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swagger like us
Oct 27, 2005

Don't mind me. We must protect rapists and misogynists from harm. If they're innocent they must not be named. Surely they'll never harm their sleeping, female patients. Watch me defend this in great detail. I am not a mens rights activist either.

MA-Horus posted:

I personally think that the idea of "sports nights" on parade nights is silly, and should be replaced with a mandatory PT night once per month.

If you skip it, it's noted. A very easy way to find out who's pulling their weight, and who's not.

Ugh. No. My mo unit does this every parade night and its stupid. Look, PT, especially for a reservist, is something you have to do on your own time. All it does is annoy those of us who stay in shape, and frustrate those out of shape. And its usually some stupid loving Crossfit poo poo because my OC is a crossfit koolaid drinker.

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Samu
Jan 11, 2010

The only thing I hate more than hippie neo-liberal fascists and anarchists are the hypocrite fat cat suits they grow up to become.
Filthy reservist nonsenes? No way, 1 CER get's sports afternoon every wednesday. I'm pretty sure the PPCLI doesn't do anything except play sports. If you took away our sports I'm pretty sure 1CMBG would go on strike.

Ultimate Shrek Fan
May 2, 2005

by FactsAreUseless

Samu posted:

Filthy reservist nonsenes? No way, 1 CER get's sports afternoon every wednesday. I'm pretty sure the PPCLI doesn't do anything except play sports. If you took away our sports I'm pretty sure 1CMBG would go on strike.

I meant the sportsnight. 1RCHA had sport days every wednesday. Cleaning the clean guns and sweeping the warehouse floors. Then an hour of soccer, dodgeball, or floor hockey.

MA-Horus
Dec 3, 2006

I'm sorry, I can't hear you over the sound of how awesome I am.

swagger like us posted:

Ugh. No. My mo unit does this every parade night and its stupid. Look, PT, especially for a reservist, is something you have to do on your own time. All it does is annoy those of us who stay in shape, and frustrate those out of shape. And its usually some stupid loving Crossfit poo poo because my OC is a crossfit koolaid drinker.

Then get the frustrated fatties to get back into shape, and sports night will be reinstated.

There's a reason reservists are looked down on, and the general pathetic level of physical fitness is chief among them.

Frog 1.0
Jun 2, 2001

Now with 33% less Engrish

Samu posted:

Filthy reservist nonsenes? No way, 1 CER get's sports afternoon every wednesday. I'm pretty sure the PPCLI doesn't do anything except play sports. If you took away our sports I'm pretty sure 1CMBG would go on strike.

Sup 1 CER goon. My fresh from Borden wife will be posted to 1 CER as a RMS clerk on january 8th. For myself it's the 1 SBN(MSE op). We are looking forward to move to Edmonton, it's gonna be a huge change for sure.

acumen
Mar 17, 2005
Fun Shoe

MA-Horus posted:

Then get the frustrated fatties to get back into shape, and sports night will be reinstated.

There's a reason reservists are looked down on, and the general pathetic level of physical fitness is chief among them.

As someone with six years in a reg force battalion and a seventh in a reserve "battalion" I'd say that it's probably moreso the optional training or not progressing past battle school skills. PT is just the icing.

Samu
Jan 11, 2010

The only thing I hate more than hippie neo-liberal fascists and anarchists are the hypocrite fat cat suits they grow up to become.

Frog 1.0 posted:

Sup 1 CER goon. My fresh from Borden wife will be posted to 1 CER as a RMS clerk on january 8th. For myself it's the 1 SBN(MSE op). We are looking forward to move to Edmonton, it's gonna be a huge change for sure.

Hey man, if you have any questions about the area just let me know. Edmonton's not bad if you like living in the city. A lot of people live in small towns to the north as well.

Have fun with your first Alberta winter by the way. It was already -30 when I left for Christmas leave.

swagger like us
Oct 27, 2005

Don't mind me. We must protect rapists and misogynists from harm. If they're innocent they must not be named. Surely they'll never harm their sleeping, female patients. Watch me defend this in great detail. I am not a mens rights activist either.

MA-Horus posted:

Then get the frustrated fatties to get back into shape, and sports night will be reinstated.

There's a reason reservists are looked down on, and the general pathetic level of physical fitness is chief among them.

"then get the frustrated fatties back into shape" doesn't just work like that. Physical fitness is something thats encouraged in a unit through leadership etc, and its also something thats enforced through policy. While the problem is fatties at the individual level, the error is on the lovely policy that exists. Currently in the Reserves, Class A reservists are not covered for injury for PT, because they recently changed the rules on BFT (you only ever have to do a BFT every year if you are going Class B or C), thus as a Class A reservist you're not "required" to do PT (even though if you're in a loving infantry unit it is pretty important). I myself got injured in sports for a year and a half, lost out courses and exercises and didnt get poo poo for my effort to stay in shape. So, ask me then, why should a Class A reservist get in shape anyways when there's no actual policy protecting him?

