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Angry Grimace posted:The list was only published on the 3rd - San Diego had two stores listed as selling, but I just saw an ad from Bottlecraft showing their bricks and advertising them. There was nothing official about that list. The person who put it together was basically culling data from facebook/twitter and the various beer forums. It was no coincidence that the places who first talked about having it were on that list, but the places who didn't make a peep, digitally-speaking, were not. I was in and out at Best drat Beer Shop with a pair of boxes in about 5 minutes this morning. Two people were walking out with a case in hand as I entered, and there were a few guys behind me in line who had reserved two. Most people reserved only one box, but there were a few '2's on the list Sid was looking for my name on and a few '3's as well.
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wattershed posted:There was nothing official about that list. The person who put it together was basically culling data from facebook/twitter and the various beer forums. It was no coincidence that the places who first talked about having it were on that list, but the places who didn't make a peep, digitally-speaking, were not. Yeah I caved and got one from Bottlecraft. They said they would go on sale at noon but all of them are already gone because they had 15 and there were already 15 in line.
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Thought about driving over to Portland for it but was just too laaaaaazy (and flu ridden). I imagine I'll get a bottle sometime either from the Bend distro guy I know or some trade in the future.
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Dec 12, 2012 21:11
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Odd how some places around the country had these massive lines whereas others were just 'waltz on in and grab it.' Didn't seem to fall along the lines of hot/cold beer towns either. Also I totally lied to myself about Westy being the last beer I'll purchase this year. 50/50 Eclipse Elijah Craig 12-year on Friday. My wallet, that poor bastard.
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wattershed posted:Odd how some places around the country had these massive lines whereas others were just 'waltz on in and grab it.' Didn't seem to fall along the lines of hot/cold beer towns either. It really depended on the allocation from what I can tell.
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Dec 12, 2012 21:23
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Evidently. Well done, Canada...
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Dec 12, 2012 21:29
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wattershed posted:Evidently. Well done, Canada... Bine and Vine apparently still has a big line out front. To be honest, I'm glad I did it. I would have really regretted it if I had just blown it off and gently caress it, I can make another $90, but I can't buy Westvleteren XII. Angry Grimace fucked around with this message at 21:46 on Dec 12, 2012 |
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Dec 12, 2012 21:37
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I'm pretty sure I'm going to have to camp out overnight to get some in Northeast OH. The store I'm going to is waiting until tomorrow to sell their allotment, because today they were doing a Stone Vertical release. Apparently some people didn't know, and there were people who drove over an hour to line up today. When I called yesterday to ask about their release, the girl who answered told me that there had literally been hundreds of calls asking about it. So yeah... hopefully I don't have to wait overnight, but I'm going up there around midnight, and if people are already lined up, I'm going to jump in line as well.
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Dec 12, 2012 21:48
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Yo, you should read this Tony Magee speech, it's really drat good. http://www.craftbeer.com/wp-content/uploads/Tony_Magee_Final.pdf
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Dec 12, 2012 21:52
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Westy 12 update in Arizona. Total Wine still has a ton of the stuff. I should have taken orders for you goons who aren't getting it. No lines, no hoopla, at least not as of an hour ago. Waltzed in and bought it and there was plenty left. Such a weird event to me, as far as which states and retailers got to sell it and the allocations. In fun work news, I'm now the manager of the craft bar I work in and I was told by the owner that we're going to have a Stone Vertical Epic private event with 03-12 coming soon. I didn't get a chance to try them before 2008 so I'm stoked. AZ goons feel free to PM me for details.
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Modern Automaton posted:Westy 12 update in Arizona. Total Wine still has a ton of the stuff. I should have taken orders for you goons who aren't getting it. No lines, no hoopla, at least not as of an hour ago. Waltzed in and bought it and there was plenty left. 02 must have been incredibly scarce because I'm seeing a ton of Verticals that go 03-12 and the only one that I've seen that has 02 is literally the one at Stone.
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Angry Grimace posted:02 must have been incredibly scarce because I'm seeing a ton of Verticals that go 03-12 and the only one that I've seen that has 02 is literally the one at Stone. It was. It trades insanely high.
