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SeanBeansShako posted:Why did they do that with the nineties action figuires before the prequals happened anyways? It's not without precedent; by the end of the Marvel series, Luke was basically blond Rambo.
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Pesky Splinter posted:I have no idea, but it got ridiculous when they were doing the figures for Obi-Wan and Lando. Jesus, that looks like an action figure of Fred Armisen dressed as Leia.
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Thwomp posted:Jesus, that looks like an action figure of Fred Armisen dressed as Leia. Well, that seals it. I totally need to make a Portlandia action figure now.
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I've still got that Leia figure in the box. I got one of the alternate ones with a different number of lines on her belt or some poo poo that made it worth more.
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Talking about that action figure book, made me wonder if they did an updated one. So as an early Christmas present to myself, I got it. It has 47 pages on Clonetrooper variations, with six figures to a page. That's 282 figures, just of Clonetroopers.  I'm gonna have to share some of this poo poo with you all (not the 300 clonetroopers, obviously). Pesky Splinter fucked around with this message at 23:27 on Dec 17, 2012 |
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Is Stephen Sansweet the superfan who had collected almost every single piece of merchandise or memorabilia conceivable or am I thinking of somebody else?
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Yes he is.  I shudder to think how much money he's spent on this stuff. Wikipedia posted:"Sansweet has turned his love of the Star Wars saga into a second career, acting as Lucasfilm’s liaison to fans worldwide, and their liaison to the company. He has done presentations at well over 100 conventions in the U.S. and many more internationally from the U.K., France, Spain, and Germany, to Australia, Japan, Mexico, and Finland.
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Pesky Splinter posted:Talking about that action figure book, made me wonder if they did an updated one. So as an early Christmas present to myself, I got it. That Chewbacca is looking pretty 
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I think bib Fortuna is more  and the guy one row back and all the way on the right is... very flat faced.
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Calax posted:I think bib Fortuna is more He looks like the leech man from The X-Files. Also, I swear the Christopher Lee action figure is rolling his eyes at this.
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Calax posted:I think bib Fortuna is more Yeah, that's the Anakin ghost figure from the original Kenner line. The molding techniques of time we less than stellar. It's also why that Chewbacca figure has a perm. Glad to hear that guy made a new edition of the book. I have the original version of the thing, and it's falling apart.
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I got something to say about KotorII and I really hope this thread is the right place for it. So I'm going based on what I remember about the game and the details, so I hope I don't have too much wrong. I know if I get on wookieepedia I'll not leave for a few hours and I want to avoid that. I think KotorII is a good game, but a better story. Shocking, I know, but something I don't think has been discussed is how it's all about mothers and motherhood and parenting (and daughters as well, but I'll get into that). Obviously you've got Kreia as a mother figure, and she ties the whole thing together, but the game's got a hell of a lot more going for it than that. I'm going to be discussing some things that were partially cut content (although that's not so much of a problem these days what with the restoration and all), so fair warning. Canonically, the main character is a woman, but instead of the boring nonentity disciple as a follower she got the handmaiden because the handmaiden is, frankly, better in every way. Anyway, that's a bad segway into how I want to talk about the handmaiden, since her mother's identity and her identity are bound together. I do buy into the theory that Arren Kae, the handmaiden's mother, and Kreia were the same person, which is best told here. (warning: HUGE KotorII spoilers) I think in some sense they have to be, for the game to make thematic sense. Ultimately the Handmaiden, officially named Brianna, is looking for a surrogate mother. She first latches onto Atris, who doesn't give her what she needs - Atris either deliberately or through neglect failed to identify and nurture the potential within Brianna, represented by her connection to the force which the Exile uncovers through the course of the game. So when the handmaiden leaves and attaches herself to the Exile, she's found a new mother figure, one who provides her with the instruction and love she