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Added the years I know, the others require me to do some digging and/or researching I'm a bit too tired/apathetic to do atm.
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Mornacale posted:
In other news, the Bloggers' ace has some words about their new shortstop:  e: If you'd prefer I just copy/paste stuff into the thread, I can do that too. Just trying to reduce clutter. 
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I posted my roster here: http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3499603&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=72#post410246143
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No exciting changes, just adding Stieb and Rixey. 30-Man Roster: C Jorge Posada (1997) C Don Slaught (1983) UT George Brett (1983) 2B Ryne Sandberg (1985) 2B Rod Carew (1975) SS Derek Jeter (1997) SS Barry Larkin (1987) 3B Mike Schmidt (1978) 4C Mel Ott (1933) [from the Juggs] LF Ted Williams (1939?) [Draft info says '39, cbx says '55? {via the Super Draft}] CF Bernie Williams (1997) OF Brian Giles (1995) OF Eric Davis (1987) UT Willie Stargell (1965) SP Bert Blyleven (1975) SP Greg Maddux (1994) SP Luis Tiant (1966) SP Clifton Lee (2004) SP Tom Seaver (1984) [old, but after a year like that...] SP Mike Garcia (1954) SP Orel Hershiser (1995) SP Dave Stieb (1985) SW Eppa Rixey (1913) SW Sonny Siebert (1966) RP Tom HEN-KE (1992) RP Goose Gossage (1984) RP Jeff Reardon (1981) RP John Franco (1987) RP Bill Campbell (1975) RP Paul Assenmacher (1995) Lineups: 2B Rod Carew RF Mel Ott LF Ted Williams 3B Mike Schmidt 1B George Brett CF Bernie Williams C Jorge Posada SS Derek Jeter C Don Slaught (catches for Lee) 2B Ryne Sandberg SS Barry Larkin OF Eric Davis UT Willie Stargell OF Brian Giles Pitching: SP Greg Maddux SP Bert Blyleven SP Cliff Lee SP Dave Stieb SP Tom Seaver CL Tom Henke SU Goose Gossage SR Jeff Reardon SR John Franco MR Bill Campbell LR Mike Garcia Minors: SP Luis Tiant SP Orel Hershiser SW Eppa Rixey SW Sonny Siebert RP Paul Assenmacher Home Stadium: the Ring of Iron (Atlanta-Fulton County Stadium, 330/385/402/385/330 [final dimensions]) Strategy (Rate on a scale from -5 to +5) Hit and Run: -2 Sacrifice Bunt: -4 Squeeze Play: -3 Trying for extra bases: -2 Stealing Bases: -1 Aggressively Tagging Up: -1 Pitch Outs (to prevent stolen bases): -2 Giving Intentional Walks: -3 Pitching Around Good Hitters: +1 Bringing the Infield In: -2 Guarding the Lines: +1 Making Cutoff Throws: +1 Bringing in Pinch Hitters: -2 Bringing in Pinch Runners: +1 Bringing in Defensive Replacements: +1 Starting Pitchers on Short Rest: +1 Letting pitchers pitch throw trouble: -1 Letting Pitchers rack up high pitch counts: +2 Warm Sarsaparilla fucked around with this message at 21:05 on Dec 12, 2012 |
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 Feeder teams: 1946 Indians 1948 Athletics 1955 Redlegs 1980 Athletics 2004 Red Sox The Landers make the following feeder changes: Sherm Lollar returns to the 1946 Indians. Bronson Arroyo returns to the 2004 Red Sox. Scott Williamson returns to the 2004 Red Sox. Ed Bailey joins the team from the 1955 Redlegs. Johnny Temple joins the team, also from the 1955 Redlegs. Elmer Valo joins the team from the 1948 Athletics. Luna Landers Final Roster: Catchers: 19?? Josh Gibson 1911 Jack Lapp (lappja01) 1955 Ed Bailey (baileed01) Infielders: 1911 Eddie Collins (collied01) 1999 Nomar Garciaparra (garcino01) 1979 George Brett (brettge01) 2004 Miguel Tejada (tejadmi01) 1948 Eddie Joost (joosted01) 1948 Nellie Fox (foxne01) 2004 Mark Bellhorn (bellhma01) 1946 Eddie Yost (yosted01) 1991 Tim Teufel (teufeti01) 1955 Johnny Temple (templjo01) Outfielders: 1985 Tim Raines (raineti01) 1938 Joe DiMaggio (dimagjo01) 1965 Hank Aaron (aaronha01) 2004 Manny Ramirez (ramirma02) 1980 Dwayne Murphy (murphydw01) 1968 Willie Horton (hortowi01) 1948 Elmer Valo (valoel01) Pitchers: 1999 Pedro Martinez (martipe02) 1985 Roger Clemens (clemero02) 1946 Bob Feller (fellebo01) 1977 Rick Reuschel (reuscri01) 1979 Don Sutton (suttodo01) 1968 Denny McLain (mclaide01) 1980 J.R. Richard (richajr01) 1918 Slim Love (lovesl01) 1979 Larry Gura (gurala01) 1980 Rick Langford (langfri01) 1999 Mariano Rivera (riverma01) 1985 Tom Henke (henketo01) 2006 Joe Nathan (nathajo01) 1984 Craig Lefferts (leffecr01) 2004 Keith Foulke (foulkke01) 1996 Curt Leskanic (leskacu01) Lineups: LF Tim Raines '85 2B Eddie Collins '11 CF Joe DiMaggio '38 C Josh Gibson '?? DH Manny Ramirez '04 RF Hank Aaron '65 3B George Brett '79 1B Nomar Garciaparra '99 SS Miguel Tejada '04 Bench: C Ed Bailey '55 IF Eddie Joost '48 IF Johnny Temple '55 OF Dwayne Murphy '80 OF Elmer Valo '48 Rotation: SP Pedro Martinez '99 SP Roger Clemens '85 SP Don Sutton '79 SP Rick Reuschel '77 SP J.R. Richard '80 (Personal Catcher: Ed Bailey) CL Mariano Rivera '99 SU Tom Henke '85 SR Joe Nathan '06 SR Craig Lefferts '84 MR Keith Foulke '04 LR Bob Feller '46 Minors: 1911 Jack Lapp 1948 Nellie Fox 2004 Mark Bellhorn 1946 Eddie Yost 1991 Tim Teufel 1968 Willie Horton 1968 Denny McLain 1996 Curt Leskanic 1918 Slim Love 1979 Larry Gura 1980 Rick Langford Home Stadium: Moonbase 0-2, Super League VIII Version Artificial turf, domed stadium with artificial gravity simulating the conditions of San Diego, California. LF: 300 LCF: 330 CF: 420 RCF: 390 RF: 360 Sliders Hit and Run: -5 Sacrifice Bunt: -5 Squeeze Play: -5 Trying for extra bases: +2 Stealing Bases: +3 Aggressively Tagging Up: +2 Pitch Outs (to prevent stolen bases): -5 Giving Intentional Walks: -5 Pitching Around Good Hitters: 0 Bringing the Infield In: 0 Guarding the Lines: 0 Making Cutoff Throws: 2 Bringing in Pinch Hitters: -2 Bringing in Pinch Runners: -3 Bringing in Defensive Replacements: 0 Starting Pitchers on Short Rest: -4 Letting pitchers pitch throw through trouble: 0
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  : Now, my Rollies and players in exile, Hath not old custom made this team more sweet Than one of simple skill? Are not these men More free from scorn than the envious owner? Here feel we not the penalty of Smasher, The seasons' difference, as the errors And churlish chiding of the booted ball, Which, when it rolls and skips along the ground, Even till I shake with rage, I smile and say, “This is no accident. These are but sluggers That feelingly persuade me what I am."  : So, ah, we're not moving to the DH league? And we're still putting guys out there who think a double play is some kind of chewing gum?: Fate's shadow prevents our return to the division from which we sprung. But we should probably get rid of that tricky right field corner, just the same.Super League VIII code:
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Naturally I don't have archives so I can't check the old threads for more detailed information, but from what I had saved the last time I saved my roster, what I could find in this thread & what I remember this is what I've got: Lineup: RF 2003 Ichiro 2B 1905 Nap Lajoie LF 1989 Barry Bonds 1B 2007 Albert Pujols CF 1990 Ken Griffey Jr. SS 1986 Alan Trammell C 2006 Joe Mauer 3B 1968 Eddie Mathews 1999 Mike Lieberthal 1998/2004 Placido Polanco 1930 Kiki Cuyler 1967 Rico Petrocelli ??? Taffy Wright 2006 Justin Morneau Minors: 1926 Pat Collins 1991 Vince Coleman 1989 Andy Van Slyke 1976 Rusty Staub Rotation: 1994 Pedro Martinez 2006 Johan Santana 1986 Roger Clemens (definitely Red Sox years but no idea which one) ??? Dock Ellis 1997? Kevin Brown CL 1984 Dennis Eckersley SU 2004 Billy Wagner SR 2006 Joe Nathan SR 1981 Jeff Reardon MR 2006 Pat Neshek LR 2010 Joba Chamberlain Minors: 1991 Jeff Innis 1991 Frank Viola 1905 Cy Falkenberg 1912 Stan Coveleski 1990 Bob Welch 1991 David Cone 1991 John Franco 1948 Johnny Antonelli StupidSexyMothman fucked around with this message at 04:22 on Dec 13, 2012 |
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You know that in one day, the new Dangan Ronpa LP got more views that this thread has in five months? Kind of makes all that work I put into the Bearers obit pointless. Kind of makes me think about how much I suck, which is a lot. But, I'm not the only one around here that sucks a lot, and it's time to prove it! This is the... Super-Official, Legally Binding Super-League VIII Preview: Mark Bellhorn Division!  The Mark Bellhorn Division has been, for the most part, a place where mediocre teams live short, painful lives. Over the first seven seasons of the Super-League, only one Mark Bellhorn team has won the Super-League Championship: the infamous Gander Doppel-Bangers. Last season, the Mark Bellhorn Division hit a new low. The Juggernauts self-destructed in a profoundly boring fashion, the Splinter Cells ran out of players, and the Mooglies traded themselves into extinction, proving a strong link between owning Ted Williams and trading addiction. That left the Phoenixes to pick up the division crown by default. With a lot of new faces, this is probably with the division with the highest chance of having an expansion team as its champion.  The Barons are a new team, and were the runners up in the Expansion Cup. How predictive that is for their future success is hard to say, but it's probably not a bad sign. As for their roster, it's deadball pitching and and low-contact, high-power hitting, which is an unusual combination, and it will be interesting to see how this comes together.  The Cleveland Commies are, to be clear, a distinct entity from the Super-League IV Cleveland Communists, although the existence of two different Marxist teams from Cleveland does raise certain questions about the strength of Bolshevism in Cuyahoga County. As for this team, it uses platoons to cover up its weaknesses on offense. In the past, the effectiveness of platoons like this in the Super-League has been mixed, but, in a weak division, could this be enough?  The Phoenixes are not really that good of team. I don't think anyone would really disagree with that. They did win the division last season, but only because someone had to. They are a flawed team, without enough offense or defense to be considered true contenders. Still, until someone proves they can defeat them over the course of the season, it's their division to lose.  