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Dec 12, 2012 21:58
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crazyfish posted:It was. It trades insanely high. If I was serious about doing a Vertical I would have just used the homebrew recipe to make my own for years I didn't have.
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The bars here have all said 02 didn't even leave the brewery, but that's pure word from the grapevine. Any truth to that? Might get to go halfsies on a Westy brick, huzzah 
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air- posted:The bars here have all said 02 didn't even leave the brewery, but that's pure word from the grapevine. Any truth to that? Nope. I've seen a few floating around for trade. It just had exceptionally limited distribution because they didn't know if they were going to stick with it.
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Dec 12, 2012 22:08
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Angry Grimace posted:Bine and Vine apparently still has a big line out front. Heh, Geoi said he wasn't even going to sell them until 4pm today, so if there's a line now, for TEN boxes, that's kinda funny. And that's a great summary of why I threw down money on this. It actually goes to a good cause (I have a soft spot in my heart for traditionalists at their craft, beer or otherwise), even if Shelton scoops a lot of that off the top, and I don't have any trips to Belgium scheduled any time in the near or distant future. For the quality, the cause, the trouble I'd need to go through otherwise to obtain my own bottles, it doesn't seem that astronomical.
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To emphasize the rarity of Vertical Epic 02, Greg Koch (the owner and founder of Stone Brewing) just got on Facebook to invite anyone who has bottles of 02-05 to come hang out with him at the brewery for a taste comparison with his bottles.wattershed posted:Heh, Geoi said he wasn't even going to sell them until 4pm today, so if there's a line now, for TEN boxes, that's kinda funny. Edit: Yup, he just posted on FB to say he sold out despite his "not selling til 4" plan. My original plan was to just go there, but if I hadn't seen that Bottlecraft post I wouldn't have gotten any at all since I wasn't going to wait in line for four hours. Angry Grimace fucked around with this message at 22:42 on Dec 12, 2012 |
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Angry Grimace posted:On Facebook he said he had 36 bricks. Bottlecraft had 15, BDBS had 10 from what you said and I have no clue what Holiday Wine Cellar had. Geoi (B&V) told me yesterday afternoon that he had 10 6-packs, down from his expected amount of 15. Apparently I don't frequent his store enough to get told the truth! BDBS had plenty, certainly more than 10. Sid's list was a few pages long of handwritten names & numbers with each person's requested quantity, and he never sent out an email saying he was maxed out on people requesting boxes, so I assume the list didn't clear the inventory on hand. He was going to open it up to walk-ins only once a week had passed and everyone who'd emailed ahead to reserve it could pick it up. After a week, the reserved boxes would be available to the public along with the rest which presumably weren't reserved by the date he cut off the ability to do so. e: Wow yeah, if I somehow got screwed over by BDBS my fall back was to arrive at B&V around 3:30. Then there's my second fall back at my super secret store which nobody would think to check at whose beer buyer said he's expecting a few cases either today or tomorrow  wattershed fucked around with this message at 22:47 on Dec 12, 2012 |
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Angry Grimace posted:To be honest, I'm glad I did it. I would have really regretted it if I had just blown it off and gently caress it, I can make another $90, but I can't buy Westvleteren XII. That's some pretty solid rationale.. I had convinced myself to skip it, and now I'm kicking myself. I may go scavenger hunting after work, but I've got a feeling most of the shops around San Diego that had it are probably already sold out. At least I've got a few bottles of Abyss waiting for me, that oughta help. Edit: wattershed posted:BDBS had plenty, certainly more than 10. Sid's list was a few pages long of handwritten names & numbers with each person's requested quantity, and he never sent out an email saying he was maxed out on people requesting boxes, so I assume the list didn't clear the inventory on hand. He was going to open it up to walk-ins only once a week had passed and everyone who'd emailed ahead to reserve it could pick it up. After a week, the reserved boxes would be available to the public along with the rest which presumably weren't reserved by the date he cut off the ability to do so. 