needs. In a very real sense that's what the Exile is, to all the potential Jedi she has around her: a mother. Hell, a lot of her apprentices are orphans. The Exile all but adopts Visas Marr. Now let's look at Telos, and the two characters responsible for restoring it: Bao Dur and G0-T0. If you never picked up on it, G0-T0 was the AI that was SUPPOSED to aid in rebuilding Telos and the republic - but went rogue instead. Nurturing, the creation of life: These are motherly traits, or at least those of a parent. Bao Dur gets it - he's down in the muck with his hands dirty trying to breathe life into a devastated planet. Parenting isn't easy - turning your allies into Jedi, helping them along to the fullness of their potential is a hard, arduous task. G0-T0.... sucks at it. He rejects fixing Telos in favor of founding a criminal empire ostensibly to restore the Republic, but his efforts cause chaos and pain. It's the Exile who succeeds in getting the Republic through its rough patch, not G0-T0. gently caress that ball, he's an awful parent figure. Bao Dur rules. Now let's look at HK-47 and the HK-50 series. HK-47 hates and despises his offspring at first, because while they are LIKE him, they AREN'T him - he's unique and awesome, they're... annoyingly hard to eradicate. Eventually he comes to take charge of them and remake them, becoming an incredibly twisted parent figure to a bunch of misfit droids, and may the Force have mercy on the galaxy. This parenting would seem to be out of character for the violently hilarious HK-47, but he's character is much more subtle in KotoRII than he ever was in the original. My theory is that Revan did a little bit of tweaking to his droid offspring before he left - turning the psychopath into a psychopath with a sense of perspective and purpose. Mandalore is doing something very similar to HK-47: finding his children, scattered across the galaxy, and taking up the role of leading them again. Parenting, again. Now onto Atris. Atris is a dark reflection of the Exile: She's a mother figure, but she stifles and controls her children, preventing them from achieving their potential even though it's likely they're force sensitive. That's her failure, and all her kids end up DEAD. Atris is the bad, bad mother: controlling, but most importantly restrictive. Kreia's a whole boatload of mother issues wrapped in the shell of a blind lady, and that helps make her the most interesting character in all of Star Wars. Her relationship with the Exile is complicated, to say the least: Nurturing, yet controlling, desiring freedom of thought while withholding the truth. It's the complexity of her role as a mother - nurturing in some ways, stifling in others, that makes her such a great character. She encapsulates the themes of the game in one character: The power and responsibility of being a parent and raising another to fulfill their potential, and the dangers of using those powers selfishly or dangerously. She's abandoned one child (the Handmaiden), adopted another (the Exile). And then there's her relationship to Revan - she's his Master, first and last, and she undoubtedly had the biggest impact on his development. So that's why KotorII is a game about being a mommy. Edit: This is one of the larger effortposts I've made on SA. God help me, I wrote a bunch of words about Star Wars. I am that for whom the thread is titled.
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VanSandman posted:Lots of words about KOTOR Goddamn, now I want to play KOTOR II again. And mourn the loss of KOTOR III.
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Did you play it with the restored content mod? a different team pulled it off after the original guys suffocated themselves with e-drama. It is a good game that stirs things up and points things out, I am a little weary that Star Wars has essentially become geek comfort food so something like KOTOR 2 is a breath of fresh air. Shame the dumb tie in books and Bioware ignore it. Also, nobody fucks with the space Jesus. SeanBeansShako fucked around with this message at 13:38 on Dec 28, 2012 |
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Honestly, reading the LP again satisfies any urge to replay KOTORII. It covers everything and as VanSandman said, it's more about the story than the gameplay anyway.
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It's criminal that KOTOR2 was left so unfinished when we got two Force Unleashed games. Also, after reading 305 pages of this thread, I'm glad I'm not the only one that thought that everything post-NJO was stupid as hell.
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chaosrefined posted:It's criminal that KOTOR2 was left so unfinished when we got two Force Unleashed games. The Force Unleashed 2 was left unfinished too actually. It was rushed out the door and the team laid off, and that is why it ends on a ridiculous cliffhanger that will never be resolved because they fully expected to get a sequel or DLC when designing it instead of "out the loving door, we're done."
