again heading up the project. To be fair, it does say that he's just supervising and that he isn't actually directing this time. I'm not saying it's right to take that and run with it into "this is gonna suck" territory, but I wonder how that'll affect the direction of the new game.
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Dec 8, 2012 08:46
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redmercer posted:I honestly can't believe people like you really exist The PC version made a lot of Dark Souls haters, what with its utter lack of polish, I was one of them and if it weren't for this trailer, I'd probably stay that way. Fortunately, the DSFix works flawlessly and not only makes mouse + keyboard actually viable, it makes the game prettier and smoother. I'm gonna donate to this DSFix guy, for sure.
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Dec 8, 2012 08:48
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Death Cube K posted:You should be able to directly invite people on your friends list into your game. That is literally the only change I'd make to the way Dark Souls co-op works. You know, I wouldn't be against this if: You had to have beaten the game first, or You had to spend a lot of (covenant) hand ins to get an item that allowed you to do it. Make inviteable co-op a Sun Bros thing, even.
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Dec 8, 2012 09:00
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SNARF SNARF SNARF posted:The PC version made a lot of Dark Souls haters, what with its utter lack of polish, I was one of them and if it weren't for this trailer, I'd probably stay that way. Can you sit through a movie at the theatre without ripping your eyes out? (24 FPS!) I just want to know how people wind up so goddamn Lemongrab
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Dec 8, 2012 09:02
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So now when I launch the game it won't start anymore. A large window pops up and instead of going to fullscreen it just stays there black screen and all.
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Dec 8, 2012 09:02
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Hatter106 posted:I'm surprised to hear people loved Dark Souls' story, I found it was much weaker than Demon's Souls. Everyone was some sort of undead, the only sympathetic character was the fire maiden and she was barely in it. You're fighting for a land founded by gods that's populated by zombies, who can relate to that? At least Demon's Souls had actual humans. I'd like to see them return to the more gritty medieval style rather than the creepy Alice In Wonderland high fantasy of Dark Souls. Lmao if you seriously consider Dark Souls aesthetically high fantasy rather than gothic.
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Dec 8, 2012 09:03
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redmercer posted:Can you sit through a movie at the theatre without ripping your eyes out? (24 FPS!) I just want to know how people wind up so goddamn Lemongrab 24 is pretty noticeable compared to 60 or even 30 when you're directly controlling the environment, especially in a game that sometimes requires a mere second-long reaction.
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Requested_Username posted:Lmao if you seriously consider Dark Souls aesthetically high fantasy rather than gothic. It does feel closer to high fantasy than Demon's Souls was, at least.
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Dec 8, 2012 09:06
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SNARF SNARF SNARF posted:The PC version made a lot of Dark Souls haters, what with its utter lack of polish, I was one of them and if it weren't for this trailer, I'd probably stay that way. It's perfectly playable without DSFix if you spend a minute rebinding the keys. It is by no means a good port but it's not as bad as people make it out to be. I've been playing with a keyboard since I bought it without DSFix and doing just fine.
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Dec 8, 2012 09:21
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The port would only make you a hater if you're too stupid to find out how to fix the port, and by association probably too stupid to beat Dark Souls. So hey, whatever.
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Dec 8, 2012 09:23
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SNARF SNARF SNARF posted:24 is pretty noticeable compared to 60 or even 30 when you're directly controlling the environment, especially in a game that sometimes requires a mere second-long reaction. I know exactly what you're saying and agree, but I'd also say that Dark Souls is a pretty middle framerate friendly game. I usually get a consistent 30FPS and it doesn't feel limiting at all. Orv posted:The port would only make you a hater if you're too stupid to find out how to fix the port, and by association probably too stupid to beat Dark Souls. Stupidity has nothing to do with it. The media has said that the game controls terribly with keyboard and mouse. Everyone mentioned DSFix but hardly anyone in the press mentioned the mouse fix mod. If the press tells you that mouse support sucks, and your friends tell you mouse support sucks, you'll believe it sucks and write the game off, it's only natural.
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Dec 8, 2012 09:28
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Fair enough. I'd take issue with the idea of people hating it then. At least for that reason. But hey, Dark Souls 2, hopefully in-built not-poo poo mouse support.
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Orv posted:The port would only make you a hater if you're too stupid to find out how to fix the port, and by association probably too stupid to beat Dark Souls. When I first bought the game on release launch, there was no such thing as a mouse fix. And I didn't keep up with Dark Souls because I had other poo poo to do.
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Dec 8, 2012 09:34
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So why not just play without the mouse? 
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I guess every review and dev comment on the game leading up to release saying "strongly recommended to use a gamepad" should have just said "don't buy this game if you don't have one" instead.
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Dec 8, 2012 09:43
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Except it is actually playable with a mouse and keyboard with DSFix, and discouraging people who don't have a gamepad is a bad idea. I didn't have one when I started playing. Now I do, and I play most of my games with it, but if somebody had told me it was completely unplayable with KB+M, I would never have bought it.
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Dec 8, 2012 09:47
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Every other game: janky PC port is inexcusable and reflective of the way in which developers are ignoring the PC in favor of dumbed-down console game for babbies Dark Souls: if you don't like the janky PC port you're stupid
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Zombies' Downfall posted:Every other game: janky PC port is inexcusable and reflective of the way in which developers are ignoring the PC in favor of dumbed-down console game for babbies This is actually what I believe. it is possible to like a game that was ported badly and not like the fact that the port is not better
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Dec 8, 2012 09:50
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Bertrand Hustle posted:Except it is actually playable with a mouse and keyboard with DSFix, and discouraging people who don't have a gamepad is a bad idea. That was my point. I'm glad a fix was made, though.
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Zombies' Downfall posted:Every other game: janky PC port is inexcusable and reflective of the way in which developers are ignoring the PC in favor of dumbed-down console game for babbies Alright, alright, excessive hyperbole on my part, but my main idea is the same. You shouldn't hate a game because of a bad port if you can fix it with five minutes work.
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Orv posted:Alright, alright, excessive hyperbole on my part, but my main idea is the same. You shouldn't hate a game because of a bad port if you can fix it with five minutes work. Saints Row 2: Still completely fuckbusted by this standard
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What other issues do people have aside from the fps lock and the kbm stuff?
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