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Capt. Awesome posted:That's some pretty solid rationale.. I had convinced myself to skip it, and now I'm kicking myself. I may go scavenger hunting after work, but I've got a feeling most of the shops around San Diego that had it are probably already sold out. As for the beer itself, I'm not even sure how I'm gonna handle this. Vertical of Trappist Belgian Dark Strong Ales? 1 to 1 comparison with St. Bernardus Abt. 12? Comparison with non-Trappist/American versions like Allagash, etc.? In non-Westy 12 hype news, I picked up a second bottle of Abyss to cellar while I drink the first. Angry Grimace fucked around with this message at 23:01 on Dec 12, 2012 |
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Capt. Awesome posted:Maybe I'll hit BDBS and see if they have anymore for sale. Or maybe you PM me which super secret store? Well then it won't be a secret, silly. But for realsies, I know he doesn't order a whole lot of any one thing so between what he might want for himself and what I'll possibly get (and this goes for things beyond W12) I need to ensure I have one brick to share with friends while I stow the other two away. If by chance I walk in there today and can buy one, I'll make sure to spread the word.
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Element1290 posted:I'd consider giving up my lifestyle to be a monk and drink that brew every day. Start your own brewery. Welcome to 16-hour brew days and lots of monastery-like cleaning chores!
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FreelanceSocialist posted:Start your own brewery. Welcome to 16-hour brew days and lots of monastery-like cleaning chores! My assumption is that being a St. Sixtus monk isn't all getting drunk off 12 and that there's a reasonable amount of Monkery involved
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Angry Grimace posted:My assumption is that being a St. Sixtus monk isn't all getting drunk off 12 and that there's a reasonable amount of Monkery involved From what I understand, pretty much none of the Trappist monks drink the stuff they sell. There's generally another small beer (3-4%) they make and don't sell that the brothers drink. Or maybe that's only some of them, but I know I've read that somewhere before.
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Retemnav posted:From what I understand, pretty much none of the Trappist monks drink the stuff they sell. There's generally another small beer (3-4%) they make and don't sell that the brothers drink. Or maybe that's only some of them, but I know I've read that somewhere before. Yes, those are called "Patersbier." Patersbier is not an actual style, however, its just a designation for whatever they make for themselves, which probably varies among the Trappist abbeys. Technically, Westvleteren XII isn't a "quadrupel" either; "Quadrupel" is a brand name from De Koningshoeven's Dark Strong Ale. There's really only Dubbel and Tripel (which in reality just mean styles two and three and have nothing to do with each other, despite persistent misinformation that they're double-fermented or whatever) as actual styles. I'm looking at Facebook feeds and wow, people are starting to get mega pissed off about the fact the beer sold out and they didn't get it. I'm not really sure what the retailers were supposed to do. It isn't really their fault they did not get enough for everyone. Angry Grimace fucked around with this message at 23:25 on Dec 12, 2012 |
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My buddy recommended doing a vertical with some of the other big (and easily obtainable) Quads, so for me that'd be Pannepøt, St. Bernardus 12, Rochefort 10 and Urthel Samaranth. But, buy them all now so they'd all be aged approximately the same amount of time as whenever I work my way through the Westvleterens. I think he just wants to swoop in on my booze. E: Haha, I love the hate across the internet how people who don't have "real jobs" were able to buy them all up. Nobody who's unemployed (and of sound mind and body) is spending $90 on a sixer of beer unless they're looking to flip it to pay the rent. wattershed fucked around with this message at 23:33 on Dec 12, 2012 |
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wattershed posted:My buddy recommended doing a vertical with some of the other big (and easily obtainable) Quads, so for me that'd be Pannepøt, St. Bernardus 12, Rochefort 10 and Urthel Samaranth. But, buy them all now so they'd all be aged approximately the same amount of time as whenever I work my way through the Westvleterens. Assuredly so, but I can't really see the fun in just drinking it alone in the dark with the curtains drawn while playing World of Warcraft.