For those of you who don't follow hockey, here's a brief history of the Hartford Whalers: Once upon a time, during the '70s, some men decided that they'd make their own hockey league to compete with the NHL called the WHA. In choosing where to locate franchises, they chose a mix of teams in markets that were starved for hockey but didn't have NHL teams (Quebec City, Edmonton, Winnipeg) and big market cities where they'd be competing with existing NHL teams (New York, Chicago, Boston). And so, the New England Whalers were founded in Boston to compete with the Bruins. This went about as well as you could imagine, and the Whalers soon retreated down the Mass Turnpike, down I-91 to Hartford, where they could eke out a meager existence. Eventually, the NHL took in the few surviving WHA teams, the Whalers among them, giving the team a new lease of life. Unfortunately, that lease was mainly dependent on drawing massive amounts of fans from Boston and New York when the Whalers played the Bruina and Rangers, which, as you might guess, left the Whalers as perhaps the smallest of small market teams. Still, it wasn't so bad, and they did have at least the semblance of a local fanbase. And that's when Gary Bettman happened. Bettman had dreams of turning the NHL into a truly national league, despite the fact that most people in the South, who lived in lands without ice or snow, had neither interest nor understanding of the game of hockey. But, well, Bettman assumed they could be trained. Moreover, he saw a chance to realign his league into bigger markets. Minnesota may have had a great hockey tradition, but Dallas had more people. Winnipeg may have had an incredible fan base, but, well, Phoenix was where the money was better. Like some sort of small-market grim reaper, Bettman moved through the league, taking teams from the poor, and giving them to the rich. And if the rich had no use for the teams he was giving them, Bettman didn't mind. They'd warm up to hockey occasionally, wouldn't they? Hartford held out longer than most, but, by 1997, Bettman came for them as well, and the Whalers were taken from their home and moved to North Carolina, where they became the Hurricanes, truly, a ghastly fate. The point of this story? That if the real Whalers couldn't avoid such a grim end, what chance to these Whalers have?  Here's the thing, when I saw the Arguments' first roster, I thought to myself "Well, these guys aren't going anywhere." But, somehow, they've cobbled together a roster that looks downright reasonable. Don't get me wrong, they've still got problems, because they outfield is ancient, and if any of them goes down, the potential replacements include a legitimately insane man and Troy O'Leary, and that would probably kill them, but, on its face, they've got a puncher's chance. Oh, and, bizarrely enough, despite being named the "New England" Argument, they're located in Cooperstown, New York, which...uh...is decidedly not in New England. Positional Breakdown Catcher 1. '34 Gabby Hartnett (NEA) 2. '38 Bill Dickey (FIN) 3. '78 Carlton Fisk (BRN) 4. '72 Thurman Munson (HAR) 5. '04 Javy Lopez/'64 Pagliaroni (CLO) The top three are pretty close in value, and the order they're in is just a guess based on past performances, although Fisk has probably been the best of all three in the past couple of seasons, but who knows if that will hold up. Munson is a step behind the other three, mainly because of a lack of power. The Lopez/Pagliaroni situation is going to be interesting. Lopez should flash good power for a catcher, but I'm not sure if he's capable of much else. First Baseman 1. '11 Prince Fielder (BRN) 2. '64 Harmon Killebrew (HAR) 3. '38 Lou Gehrig (FIN) 4. '11 Paul Konerko (CLO) 5. '97 Mo Vaughn (NEA) I like Fielder and, unlike Killebrew, I don't think he'll hit .220 in the Super-League, so he gets the top spot. Killebrew is going to hit 30 home runs and strike out 150 times, and that's all there is to it. Lou Gehrig should be better, but Mogul sees his career coming to a complete stop in 1939, and so feels compelled to model a steep decline for the '38 Gehrig. At least, that's my theory. Konerko is an average Super-League first baseman, which seems oddly fitting for him. Mo Vaughn can't really field and is not very durable at all for a first baseman. Still, if he's healthy, he might be useful. Second Baseman '11 Eddie Collins (HAR) '69 Joe Morgan (CLO) '96 Roberto Alomar (FIN) '51 Red Schoendienst (BRN) '45 Snuffy Stirnweiss (NEA) Collins gets the nod over Morgan because he's closer to his prime. That said, while Collins will probably outhit Morgan by about 50 points, they should be roughly equivalent in value, because Morgan is a better fielder, draws more walks and hits more home runs. Alomar is getting a bit older in '96, though he's still basically in his prime, Mogul doesn't like him much, though. As for Schoendienst, it's time you learned a bitter truth about middle infielders from the past...very few of them could hit. Schoendienst had a 94 OPS+, 87 home runs over 19 seasons, and a lifetime OBP of .337. Good glove, though. Oh, and then there's Snuffy. Poor Snuffy. Third Baseman '76 Mike Schmidt (HAR) '12 Ryan Zimmerman (CLO) '66 Brooks Robinson (BRN) '97 John Valentin (NEA) '06 Mark Bellhorn (FIN) Schmidt is probably the greatest 3B around. So there's that. Zimmerman I put ahead of Robinson because I worry that Brooks, who wasn't much of a hitter in real life, will be even less so in the Super-League. Valentin is filler that you might want to replace at some point. But at least he has some pop in his bat. Bellhorn, if he plays an entire season, will strike out 200 times on the season, but also draw 75 walks and hit 20 home runs. Shortstop 1. '12 Honus Wagner (BRN) 2. '97 Nomar Garciaparra (NEA) 3. '90 Barry Larkin (FIN) 4. '85 Ozzie Smith (HAR) 5. '04 Melvin Mora (CLO) Wagner is the best shortstop ever, even if he is a bit old by 1912. Garciaparra has a good enough bat to carry his glove at SS, and that's all you can ask of him. Larkin has a lot of skills that don't create gaudy numbers, but make him useful. Ozzie Smith is all glove, no bat. And Melvin Mora? That's not going to work. Brutal defender, mediocre hitter. This needs to get fixed. Left Fielder 1. '51 Stan Musial (BRN) 2. '57 Ted Williams (NEA) 3. '89 Rickey Henderson (FIN) 4. '11 Carlos Quentin/'11 Mike Morse (CLO) 5. '76 Greg Luzinski (HAR) Stan the Man is in his prime and might be the best hitter in this division. Ted Williams can still rake, but is getting older, and will be an injury risk. And, of course, he can't field. Henderson still has that good combination of power and speed, and should be a good leadoff man. I like Quentin in theory, but I'm not sure how well he'll work out in practice, though Morse as a right-handed caddy should help. Luzinski is replaceable. Center Fielder 1. '64 Mickey Mantle (NEA) 2. '37 Earl Averill/'12 Jayson Werth (CLO) 3. '04 Carlos Beltran (FIN) 4. '78 Fred Lynn (BRN) 5. '72 Bobby Murcer/'76 Gary Maddox (HAR) Mantle is the best of this group...assuming he's healthy, which, by '64, is not really certain. I think the Averill/Werth platoon should be good, but this ranking is more on a hunch than anything else. Beltran has been up and down in the Super-League, and there are no guarantees with him. Fred Lynn should be better than he is in the Super-League, probably, but he isn't. Murcer/Maddox will feature elite defense, but spotty hitting. Right Fielder 1. '71 Reggie Jackson (HAR) 2. '64 Roberto Clemente (CLO) 3. '78 Dwight Evans (BRN) 4. '64 Roger Maris (NEA) 5. '06 Brian Giles (FIN) Jackson is the only one who I can give unqualified support to. Clemente doesn't draw walks or hit for power. Evans is not quite in his prime. Maris is past his, and Giles is way, way, way past his AND isn't a real right fielder. Designated Hitter 1. '64 Willie Stargell (CLO) 2. '95 Wade Boggs (HAR) 3. '78 Jim Rice (BRN) 4. '45 Charlie Keller (NEA) 5. '06 Jack Cust/'06 Mike Piazza (FIN) Stargell has been spotty in the Super-League, but I like him better than the rest. Boggs is 37 years old, and that's a red flag. Jim Rice isn't going to get to play in Fenway, and that's going to hurt his numbers. Keller is probably going to be below-average for a DH in the Super-League. And the Cust/Piazza platoon...well, I wish I could say I think it will work but Cust had such a big hole in his swing he couldn't even deal with the pitching in the real world, let alone in the Super-League, and Mike Piazza is, as of 2006, an old ex-catcher with worn-down knees. Bench 1. '06 Adrian Gonzalez/'11 Marco Scutaro/'38 Red Rolfe/'78 Chet Lemon (FIN) 2. '95 Jorge Posada/'76 Dave Cash/'95 Derek Jeter/'05 Vernon Wells (HAR) 3. '11 Alexei Ramirez/'04 Brian Roberts/Platoon Partners (CLO) 4. '51 Del Rice/'78 Carl Yastrzemski/'51 Solly Hemus/'77 Buddy Bell/'12 Mike Donlin (BRN) 5. '64 Elston Howard/'45 Nick Etten/'57 Frank Malzone/'57 Jim Piersall/'57 Jackie Jensen (NEA) I don't like any of these benches, actually. Still, Lemon is a solid 4th outfielder and Rolfe and Gonzalez are both plausible starters. As for Scooter, if he starts, something has gone terribly wrong. The Whalers' bench in roughly as good, but Wells isn't as good as Lemon, and I'm not sure what you're going to get from young Posada and Jeter. The Commies' don't really have a bench, so much as a place to store the other half of their platoons. I do like Roberts, though. Let's all pray the Barons don't have injuries. And the Arguments are even worse because there's almost no chance they won't have to turn to bench at some point given the ages of their starters. SP1 1. 89 John Clarkson (BRN) 2. '95 Greg Maddux (CLO) 3. '95 Roger Clemens (NEA) 4. '76 Steve Carlton (HAR) 5. '64 Jim Bunning (FIN) All good starters, and this ranking is more of a subjective evaluation than anything else. Then again, given the terms of the Commies-Landers deal, I'm not sure the Commies will get to hold onto Maddux for long. SP2 1. '71 Don Sutton (FIN) 2. '96 Kevin Brown (CLO) 3. '66 Steve "Sting" Carlton (HAR) 4. '64 Whitey Ford (NEA) 5. '12 Babe Adams (BRN) Sutton is always solid, and Brown is usually solid. Sting can usually give a good performance, although he was young in '66, and so will be a bit inconsistent. Whitey Ford was good in '64, but was 35, and only had one good year afterwards. Babe Adams shouldn't really be your number 2 guy. SP3 1. '06 Roy Halladay (NEA) 2. '98 Curt Schilling (FIN) 3. '72 Bob Gibson (HAR) 4. '78 Mike Torrez (BRN) 5. '64 Bob Veale (CLO) Halladay is up and down in the Super-League, but so is everyone else in this group. Schilling is a solid #3 starter in the Super-League, though he's had a few down seasons. '72 Bob Gibson is BOB GIBSON! But he's also 36 years old, and Mogul seems a lot more interested in that last bit. Mike Torrez is best known now for giving up the home run to Bucky Dent in the 1978 tie-breaker between the Red Sox and Yankees as well as destroying Dickie Thon's career. He was a decent pitcher, though. Bob Veale...probably won't work out. SP4 1. '12 Stephen Strasburg (CLO) 2. '95 David Cone (HAR) 3. '97 Bret Saberhagen (NEA) 4. '21 Carl Mays (FIN) 5. '12 Howie Camnitz (BRN) I believe in Stras! SP5 1. '84 Rick Sutcliffe (NEA) 2. '12 Gio Gonzalez (CLO) 3. '06 Jake Peavy (FIN) 4. '95 Andy Pettitte (HAR) 5. '12 Claude Hendrix (BRN) I don't like any of these guys, but Sutcliffe is probably the best of the bunch. Gio hasn't really had a long enough track record for Mogul to give him a good rating. Peavy will be okay. Just okay. Young Pettitte is going to get killed in the Super-League. Hendrix was probably a good person in real life. Closer/Bullpen 1. '95 Mariano Rivera/'72 Sparky Lyle/'95 John Wetteland (HAR) 2. '70 Rollie Fingers/'06 Trevor Hoffman/'06 Scott Linebrink (FIN) 3. '96 Robb Nen/'97 Butch Henry/'97 Tom Gordon (NEA) 4. '11 Chris Sale/'11 Sergio Santos/'04 B.J. Ryan (CLO) 5. '06 Francisco Rodriguez/'78 Bill Campbell/'78 Dennis Eckersley (BRN) The Whalers have a good-looking bullpen with three closer-quality relievers at the top. The Phoenixes have Fingers, which is good, and old Hoffman, which is okay, and Linebrink...and it gets worse from there. The Arguments are going to put their fate in the hands of Tom Gordon. That is not a good thing. I don't know how Chris Sale will be rated by Mogul. And any bullpen that puts K-Rod as their closer, in this day and age, deserves to be ranked last.
