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TheRedEye
Sep 10, 2003

WE HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR YOU!

Miyamotos RGB NES posted:

Well I didn't ask for my health! How does SNES look on it?? :neckbeard:

Probably really awesome but my monitor actually has this stupid DB25 connector instead of the individual colors, I need to figure out if I can go from the converter you sent to DB25 (probably not hard!) or if I should make the 6 hour drive to L.A. and pick up yet another monitor for my house that would be compatible (though 5 inches smaller).

If that didn't work I was going to PM you and ask if you wanted it back, but you've forced my hand! I was super bummed when I figured it out, thanks again for sending it. I'll let you know what happens, let ME know if you know what I'm talking about and if you have any ideas.

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Katana Gomai
Jan 14, 2007

"Thus," concluded Miyamoto, "you must give up everything you have to be my disciple."

Sexy Slippers posted:


A family trainer pad along with Takeshi's Castle 2 and some other game.

How much was that? I plan on buying one when I am in Japan and I'd like to know what's a fair price.

*edit: I soldered my friend's SNES RGB-Scart cable (as in, I removed the resistors) and it worked just fine, producing a great RGB signal; now he is using an RGB-Scart-to-HDMI adaptor and reports that the resistorless cable produces the same result as the unaltered one did without it (screen is really dark etc.) while a regular GameCube RGB cable with resistors produces a perfect image. He claims the image is RGB but I have to have a look at that myself. How does that happen?

Katana Gomai fucked around with this message at 11:16 on Dec 12, 2012

Asbrandt
Feb 16, 2011

This isn't getting enough attention, the thread and the writeup it spawned are alot easier to follow than anything else I could find via Google.
So much so that I think I can handle it instead of making Hamburglar do it for me.

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EDIT: Something else worth mentioning for the OP is that for the Model 2 Sega Genesis, the full-board is not automatically bad.
According to Ace, a VA2 or 2.3 with some modding has sound better than the short-board VA4, while having nice video if you get one with the CXA1645 encoder.

From the Sega-16 thread already linked in the op is this, regarding the VA2 / 2.3:

Ace posted:

Here's an audio fix you can perform to fix the bad PSG and make the YM2612 quieter so the volume balance matches that of a pre-VA7 Genesis Model 1.
Refer to this schematic made by Chessage so you know what to replace: http://postimage.org/image/2lzbadko4/

1) Replace the 2.2Kohm resistors at R32 and R33 by 3.9Kohm resistors
2) Replace the 2Kohm resistor at R31 by a 2.2Kohm resistor
3) Relocate the 1Kohm resistor at R2 BEFORE the 2.2Kohm resistor you just added (doing this makes the audio louder while eliminating all distortion)
4) Replace the capacitor at C61 by a 1uF capacitor

The reason why the PSG is screwed up on both the VA2 and VA2.3 Genesis Model 2s is because the PSG is too heavily amplified. The location of resistor R2 makes it so that the sound is not only too quiet, but also distorted as two of the square waves are amplified more than the other square wave and the white noise. Relocating the resistor before R31 not only makes the sound louder, but also eliminates all distortion caused by R2 being placed after R31.

For reference and completeness sake, you look down the cartridge slot to determine a full-board's revision:
VA2: http://i.imgur.com/lPTAk.jpg?1
VA2.3: http://i.imgur.com/sMEBf.jpg

The hard part is getting that Sony encoder, as not even "Made in China" is a 100% sign of it, while the VA4 always has it.

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EDIT 2: Additionally, the OP does not point out how to tell a VA3 and VA4 apart, they are both short-board revisions however the VA3 has bad video circuitry.

If you look closely at the image of the short-board revision, you'll notice that there are square tabs cut out from the RF shield at the right of the upper vent and the center of the lower one.
A VA3 does not have those cutouts, so you should make sure they -are- present.

Asbrandt fucked around with this message at 16:07 on Dec 12, 2012

Kilazar
Mar 23, 2010
I'm sick. And when I am sick, I want nothing more than to curl up in my blanket on the couch and play some SNES. However my current living room layout sucks for this, and my retro tv is in the office with my collection. And I am not moving it :(

So I was just looking around for some wireless controller options, and stumbled upon this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LlnmfaILCHw

Now my question, are any of you talented chaps able to do this, or have you done this? And if so, how much would it cost me to have you do this for me? That is, if it works as well as that video makes it look.