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Angry Grimace posted:Assuredly so, but I can't really see the fun in just drinking it alone in the dark with the curtains drawn while playing World of Warcraft. I don't play video games, TYVM. But he's got a great point, I want to make sure these are enjoyed with people who would appreciate them and not 'random friend who wants to try something from my fridge.' That's what the homebrew quad is for! 
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Westy 12 is the new Black Friday. I'm going to go home and enjoy my $5 bottle of Rochefort 10 while they all fight over their unicorn beers.
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wattershed posted:I don't play video games, TYVM. You could brew up rage-saq's Westvleteren 12 clone and do a side by side.
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wattershed posted:My buddy recommended doing a vertical with some of the other big (and easily obtainable) Quads, so for me that'd be Pannepøt, St. Bernardus 12, Rochefort 10 and Urthel Samaranth. But, buy them all now so they'd all be aged approximately the same amount of time as whenever I work my way through the Westvleterens. This is fun to do and you should do it. Do bear in mind that they are high ABV, big flavor beers, though so trying to fit too many beers in one night can wind up with you not really tasting a good number of them. We did two a day for a week, and it was great because the previous beers were recent enough to compare but you weren't too drunk / tastebuds over loaded to really appreciate what you have now.
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Angry Grimace posted:You could brew up rage-saq's Westvleteren 12 clone and do a side by side. I was lazy and did a SMaSH quad (+D-180 sugar) which is still finishing up but tastes decent so far. If it leaves me wanting, I've had rage-saq's quad recipe bookmarked for a while now as the next one to do. Arnold of Soissons posted:This is fun to do and you should do it. Yeah, my first thought was to do tasters of each of them with enough people to make it such that we weren't getting too drunk on the contents nor wasting the opened beer. I also trust myself to compare across a few days as you did and immerse myself in each one a little more carefully. I haven't tried to do any comparisons or blind tests before, might have to whip that up at some point.
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Saq's new world quad recipe turned into one of the best things I've ever brewed.
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Angry Grimace posted:In non-Westy 12 hype news, I picked up a second bottle of Abyss to cellar while I drink the first. I bought two, am waiting to crack both. What did you think of it as it stands currently? I am sure it tastes good now but for $14/bottle I just thought I might as well adhere to the "best after 11/1/13" on my bottles.
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crazyfish posted:Saq's new world quad recipe turned into one of the best things I've ever brewed. We're really blurring the lines between the home brew and pro-beer threads here, but I'm going to try and do the old world recipe once I get set up to do a decoction mash after I finish the Bar Exam.
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Angry Grimace posted:In non-Westy 12 hype news, I picked up a second bottle of Abyss to cellar while I drink the first. I bought two, am waiting to crack both. What did you think of it as it stands currently? I am sure it tastes good now but for $14/bottle I just thought I might as well adhere to the "best after 11/1/13" printed on my bottles. crazyfish posted:Saq's new world quad recipe turned into one of the best things I've ever brewed. Found a link to this on Hopville, can anyone give me some more background on this guy/beer/recipe? Thinking about making another big beer... global tetrahedron fucked around with this message at 00:29 on Dec 13, 2012 |
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global tetrahedron posted:Found a link to this on Hopville, can anyone give me some more background on this guy/beer/recipe? Thinking about making another big beer... The only info I can give you is that Rage-Saq is a goon, and he posts in both this thread, and the homebrewing one. It's probably better to ask in the homebrewing thread about the beer/recipe.
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Got to the store at 4:15PM, encountered about a 200 person line and their plan was to start selling at 5:00. I guess they figured the line was long enough and began to sell around 4:45. The line moved very fast, and about half of the line was out of the store by 5:05. They still had a GOOD amount left, too. The people showing up now probably aren't having any problem getting one, I'll guess. Not sure when I'm going to open one though.
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Kudosx posted:The only info I can give you is that Rage-Saq is a goon, and he posts in both this thread, and the homebrewing one. It's probably better to ask in the homebrewing thread about the beer/recipe. Ah, alright, was wondering if he was a goon. I also tend to get this thread mixed up with the homebrewing thread since I read them both habitually and simultaneously.
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