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 Your 1995 Dubai Dervishes are back. Things have changed a bit, shortstop got a big upgrade this season, and subsequently the pitching got remixed. Fisk left to find a pitcher, and brough back Noodles and a bullpen piece. It could have been worse. And now we've got a slavic man from the Carribean in our outfield. The Oranges are no longer too much of a worry, I've got the upper hand. No, this season my rivalry is reserved only for the Rockford Losers. I got my consolation division in SLVII, but this time I'm going to take a real division championship. The Generics may finally play down to their potential and finally perish, but this is the season where the Dervishes establish themselves amongst the Super League elite. pre:1902 Noodles Hahn Cincinnati Reds 1919 Rube Marquard Brooklyn Robins 1919 Zack Wheat Brooklyn Robins 1919 Burleigh Grimes Brooklyn Robins 1931 Willie Kamm Cleveland Indians 1931 Earl Averill Cleveland Indians 1931 Wes Ferrell Cleveland Indians 1931 Mel Harder Cleveland Indians 1941 Bucky Walters Cincinnati Reds 1944 Stan Musial St Louis Cardinals 1957 Hoyt Wilhelm ???? 1966 Bob Gibson St Louis Cardinals 1968 John Hiller Detroit Tigers 1973 Tony Perez Cincinnati Reds 1973 Joe Morgan Cincinnati Reds 1973 Johnny Bench Cincinnati Reds 1973 Dave Concepcion Cincinnati Reds 1973 Tom Hall Cincinnati Reds 1973 Ken Griffey Cincinnati Reds 1973 Gary Nolan Cincinnati Reds 1973 Pedro Borbon Cincinnati Reds 1973 Clay Carroll Cincinnati Reds 1978 Gene Tenace San Diego Padres 1978 Bob Shirley San Diego Padres 1978 Gaylord Perry San Diego Padres 1978 Rollie Fingers San Diego Padres 1978 John D'Acquisto San Diego Padres 1983 Cal Ripken Jr Baltimore Orioles 2006 Vlad Guerrero Los Angeles Angels ???? Buck Leonard Negro Leagues 1. 2B Joe Morgan 2. LF Stan Musial 3. CF Earl Averill 4. 1B Buck Leonard 5. RF Vladimir Guerrero 6. C Johnny Bench 7. SS Cal Ripken 8. 3B Tony Perez Bench: C Gene Tenace 3B Willie Kamm OF Ken Griffey Sr OF Zach Wheat IF Dave Concepcion Pitching: SP1 Bob Gibson SP2 Noodles Hahn SP3 Burleigh Grimes SP4 Gaylord Perry SP5 Wes Ferrell CL Rollie Fingers SU Hoyt Wilhem SR Tom Hall SR John Hiller MR Pedro Borbon MR Clay Carroll LR Mel Harder Minors: RHP John D'Acquisto LHP Rube Marquard RHP Bob Shirley RHP Bucky Walters RHP Gary Nolan I like what our stadium did for power, so we'll stick with last seasons' dimensions. Sliders... Using the Hit and Run -1 Using Sacrifice Bunts -4 Using Squeeze Plays -4 Going for extra bases +1 Trying to steal bases +1 Aggressively tagging up on fly outs +1 Pitching out to batters to try and prevent stolen bases +2 Issuing intentional walks -4 Pitching around good hitters -3 Bringing the infield in to guard against bunts +1 Guarding the lines +2 Making cutoff throws +2 Bringing in pinch hitters -1 Bringing in pinch runners -2 Bringing in defensive replacements +2 Starting pitchers on short rest +1 Letting your pitchers try and pitch through trouble 0 Letting your pitchers rack up high pitch counts +2 Beet fucked around with this message at 04:03 on Dec 13, 2012 |
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My version of your preview for the Whalers was more realistic, but it included Bettman actually raping a corpse and ingesting its entrails. Yours wins because it can be shown on TV, but we all lose anyway.
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oldskool posted:Naturally I don't have archives so I can't check the old threads for more detailed information, but from what I had saved the last time I saved my roster, what I could find in this thread & what I remember this is what I've got: Since I'm such a nice person, I found years for a couple of the guys in the old thread. Griffey is 1990 Staub is 1976 Coveleski is 1912 Matthews is 1968 Eckersley is 1984 Petrocelli is 1967 Falkenberg is 1905 Lajoie is 1905 Collins is 1926 Antonelli is 1948 Martinez is 1994 Clemens is 1986 I have absolutely no idea about Wright, Ellis, or Brown, though.
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mentholmoose posted:Since I'm such a nice person, I found years for a couple of the guys in the old thread. Thanks! Edited into my post above. Ellis & Brown were my most recent draft picks, IIRC. Brown was mid-90s and I want to say Ellis was 1970 now that I really think about it.
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Aha, I found the draft posts. Wright is 1942, Brown is 1997, and Ellis is 1972.
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Kevin Brown should be the 1997 version. I acquired him from South Bolton when I traded 93 McDowell during SLVI. I then flipped Brown and 04 Cliff Lee (who's apparently found his way to the Coburns) and probably one other throw in to the Bronies in an auction held that season for Satchel Paige.
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The Sense-Shattering, Mind-Bending, Out of Control Super-League VIII Preview: Senor Goodtimes Division Ah, Jose, every time is a good time when you're around. Anyway, for the first seven seasons, there was but one constant in the Senor Goodtimes Division: The Bobbleheads. But now, after winning two straight Super-League titles, the Bobbleheads have been sent to their eternal reward by the Macho Men, and now it is time for a new champion to rise. Who will it be? (Hint: Probably the Landers)  I feel as though your team has some serious holes in its lineup that might destroy your team. You're going to need to address them at some point. Soon.  The Gumshoes are back, baby! I knew they could do it! Well, I didn't know, and if I had been wrong, I would have hosed over the league, but, hey, it all worked out! And they got a new award to boot! I'll...uh...make a better version of it eventually.  The Landers had a...quirky offseason. But, as much as some of their moves may have been head-scratchers (Maddux for Tejada?) Let's not forget that a) they did win 100 games last season and b) the first trade they made after the season was to acquire Josh Gibson. If we're all being honest with each other, they're the favorites by a country mile.  How the gently caress did the Mashers become such a solid team? It almost makes me feel bad about the 700 jokes I will make about them being from the South. Almost.  With a name like Failures, I predict nothing but good things for this team! The Failures, in a bold experiment, have apparently decided to see what happens when you put bad fielders at every position. I guess they're working under the theory that if they make their defense bad enough, it'll collapse into some sort of singularity from which the other team will be unable to escape. It's an interesting choice.  blakelmenakle's replacement for his Bobbleheads, and, in many ways, they're the opposite of the Bobbleheads. The old Bobbleheads used to hit the gently caress out of the ball and hope that their pitching would be just good enough to keep them alive. On the other hand, the Biosparks are going to need their pitching to be outstanding just to make it through. At least it will be a new experience for him! Positional Breakdown Catcher 1. '?? Josh Gibson (LUN) 2. '53 Yogi Berra/'32 Ernie Lombardi (PHF) 3. '70 Joe Torre (NOM) 4. '78 Brian Downing (LOM) 5. '86 Mickey Tettleton (CUB) 6. '30 Rick Ferrell (SAT) Gibson is the best catcher ever. There's simply no one better. Berra and Lombardi are going to a good platoon, or at least should be. Joe Torre isn't much of a defender, but he does have a nice bat. Brian Downing is a loving hero. Mickey Tettleton is one of those guys that hits .230, but with a lot of walks and about 15-20 home runs. Not a great defender, though. Rick Ferrell can't hit. First Baseman 1. '15 Babe Ruth (SAT) 2. '98 Jeff Bagwell (NOM) 3. '87 Eddie Murray (LOM) 4. '99 Nomar Garciaparra (LUN) 5. '11 Adrian Gonzalez (PHF) 6. '79 Keith Hernandez (CUB) Babe Ruth isn't a first baseman, but he is Babe Ruth, and that's enough, even if I'm sure blakel will eventually wise up and move him to a position better suited to him. This is Bagwell at the height of his powers, so he should be decent. Eddie Murray isn't exciting, just like in real life, but he should get the job done. Nomar is playing out of position, and he's been erratic in the Super-League. Given that the Red Sox ditched A-Gon in the second season of his huge contract, I don't know that I really trust him. Keith Hernandez is best known today for being on Seinfeld, but he was a slick-fielding, doubles-hitting first baseman before that. Second Baseman 1. '11 Eddie Collins (LUN) 2. '78 Bobby Grich (LOM) 3. '98 Craig Biggio (NOM) 4. '97 Roberto Alomar (CUB) 5. '11 Dustin Pedroia (PHF) 6. '50 Nellie Fox (SAT) Collins is an awesome player, even if his...retrogressive politics ended up costing the Red Sox for decades. Bobby Grich is one of the more underrated players of all-time, and was decent for the Gumshoes last season. I want Biggio to be good for once, so I'm putting him up here to inspire him. Roberto Alomar should be okay, but his numbers won't jump out at you. Pedroia might be good, but he hasn't been great in the past. Fox cannot really hit. Third Baseman 1. '79 George Brett (LUN) 2. '95 Chipper Jones (LOM) 3. '53 Al Rosen (SAT) 4. '85 Paul Molitor (PHF) 5. '04 Chipper Jones (CUB) 6. '96 Matt Williams (NOM) All good hitters with fatal flaws. Brett, Jones and Molitor aren't good fielders. Rosen has injury concerns. And poor Matt Williams couldn't draw a walk if the lives of 50 orphans trapped on a bus depended on it. That was a dark day in Matt Williams' life. Shortstop 1. '01 Alex Rodriguez (NOM) 2. '95 Barry Larkin (LOM) 3. '04 Miguel Tejada (LUN) 4. '51 Granny Hamner (CUB) 5. '04 Jimmy Rollins (PHF) 6. '15 Dave Bancroft (SAT) A-Rod is great, and he's at his PED-using best in '01. Larkin is helpful, but he sure won't look like it. I have the feeling that Tejada is getting sent right back to the Commies as the earliest opportunity. Hamner and Rollins are two Phillies, about fifty years apart, who spread misery in the city of Brotherly Love. Bancroft will kill the Biosparks, blakel should have taken Jeter. Left Fielder 1. '85 Rickey Henderson (LOM) 2. '85 Tim Raines (LUN) 3. '30 Goose Goslin (SAT) 4. '62 Willie McCovey (PHF) 5. '51 Larry Doby (NOM) 6. '51 Delmer Ennis (CUB) Rickey and Rock are the two best leadoff men of all-time, and in that order. Goslin is better than McCovey if only because McCovey IS NOT A LEFT FIELDER! Doby is probably not going to work. As for the Smokers, they are trusted left field to a man named "Delmer". Outstanding. Center Fielder 1. '54 Willie Mays (LOM) 2. '62 Willie Mays (CUB) 3. '38 Joe DiMaggio (LUN) 4. '80 Rickey Henderson (PHF) 5. '98 Bernie Willians (NOM) 6. '53 Larry Doby (SAT) Is Mays better than DiMaggio? Absolutely! No further debate necessary! Rickey Henderson isn't really a center fielder, but he does have the range for it, if not quite the instincts. Bernie Williams can play center field...but can he play guitar at the same time. Doby may make you sad. Right Fielder 1. '65 Hank Aaron (LUN) 2. '05 Lance Berkman (PHF) 3. '97 Larry Walker (NOM) 4. '78 Don Baylor (LOM) 5. '51 Richie Ashburn (CUB) 6. '15 Gavvy Cravath (SAT) Hank Aaron is a homer-drivin' man. Berkman has usually been good even if he isn't really much of a fielder. Walker is actually a good fielder, but he won't get to play in Coors. Don Baylor was the manager for the Cubs around the turn of the millennium and I will never forgive. A lot of Ashburn's value is wasted by putting him in right instead of center. Cravath is a deadball power hitter. That will not work out well. Designated Hitter 1. '?? Sadaharu Oh (LOM) 2. '04 Manny Ramirez (LUN) 3. '70 Dick Allen (NOM) 4. '11 David Ortiz (PHF) 5. '30 Heinie Manush (SAT) 6. '86 