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Oxygen Deficiency posted:Super High-School Level Luck? They do. Naegi was born in Feburary and was 1.6m tall like Calaveron said.
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Pointless insights aside, glad to see the return of pixelated students. Might be a bit of a spoilery thought, but have you seen any merchandise featuring sprites of the cast yet Onenronen?
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Oh, for - they’re doing this deliberately, aren’t they?!
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loquacius posted:My only question is if Hinata was such a SHSL Hope's Peak Academy Fanboy, why wasn't he reading the same message boards Naegi and Nagito were? I mean, obviously some pretty crazy poo poo happened to his memory; maybe he did and just can't remember? He probably wasn't actually obsessed with the school. If you go back and reread the first update, his introductory monologue starts to break up when he gets around to talking about how he has always revered the school, and it repeats it a few times fading out. quote:
My guess is that this is indicative of some kind of false memory, or brainwashing, or something along those lines. He already can't remember what his talent is, so it seems fair that there's been something going on with him.
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I have one and only one reason for coming to Hope's Peak Academy. I revere this school.
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Well, he doesn't seem quite the same as our Super High-School Level Luck, at least. (Wonder if the staff picked up on their names being anagrams. Clearly these are lucky letters!)
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Oxygen Deficiency posted:Super High-School Level Luck? Keep in mind that according to him there's a SHSL luck every single year, so it's not like Naegi is a super special snowflake.
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orenronen posted:
Very happy to see this. Since the first update I was worried this'd be a case of an end game scene appearing early on to draw the reader in, which would mean Nagito would be guaranteed to survive until it happened. Those sorts of scenes are okay when you're not likely to go back over them, I guess, but in this LP format it'd give too much away.
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Dec 14, 2012 14:49
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Can you hear me...?
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Like Fedule noticed, they're definately trying to make us think Nagito is Naegi, and giving us all the evidence to point it that way. 1.) voice actor 2.) name 3.) SHSL skill 4.) appearence 5.) Way of arriving to the school. However there is some evidence that goes against it 1.) Personality 2.) Probably the way of speaking in japanese 3.) Height 4.) Birthday My answer? This is simply a Red Herring type thing and the game developers are playing with us. " Hey, wait, is that-" Fredule might've noticed something small in either the image or the japanese that they know. probably the first. I like that, because it's interesting to see someone else make a note of things as they go. Orenronen has already played through this game, probably, and isn't going to have the same ZOMG that Fredule will have. I like Blind LPs like that. Hinata's an A Blood Type and Nagito's an O... O are Intuitive, doubtful, and unpredictable according to Japan and A shows an obsession with detail, Patience, and Reason. Sounds like a good dynamic. HangedManArcana fucked around with this message at 14:54 on Dec 14, 2012 |
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Kytrarewn posted:Serious question for translation chat with Orenronen/Fedule- How did you happen to decide on "target" for the targeting circle, rather then "reticule" or "cursor"? It was a serious and deliberate and extremely well justified decision and absolutely not a total oversight which is now being corrected. At all. Good on you for possessing the necessary skills to perceive my immaculate reasoning process!
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I'm really sorry if I missed it but is Usami's name some kind of pun? I get that usagi means rabbit. This game continues being as stylish as the first, I really like it. The sprites are adorable and if that's a tamagotchi then wow.
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HangedManArcana posted:Like Fedule noticed, they're definately trying to make us think Nagito is Naegi, and giving us all the evidence to point it that way. This is most definitely what the developers were planning. It's far to obvious to players of the first game, especially given their devotion to well-known voice actors so far. Normally i'd ignore things like different heights but I think it's fair to call Spike out on their poo poo. Hopefully there won't be too many more "hints" after this. Still have no idea what they are planning with Fatogami though.
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dog days are over posted:I'm really sorry if I missed it but is Usami's name some kind of pun? I get that usagi means rabbit. It's a small pun. Usami is a normal Japanese given name, which as you said, sounds like Usagi. Her other name, Monomi, so far as I'm aware isn't a normal name, but "-mi" is a typical pattern for Japanese girl's names. For an English comparison, it'd be something like "Mononique."
