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Fried Chicken
Jan 9, 2011

Don't fry me, I'm no chicken!
Finished Betrayer. Holy cow is that good. Angron went from being "angry man who is son ANGRY" to a tragic and in some lights heroic figure, hated and abused by everyone.

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VanSandman
Feb 16, 2011
SWAP.AVI EXCHANGER

Fried Chicken posted:

Finished Betrayer. Holy cow is that good. Angron went from being "angry man who is son ANGRY" to a tragic and in some lights heroic figure, hated and abused by everyone.

A lot of the Primarchs seemed to be doomed from the start. Curze and Angron especially. I wonder if we'll ever get an apocryphal story or two about the missing two legions? I wouldn't mind seeing just what made the Emperor declare two of his own sons Primarcha non grata.

Shroud
May 11, 2009

VanSandman posted:

A lot of the Primarchs seemed to be doomed from the start. Curze and Angron especially. I wonder if we'll ever get an apocryphal story or two about the missing two legions? I wouldn't mind seeing just what made the Emperor declare two of his own sons Primarcha non grata.

Worst part is that 9 of them decided to up and go to war against him, but their names weren't struck from the record. So what the hell did the first two guys do?

Mechafunkzilla
Sep 11, 2006

If you want a vision of the future...

Shroud posted:

Worst part is that 9 of them decided to up and go to war against him, but their names weren't struck from the record. So what the hell did the first two guys do?

They were pacifists.

bunnyofdoom
Mar 29, 2008

I've been here the whole time, and you're not my real Dad! :emo:
They stole his booze?

Azran
Sep 3, 2012

And what should one do to be remembered?
They started to write fanfiction about their brothers! :v: Such a heresy can't go unpunished.

Serious question, now: There's been only two new books for Gaunt's Ghosts ever since the Third Omnibus, right? I had heard somewhere the 4th one was going to be called "The Victory".

Arquinsiel
Jun 1, 2006

"There is no such thing as society. There are individual men and women, and there are families. And no government can do anything except through people, and people must look to themselves first."

God Bless Margaret Thatcher
God Bless England
RIP My Iron Lady

Shroud posted:

Worst part is that 9 of them decided to up and go to war against him, but their names weren't struck from the record. So what the hell did the first two guys do?
My pet theory is that they mutated enough to make Magnus and Sanguinius look pretty okay.

Neurosis
Jun 10, 2003
Fallen Rib

Mechafunkzilla posted:

They were pacifists.

This would be cool.

PrBacterio
Jul 19, 2000

Mechafunkzilla posted:

They were pacifists.
This makes a frightening amount of sense, come to think of it :gonk:

EyeRChris
Mar 3, 2010

Intergalactic, all-planetary, everything super-supreme champion
I got lucky today. I braved a trip to the mall and the Barnes and Nobel there had 1 copy of Blood Reaver and Void Stalker. Considering that its like 25+ on amazon getting them for 8.99 is a win for me.

ed balls balls man
Apr 17, 2006
Are the Salamanders books decent or just generic marine trash? the eBundle is tempting but i'm trying to avoid bolter porn.

Mechafunkzilla
Sep 11, 2006

If you want a vision of the future...

ed balls balls man posted:

Are the Salamanders books decent or just generic marine trash? the eBundle is tempting but i'm trying to avoid bolter porn.

They're horrible. Not actually the worst writing in the world or particularly generic, but it has the most annoying and unlike-able characters ever.

PrBacterio
Jul 19, 2000

Mechafunkzilla posted:

They're horrible. Not actually the worst writing in the world or particularly generic, but it has the most annoying and unlike-able characters ever.
Aren't the salamanders supposed to be the "likeable" Space Marine chapter though? :geno:

Lily Catts
Oct 17, 2012

Show me the way to you
(Heavy Metal)
The Salamanders books were my first books. There are two main characters, Dak'ir and Tsu'gan. Dak'ir is the good guy, who embodies the Salamanders' spirit of protecting the people of the Imperium. Tsu'gan, however, has a stick up his rear end, and hates Dak'ir. My problem with the series was that Tsu'gan kept getting more spotlight than Dak'ir, who became a walking MacGuffin and spent the rest of the last book confined in a prison.