David Kingman (CUB) I'm bullish on Oh, and since I'll be making him for this game, that's probably a pretty good sign for the Gumshoes. Ramirez, Allen, and Ortiz are all fine hitters who should do well. I'm not sure what Manush is going to give the Biosparks, but I'm not incredibly optimistic about it. All you need to know about Kingman is that he hit 35 home runs in '86, in a tough run environment, and then had to retire because no one wanted to sign him for the next season. Bench 1. '92 Ozzie Smith/'11 Kevin Youkilis/'92 Ray Lankford/'05 Craig Biggio (PHF) 2. '91 Don Slaught/'54 Hank Thompson/'89 Lenny Dykstra/'89 John Kruk/'84 Harold Baines (LOM) 3. '98 Brad Ausmus/'98 Moises Alou/'98 Carl Everett/'64 Jim Fregosi/'10 Chone Figgins (NOM) 4. '55 Ed Bailey/'48 Eddie Joost/'55 Johnny Temple/'80 Dwayne Murphy/'48 Elmer Valo (LUN) 5. '50 Sherm Lollar/'51 Willie Jones/'86 Jose Canseco/'04 J.D. Drew/'86 Alfredo Griffin (CUB) 6. '50 Phil Masi/'15 Fred Luderus/'53 Bobby Avila/'30 Red Kress/'04 Corey Hart (SAT) All of the Failures' bench guys are plausible starters, which is nice. The Detective Don Slaught leads a group of solid backups for the Gumshoes. The Mashers have some interesting pieces that are okay as stopgaps, but not much more. I like Bailey, Joost and Murphy, but I absolutely do not trust Temple or Valo. The only interesting thing about the Smokers' bench is trying to figure whether Shadow gamer will turn to Canseco or Drew when Delmer Ennis implodes. The Biosparks' bench is an offense to god. SP1 1. '99 Pedro Martinez (LUN) 2. '15 Pete Alexander (SAT) 3. '78 Nolan Ryan (LOM) 4. '98 Randy Johnson (NOM) 5. '51 Robin Roberts (CUB) 6. '19 Hippo Vaughn (PHF) A lot of different types of pitchers here. Martinez has the best stuff, probably, but isn't particularly durable. Alexander won't get many strikeouts, but won't walk anybody and will keep the ball in the park. Johnson and Ryan are both pure power pitchers. Robin Roberts is a guy who will take a strikeout if he can get it, but won't go out of his way to get one. Home runs are the biggest concern for him. Vaughn isn't really in the same class. SP2 1. '91 Greg Maddux (SAT) 2. '85 Roger Clemens (LUN) 3. '70 Bob Gibson (NOM) 4. '11 Eddie Plank (LOM) 5. '05 Roger Clemens (PHF) 6. '05 Andy Pettitte (CUB) Top three are pretty even, but Maddux is closest to his peak, so I'll give him the nod. Plank is helpful, though he needs a decent defense behind him to reach his full potential. Clemens is really old in '05, and is one injury away from his arm blowing out. Pettitte is an old left-hander without a ton of power left. That's not going to end well. SP3 1. '19 Pete Alexander (PHF) 2. '79 Don Sutton (LUN) 3. '70 Steve Carlton (NOM) 4. '15 Eppa Rixey (SAT) 5. '34 Mel Harder (CUB) 6. '95 Jose Rijo (LOM) Alexander should be the ace of the Failures. Sutton is awesomely reliable, just like in real life. Steve Carlton, like the other dozen Steve Carlton's floating around, is a solid part of a good rotation. Who the gently caress names their kid "Eppa"? Harder had a great year in Super-League I, but that was a long time ago. Jose Rijo's career was about to come to a sudden end in 1995, and that can't bode well. SP4 1. '10 Felix Hernandez (NOM) 2. '53 Early Wynn (SAT) 3. '77 Rick Reuschel (LUN) 4. '76 Jim Kaat (CUB) 5. '42 The Thornton Lee (LOM) 6. '05 Roy Oswalt (PHF) Felix is king. Wynn and Reuschel will eat innings by the barrelful. Kaat is an okay back-of-the-rotation starter in the Super-League. The Thornton Lee is always entertaining. As for Roy Oswalt, well, sometimes he's good, sometimes he's not. But you won't know until it's too late. SP5 1. '80 J.R. Richard (LUN) 2. '64 Dean Chance (NOM) 3. '77 Rick Reuschel (LOM) 4. '53 Bob Feller (SAT) 5. '78 John Candelaria (PHF) 6. '04 Mike Hampton (CUB) Richard and Chance are two great power pitchers whose careers got cut short due to non-baseball related issues. Reuschel is still an eating-inner. Feller's arm was about gone by 1953. The Candyman can...assuming you set your expectations appropriately low. Relying on Mike Hampton? That's not a good idea no matter who you are or where you're from. Closer/Bullpen 1. '99 Mariano Rivera/'85 Tom Henke/'06 Joe Nathan (LUN) 2. '11 Jonathan Papelbon/'71 Rollie Fingers/'92 Lee Smith (PHF) 3. '79 Goose Gossage/'10 Neftali Feliz/'04 Mike Adams (SAT) 4. '98 Billy Wagner/'09 Jason Motte/'10 Cliff Lee (NOM) 5. '04 John Smoltz/'51 Jim Konstanty/'72 Lindy McDaniel (CUB) 6. '54 Hoyt Wilhelm/'89 Steve Bedrosian/'95 Mike Jackson (LOM) Top two bullpens have three closers each. That's pretty drat good. The Biosparks have Gossage, who I trust, but it drops off pretty quickly after that. The Mashers' bullpen is mainly starters, which Mogul doesn't like very much. I don't trust Jim Konstanty, nor do I intend to start now. The Gumshoes' bullpen, despite their stirring performance in the challenge series against the Woodchucks, isn't exactly good. Still, they might be good enough.
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So at some point I completely lost track of my roster. I think this might be it. Edit: Super Draft Mystery Envelope with instructions as follows: "Do not open until post-season" CSV Roster for Smasher Convince # PlayerID,Year,Team,Salary,Years,First Name,Last Name # Starting Pitchers johnswa01,1922 mathech01,1902 martipe02,2004 carltst01,1978 schilcu01,2000,CLE,,,Curt,Schilling collira01,1911,CLE,,,Ray,Collins tananfr01,1983 # Bullpen soriajo01,2009,CLE,,,Joakim,Soria reardje01,1989 cokeph01,2011,CLE,,,Coke,Phil sasakka01,2003 montgje01,1989 # Infield pujolal01,2009 hornsro01,1930,CLE,,,Rogers,Hornsby sandbry01,1984 santoro01,1964 seweljo01,1924 yountro01,1982 hartnga01,1930,CLE,,,Gabby,Hartnett rodriiv01,2001 # Outfield speaktr01,1911,CLE,,,Tris,Speaker walkela01,1997 beltrca01,2008 johnsbo01,1935 willibi01,1964 # DH ottme01,1946 # Minors musiast01,1959 kimby01,2003,CLE,,,Byung-Hyun,Kim stephri01,1930,CLE,,,Riggs,Stephenson yountro01,1990 powelbo01,1972 averyst01,1995,CLE,,,Steve,Avery lillyte01,2009 bellhma01,2003 I want a summary of what you're playing at each position for comparisons! Position players vs Righties / Lefties C: Hartnett '30 / IRod 2001 1B: Pujols '09 2B: Hornsby '30 / Sandberg '84 - Hornsby is starting at DH vs Lefties 3B: All Santo '64 all the time SS: Sewell 1924 / Yount 1982 LF: Billy Williams '64 / Bob Johnson '35 CF: Tris Speaker 1911 RF: Larry Walker '97 / Beltran 2008 DH: Ott 1946 / Hornsby '30 <-- SP: Big Six SP: Big Train SP: Frank Tanana SP: Carlton SP: Ray Collins - Schilling is in LR, wanna see how these guys do. Pen: CL: Soria Dudes: Reardon, Kazuhiro, Montgomery, Phil Coke Team Name: Ryleh Cultists Team Logo (150x150 preferred): 128 x 128:  Credit to Rich D per CC license at: http://www.softicons.com/free-icons/object-icons/richs-misc-icons-by-rich-d/cthulhu-icon Team Song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZAoLnn4LF0 Super League IX Roster: Starting Pitching Starting Pitcher 1: Mathewson, Christy "Big Six" 20 (1901 New York Giants via 2nd Dervishes) Starting Pitcher 2: Johnson, Walter "Big Train" 34 (1922 Senators via Senadores Starting Pitcher 3: Tanana, Frank (1983, someone) Starting Pitcher 4: Carlton, Steve 33 (1978 Philadelphia Phillies) Starting Pitcher 5: Collins, Ray (Boston Red Sox, 1911) Bullpen Closer: Soria, Joakim 24 (2009 Kansas City Royals) Setup: Sasaki, Kazuhiro (2001) Short Relief: Reardon, Jeff (1989 Twins CBX) Short Relief: Coke, Phil 28 (2002 Detroit Tigers? Super auction from the bronies) Middle Relief: Montgomery, Jeff (1989 Kansas City Royals) / Consider using Kim Byung Hung here. Long Relief: Schilling, Curtis "Curt" 33 (2000 (sic) Arizona Diamond-Backs) Position Players vs Right Handed Pitchers C. Hartnett, Gabby 29 (1930 Chicago Cubs) 1B. Pujols, Albert 29 (2009 Cardinals) 2B. Hornsby, Rodgers "Rajah" 33 (1930 Chicago Cubs) 3B. Santo, Ron 24 1964 (Cubs, via Electrics, Super Draft) SS. Sewell, Joe (1924 Indians via Tornadoes) LF. Williams, Billy 26 1964 (Cubs, via Electrics Super Draft) CF. Tris, Speaker "Grey Eagle" 23 (1911 Boston Red Sox) RF. Walker, Larry 30 (1997 Colorado Rockies) DH. Ott, Mel 1946 NYGs (Via Trade) Bench vs Right Handed Pitchers Bench 1. Johnson, Bob (1935 Athletics returning via Vice City Goose Eggs) Bench 2. Sandberg, Ryne "Ryno" 24 (1984 Chicago Cubs) Bench 3. Beltran, Carlos (2008 Mets, Trade) Bench 4. Rodríguez, Iván "Pudge" 29 (2001 Texas Rangers) Bench 5. Yount, Robin (1982 via EC Draft Trade) Batting Order vs Right Handed Pitchers 1 Tris, Speaker 23 (1911 Boston Red Sox) - Left 2 Hornsby, Rodgers 33 (1930 Chicago Cubs) - Right 3 Walker, Larry 30 (1997 Colorado Rockies) - Left 4 Pujols, Albert 29 (2009 Cardinals) - Right 5 Williams, Billy 26 1964 (Cubs, via Electrics) - Left 6 Hartnett, Gabby 29 (1930 Chicago Cubs) - Right 7 Ott, Mel (1946 NYGs) - Left 8 Santo, Ron 24 1964 (Cubs, via Electrics) - Right 9 Sewell, Luke 27 (1958 Chicago Cubs) - Left Position Players vs Left Handed Pitchers C. Rodríguez, Iván "Pudge" 29 (2001 Texas Rangers) 1B. Pujols, Albert 29 (2009 Cardinals) 2B. Sandberg, Ryne "Ryno" 24 (1984 Chicago Cubs) 3B. Santo, Ron 24 1964 (Cubs, via Electrics, Super Draft) SS. Yount, Robin (1982 Brewers) LF. Johnson, Bob (1935 Athletics returning via Vice City Goose Eggs) CF. Tris, Speaker "Grey Eagle" 23 (1911 Boston Red Sox) RF. Beltran, Carlos (2008 Mets, Trade) DH. Hornsby, Rodgers "Rajah" 33 (1930 Chicago Cubs) Bench vs Left Handed Pitchers Bench 1. Hartnett, Gabby 29 (1930 Chicago Cubs) Bench 2. Walker, Larry 30 (1997 Colorado Rockies) Bench 3. Williams, Billy 26 1964 (Cubs, via Electrics Super Draft) Bench 4. Ott, Mel (1946 NYGs) Bench 5. Sewell, Joe (1924 Indians via Tornadoes) Batting Order vs Left Handed Pitchers 1 Tris, Speaker 23 (1911 Boston Red Sox) - Left 2 Hornsby, Rodgers 33 (1930 Chicago Cubs) - Right 3 Kiki, Cuyler "Shirley" 31 (1930 Chicago Cubs) 4 Pujols, Albert 29 (2009 Cardinals) - Right 5 Santo, Ron 24 1964 (Cubs, via Electrics) - Right 6 Riggs, Stephenson (LF) 32 (1930 Chicago Cubs) 7 Sandberg, Ryne "Ryno" 24 (1984 Chicago Cubs) - Right 8 Banks, Ernie 27 (1958 Chicago Cubs) - Right 9 Rodríguez, Iván "Pudge" 29 (2001 Texas Rangers) Minors: Musial, Stan "The Man" 38 (1959 Cardinals) Yount, Robin (1990 Brewers via Juggernauts) Stephenson, Riggs (1930 Chicago Cubs) Martinez, Pedro 32 (2004 Boston Red Sox) Ted Lilly Mark Bellhorn Byung-Hyun Kim (2003 Arizona Diamond Backs) Guys I had but I have no idea what the gently caress happened to them Powell, Boog 1986 # Might actually be from 1972! This is yet to be determined. Avery, Steve 1995 Stadium Home City: Dunwich, Massechuetts (use your pick of Salem or Boston) Structure: Convertible Surface: Artificial Turf Fan Base: Fanatic Playing Field: Infield Quality: Good Infield Grass: High Visibility: Average Foul Ground: Large Dimensions: Left Field: 340 Left Centre Field: 375 Centre Field: 410 Right Centre: 375 Right Field: 340 Strategies Hit and Run: -1 Sacrifice Bunt: -4 Squeeze Play: -2 Trying for extra bases: -3 Stealing Bases: -3 Aggressively Tagging Up: -1 Pitch Outs (to prevent stolen bases): -3 Giving Intentional Walks: -3 Pitching Around Good Hitters: +2 Bringing the Infield In: 0 Guarding the Lines: 0 Making Cutoff Throws: 0 Bringing in Pinch Hitters: +3 Bringing in Pinch Runners: 0 Bringing in Defensive Replacements: +3 Starting Pitchers on Short Rest: 0 Letting pitchers pitch throw trouble: +1 Letting Pitchers rack up high pitch counts: +1 Teams Selected 1930 Chicago Cubs 4 1935 Phillie As 1 1911 Red Sox? 2 1958 Cubs 1 2003 Arizona Dbacks 2 1986 KCR 2009 1 Cthulhu Dreams fucked around with this message at 02:30 on Jan 8, 2013 |
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In a sense, this "song" is incredibly appropriate for your team theme.