*edit* Also, were there ever any good third party wireless controllers for the ps2? Or would I have to consider this mod as well for it. I remember having a pelican wireless, but not being happy with it at all.

Kilazar fucked around with this message at 16:04 on Dec 12, 2012

Random Stranger
Nov 27, 2009



I finished my secret santa art project and the whole thing will go out tomorrow. Who would have thought it would take that much urine to fill a jar with a Mario figurine in it?

lilcasino
Jun 4, 2001

Random Stranger posted:

I finished my secret santa art project and the whole thing will go out tomorrow. Who would have thought it would take that much urine to fill a jar with a Mario figurine in it?

In hopes you had asparagus the night before. Ahh smell of the holidays.

Neddy Seagoon
Oct 12, 2012

"Hi Everybody!"

Random Stranger posted:

I finished my secret santa art project and the whole thing will go out tomorrow. Who would have thought it would take that much urine to fill a jar with a Mario figurine in it?

It's just not Christmas without that "Drunk Uncle" touch.

TheRedEye
Sep 10, 2003

WE HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR YOU!
I'm playing Link's Awakening on a proper backlit GBA SP every time I go to the bathroom or suddenly don't feel like working for a while and it's the best game. You guys should know that.

Safari Disco Lion
Jul 21, 2011

Boss, if they make us find seven lost crystals, I'm quitting.

Kilazar posted:

So I was just looking around for some wireless controller options, and stumbled upon this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LlnmfaILCHw

That is seriously cool. I doubt I have the electronics skill to make one, at least yet, but drat do I want to get a few old broken controllers, rip out the guts, and give this a shot.

Space Harrier
Apr 19, 2007
GET READY!!!!

Kilazar posted:

I'm sick. And when I am sick, I want nothing more than to curl up in my blanket on the couch and play some SNES. However my current living room layout sucks for this, and my retro tv is in the office with my collection. And I am not moving it :(

So I was just looking around for some wireless controller options, and stumbled upon this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LlnmfaILCHw

Now my question, are any of you talented chaps able to do this, or have you done this? And if so, how much would it cost me to have you do this for me? That is, if it works as well as that video makes it look.

*edit* Also, were there ever any good third party wireless controllers for the ps2? Or would I have to consider this mod as well for it. I remember having a pelican wireless, but not being happy with it at all.
What's up, sick buddy? I had some bad turkey last night, so I've mostly been playing GBA on a toilet but I would recommend picking up some simple controller extension cords. Low tech, doubles my range, no lag or other weirdness.

Null of Undefined
Aug 4, 2010

I have used 41 of 300 characters allowed.
In my attempts to find instructions to de-yellow my incredibly yellowed Famicom, I stumbled across this. Has anyone taken this approach? If so, after removing the decals and whatnot with a heat gun and razor, how did you manage to get them re-fitted?

I would love to bring my Famicom back to it's original glory, but if I have to choose between a yellow Famicom, and one without any decals, I'll choose the yellow.

Kilazar
Mar 23, 2010

Space Harrier posted:

What's up, sick buddy? I had some bad turkey last night, so I've mostly been playing GBA on a toilet but I would recommend picking up some simple controller extension cords. Low tech, doubles my range, no lag or other weirdness.

I have a couple of those, but my dogs tail is a registered weapon of mass destruction. He has tanked my ps/2 3 times now. I might just get some extra long RCA cables and run them with a cable guide across the floor. Then I can just set the console on the coffee table when I am too sick to sit in the office and play.

But I still want to get one of these wireless controllers done up at some point, cause they are cool.

Caitlin
Aug 18, 2006

When I die, if there is a heaven, I will spend eternity rolling around with a pile of kittens.

Peenmaster posted:

In my attempts to find instructions to de-yellow my incredibly yellowed Famicom, I stumbled across this. Has anyone taken this approach? If so, after removing the decals and whatnot with a heat gun and razor, how did you manage to get them re-fitted?

I would love to bring my Famicom back to it's original glory, but if I have to choose between a yellow Famicom, and one without any decals, I'll choose the yellow.