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Saeku posted:It's a small pun. Usami is a normal Japanese given name, which as you said, sounds like Usagi. ...There are some more things to say about Usami's name, but they will have to wait for a cultural note in a later update.
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Does this mean this time we unlock a new island after each murder solved, instead of a new floor? CommissarMega posted:Perhaps THIS is the incident they were trying to cover up? That with who knows how many Super-Grown Up Talented People they could call upon, they could now genetically and/or psychologically engineer SHSL kids? The thought of some cabal of hyper-talented people creating more hyper-talented people guaranteed to rule the world certainly wouldn't sit well with me. ...I like this idea. It certainly fits with the "Hope's Peak Academy's faculty members are much like parents, who made it their life’s mission to find talent and nurture it in their children" ideology mentioned in the second DR0 update, just taken to a (debatably well-intentioned) extreme. Not to mention the tamagotchi minigame we've suddenly gained; engineered SHSL Hopes engineering their own hopes. Symbolism! 
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I really like the direction this game is taking. It's being extremely self aware with regards to people's prior expectations to the point whether I have no idea if Nagito is just a coincidentally similar character or an incredibly sophisticated double bluff where he actually is Naegi, but it's so obvious you don't think they'd do it. I'm leaning towards the former though - it's to be expected that there would be another SHSL Good Luck, especially if there was a class who arrived at Hope's Peak after the first group, but before the Despair incident. Also it looks like the gameplay mechanics will be a bit more in depth this time, what with measuring relationship values and how hopeful/despairing you are. I'm hoping this will actually affect the plot, rather than just representing event flags for character conversations.
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I know Nagito is not Naegi. Just compare their eyes and you can tell the difference.CommissarMega posted:Perhaps THIS is the incident they were trying to cover up? That with who knows how many Super-Grown Up Talented People they could call upon, they could now genetically and/or psychologically engineer SHSL kids? The thought of some cabal of hyper-talented people creating more hyper-talented people guaranteed to rule the world certainly wouldn't sit well with me. It could also explain why there's a Naegi-alike, who's still not the Naegi we all know- perhaps the guy in charge of the project didn't have SHSL Naming Skills. From the tone of Kirigiri, it sounds like they are covering up a pretty sudden accident rather than a scheme that has been running for a long time. Perhaps one of their Super Students went berserk and committed the murders as Naegi and co. discovered in DR1? That would fit the "I didn't kill them" line from Junko as well.
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If this is set after the first Dangan Ronpa, I'd guess that Hope's Peak became interested in researching luck because Naegi proved to be so remarkable. Naegi's invitation said, 'This year, we decided to accept one student chosen by lottery from among each and every one of the country's regular high school students' - the 'This year' implies to me that this was something they hadn't done before.orenronen posted:
This interests me because optimism was presented from the beginning as Naegi's defining trait. Apart from the height, I'd say this is the biggest difference we've seen so far between Naegi and Nagito. That doesn't completely preclude the possibility that Nagito is Naegi - I suppose going through the events of the first game would probably give anyone's optimism a knock - but personally I think they're different people. (Although that may just be wishful thinking, because I like Naegi and I want him to have escaped all this.)
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Ah, I'm sorry... I can't help having some negative feelings. It's a bad habit of mine.
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It's good to see they've made improvements and added features to the sequel despite the core gameplay and idea being the same as before. Personally I'm going to avoid speculating overmuch, going into the whole thing with an open mind makes it a lot more enjoyable in my opinion. Though I must say I'm going to be really amused if Togami survives this game as well, despite being even more obviously doomed than he was in the previous one. E: Why is that rabbit's theme so drat catchy 
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People analyzing the differences and similarities between Naegi and Komaeda are overlooking an important similarity: both of them are clearly the heroine.