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SeanBeansShako posted:It is a good game that stirs things up and points things out, I am a little weary that Star Wars has essentially become geek comfort food so something like KOTOR 2 is a breath of fresh air. On occasion, KOTOR II seems akin to what Karen Traviss might have wanted to say about the prequel Jedi, but without her massive bias in favour of the MANDOS.
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Metal Loaf posted:On occasion, KOTOR II seems akin to what Karen Traviss might have wanted to say about the prequel Jedi, but without her massive bias in favour of the MANDOS. Actual fascists really ought not go around accusing others of fascism.
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Metal Loaf posted:On occasion, KOTOR II seems akin to what Karen Traviss might have wanted to say about the prequel Jedi, but without her massive bias in favour of the MANDOS. Speaking of: Never considered that theme, VanSandman. Very interesting.
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ImpAtom posted:The Force Unleashed 2 was left unfinished too actually. It was rushed out the door and the team laid off, and that is why it ends on a ridiculous cliffhanger that will never be resolved because they fully expected to get a sequel or DLC when designing it instead of "out the loving door, we're done." Didn't realise that, explains why it was so abysmally short then. I'm just upset that KOTOR3 was cancelled and we got that awful Revan book instead.
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As much as I wish KOTOR 3 hadn't been cancelled, the guy who was its lead designer was then reassigned to be the lead designer for The Force Unleashed, so...that makes me wonder if a bullet might have been dodged.
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Chairman Capone posted:As much as I wish KOTOR 3 hadn't been cancelled, the guy who was its lead designer was then reassigned to be the lead designer for The Force Unleashed, so...that makes me wonder if a bullet might have been dodged. Was KotOR3 not being developed by Bioware/Obsidian then? That would have made for an... interesting third installment.
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Here's some geeky question for ya: What's the TO&E of the Emire at the time of ANH? Specifically, how many Star Destroyers does the Emperor have? And where are they located? Surely they can't all have been destroyed in the final battle of ANH? What the Super Star Destroyer and why is it important? And how big is it anyway? Super Star Destroyers are supposed to be so great, so how many does the Empire actually have? And where are they located throughout the galaxy? How big is a Super Star Destroyer Different books give different lengths - what the hell? How big is the Death Star II? Circumference, or width, whatever. How complete was the Death Star II when it was blown up? It looks like it was 3/4ths complete, is this true? The Clerks question; what support staff was on the Death Star II when it was blown up? Was anybody there? A skeleton staff? Soldiers? Construction workers? How many TIE fighters/bombers does a Star Destroyer carry? How many crew and of what type serve on board the Star Destroyer? How fast can an X-Wing/TIE fighter fly? This is in the RPG books I'm sure, but I'm having trouble finding it. How much does stuff cost in the future The RPG books give costs in credits for various items, (An X-Wing is 180,000 credits new, 90,000 credits used) does anybody know the costs of more stuff? Jabba is rich, right? Like how rich? What's his net worth? Same with the net worth of any supremely rich character in the Star Wars universe. Do the books make mention of how much stuff costs?Like the bet for Anakin and the pod, Watto says no pod is worth two slaves, or somesuch, but how much was the amount of the actual bet?
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Flying Guillotine posted:
I'm going to answer these two questions based the only post-movie SW space action that really matters: the old X-Wing and Tie Fighter games. The number of TIEs carried by Star Destroyers vary from just a few squadrons to a total B.S. infinite spawn. This isn't too bad if it's something that can be disabled like an Assault Gunboat and you have ion cannons, but otherwise you're often better off leaving a straggler from each squadron so six more don't suddenly appear during those frustrating escort missions. According to Wookiepedia, the maximum speeds of the mainstay fighters are as follows: X-Wing: 100 Y-Wing: 80 A-Wing: 120 B-Wing: 91 TIE Fighter: 100 TIE Bomber: 60 TIE Interceptor: 111 TIE Avenger: 145 (edit: These numbers don't all ring true in my fuzzy memory. I'm pretty sure X-Wings were slightly faster than TIE Fighters and TIE Interceptors could outrun an A-Wing.) The units are supposedly "MGLT" which is not fully explained, and is probably best left that way. However, that doesn't stop Wookiepedia from trying! However, we all know that you can divert power from your weapons and shields to the engines and get better speeds than those. I'm not going into the more obscure TIEs and definitely not into the Missile Boats' weird space afterburner. Let me conclude with another question: Why did the strike force in the Battle of Yavin bother shooting at the surface defenses at the beginning rather than just dive into the trench? There have to be way more towers along the equator of a moon-sized base than they would ever significantly reduce anyway. I know the real answer is: "It's fun to kill Porkins." Looking for the geeky answer.