We pretty much all keep suggesting this because it's pretty much retr0bright gel, which is also what I did except I did not thicken it and just used a bath of peroxide and Oxy Clean with sun. Mine has no stickers so that's a non issue and the metal faceplates were fine. The whole point of the thickener is that you can brush it on around the decals though, isn't it?

Null of Undefined
Aug 4, 2010

I have used 41 of 300 characters allowed.

Caitlin posted:

We pretty much all keep suggesting this because it's pretty much retr0bright gel, which is also what I did except I did not thicken it and just used a bath of peroxide and Oxy Clean with sun. Mine has no stickers so that's a non issue and the metal faceplates were fine. The whole point of the thickener is that you can brush it on around the decals though, isn't it?

It just seems like I would never get it perfectly around the sticker, so that either there would be a yellow ring around the stickers, or I get too close, and the foam would get on it and start messing it up.

Maybe I'm overthinking it.

ChristsDickWorship
Dec 7, 2004

Annihilate your demons



Safari Disco Lion posted:

That is seriously cool. I doubt I have the electronics skill to make one, at least yet, but drat do I want to get a few old broken controllers, rip out the guts, and give this a shot.
If you download his info packet (linked from the youtube video) it's really about as basic as you could hope for in terms of a really functional project to get your feet wet. He spells everything out, complete with part numbers from a German electronics distributor and offers good diagrams and pictures of the parts crammed into the controller bodies. Looks like it would be about ~$50 per controller (mostly for the RF units) to buy the parts, and you'd have to invest in a USB interface to flash the microprocessors yourself (although he provides all the code to flash them with).

I think there must be a way to alter that build so you don't have to flash a microprocessor and could make d-pad controllers where the cable basically just becomes RF, because I'm guessing translating a bunch of basic switch inputs to transmit wirelessly is a pretty common application. Seems like it could not interpret the inputs at all, just wire the pins right at each end and voila, but I don't know if you can buy cheap components that do that. You'd lose the ability to make the controllers cross-platform, and analog sticks might be out the window, but that wouldn't be a huge deal to me personally.

If your goal is a setup where you have a lot of consoles, the cross-platform thing probably means figuring out how to program the processors from scratch for anything but NES, SNES, N64 and Saturn, since that's all the info he gives. It also limits you to 2 simultaneous controllers at any given time if all the receivers can only choose from the same 2 channels, whereas you could probably find chips tuned slightly differently for each console and use them all at the same time if you didn't worry about the cross-platform thing. I imagine most of us only play 1 console at a time, but if you ever have multiple consoles out as party favors or something wireless controllers would be extra-convenient.

I'm not much of a DIY electronics guy yet though, haven't done anything more complex than making my own arcade controller and fixing cables. Maybe someone else can chime in with whether that makes any sense.

Discount Viscount
Jul 9, 2010

FIND THE FISH!

TheRedEye posted:

I'm playing Link's Awakening on a proper backlit GBA SP every time I go to the bathroom or suddenly don't feel like working for a while and it's the best game. You guys should know that.

This is a guy who knows what's up. I tried to take my time through my last playthrough and just really savor it again since it seemed like the last time I had played through it I'd kinda rushed things just because I knew the dungeons so well. I want Totaka to do another Zelda soundtrack.

SassyRobot
Jan 19, 2007

ANGRY WASHING duh-duh duh-duh duh-DUH!

Kilazar posted:

*edit* Also, were there ever any good third party wireless controllers for the ps2? Or would I have to consider this mod as well for it. I remember having a pelican wireless, but not being happy with it at all.

I had two of these Logitech pads until someone* forgot to take out the batteries before storing them and the leaking bastards damaged one of them. They have an XBox counterpart but I'm not as fond of them for ergonomic reasons. It was also a pain in the days of yore when Live still worked because the designers elected to tie the accessory ports to the receiver rather than leaving them in the controller itself. Nothing like stringing microphone cables across the room :toot:.

*Hint: It was meeee :v:!

Caitlin
Aug 18, 2006

When I die, if there is a heaven, I will spend eternity rolling around with a pile of kittens.

Peenmaster posted:

It just seems like I would never get it perfectly around the sticker, so that either there would be a yellow ring around the stickers, or I get too close, and the foam would get on it and start messing it up.

Maybe I'm overthinking it.