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Ahahaa. So, Nagito isn't Naegi, he's just someone like him in almost every way. This is great. Also of note: The map's menu icon strongly implies that this island features a volcano. Fun!
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I still stand by my belief that this does take place after the first Dangan Ronpa, maybe a few years or so afterwards, and that Naegi and Nagito are different people (I know you all have crazy theories but you have factual evidence such as different birthdays and the drastic height change that can only really be explained by absurd things). Although I was hoping Nagito wasn't Naegi from the start anyway because I like Naegi and I don't want him to die ): I don't think the DR developers would pull another Maizono, at least not blatantly like that, but who knows. Personally I don't think Nagito is going to live but it doesn't feel like he would die so early (I mean he IS SHSL Good Luck right ???) None of this explains why Togami is still here though but I guess we'll figure that out eventually Benly posted:People analyzing the differences and similarities between Naegi and Komaeda are overlooking an important similarity: both of them are clearly the heroine.
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Considering all the little similarities between Naegi and Nagito, I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that the writers are trying to subvert expectations by making us think that Nagito is going to be one of the final cast. My guess is that Nagito is going to either kill someone or end up murdered in the first case. I also think that the writers are trying really hard to make everyone think that Nagito is Naegi when he's actually not.
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Slash_Prower posted:Considering all the little similarities between Naegi and Nagito, I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that the writers are trying to subvert expectations by making us think that Nagito is going to be one of the final cast. My guess is that Nagito is going to either kill someone or end up murdered in the first case. I also think that the writers are trying really hard to make everyone think that Nagito is Naegi when he's actually not. Except they just outed him as not being Naegi by virtue of being more cynical and negative then Naegi.
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Saeku posted:Looks like Nagito is super-optimistic, too. Everything we've seen so far is consistent with an older or somehow alternate Naegi. However... I have to echo this. I saw this pose and anime's doing this pose is never good. I'm not sure if it's because he's being so forceful but that dude has me crazy uneasy. I'm wondering if this is how Naegi came off in the first game to everyone else.
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Can I make a suggestion, oren? It's hard to see the symbol for voiced-dialogue most of the time. I've missed nearly every one so far, only spotting it on second read-throughs. Maybe putting the symbol before the text would be better? Maybe even before the character icon for full visibility?
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ThisIsACoolGuy posted:I have to echo this. I saw this pose and anime's doing this pose is never good.
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Okay I'm going to continue this LP with the fact that Nagito isn't Naegi. With that out of way, the fact that the school invited SHSL Good Luck people every year makes me come to the conclusion that this cast of students are upperclassmen to the DR1 cast!(besides Togami I guess) Junko in the first game said that Naegi and co. only spent one year in their school year at Hope Academy and then another year at the locked school, so that would mean that Naegi should be the last SHSL Luck the school invited. Of course this is only based on the fact that Nagito isn't Naegi. Also yeah Nagito appears to have a difernt personality than Naegi. Also if he keeps hanging out with us maybe Togami isn't doomed....yay! getitoffgetitoff posted:Even if Nagito isn't Naegi, there has to be some sort of (in-universe) explanation to the similarities. I'd be a little disappointed if it's just the writers loving with us. IceBorg fucked around with this message at 16:19 on Dec 14, 2012 |
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Even if Nagito isn't Naegi, there has to be some sort of (in-universe) explanation to the similarities. I'd be a little disappointed if it's just the writers loving with us.
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Benly posted:People analyzing the differences and similarities between Naegi and Komaeda are overlooking an important similarity: both of them are clearly the heroine. I was thinking Ogata was playing Kaworu instead of Shinji this time, but that works too.
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getitoffgetitoff posted:Even if Nagito isn't Naegi, there has to be some sort of (in-universe) explanation to the similarities. I'd be a little disappointed if it's just the writers loving with us. I'm the complete opposite, there doesn't really need to be an in-universe reason for why two characters could look alike, although there could be a narrative one.
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orenronen posted:
Does this mean we'll get to see more group conversations during exploration phases? I approve of this development.