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Mornacale posted:In a sense, this "song" is incredibly appropriate for your team theme. Ah cock, it used to work. New song! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZAoLnn4LF0 Also, I laughed. I'm open to renaming the team btw thought that will annoy Gingemidget. Maybe I should raffle off Ted Lilly for best name suggestion! Cthulhu Dreams fucked around with this message at 08:06 on Dec 13, 2012 |
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Wooooo third best in the division wooooo
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 e: Updated for whiner babies who demand logic and consistency. Roster! code:#1 Hughes #2 Koufax #3 McGinnity #4 Grove #5 Coveleski CL Gordon SU Montgomery SR Labine SR Davis MR Drysdale LR Uhle Bresnahan is Grove's personal catcher vs. Lefties no DH LF Kelley 2B Stephenson 3B Cronin RF Snider C Campanella SS Banks 1B Hodges CF Speaker vs. Righties no DH 3B McGraw LF Hamilton 1B Kelley RF Snider CF Speaker C Campanella SS Cronin 2B Stephenson Stadium: Progressive Field Sliders: Hit and Run: +2 Sacrifice Bunt: -4 Squeeze Play: -4 Trying for extra bases: +2 Stealing Bases: +2 Aggressively Tagging Up: -1 Pitch Outs (to prevent stolen bases): +1 Giving Intentional Walks: -3 Pitching Around Good Hitters: +1 Bringing the Infield In: 0 Guarding the Lines: 0 Making Cutoff Throws: +2 Bringing in Pinch Hitters: +1 Bringing in Pinch Runners: +1 Bringing in Defensive Replacements: +1 Starting Pitchers on Short Rest: -3 Letting pitchers pitch through trouble: -2 Letting Pitchers rack up high pitch counts: +1 UltimoDragonQuest fucked around with this message at 09:24 on Dec 13, 2012 |
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Smasher Dynamo posted:
Quoting this because it is perfect in every way.
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mks5000 posted:Quoting this because it is perfect in every way. What this story shows us is that you need to change the team's name to the Carolina Hurricanes as quickly as possible -- you'll win a title in no time!
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SmasherDynamo, as a request, please list my 1986 version of Jesse Orosco before the 1981 version on my roster file. Thanks. e: mentholmoose, hop on IRC sometime or give me another way to talk trade with you, I think we are a good match. Mornacale fucked around with this message at 10:01 on Dec 13, 2012 |
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Man, I can't wait to see how poorly this season goes.Mornacale posted:e: mentholmoose, hop on IRC sometime or give me another way to talk trade with you, I think we are a good match. I think I'm going to wait on trading until a couple months into the season and I see just how poorly my team is doing.
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...I just started to feel good about my team...
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 Roster: LF Fred Clarke* (1903) 2B Frankie Frisch# (1924) SS Honus Wagner (1903) 1B Nomar Garciaparra (2007) RF Ross Youngs* (1924) CF Hack Wilson (1924) C Russell Martin (2007) SS Rafael Furcal# (2007) SP Deacon Phillippe (1903) SP Sam Leever (1903) SP Art Nehf* (1924) CL Takashi Saito (2007) RP Jonathan Broxton (2007) RP Hong-Chih Kuo* (2007) RP Derek Lowe (2007) RP Virgil Barnes (1924) 3B Darrell Evans* (2002 Red Sox) LF Cliff Floyd (1973 Braves) 1B Mark McGwire (1990 A's) C Brian McCann (2010 Braves) CF Ken Griffey Jr. (2006 Reds) SP Cy Falkenberg (1908) RP Ugueth Urbina (2003) 2B Billy Herman (1934) SP Jack Scott (1924 Giants) SP Jason Schmidt (2007 Dodgers) SP Chad Billingsley (2007 Dodgers) SP Brad Penny (2007 Dodgers) SP Catfish Hunter (1971) Lineup: vs. RHP: 1. 2B Frankie Frisch 2. LF Fred Clarke 3. SS Honus Wagner 4. DH Barry Bonds 5. 1B Mark McGwire 6. CF Ken Griffey Jr. 7. 3B Darrell Evans 8. RF Ross Youngs 9. C Brian McCann vs. LHP: 1. SS Frankie Frisch 2. 2B Billy Herman 3. RF Honus Wagner 4. DH Barry Bonds 5. 1B Mark McGwire 6. LF Fred Clarke 7. 3B Darrell Evans 8. CF Hack Wilson 9. C Russell Martin Bench: 2B Billy Herman SS Rafael Furcal# C Russell Martin CF Hack Wilson 1B George Kelly Minors: Dwight Evans Nomar Garciaparra Cliff Floyd Rotation: SP Deacon Phillippe (1903) SP Sam Leever (1903) SP Catfish Hunter (1971) SP Cy Falkenberg (1908) SP Art Nehf* (1924) Bullpen: CL Takashi Saito (2007) SU Jonathan Broxton (2007) SR Hong-Chih Kuo* (2007) SR Ugueth Urbina (2003) MR Virgil Barnes (1924) LR Derek Lowe (2007) Minors: SP Jack Scott (1924) SP Chad Billingsley (2007) SP Brad Penny (2007) SP Jason Schmidt (2007) Sliders: Pitching Around Good Hitters: +1 Starting Pitchers on Short Rest: -1 Letting Pitchers rack up high pitch counts: -1
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The Super-League will start soon enough, but I really wouldn't be doing my job if I didn't undermine your confidence before the league started, would I? The 100% Organic, 2 Legit 2 Quit Super-League VIII Preview: Norris-Smythe Division  It's time for some radical honesty. The Cultists are the heavy, heavy favorites in this division, with the W's and Mathematicians each having an outside chance of winning this division. It's possible I could be wrong about this, that Matty and Big Train won't be able to replicate the successes they had last year, and it's not impossible that the Suicides or Air Raids could be better than I think, but, well, if you were laying money down on the Norris-Smythe Division, the Cultists would probably be something like 11:10 odds.  The Mathematicians somehow survived last season, even if I'm not exactly clear on how, and now have won the vacant Television Title. Maybe I have vastly underestimated them.  The Cultists won this division in a walk last year, and have spent the past offseason trying to perfect their roster, even though there's really not a lot more to be done. To be honest, I'm hoping that the Cultists win this division, because otherwise CthulhuDreams is going to lose whatever's left of his mind.  Hey, at least you aren't starting Inge at 3B anymore! That's progress!  Everyone likes the W's and ForeverBWFC...well, except Koop, I guess, but you never know what you're going to get with this team. Are they the unstoppable force they were in Super-Leagues II, III, IV and VII? Or are they the profound disappointment they were in Super-Leagues V and VI? It's hard to say, although, if I had to guess, I'd say winning around 90 games seems like the most probably outcome.  I like about half of the players on the Air Raids roster, but the other half makes me want to smash my head against the wall until I give myself a concussion so I can't remember why I'm so loving angry. That's not exactly the response you want to inspire in people looking at your roster. Catcher 1. '30 Gabby Hartnett/'01 Ivan Rodriguez (RYL) 2. '11 Buster Posey (OXB) 3. '82 Ted Simmons (SLA) 4. '11 Miguel Montero (SPO) 5. '06 Ivan Rodriguez (SSS) I like the Hartnett part of the Cultists' platoon, but I'm not so thrilled about the I-Rod part. Posey and Simmons both sucked in Super-League VII, but Posey probably has more upside. Montero is a fringe-average player in the Super-League, which isn't the worst thing in the world. Old I-Rod is not someone you should be starting at catcher, not even if Ivan Rodriguez, in gearing up for his upcoming Hall of Fame candidacy, is starting a new social media campaign whereby Super-League owners are paid to prominently feature Rodriguez in their lineups, which, really, is the only explanation for this. First Baseman 1. '09 Albert Pujols (RYL) 2. '12 Albert Pujols (SPO) 3. '07 Joey Votto/'82 Jack Clark (OXB) 4. '99 John Olerud (SLA) 5. '99 Mike Sweeney (SSS) Younger Pujols beats older Pujols. I like the Votto/Clark platoon, and it should be solid. John Olerud is basically a poor man's Mark Grace, which isn't the worst foundation for a team, as the last two Super-Leagues have shown. Mike Sweeney is not an elite slugger in the Super-League. Second Baseman 1. '75 Joe Morgan (OXB) 2. '30 Rogers Hornsby/'84 Ryne Sandberg (RYL) 3. '86 Lou Whitaker (SLA) 4. '00 Jeff Kent (SPO) 5. '06 Placido Polanco (SSS) Morgan is the class of the division by a lot, even if he will haunt Revenant Threshold with a .260 BA. The Cultists' platoon is basically CthulhuDreams playing chicken with Rogers Hornsby's knees, and that's not the best way to run a team. Whitaker had a monster season in Super-League VII, and while he won't replicate that, he should be good this year. Jeff Kent is a mediocre fielder, and that counts against him. Placido Polanco is probably a decent human being. Third Baseman 1. '77 George Brett (SPO) 2. '64 Ron Santo (RYL) 3. '04 Scott Rolen (SLA) 4. '55 Eddie Yost (SSS) 5. '97 Wade Boggs/'83 Buddy Bell (OXB) To be honest, I think Santo's glove and power make him a better player in the Super-League than Brett, but I feel like most of you wouldn't follow me down that rabbit hole, so I listed Brett first. Scott Rolen has power and the best glove of his era. Eddie Yost is the Walking Man, and is much better than Brandon Inge. The Boggs/Bell platoon is one of the more bizarre things I've ever seen, but I'm sure that Revenant Threshold will be sane enough to put Panda Sandoval at the hot corner before too long. Shortstop 1. '40 Arky Vaughan (OXB) 2. '91 Cal Ripken (SSS) 3. '24 Joe Sewell/'82 Robin Yount (RYL) 4. '09 Asdrubal Cabrera (SLA) 5. '68 Dick McAuliffe (SPO) You know who else thinks Vaughan is better than Cal Ripken? Bill loving James. Why? Because Ripken never drew a ton of walks while Arky finished with a career OBP of .406. Someday, CthulhuDreams will realize that replacing Banks with the Sewell/Yount combo was a misstep, and I expect a formal apology when he does. Cabrera is at least helpful on defense, even if he's not elite on offense. Dick McAuliffe is just happy to be here. Left Fielder 1. '39 Ted Williams (SSS) 2. '29 Al Simmons (SLA) 3. '64 Billy Williams/'35 Bob Johnson (RYL) 4. '11 Zack Wheat (OXB) 5. '11 Justin Upton (SPO) Ah, Ted Williams, forever bound to damned teams as some sort of punishment for the sins he committed when he was living. Al Simmons is one of a number of great Polish corner outfielders, a fact I am obligated to honor every Pulaski Day. Zack Wheat is a corner outfielder with no power, which I don't like. Justin Upton is better than his brother, at least. Center Fielder 1. '61 Duke Snider (SLA) 2. '11 Tris Speaker (RYL) 3. '12 Mike Trout (SPO) 4. '99 Carlos Beltran (SSS) 5. '40 Bob Elliott (OXB) Snider hits ten million, billion home runs every year. That gets him a lot of credit in my book. Speaker is solid. Trout has had one good year, which means I'm going to have to guess on how good he really is. Beltran is about as young as Trout, but didn't have a record-setting year. Elliott was known as "Mr. Team", and helped lead Boston to a World Series...except it was the Boston Braves, so no one remembers him. Right Fielder 1. '18 Babe Ruth (SSS) 2. '26 Babe Ruth/'85 Lloyd Moseby (SLA) 3. '00 Barry Bonds (SPO) 4. '97 Larry Walker/'08 Carlos Beltran (RYL) 5. '36 Chuck Klein (OXB) I'll take pure Ruth over the W's part-time Ruth, especially since BWFC has cut his Ruth with an inferior compound. Bonds isn't a right fielder. Bonds isn't a right fielder. Bonds isn't a right fielder. Bonds isn't a right fielder. Bonds isn't a right fielder. Bonds isn't a right fielder. Walker/Beltran should be okay, if slightly injury-prone. Klein has usually been decent enough. Designated Hitter 1. '04 Miguel Cabrera/'85 Jack Clark (OXB) 2. '46 Mel Ott/'30 Rogers Hornsby (RYL) 3. '02 Ed Delahanty/'26 Babe Ruth (SLA) 4. '00 Ellis Burks (SPO) 5. '?? ???? ?????? (SSS) Cabrera probably doesn't need a caddy for left-handed pitchers, especially since he's a right-hsnded hitter himself, but Clark probably won't kill you. Ott is old, and is only going to be a starter until Cthulhu has to move Hornsby to DH full-time during the season. Delahanty was an exciting man who died in an exciting way. Ellis Burks can't really be your DH, can he? Bench 1. Platoon Partners! (RYL) 2. '93 Darren Daulton/'03 Mark Bellhorn/'03 Mark Grace/'85 Howard Johnson (SLA) 3. '11 Carlos Beltran/'98 Ivan Rodriguez/Platoon Partners (OXB) 4. '99 Jeremy Giambi/'99 Joe Randa/'06 Curtis Granderson/'06 Magglio Ordonez (SSS) 5. '11 Gerardo Parra/'12 Mark Trumbo/'12 Torii Hunter/'00 Bobby Estallela (SPO) The Cultists' bench is mainly the other half of their platoons, and those are pretty good players, even if it means he won't have many left-handed pinch-hitters when the other team starts a right-hander. The W's bench has personality, and the ability to draw 10 million walks. I like Beltran, but not a ton else about the Maths' bench. The Suicides' bench is okay, although I expect that one of those players will end up as the team's DH, or moving Williams to the DH slot. The Air Raids have no bench. Anyone who tells you otherwise is a damned liar, and you should punch them in the face just for saying it. That