There's also a Chaplain whose face nobody has ever seen and is suspected to be hideously ugly, but is revealed to be the most handsome fellow in the Chapter upon taking off his helmet. Yeah.

It has okay bolter porn. First book is Marines vs orcs, second book is Marines vs dark eldar, third book is about Nocturne fighting a major Chaos invasion.

Lovely Joe Stalin
Jun 12, 2007

Our Lovely Wang

ed balls balls man posted:

Are the Salamanders books decent or just generic marine trash? the eBundle is tempting but i'm trying to avoid bolter porn.

Unreadably poo poo.

a shitty king
Mar 26, 2010

Rapey Joe Stalin posted:

Unreadably poo poo.

Yeah I've posted about it before but there's a linked pair of short stories, one about Salamanders Terminators on a Space Hulk, and one about ADB's Night Lords on the same Hulk, and they kind of cross over and link. Putting them next to one anther highlights how laughably poo poo Kyme is next to Bowden.

Sephyr
Aug 28, 2012
Probation
Can't post for 4 hours!

Fried Chicken posted:

Finished Betrayer. Holy cow is that good. Angron went from being "angry man who is son ANGRY" to a tragic and in some lights heroic figure, hated and abused by everyone.

Very much this. I particularly liked his retort to Russ after he gets the whole "You're a loose cannon and I want your badge" spiel. Not what I expected at all but makes a ton of sense.

Angron's statement that he only agreed to fight for the Emperor _because_ he is a damaged butcher, and that should he not have a murder engine hooked to his grey matter the moral thing to do would be to put a blade through the Emperor's skull in their very first meeting adds a lot of depth to his character, not to mention highlighting the whole 'grimdark Spartacus' aspect of the primarch.

ed balls balls man
Apr 17, 2006
Cheers for the feedback, guess I will start on my backlog of Heresy books.

Agentdark
Dec 30, 2007
Mom says I'm the best painter she's ever seen. Jealous much? :hehe:

Mechafunkzilla posted:

They were pacifists.

Imperium arrives on a planet, discovers that its reasonably at peace. The Emperor can however feel one of his long lost sons is on the planet.
He looks around and finds him

He plays Major League Sports.

The other was in middle management or something

VanSandman
Feb 16, 2011
SWAP.AVI EXCHANGER

Agentdark posted:

Imperium arrives on a planet, discovers that its reasonably at peace. The Emperor can however feel one of his long lost sons is on the planet.
He looks around and finds him

He plays Major League Sports.

The other was in middle management or something

"Jenkins! I want that report by Friday or you're fired!"

Jenkins pondered briefly how he could crush his boss' bald head with the tiniest squeeze from his massive palm, and then went back to filing.

bunnyofdoom
Mar 29, 2008

I've been here the whole time, and you're not my real Dad! :emo:
Jenkins vastly misunderstood what a corporate raider was. It took the janitorial staff 3 days to get the blood off the cubicle walls.

Shroud
May 11, 2009
Jenkins made the fatal mistake of telling the Emperor he wouldn't join the crusade until his pension was fully vested.

bunnyofdoom
Mar 29, 2008

I've been here the whole time, and you're not my real Dad! :emo:
Jenkins gathered together a mighty horde of project teams and focus and led them into the lair of the dreaded accounting to ask about their 401ks

VanSandman
Feb 16, 2011
SWAP.AVI EXCHANGER

bunnyofdoom posted:

Jenkins gathered together a mighty horde of project teams and focus and led them into the lair of the dreaded accounting to ask about their 401ks

"Even in death, I still serve process." - Jenkin's Dreadnaught Lawyer

EyeRChris
Mar 3, 2010

Intergalactic, all-planetary, everything super-supreme champion
Well lets look at the personality aspects of the known primarchs and pick which ones are lacking. I figure one of the lost primarchs was an inventor. The Scientist aspect of the Emperor. He created his world into a Utopia that surpasses the Imperium and had tech that made the tech of mars look like childs play. After the Emperor showed that by absorbing it he'd ruin the world the Primarch made he rebelled for the good of his people. The entire planet and all its tech was crushed under the weight of 3 legions.