I'm pretty sure you're overthinking it. Like every other painting I have ever done, my advice to you is such : do not overload your brush, do not use too huge of a brush (you don't need a tiny one either), do not rush yourself. It's gonna be okay, buddy!

One of the other retr0bright users in here can tell you what they did specifically but yeah mine was a bath so I'm not much help with the sticker removal or anything.

Quidthulhu
Dec 17, 2003

Stand down, men! It's only smooching!

Secret Santa gift sent out today! Hopefully will be there next week sometime. Enjoy your gift, Santee!

SUPER HASSLER
Jan 31, 2005

I like Final Fantasy Adventure more and I don't care what you people say about it :colbert:

8-bit Miniboss
May 24, 2005

CORPO COPS CAME FOR MY :filez:

SUPER HASSLER posted:

I like Final Fantasy Adventure more and I don't care what you people say about it :colbert:

I find myself playing its remake, Sword of Mana more. Still not sure why...

StellarX
Aug 22, 2005

Mission Complete.
You are the greatest player.
It's the closest we really got to a new Secret of Mana game. I really enjoy it too. I've never tried linking gameboys before but is it possible to play that game with two players with one cartridge?

Chumbawumba4ever97
Dec 31, 2000

by Fluffdaddy

StellarX posted:

It's the closest we really got to a new Secret of Mana game. I really enjoy it too. I've never tried linking gameboys before but is it possible to play that game with two players with one cartridge?

I don't believe any GBA games ever supported that (the DS was the first system I remember having that feature and even then it was very limited).

SUPER HASSLER
Jan 31, 2005

Miyamotos RGB NES posted:

I don't believe any GBA games ever supported that (the DS was the first system I remember having that feature and even then it was very limited).

Some GBA games did, like Chu Chu Rocket for example, but either way Sword of Mana has no "real" multiplayer; just some stupid item swapping stuff.

Also Sword of Mana sucks. I reviewed it for 1up so I can say so.

Cicero
Dec 17, 2003

Jumpjet, melta, jumpjet. Repeat for ten minutes or until victory is assured.
At least one of the Bombermans also supported single-cart multiplayer.

Chumbawumba4ever97
Dec 31, 2000

by Fluffdaddy
drat; had no idea the GBA was that advanced.

Hey, let's talk about the most useless Nintendo technology: the IR port on the Gameboy Color. Was there ever anything even remotely useful used with that?

Even worse was the "wireless link cable" Nintendo released for the GBA...because it only worked for games made for it :psyduck:

Michael Carnage
Nov 7, 2004

To find the light you must embrace the darkness.

Katana Gomai posted:

How much was that? I plan on buying one when I am in Japan and I'd like to know what's a fair price.

It was about $31ish so not that bad and it's not something you find laying about.

Null of Undefined
Aug 4, 2010

I have used 41 of 300 characters allowed.

Miyamotos RGB NES posted:

drat; had no idea the GBA was that advanced.

Hey, let's talk about the most useless Nintendo technology: the IR port on the Gameboy Color. Was there ever anything even remotely useful used with that?

Even worse was the "wireless link cable" Nintendo released for the GBA...because it only worked for games made for it :psyduck:

They used that IR port for the Pokemon Trading Card Game. You pretty much had to lay both gameboys flat on a table, with the ports facing, and not move them at all. I don't see why they couldn't have just used the loving link cable. Everyone had one.

kirbysuperstar
Nov 11, 2012

Let the fools who stand before us be destroyed by the power you and I possess.

Miyamotos RGB NES posted:

Hey, let's talk about the most useless Nintendo technology: the IR port on the Gameboy Color. Was there ever anything even remotely useful used with that?

Mystery Gift in Pokemon Gold/Silver/Crystal. Well, until you got Pokemon Stadium 2 and sat there for hours Mystery Gift-ing and changing the clock, anyway.

absolutely anything
Dec 28, 2006

~As for dreams, she has enough and more to spare~

kirbysuperstar posted:

Mystery Gift in Pokemon Gold/Silver/Crystal. Well, until you got Pokemon Stadium 2 and sat there for hours Mystery Gift-ing and changing the clock, anyway.

Also Card Pop in Pokemon TCG and sending stuff from your Pokemon Pikachu 2 to Gold/Silver/Crystal. Basically it was the Pokemon port.