includes you, Manifunk Destiny, you might need to punch yourself. SP1 1. '02 Christy Mathewson (RYL) 2. '51 Whitey Ford (SPO) 3. '93 Jack McDowell (SLA) 4. '11 Tim Lincecum (OXB) 5. '18 Carl Mays (SSS) Big Six is almost always good in the Super-League. Ford is young, but I feel compelled to put him above McDowell and Lincecum. As for the next two, they're both guys who had great seasons their first few years, and then they're arms started to go, although Lincecum did have better stuff in his prime. But, then again McDowell was still at his peak in '93, whereas Lincecum was already going downhill by '11. Carl Mays killed one man and about a half-dozen Super-League teams. SP2 1. '22 Walter Johnson (RYL) 2. '61 Sandy Koufax (SLA) 3. '12 Jered Weaver (SPO) 4. '11 Madison Bumgarner (OXB) 5. '18 Bullet Joe Bush (SSS) Big Train! I know that Koufax is up-and-down, but he's got left-handed power you can't help but love. Weaver didn't get a lot of play last year, because of grinnblade's quirky decisions, but he might be good, as might Bumgarner. Bullet Joe Bush got his name because he once shot a man with a derringer outside a Cincinnati brewery. SP3 1. '13 Pete Alexander (SLA) 2. '12 Zack Greinke (SPO) 3. '83 Frank Tanana (RYL) 4. '18 Dutch Leonard (SSS) 5. '19 Babe Adams (OXB) Alexander routinely saves teams. Greinke really seems like he should be better than he is. By '83, Tanana was a rag-arm starter, but hey, Cthulhu, I'm sure that a soft-tossing lefty will totally work out well for you. Dutch Leonard isn't even the best pitched named "Dutch Leonard". Oh, and he couldn't even win 20 games once in the deadball era, despite playing for the most successful dynasty of his time. SP4 1. '03 Cy Young (SLA) 2. '78 Steve Carlton (RYL) 3. '06 Justin Verlander (SSS) 4. '11 Matt Cain (OXB) 5. '71 Vida Blue (SPO) Cy Young is a good as long as your team has a decent defense, which the W's do. Steve Carlton has been usually okay in the Super-League. Verlander has been less okay. Matt Cain was great last year, but I'm not sure he can duplicate it. Vida Blue brings woe and ruin to whoever put him on their roster. Woe! SP5 1. '12 Jeff Tesreau (SLA) 2. '12 C.J. Wilson (SPO) 3. '11 Josh Beckett (OXB) 4. '11 Ray Collins (RYL) 5. '06 Kenny Rogers (SSS) Tesreau is in the perfect situation for him to succeed. Wilson has been hit or miss in the Super-League, but he has had more good seasons that bad ones. Josh Becektt wants to know if there are any Popeye's restaurants in Milton Keynes. Ray Collins over Pedro Martinez? Cthulhu, sometimes I think you are your own worst enemy. All the pine tar in the universe could save Rogers' rear end. Closer/Bullpen 1. '90 Rob Dibble/'97 Robb Nen/'01 Kazuhiro Sasaki (SLA) 2. '09 Joakim Soria/'89 Jeff Reardon/'11 Phil Coke (RYL) 3. '00 Robb Nen/'11 Brad Ziegler/'11 J.J. Putz (SPO) 4. '11 Sergio Romo/'68 Pat Dobson/'11 Brian Wilson (OXB) 5. '06 Todd Jones/'06 Joel Zumaya/'18 Sad Sam Jones (SSS) Strikeouts are king in the bullpen, and the W's top three has great power. The Cultists' bullpen isn't really good, but it's better than the rest. I don't know how well Ziegler will do in the Super-League, because that trick delivery might not translate well to Mogul stats. The Maths are relying on the Giants' last two closers to keep them afloat, and I'm not sure how well that will work. The Suicides are lucky they aren't a really team, because that bullpen would drive any real fans that would have to suicide.
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Good thing I was aiming for the "worst team in the league" thing, huh  And since I forgot I was in the DH league until you posted that, here we go for another lineup change! Lineups: 1. 1955 Eddie Yost, 3B 2. 1939 Ted Williams, LF 3. 1999 Mike Sweeney, 1B 4. 1918 Babe Ruth, RF 5. 2006 Magglio Ordonez, DH 6. 2006 Placido Polonco, 2B 7. 1999 Carlos Beltran, CF 8. 2006 Ivan Rodriguez, C 9. 1991 Cal Ripken Jr, SS this team can't lose more than 120 games right
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The Dangan Ronpa Gaiden, Heart-Stopping, Euro-Skeptic SLVIII Preview: Vae Victis Division Woe to the defeated. The Vae Victis Division will be a bloody death march. The four teams who comprised the division in Super-League VI, all of whom have survived at least three seasons now, have reconvened to have one final battle. The Coburns, the merger of the Comacheros and Radbourns, owned by veteran owner Warm Sarsaparilla will try and break into the toughest division ever created, as the Florida Dickshots come face to face with their own mortality and the consequences of locating your team in Florida. A lot of history in this division, but, for most of these teams, this is where their stories end.  The Comancheros and Radbourns both imploded but, from the ruins, the newly reformulated Coburns have risen from the grave. If Warm Sarsaparilla can't make this work, it will be the end of him. But, if he wants to survive, he's got a lot of work ahead of him.  They have all the championships but the one that matters. It's time for the Dervishes to take this to the next level, and dethrone the Losers. Death or glory.  Fate has conspired against the Dickshots. Well, me and fate, at any rate. Trapped in a division they aren't prepared for, it will take a miracle for them to make it out of the Vae Victis Division alive, and this particular division has been miracle free since Super-League III.  The Oranges are survivors, pure and simple. Out of all the teams in the fourth Expansion Class, the Oranges are the only one still alive. Last season, oldskool almost killed his team with some questionable pitching move, but he seems to have learned from his mistakes. Will that be enough to close the gap with the Losers?  The Generics are like T-1000 from Terminator 2. They are relentless, and seemingly cannot be stopped, even if they never can quite succeed in their goal of killing John Connor/making the playoffs. Which is why my prediction for them this season involves the Rockford Losers dropping them into a vat of molten steel.  The Losers are the class of the Vae Victis Division, winning it two years in a row. They have the best pitching, the best hitting, and even though Oscar Charleston appears to be made of a particularly fragile type of glass, they've been far beyond the other teams in this division for a while now. But the Dervishes are back, and they've retooled, and the Oranges look competent again. Can the Losers, the inaugural Hardcore Champions, hold on? Catcher 1. '73 Johnny Bench (DUB) 2. '06 Joe Mauer (FLO) 3. '81 Gary Carter (FLD) 4. '65 Joe Torre/'04 Victor Martinez (ROC) 5. '60 Yogi Berra (RCH) 6. '97 Jorge Posada (COB) Bench was the best catcher of his era and one of the best of all-time. Mauer is a better hitter than Bench, but a considerably worse defender, and catcher is a defense-first position. Gary Carter is also pretty drat good. Torre/Martinez is an effective platoon, though it's really more of a complementary piece. Berra is old, and 'old' and 'catcher' don't go together well. I don't trust Posada, and neither should you. First Baseman 1. '07 Albert Pujols (FLO) 2. '93 Frank Thomas (ROC) 3. '?? Buck Leonard (DUB) 4. '83 Eddie Murray (FLD) 5. '83 George Brett (COB) 6. '32 Chick Hafey (RCH) You could put the top three in any order. They're all super-elite. Murray is quietly dependable, but not quite a star in the Super-League. Brett is a great hitter for a 3B, but only a good hitter for a 1B. Chick Hafey is getting hyped up for reasons I don't understand. Second Baseman 1. '73 Joe Morgan (DUB) 2. '02 Nap Lajoie (FLD) 3. '05 Nap Lajoie (FLO) 4. '28 Frankie Frisch (ROC) 5. '99 Jeff Kent (RCH) 6. '75 Rod Carew (COB) All fine choices. Morgan gets the nod for his power and fielding. The Lajoies don't do much but hit for contact, but they do it better than just about anyone else. Frisch is always competent. Kent is an rear end in a top hat...and not a good fielder. Carew is not as much of an rear end in a top hat, but can field even less. Third Baseman 1. '78 Mike Schmidt (COB) 2. '67 Ron Santo (FLD) 3. '07 Kevin Youkilis (ROC) 4. '73 Tony Perez (DUB) 5. '65 Eddie Mathews (FLO) 6. '04 Nomar Garciaparra (RCH) Schmidt is Schmidt, and this version of Schmidt has actually had a good season in the Super-League. Santo does a lot of things well. Youk can hit...but not much else. Still, that's something. Tony Perez probably shouldn't have made it into the Hall of Fame, but he's a good player. Old Eddie Mathews will decompose before oldskool's eyes. Old Nomar, though, will probably be even more depressing. Shortstop 1. '83 Cal Ripken (DUB) 2. '34 Joe Cronin (ROC) 3. '97 Derek Jeter (COB) 4. '86 Alan Trammell (FLO) 5. '41 Luke Appling (RCH) 6. '78 Ozzie Smith (FLD) Ripken can hit and field, the only one in the group that can. Cronin is getting a bit too old to be a good defender, but still has a good bat. Jeter is a bit too young to be truly reliable. Trammell was a shortstop in an era where middle infielders weren't expected to have eye-popping stats. Appling's offensive skills consist of hitting singles and...well, that's it. Ozzie Smith is a great defensive player who might as well skip his turns at bat for all the good he'll do you. Left Fielder 1. '44 Stan Musial (DUB) 2. '89 Barry Bonds (FLO) 3. '55 Ted Williams (COB) 4. '21 Tris Speaker (ROC) 5. '24 Goose Goslin (RCH) 6. '67 Billy Williams (FLD) Stan the Man is in his prime, unlike Bonds and Williams, who are too young and too old respectively. Speaker isn't really a left fielder, but he can easily handle the position. Goose and Billy are decent enough, but not stars. Center Fielder 1. '?? Oscar Charleston (ROC) 2. '97 Bernie Williams (COB) 3. '90 Ken Griffey, Jr. (FLO) 4. '31 Earl Averill (DUB) 5. '81 Andre Dawson (FLD) 6. '68 Al Kaline (RCH) Was Oscar Charleston the greatest baseball player who ever lived? I'm not sure I'd go quite that far, but he's definitely in the conversation. I don't like Bernie, but the rest of the players on this list have too many question marks. Griffey is very young, Averill is just okay. Dawson swore a promise to god that he would never draw more than thirty walks in a season, lest he be forever damned. I don't know it what universe he think a relatively old Kaline is a center fielder, but I don't think I'd want to live there. Right Fielder 1. '33 Mel Ott (COB) 2. '64 Frank Robinson (ROC) 3. '03 Ichiro Suzuki (FLO) 4. '19 Joe Jackson/'75 Dwight Evans (FLD) 5. '06 Vladimir Guerrero (DUB) 6. '98 Tony Gwynn (RCH) Ott and Robinson are both great, I just like Ott a bit better. Suzuki is a singles-hitter, but at least he's good at it. I don't trust the Jackson/Evans combination at all, but maybe I'm just crazy/ Guerrero and Gwynn are two guys who got by thanks to their bat speed, and both are slowing down. Bench 1. '83 Don Slaught/'85 Ryne Sandberg/'87 Barry Larkin/'65 Willie Stargell/'95 Brian Giles (COB) 2. '66 Tony Oliva/'93 Robin Ventura/'00 Miguel Tejada/'64 Pete Rose/'93 Tim Raines (ROC) 3. '46 Walker Cooper/'67 Ernie Banks/'46 Johnny Mize/'34 Bad News Hale/'81 Tim Raines (FLD) 4. '98 Steve Finley/'24 Sam Rice/'94 Tim Salmon/'86 Gary Carter/'04 Sammy Sosa/'06 Robinson Cano (RCH) 5. '78 Gene Tenace/'31 Willie Kamm/'73 Ken Griffey, Sr./'19 Zack Wheat/'73 Dave Concepcion (DUB) 6. '99 Mike Lieberthal/'98 Placido Polanco/'30 Kiki Cuyler/'67 Rico Petrocelli/'42 Taffy Wright/'06 Justin Morneau (FLO) Kind of all over the place. The Coburns have the best bench, but the players aren't particularly flexible, and they don't have a true 4th outfielder. The Losers are more balanced, but their players aren't quite as good. The Dickshots have Mize and Raines and, well, that's about it. The Generics players are all better in theory than in fact. The Dervishes...uh...have a bench, but at least they're doing better than the Oranges. SP1 1. '?? Satchel Paige (ROC) 2. '66 Bob Gibson (DUB) 3. '24 Walter Johnson (RCH) 4. '02 Addie Joss (FLD) 5. '94 Greg Maddux (COB) 6. '94 Pedro Martinez (FLO) Paige is maybe the best pitcher of all time. Gibson was the best pitcher of his time, or at least was once Koufax retired. Johnson is probably the best pitcher of all time, but he's old. Joss is a deadball pitcher par excellence. Maddux needs a decent defense behind him. Martinez is erratic at this age, beware. SP2 1. '71 Tom Seaver (ROC) 2. '75 Bert Blyleven (COB) 3. '98 Kevin Brown (RCH) 4. '06 Johan Santana (FLO) 5. '02 Noodles Hahn (DUB) 6. '93 Pedro Martinez (FLD) All fine pitchers, in fact, these are really arranged as a matter of taste more than anything else. SP3 1. '86 Roger Clemens (FLO) 2. '61 Don Drysdale (ROC) 3. '04 Cliff Lee (COB) 4. '19 Burleigh Grimes (DUB) 5. '04 Greg Maddux (RCH) 6. '81 Captain America (FLD) Roger Clemens is the best pitcher of his era, and is at the height of his powers. Drysdale isn't the best pitcher of his era, but he is pretty good. Lee runs hot and cold in the Super-League. Grimes is entirely dependent on the quality of defense behind him. Greg Maddux is too old. Steve Rogers needs more super-soldier serum if he's going to make it in the Super-League. SP4 1. '71 Nolan Ryan (ROC) 2. '85 Dave Stieb (COB) 3. '78 Gaylord Perry (DUB) 4. '72 Dock Ellis (FLO) 5. '75 Luis Tiant (RCH) 6. '11 Frank Smith (FLD) Not the strongest bunch. Ryan is the class of the group, and he has maximum power here. Stieb is underrated both in real life and in the Super-League. Perry is so old, but the Dervishes' defense might sustain. Ellis' best performance of his career was induced by a hit of acid. That's not a great sign. Tiant is pretty old too, actually. Oh, and then there's Frank Smith, who CthuhluDreams spent an entire season trying to get rid of Frank Smith, so my confidence in him is not high. SP5 1. '97 Kevin Brown (FLO) 2. '31 Wes Ferrell (DUB) 3. '71 Jerry Koosman (ROC) 4. '83 El Presidente (FLD) 5. '84 Tom Seaver (COB) 6. '94 Chuck Finley (RCH) Also not a strong group, although the top four are all very good, but not great, pitchers who should be good enough to hold down the five spot. Seaver is just ancient, and that's going to end in injury. As for Chuck Finley, well, in honor of an incident from his career....Here I go again on my own.... Closer/Bullpen 1. '84 Dennis Eckersley/'04 Billy Wagner/'06 Joe Nathan (FLO) 2. '01 John Smoltz/'94 John Wetteland/'04 Rafael Betancourt (ROC) 3. '78 Rollie Fingers/'57 Hoyt Wilhelm/'68 John Hiller (DUB) 4. '98 Trevor Hoffman/'04 Kerry Wood/'04 LaTroy Hawkins (RCH) 5. '92 Tom Henke/'84 Goose Gossage/'81 Jeff Reardon (COB) 6. '81 Jeff Reardon/'83 Tippy Martinez/'67 Dick Radatz (FLD) Great. 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Attention! If some one else could handle the previews for the last two divisions, I'd really appreciate it.