The other cheated Russ in cards.

Fuzzy Pipe Wrench
Nov 5, 2008

MAYBE DON'T STEAL BEER FROM GOONS?

CHEERS!
(FUCK YOU)

EyeRChris posted:

The other cheated Russ in cards.

If we're going with the primarchs each being an aspect of the Emperor then one of them is probably a really bad father and managed to take over his planet and then get everyone killed.

Mr.48
May 1, 2007

bunnyofdoom posted:

Jenkins vastly misunderstood what a corporate raider was. It took the janitorial staff 3 days to get the blood off the cubicle walls.

I immediately thought of the Crimson Permanent Assurance.

http://vimeo.com/32014997

Mechafunkzilla
Sep 11, 2006

If you want a vision of the future...

Fuzzy Pipe Wrench posted:

If we're going with the primarchs each being an aspect of the Emperor then one of them is probably a really bad father and managed to take over his planet and then get everyone killed.

And the other was the Emperor's aspect of being a huge loving idiot who does everything wrong.

Neurosis
Jun 10, 2003
Fallen Rib
The Thunder Warriors guy was the scientist. He wasn't as directly related to the Emperor but he figured out the genetics pretty well.

Guilliman already has administration and lawyering covered.

Mechafunkzilla
Sep 11, 2006

If you want a vision of the future...
The two lost primarchs didn't get their painting oaths done on time.

Lily Catts
Oct 17, 2012

Show me the way to you
(Heavy Metal)
John French wrote an Ahriman book. I... just... wow.

Arbite
Nov 4, 2009





I don't know who John French is, but considering they just put this out with zero marketing and are trying to get ebook buys this early I don't have a good feeling about this.

I hope I'm wrong, Ahriman's story is one of the best of the chaos characters.

ed balls balls man
Apr 17, 2006
Rob Sanders book featuring Ahriman wasn't bad, surprised they never gave him a shot at it.

Big Willy Style
Feb 11, 2007

How many Astartes do you know that roll like this?
I got halfway throught the first story in The Primarchs and it loving sucks and has sapped all of my will to read rest of the anthology. Should I continue?

Nephilm
Jun 11, 2009

by Lowtax

Big Willy Style posted:

I got halfway throught the first story in The Primarchs and it loving sucks and has sapped all of my will to read rest of the anthology. Should I continue?

Read the Alpha Legion story and forget the rest of the book. The only thing of relevance is a "reveal" in the Fulgrim story but here it is so you don't have to read through that piece of poo poo: he got out of the painting and back into his body.

Gooses and Geeses
Jan 1, 2005

OH GOD WHY DIDN'T I LISTEN?
I loved that story :(

Nephilm
Jun 11, 2009

by Lowtax
I, too, enjoy stories of men being hosed in the rear end by spiked dildoes in a charade of torture techniques that never actually existed, but never with my warhams.

Mechafunkzilla
Sep 11, 2006

If you want a vision of the future...
I'd really, really like to have a sit-down with Graham McNeill and find out what the hell he was thinking when he wrote that story.

Safety Factor
Oct 31, 2009




Grimey Drawer
:wtc:
This happened in a 40k book?

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Lily Catts
Oct 17, 2012

Show me the way to you
(Heavy Metal)

Arbite posted:

I don't know who John French is, but considering they just put this out with zero marketing and are trying to get ebook buys this early I don't have a good feeling about this.

I hope I'm wrong, Ahriman's story is one of the best of the chaos characters.

He wrote some good short stories (The Last Remembrancer) and novellas (The Crimson Fist).

Safety Factor posted:

:wtc:
This happened in a 40k book?

Emperor's Children.

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