Hyper Big Breasts
May 14, 2006

Miyamotos RGB NES posted:

Hey, let's talk about the most useless Nintendo technology: the IR port on the Gameboy Color. Was there ever anything even remotely useful used with that?

Mission: Impossible for GBC has a function to copy, save, and reuse IR signals. I don't even remember playing the actual game, we just always used it as a silly prank remote control. Totally worth it.

kirbysuperstar
Nov 11, 2012

Let the fools who stand before us be destroyed by the power you and I possess.

Evila posted:

Mission: Impossible for GBC has a function to copy, save, and reuse IR signals. I don't even remember playing the actual game, we just always used it as a silly prank remote control. Totally worth it.

That's actually pretty darn cool.

Midnight Raider
Apr 26, 2010

Things like the Pokemon Mystery Gifting are a bit bittersweet to me, since while one can still play retro games themselves these days, certain circumstantial gimmicks like that aren't exactly something most of us will get a chance to experience again. (Or ever, for those that missed it.) I suspect the odds aren't high for two different people playing Pokemon Generation 2 at the same time both on Game Boy Colors to live near each other in this day and age. :v:

Evila posted:

Mission: Impossible for GBC has a function to copy, save, and reuse IR signals. I don't even remember playing the actual game, we just always used it as a silly prank remote control. Totally worth it.

I can't believe I hadn't heard of that until now. I might have tried to score the game in a bargain bin years ago just to have a cute gimmick like that.

Safari Disco Lion
Jul 21, 2011

Boss, if they make us find seven lost crystals, I'm quitting.

wixard posted:

If you download his info packet (linked from the youtube video) it's really about as basic as you could hope for in terms of a really functional project to get your feet wet. He spells everything out, complete with part numbers from a German electronics distributor and offers good diagrams and pictures of the parts crammed into the controller bodies. Looks like it would be about ~$50 per controller (mostly for the RF units) to buy the parts, and you'd have to invest in a USB interface to flash the microprocessors yourself (although he provides all the code to flash them with).

I think there must be a way to alter that build so you don't have to flash a microprocessor and could make d-pad controllers where the cable basically just becomes RF, because I'm guessing translating a bunch of basic switch inputs to transmit wirelessly is a pretty common application. Seems like it could not interpret the inputs at all, just wire the pins right at each end and voila, but I don't know if you can buy cheap components that do that. You'd lose the ability to make the controllers cross-platform, and analog sticks might be out the window, but that wouldn't be a huge deal to me personally.

If your goal is a setup where you have a lot of consoles, the cross-platform thing probably means figuring out how to program the processors from scratch for anything but NES, SNES, N64 and Saturn, since that's all the info he gives. It also limits you to 2 simultaneous controllers at any given time if all the receivers can only choose from the same 2 channels, whereas you could probably find chips tuned slightly differently for each console and use them all at the same time if you didn't worry about the cross-platform thing. I imagine most of us only play 1 console at a time, but if you ever have multiple consoles out as party favors or something wireless controllers would be extra-convenient.

I'm not much of a DIY electronics guy yet though, haven't done anything more complex than making my own arcade controller and fixing cables. Maybe someone else can chime in with whether that makes any sense.

I haven't looked at his info yet but this is pretty cool sounding now. My soldering iron is kind of crappy (it's one of those cheap ones with a tip WAY too big to do any fine work) and I'm broke right now, but maybe after I have the cash to get the parts and a new iron I'll give this a shot. I don't really care about cross-platform either, at least yet, so I'll experiment with a SNES controller first or something.

Panic Restaurant
Jul 19, 2006

:retrogames: :3: :retrogames:



Pork Pro

Quidnose posted:

Secret Santa gift sent out today! Hopefully will be there next week sometime. Enjoy your gift, Santee!


Mine went out this morning as well! Can't wait for it to arrive!

AMISH FRIED PIES
Mar 6, 2009

by Nyc_Tattoo

Asbrandt posted:

EDIT: Something else worth mentioning for the OP is that for the Model 2 Sega Genesis, the full-board is not automatically bad.
According to Ace, a VA2 or 2.3 with some modding has sound better than the short-board VA4, while having nice video if you get one with the CXA1645 encoder.