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Anyway, why not look around yourself, and make your introductions while you’re at it?
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Sex_Ferguson posted:I'm the complete opposite, there doesn't really need to be an in-universe reason for why two characters could look alike, although there could be a narrative one. Look alike, wear similar clothes, have similar names, both won the SHSL lottery. I'd say that there is going to be a in-universe reason for all that.
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Good thing the character art is starting to go up, I couldn't remember anyone's name in DR1.
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IceBorg posted:With that out of way, the fact that the school invited SHSL Good Luck people every year makes me come to the conclusion that this cast of students are upperclassmen to the DR1 cast!(besides Togami I guess) From what I remember of the last trial of DR1, I'm pretty sure Naegi et al. were there for 2 years before The Most Despairing Event happened. Naegi's invite made it sound like he was the first SHSL-Luck too, so I think that either Komaeda said it's an annual thing to cover his tracks (if he is Naegi incognito) or ever since Naegi got in, it was intended to be an annual thing after all and Komaeda got the second/last Luck invite. So, either way, it's certainly possible for these guys to be the DR1 cast's underclassmen; upper seems like too much of a stretch right now. Really, though, Togami's existence here is a pretty noticable issue with either but I expect that to be resolved later.
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Sex_Ferguson posted:It's almost definitely the writers loving with you, there doesn't really need to be an in-universe reason for why two characters could look alike, although there could be a narrative one. I dunno. It just feels to me that having a "hint" like that and then not explaining it (which essentially means it was just a coincidence, in-universe) is kinda lazy. Especially in a detective story like DR, where a big part of the experience is trying to figure out the mystery on your own.
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Hmmm, the pet has a place for Hope and Despair? The Hope rabbit has no intention of us killing each-other? Why do I get the feeling that Mono-bear is going to pop in and have a Hope versus Despair war? If that's the case, then it would explain why Togami and Naegi are here. They're undercover. Although, it's possible that this isn't a sequel and this happened during the time-skip in the last game. Those are Togami and Naegi (well, the real Naegi, and the other one was a clone...) and this is what sparked the incident in the last game. Also, did anyone notice that in the video that had all the splash pages with the characters, that everyone got their own page except the cook and not-Naegi? (They were on the same screen.)
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getitoffgetitoff posted:I dunno. It just feels to me that having a "hint" like that and then not explaining it (which essentially means it was just a coincidence, in-universe) is kinda lazy. Especially in a detective story like DR, where a big part of the experience is trying to figure out the mystery on your own. Something I don't think has been brought up. If Nagito's the new Naegi, doesn't that make us the new Kirigiri? Hajime Hinata is an alliterative name, just like Kyouko Kirigiri. I think there might be connections (besides Togami), but I think this is a stylistic method of making the sequel have familiar-feeling characters, which it couldn't otherwise do because, well, most of the DR cast is dead.
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getitoffgetitoff posted:I dunno. It just feels to me that having a "hint" like that and then not explaining it (which essentially means it was just a coincidence, in-universe) is kinda lazy. Especially in a detective story like DR, where a big part of the experience is trying to figure out the mystery on your own. As was said, there could be a narrative reason for the similarities. I mean, if Nagito is Naegi or not he is pretty clearly meant deliberately to evoke Naegi and in a mystery novel like this, you don't include details like that unless it is important (a red herring also counts as an important detail).
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fool_of_sound posted:Look alike, wear similar clothes, have similar names, both won the SHSL lottery. I'd say that there is going to be a in-universe reason for all that. Like Hinata was getting at, if they did a lottery every year, then someone would have to win. The simiar clothing thing isn't that hard, since neither has a distinct outfit. They just both have "green hoodies"... it would be a much bigger connection if they both dressed like say...Leon. (Safety pins~) Lookin alike... Nagito is about a foot taller, and has a different hair and eye color, and hair style. Just, again, they're both sort of generic looking beyond the anime factor. And the names... just because it's an anagram, doesn't mean it's similar. they sound very different when pronounced.
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