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I'll at least take a run at the Momento Mori. edit: After spending 4 hours on this write up, will someone, anyone please handle the Sic Transit Vir? ToiletofSadness fucked around with this message at 21:25 on Dec 14, 2012 |
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Apologies for the double-post, but this way the thread will be bumped with new content... What will come first? Snow in Chicago or the start of the season? (Super League VIII Preview: Momento Mori Division)  The Memento Mori for most of its life has been held under the control of TKBomber. For the first five seasons, he won every Momento Mori title--the first four with the Skyhawks and the fifth with the Phantoms. However, in SLVI Smasher League refugee Viscount Slim and his Imperialists was able to break TKBomber's hold on the division due to the rest of the teams self-destructing from neglect. In SLVII, Burma was able to cruise to another division title as the expected competition from Expansion Cup champions Polyarny never materialized and TKBomber's new and controversial Portland Bulldogs weren't yet strong enough to compete. This year's Momento Mori returns Burma and Portland, but also imports the Antarctic Unspecifieds who finished second to the Finger-Bangers in last year's Sic Transit Vir and pushed the Cleveland Unicorns into the Gauntlet. In addition to those 3 returning teams, the Momento Mori also welcomes the Expansion Cup champion Web 2.0 Bloggers and the Cancun Tornados (who held the best regular season record in the Expansion Cup).  I like a lot of what you've done with your team here, but you still have holes in the pitching staff and in the corner outfield spots that could prevent you from moving on to SLIX.  Still probably the favorites, but will face some stiffer competition than the two last seasons that will hopefully push them to make better showings in the playoffs.  For a team that finished with the best record in the Expansion Cup, I feel I was really tough on your team. The starting pitching is great, but it has to be to carry every other part of the team. It may be the case where your team is sort of like the Unicorns--not particularly great on paper but collectively, every piece works together well. Except that bullpen. You really have to fix that.  You beat Senerio in a loser leaves town match in the Gauntlet. Now's time to focus on regaining what's rightfully yours. By any means, right?  Nice work in the offseason making significant upgrades at 1B, 2B, and SS. Unfortunately, you still have potential offensive holes at every infield position except 1B. The starting pitching is no longer a raging tire fire, which is a plus. Catcher
This should be non-controversial. Yogi Berra is an inner circle hall of famer and in his prime. Young Carlton Fisk and old Roy Campanella are both going to be very good. Burma's catcher platoon produced strong results last season, but, on its face, is not as strong as the 3 before them. Ernie Lombardi has the distinction of being the worst of a strong group and being on the down side of his career. First Baseman
Lou Gehrig is an all-time great. I like Bagwell just a smidge more than Cabrera because of his plate patience. The other 2 first baseman in this list are significantly behind the pack here. I chose Howard over Cancun's bizarre righty/righty platoon mainly because I expect Howard to hit at least 10-15 HRs. With Joe Kelley holding the dominant portion of the platoon, the Tornados might be lucky to hit double digits. Second Baseman
Hornsby and Collins are two of the best offensive 2B of all time. In choosing between the two you must make a couple trade-offs--Hornsby has the power hitting ability but less plate patience, and Collins has the better eye and base running ability but little power. All things considered, the Mogul engine seems to love any and all incarnations of Collins, so he gets the edge here. Gehringer is also very good but a step behind the first two. Riggs Stephenson has great offensive numbers for his position, if you ignore the fact that he only played in 100 games 5 times in his 14 year career; he's also a defensive liability. The Super League has never been particularly kind to Robinson Cano and Jim Delahanty is a not good player outside the context of the Super League. Third Baseman
Eddie Matthews is the clear favorite here and is good enough on his own that I don't understand why he's being platooned with Matt Williams. Still, clearly, the best. Brooks Robinson brings elite defense and mediocre offense, but I like him more than the collection of dead ballers behind him. All the rest should be mostly equivalent--high average, middling OBP, no power, at best middling defense. Home Run Baker goes first because he has the most power of the trio and because most of Cronin's value will come from playing SS. Shortstop
Trammell takes the top spot here solely because he's the most well-rounded of these SS--he's an excellent defender and no slouch with the bat. Next comes Cronin/Banks because they have more power than Jeter. Yount would be higher if he (and especially the 1982 version) didn't seem to be a curse to his every owner in the Super League. And falling well behind that group of current and should-be hall-of-famers comes Edgar Renteria. Viscount, how in the hell have you survived this long with such terrible shortstops? Left Fielder
Barry Bonds is great, and we are but his servants. Rickey's power gives him an edge over Hamilton (whose career stats kind of read to me like the deadball era version of Rickey). Ducky Joe Medwick has great power, but bad plate patience, terrible defense, and an even worse nickname. Sam Crawford brings up the rear. Center Fielder
I'm legitimately torn as to how to rank these players. Tris Speaker is a bonafide all-time great that brings good defense, superlative speed, amazing ability to hit for average, and draws walks. He even hits for high numbers of extra bases, just not home runs (literally the only hole in his game). On the other hand, while historically not as great a player, Jim Edmonds always mashes for the Imperialists and gets the benefit from the Mogul of being a modern day defender. Let's just split the difference and give the edge to young Speaker, then Edmonds, than old Speaker. Puckett will hit for high average and solid power, but can't draw walks and isn't as defensively capable as the 3 above him. Chet Lemon is the bad guy from every 80s movie where a rag-tag bunch of kids have to save the local youth center by break-dancing, winning a ski race, or circum-navigating the globe on a skateboard, right? Right Fielder
Frank Robinson has a strong record of success in the Super League; he's going to hit 20+ HRs, have a solid OBP, and play above-average outfield defense. That's enough to put him slightly ahead of the Duke who's playing out of position and always hits tons of HRs but can't quite match Robinson's OBP. If he stays healthy the whole season, Berkman will have offensive numbers as good as any player on this list; it's just that at his age, he is an injury liability and a defensive liability too. If Waner could hit more HRs, he'd be above Berkman. Herman probably isn't well suited to be hitting lead-off, but given the rest of the Bloggers' roster I can see how he ended up there. Bench
I think the Unspecifieds win this by default; they had the most bench players that didn't make me want to vomit at the thought of them starting. Shaky defense aside, Brett should probably be their starting 3B as it is. Bulldogs are next; they have good infield coverage/flexibility, but could use another OFer. On most days, the Tornados can bring prime Ernie Banks and Jackie Robinson off their bench as pinch hitters. That's awesome, but the rest of the bench not so much. The Bloggers have a lot of back up defensive players on what is already a defensive-minded team; they need better bench bats. Burma would be best to hope that none of their starters ever sustain an injury or need a moment of rest. SP1
A formidable set of aces. This particualr version of Pete Alexander has the pedigree as one of the most prolific Super League starters of all time, even at this advanced age. He's anchored all of TKBomber's rotations and done a good job of it. The next two are kind of a toss up; Hilton Smith has an established record as being a top-quality SL starting pitcher. Meanwhile, this is Radbourn's first go around in the league; giving the edge to Smith only because of the available track record. Ford only places forth because of the greatness in front of him; he'll be good, but his K/BB ratio is a little on the low side for my liking. Hughes just isn't as good as the rest of these pitchers. SP2
In prime Blyleven gets the nod over baby Koufax. Both are going to have ridiculous K/9 ratios. Chief Bender is probably slightly underrated because of my preference for strikeout pitchers as opposed to deadballers. 2 different revisions of Bender poster ERAs below 3.50 for the Mooglies last season. Don Sutton has been reliable, but in 1982 he's just extremely old. Things I learned about Jim Kaat while researching for this post: he won 15 straight gold gloves. SP3
I think 1921 Joe Wood must be broken or exploit some glitch in the Mogul sim engine; Wood stopped pitching for good after the 1920 season and only pitched 18.1 innings in the 3 seasons he played before that, but somehow has always been ridiculously good for every team he's played for. Last season he posted a 2.34 and 280 Ks (his K/9 was 2 points higher than Satchel Paige's). That's a joke right? McGinnity gets the edge over Cliff Lee, who's always been a bit up and down in the Super League. Pappas comes next, and I wouldn't expect him to pitch anywhere near as well as in the Expansion Cup. Making any 18 year-old a critical part of your rotation, even if it's Bob Feller is destined to end in failure. SP4
Two hall-of-fame Leftys and a lot of chaff. SP5
Coveleski is a hall-of-famer and was very good for the Tornados in the Expansion Cup. He's followed by the Bloggers' Mickey Lolich, who doesn't really fit in with the rest of the team's pitch to contact starters. Jack Morris, who is overrated and does not belong in the HOF, got smacked around in short duty in last year's Super League. Jim Perry doesn't even seem to be a viable innings eater, but pitched reasonably well last season. Sam McDowell is a guarantee of a lot of Ks and a lot of BBs. Closer/Bullpen
These bullpens are bad, and I hope they make you feel bad. By virture of having 2 top closers, the Unspecifieds' bullpen is leagues ahead of the rest of their division mates. Though, this success is weighed down by having Jose Valverde in their bullpen. Papelbon is probably better than every other reliever that appears on the other 3 teams, so I guess Burma comes next. As a White Sox fan, I have much appreciation for Thornston's strong work as a setup man in the real MLB, but he's going to get hammered in the Super League. The Bloggers are next because they did not make BJ Ryan their setup man. The Tornados' bullpen is comprised of the 1992 Royals and excess starters. Things will not go well unless each of their starters can somehow eat up 250 innings per man.