From the Sega-16 thread already linked in the op is this, regarding the VA2 / 2.3:


For reference and completeness sake, you look down the cartridge slot to determine a full-board's revision:
VA2: http://i.imgur.com/lPTAk.jpg?1
VA2.3: http://i.imgur.com/sMEBf.jpg

The hard part is getting that Sony encoder, as not even "Made in China" is a 100% sign of it, while the VA4 always has it.

This is great news for me, as I have a full-board model 2. I'm hopeful it has the Sony encoder because this is my second model 2 and it puts out a much better picture than my first.

EDIT: Does not match, looks like I have a VA1. :saddowns:

AMISH FRIED PIES fucked around with this message at 13:07 on Dec 13, 2012

geetee
Feb 2, 2004

>;[
I won a Marvel vs Capcom 2 cabinet at auction earlier in the month from a Nathan's that was getting torn down. I'm in the process of taking the cabinet apart so I can clean and refinish it. Naturally, problems arise and I'm completely new to this.

The monitor won't come out! Worse, it seems they jury rigged it. The monitor looks like it was replaced around 2004, likely with something bigger than it had previously because the back panel barely closes.

The tube is not bolted to the frame and the frame is not bolted to the wood. It won't budge even though it's just chilling there with nothing seemingly holding it in. Attempting to pull it out with substantial force just moves the entire cabinet.

Once I get the monitor loose, there will be a new problem. The top frame is missing, so the vertical bars in the back are not attached on top. It seems everyone uses those bars as a handle when removing the monitor. Mine are just hanging loose like two upside-down dongs. I have no idea how I'll get this beast to the ground without the neck snapping and enjoying a CRT implode inches from my face.

Any suggestions? How can I buy a new top frame that will fit? I've tried Googling the model number with minimal success. Below are a bunch of pictures that hopefully will help explain the situation.

Thanks for any help!

Bottom front-right:


Top front-right:


Top back-left (notice there is no top frame):


Bottom back-right:


Monitor chassis (those vertical bars are not connected to anything):


Samsung A68QCP891X002:


Before it was taken apart (looks much cleaner than it was):


edit: Just noticed the sticker on the back of the monitor chassis. Will glean that for info tomorrow.

geetee fucked around with this message at 05:57 on Dec 13, 2012

fatpat268
Jan 6, 2011
Speaking of pokemon, why in the hell are they go for so much. I see stuff like pokemon yellow going for 30 on ebay all the time. The pokemon games are some of the most common games at the time. If you were a kid and had a gameboy that you played, it was almost guaranteed you had pokemon. There isn't some sort of faux shortage here either.

In the grand scheme of things, they're cheap compared to some of the high priced snes games, it's just that unless it's something super rare, I have a hard time spending anything more than $10 on a gb game.

Lepecard
May 19, 2009
Soiled Meat
It arrived last week but now i'm finally here to open my Secret Santa's gift!



YES! Mutant League Football has the poster!

Can't wait to play Pokemon Pinball and actually finish Mischief Makers and Kirby's Dream Land.

I believe those are Nintendo bookmarks? I haven't opened them yet.

All in all this was a great surprise!

Oh, and they even drew a nice treasure chest on the package!


Tomorrow i'll be able to mail my Santee's gift.

I just didn't realize how difficult it is to make small enough Santa hats for spiders...

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Keyboard Kid
Sep 12, 2006

If you stay here too long, you'll end up frying your brain. Yes, you will. No, you will...not. Yesno, you will won't.

fatpat268 posted:

Speaking of pokemon, why in the hell are they go for so much. I see stuff like pokemon yellow going for 30 on ebay all the time. The pokemon games are some of the most common games at the time. If you were a kid and had a gameboy that you played, it was almost guaranteed you had pokemon. There isn't some sort of faux shortage here either.

In the grand scheme of things, they're cheap compared to some of the high priced snes games, it's just that unless it's something super rare, I have a hard time spending anything more than $10 on a gb game.

Popularity's got nothing to do with rarity here, retro game prices are on the rise (for various reasons; mostly kids who grew up with them now have money). Same reason why common N64 games go in the same price range. Pokemon in particular has always been extremely popular, and Yellow is the 'definitive' generation 1 game. Stores know that these items will sell in that price range, and people who want the games for themselves/to sell buy all the cheap copies.

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