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Derek Dominoe posted:
Being a suicidal distraction, I think. Tarkin was expecting some piddling stupid attempt from them to prevent their moon from being blown up, and if all their ships had gone for the trench, they may have tossed out more fighters. By keeping all but 3 ships at a time up top, it seemed like they wanted to bluff Tarkin into underreacting and not taking the threat seriously.
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Flying Guillotine posted:Here's some geeky question for ya:
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Flying Guillotine posted:What the Super Star Destroyer and why is it important? And how big is it anyway? Super Star Destroyers are supposed to be so great, so how many does the Empire actually have? And where are they located throughout the galaxy? I think there were originally four. I'm going to guess that I read that in The Essential Chronology when it was first released. Executor was Darth Vader's flagship in the movies, Lusankya and Iron Fist both appear in the X-Wing books, and Guardian is only mentioned in supplementary materials. Other than that, there's the one Zsinj tried and failed to pinch from its dry dock in one of the X-Wing books, the one Admiral Daala stole from one of the warlords in Darksaber, the one Pellaeon commandeered from a different warlord, whatever kind of ship Jerec had in Dark Forces II, and I think the Empire had one in one of the late NJO books. quote:How big is a Super Star Destroyer Different books give different lengths - what the hell? It is still the subject of a very long, very complex and very stupid debate. quote:Do the books make mention of how much stuff costs?Like the bet for Anakin and the pod, Watto says no pod is worth two slaves, or somesuch, but how much was the amount of the actual bet? Money seems kind of weird. In The Courtship Of Princess Leia (currently being covered in the Let's Read thread) Han Solo manages to win something like two billion credits in a card game and his opponent bets a planet against it. In one of the Star Wars Tales comics, Lando wins the Cloud City after betting five million credits and a used starship lot against it.
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Flying Guillotine posted:How complete was the Death Star II when it was blown up? It looks like it was 3/4ths complete, is this true? It was quite operational. Really the only thing left to complete was the gym, fiesta deck, and Starbucks.
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Dr. Benway posted:It was quite operational. Really the only thing left to complete was the gym, fiesta deck, and Starbucks. They were going to put in a higher fence around the reactor shaft in the throne room, but their budget couldn't stretch to it.
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Flying Guillotine posted:Here's some geeky question for ya: Based on dialog and what we see onscreen and taking into account EU-material, all of the above were onboard. Probably a good deal of slave labor and prisoners as well. I'm also a subscriber of the Endor Holocaust theory. It is absurd to think "reality" would have been Happy Ever After.
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LLJKSiLk posted:Based on dialog and what we see onscreen and taking into account EU-material, all of the above were onboard. Probably a good deal of slave labor and prisoners as well.
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That was one of the things I liked about the Death Star book. It acknowledged that there were normal people on it just running restaurants and poo poo, and it let you see some of them. But yeah everyone in the EU seems to not really care about extreme loss of life. See also: Kyp Durron/Carida.
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Oh drat I forgot that comes out tomorrow. I've had the kindle version preordered forever.
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He's doing a Scoundrels tour if anyone is interested in meeting him/getting your poo poo signed.
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Red Robin Hood posted:He's doing a Scoundrels tour if anyone is interested in meeting him/getting your poo poo signed. West coast only 
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