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I just want you all to know how deeply, deeply, deeply disappointed I am in all of you. And that is why I broke your players. Dynamo League Week 1 Injury Report We have a new unified European and United States Champion...but don't get too excited about it, because it's not someone anyone really wanted to win again... We also have a new Intercontinental Champion! Albany Pessimists Paul LaPlame (RP) (We both knew this would never work) - 11 days Dubai Dervishes Buck Leonard (1B) (Adding Injury to Insult) - 16 days Rochester Generics Chick Hafey (1B) (Well, at least you'll all shut the gently caress about Chick Hafey now) - 22 days
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The Thankfully-Final, Universe-Ending, Cosmonautical Super-League VIII Preview: Sic Transit Vir Division The Sic Transit Vir Division has been in existence since Super-League II. In that time, the Finger-Bangers have lost it once, and that was the season right after Marauder split his roster into two. Someday, a team will show the raw courage and tenacity to take Big Papa Marauder down. Maybe it'll be one of these teams.  A team built on crushing depression and the pitching greatness of Mike Krukow can't possibly fail, right? Right? Also, this team isn't actually located in the real Albany, instead, it's from a suburb of Oakland that happens to share the name. Still, props for making the best infield defense in the league. Terry/Fox/Aparicio/Williams? drat nice.  The Unicorns are back, and this time, they've got Barry Bonds, finally signalling an end to several seasons of stagnation. Of course, they still have to contend with the Finger-Bangers, and their recent history against Marauder's team isn't exactly encouraging. Still, they usually have made a fight of it, and they're still the only team to actually beat out the Bangers for the Sic Transit Vir Division crown. Maybe they can do it again.  The heavens may fall, the earth may quake, the seas may boil, but the Finger-Bangers will remain. The Finger-Bangers have won five division championships and three league championships to go along with a plethora of secondary title wins. They have a lineup so stacked with hitting talent that Marauder can hardly fit them all on the field at once. Some day, the Finger-Bangers and Macho Men will have their final battle. Until then, however, the Bangers will continue to rain misery on the rest of the Dynamo League.  Oneida follows in the grand tradition of owners putting their teams in quirky Upstate New York towns because they think it would be funny. Can they live up to the legacy of Poughkeepsie, Rochester, Ithaca and the rest?  Teams from San Juan have been uniformly disappointing. Forever. I can only assume that it's because of the devastation of local baseball that was caused by the MLB revising its labor pact with the Players' union to include free agents from Puerto Rico in the draft so many years ago. Catcher 1. '58 Yogi Berra/'71 Gene Tenace (NYF) 2. '67 Joe Torre (SJE) 3. '79 Darrell Porter (ONE) 4. '10 Brian McCann/'07 Russell Martin (CLU) 5. '96 Jason Kendall (ALB) Berra and Tenace still hit a ton, and that's pretty nice from the catcher spot. Joe Torre isn't a great defender, but he's a great-hitting catcher. Darrell Porter is a quality catcher, especially since Mogul doesn't model ODing on coke. McCann and Martin usually underperform, but it hasn't killed the Unicorns yet. Kendall is what he is. First Baseman 1. '92 Frank Thomas (NYF) 2. '67 Hank Aaron (SJE) 3. '90 Mark McGwire (CLU) 4. '34 Bill Terry (ALB) 5. '96 Andres Galarraga/'08 Todd Helton (ONE) Thomas was the best hitter in the universe in the early '90s. Aaron is also drat fine, but was starting to get a bit old in '67, and isn't a natural first baseman. McGwire does have power, but, in the Super-League, he has trouble hitting above about .225, and there's only so much walks and power can do about that. Bill Terry has great contact hitting, which isn't the worst thing in the world, but not much power. Big Cat and Helton are two old guys who only seem half-decent thanks to Coors Field. Second Baseman 1. '07 Nap Lajoie (NYF) 2. '24 Frankie Frisch/'34 Billy Herman (CLU) 3. '28 Rogers Hornsby (SJE) 4. '80 Joe Morgan (ONE) 5. '57 Nellie Fox (ALB) Hall of Famers all! Lajoie has the best bat, and his glove is good enough to put him past Frisch and Herman. Hornsby has a good bat, I'll grant you, but has fielding problems, which is not what you want from your middle infield. Joe Morgan is great, but also old, and old middle infielders don't tend to prosper. Nellie Fox still can't hit. Third Baseman 1. '85 Wade Boggs (SJE) 2. '98 Scott Rolen (ONE) 3. '90 Edgar Martinez (NYF) 4. '73 Darrell Evans (CLU) 5. '89 Matt Williams (ALB) Boggs is just a great hitter, and okay with the glove at this point in his career. Rolen is a good hitter with a great glove. Martinez is a great hitter without much of a glove at all. Darrell Evans can draw walks, and hit for some power, but also strikes out a ton, and isn't a great defender. Matt Williams is a pretty good defender, but has negative plate discipline. Shortstop 1. '03 Honus Wagner/'24 Frankie Frisch (CLU) 2. '?? Pop Lloyd (NYF) 3. '30 Joe Cronin (ONE) 4. '57 Luis Aparicio (ALB) 5. '84 Julio Franco (SJE) Wagner/Frisch and Lloyd are basically a wash, but I don't know that I want Marauder to win too many of these rankings, as it might get a bit depressing. Cronin is great, just not the greatest shortstop who ever lived. Aparicio is no-hit, all-glove, and Franco is all-hit, no-glove, but since SS is a defense-first position, Aparicio wins. Left Fielder 1. '91 Barry Bonds (NYF) 2. '43 Stan Musial (SJE) 3. '86 Barry Bonds (CLU) 4. '10 Josh Hamilton (ONE) 5. '11 Ryan Braun (ALB) Bonds and Musial are too great hitters, but Musial, in his prime, is probably a bit better than rookie Bonds. Josh Hamilton is injury-prone, and doesn't really draw walks, but he can smoke the hell out of any ball he makes contact with. Ryan Braun has struggled in the Super-League, probably because he's cut off from his supply of supplements. Center Fielder 1. '23 Ty Cobb (ONE) 2. '50 Duke Snider/'89 Eric Davis (NYF) 3. '84 Brett Butler (SJE) 4. '06 Ken Griffey, Jr./'24 Hack Wilson (CLU) 5. '57 Larry Doby (ALB) Cobb is Cobb, what more do you need to know. I'm not sure that Marauder's platoon is necessary, but it's hard to say it's done him much harm. Butler is a nice complementary player but, like in real life, he's not much of a star. The Griffey/Wilson platoon is trying to make the best of a bad situation. Doby is just a bad situation. Right Fielder 1. '49 Ted Williams (NYF) 2. '34 Mel Ott (ALB) 3. '58 Al Kaline (SJE) 4. '23 Harry Heilmann (ONE) 5. '24 Ross Youngs/'03 Honus Wagner (CLU) Teddy Ballgame can't really play right field, but he's not out there for his glove. Ott is a far better fielder, and is almost as good a hitter as Williams. Almost. Kaline is dependable if not exciting. Heilmann is okay. Ross Youngs can hit for contact, but not walks or power. Bench 1. '01 John Olerud/'03 Chipper Jones/'10 Lance Berkman/'04 Placido Polanco/A Cast of Thousands (NYF) 2. '74 Joe Ferguson/'74 Davey Lopes/'74 Steve Garvey/'74 Jimmy Wynn/'67 Denis Menke (SJE) 3. '89 Bob Brenly/'57 Minnie Minoso/'34 George Watkins/'32 George Grantham/'89 Will Clark/'89 Robby Thompson (ALB) 4. Platoon Partners/'24 George Kelly/'03 Fred Clarke/'07 Rafael Furcal (CLU) 5. '23 Johnny Bassler/'79 Frank White/'79 Willie Wilson/'23 Topper Rigney/'96 Vinny Castilla (ONE) Marauder, of course, also has about twenty players he can call on in the minors if he gets into a jam. The Elephants' bench is essentially the best bits of the '74 Dodgers, who did win the pennant that year. The Pessimists bench doesn't inspire confidence, but does have some interesting pieces. The Unicorns' bench is one-dimensional contact hitters, and that's not great. The Spooners' bench makes me sad just looking at it. SP1 1. '62 Juan Marichal (SJE) 2. '34 Carl Hubbell (ALB) 3. '08 Ed Walsh (ONE) 4. '07 Addie Joss (NYF) 5. '03 Deacon Phillippe (CLU) Four great pictures and the Deac, who has been the Unicorns' best pitcher just about every year. A good group. SP2 1. '74 Don Sutton (SJE) 2. '22 Pete Alexander (ONE) 3. '80 Nolan Ryan (NYF) 4. '03 Sam Leever (CLU) 5. '89 Mike Krukow (ALB) Sutton takes first thanks to his reliability. Alexander is old, and if he takes an injury, he might not come back from it. Ryan is always a bit of a mystery in the Super-League. Leever is just another deadball. Mike Krukow can't really be your #2 starter, can he? SP3 1. '?? Smokey Joe Williams (NYF) 2. '84 Bert Blyleven (SJE) 3. '71 Catfish Hunter (CLU) 4. '57 Billy Pierce (ALB) 5. '08 Frank Smith (ONE) Williams has usually been pretty good in the Super-League, and Blyleven has been solid. Below that are question marks. Is Hunter as good as he showed last year? Can Pierce live up to his potential for once? Why did CthulhuDreams hate FRank Smith so much? SP4 1. '67 Ferguson Jenkins (SJE) 2. '00 Curt Schilling (NYF) 3. '34 Hal Schumacher (ALB) 4. '08 Cy Falkenberg (CLU) 5. '23 Hooks Dauss (ONE) Jenkins is a Hall of Famer in his prime. Schilling might be a Hall of Famer, even if Rhode Island sues him for all he's worth. Hal Schumacher, like all players named Hal in the first half of the century, was nicknamed Prince Hal for obvious reasons. What do you mean that's not obvious? It's from Shakespeare. No, not Romeo and Juliet! No, not Hamlet, either! What...Shakespeare didn't even write Ivanhoe! It's from Henry IV, Parts 1 and 2! Kids today. Falkenberg is usually decent in the Super-League, if not super-exciting. I'm sad to say that the best thing about Hooks Dauss is his name. SP5 1. '58 Jim Bunning (SJE) 2. '08 Doc White (ONE) 3. '90 Orel Hershiser (NYF) 4. '24 Art Nehf (CLU) 5. '96 Denny Neagle (ALB) In order: Good. Deadball-tacular. Semi-broken down. As good as a man named 'Nehf' could be. Closer/Bullpen 1. '77 Dennis Eckersley/'74 Mike Marshall/'77 Jim Kern (SJE) 2. '75 Rollie Fingers/'82 Rollie Fingers/'10 Alfredo Aceves (NYF) 3. '07 Takashi Saito/'07 Jonathan Broxton/'07 Hong-Chih Kuo (CLU) 4. '97 Robb Nen/'89 Craig Lefferts/'89 Atlee Hammaker (ALB) 5. 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