What needs to be done for Class A reservists is 1.)Paid gym membership. $50 isnt a lot per month, but the idea that its available, for free, is a good motivator or access to weightlifting and gym equipment (I've heard of some units even going so far as having a paid, weekday half-night for PT every week where you can come in and use the gym equipment. This is a good idea) 2.)Liability protection for approved PT. If Im weightlifting or doing sports, I shouldnt have to worry about my summer work because I might get hurt and then, welp there goes my 4mths pay that I need. In the regular force this isnt a problem because you're paid either way, in the Reserves it is because its one of my sources of income.

If there's no encouragement or protection, then no amount of stupid crossfit circuits or whatever every wednesday night is going to solve the huge problem of fitness in the Reserves. Dump it on individuals all you want, but that wont change anything.

Frog 1.0
Jun 2, 2001

Now with 33% less Engrish

Samu posted:

Hey man, if you have any questions about the area just let me know. Edmonton's not bad if you like living in the city. A lot of people live in small towns to the north as well.

Have fun with your first Alberta winter by the way. It was already -30 when I left for Christmas leave.

Yeah a posting during the holiday season is very brutal. I do plan on buying a house within the next year. From what I've seen so far the price of houses is not as bad as I thought.

Ultimate Shrek Fan
May 2, 2005

by FactsAreUseless
I hope the christmas flights aren't gonna stop because of a little snow this year. Supposed to fly out on friday and the weather network is calling for 15 to 20 cm.

BIG NORTH
Jul 7, 2007

I THOUGHT YOU WERE THE DEAN
Hoping the weather holds a few days. Driving to Greenwood this Friday, and really don't feel like driving through snow storms.

MA-Horus
Dec 3, 2006

I'm sorry, I can't hear you over the sound of how awesome I am.

swagger like us posted:

"then get the frustrated fatties back into shape" doesn't just work like that. Physical fitness is something thats encouraged in a unit through leadership etc, and its also something thats enforced through policy. While the problem is fatties at the individual level, the error is on the lovely policy that exists. Currently in the Reserves, Class A reservists are not covered for injury for PT, because they recently changed the rules on BFT (you only ever have to do a BFT every year if you are going Class B or C), thus as a Class A reservist you're not "required" to do PT (even though if you're in a loving infantry unit it is pretty important). I myself got injured in sports for a year and a half, lost out courses and exercises and didnt get poo poo for my effort to stay in shape. So, ask me then, why should a Class A reservist get in shape anyways when there's no actual policy protecting him?

What needs to be done for Class A reservists is 1.)Paid gym membership. $50 isnt a lot per month, but the idea that its available, for free, is a good motivator or access to weightlifting and gym equipment (I've heard of some units even going so far as having a paid, weekday half-night for PT every week where you can come in and use the gym equipment. This is a good idea) 2.)Liability protection for approved PT. If Im weightlifting or doing sports, I shouldnt have to worry about my summer work because I might get hurt and then, welp there goes my 4mths pay that I need. In the regular force this isnt a problem because you're paid either way, in the Reserves it is because its one of my sources of income.

If there's no encouragement or protection, then no amount of stupid crossfit circuits or whatever every wednesday night is going to solve the huge problem of fitness in the Reserves. Dump it on individuals all you want, but that wont change anything.

This is an excellent idea. However, that doesn't change the fact that as a member of the CF, it's a personal responsibility to maintain physical fitness.

There should be no excuse for even having size 46 CADPAT pants to issue.

Frosted Flake
Sep 13, 2011

Semper Shitpost Ubique

Why do they even have those? I don't think anyone that fat could pass a BFT. Just discharge all the fat bodies.

Elgar
Mar 12, 2005
Hey guys, what is going on I don't understand.

Samu posted:

Filthy reservist nonsenes? No way, 1 CER get's sports afternoon every wednesday. I'm pretty sure the PPCLI doesn't do anything except play sports. If you took away our sports I'm pretty sure 1CMBG would go on strike.

For either battalion it's only one day a week, come on.

MA-Horus
Dec 3, 2006

I'm sorry, I can't hear you over the sound of how awesome I am.

Frosted Flake posted:

Why do they even have those? I don't think anyone that fat could pass a BFT. Just discharge all the fat bodies.

I know a whole lotta RMS and Sup Tech that couldn't pass a BFT if their lives depended on it. Either total fat-bodies, or weaklings that can't lift a sandbag, medical chit or no.

Ultimate Shrek Fan
May 2, 2005

by FactsAreUseless

MA-Horus posted:

I know a whole lotta RMS and Sup Tech that couldn't pass a BFT if their lives depended on it. Either total fat-bodies, or weaklings that can't lift a sandbag, medical chit or no.

We're sandbags part of a bft? I don't remember ever touching a sandbag during one.

Samu
Jan 11, 2010

The only thing I hate more than hippie neo-liberal fascists and anarchists are the hypocrite fat cat suits they grow up to become.

Elgar posted:

For either battalion it's only one day a week, come on.

From what I heard the ppcli just show up to pt, next timing 1000h, then work for an hour and a half, then sports or pts after lunch.

Lassitude
Oct 21, 2003

Pufflekins posted:

We're sandbags part of a bft? I don't remember ever touching a sandbag during one.

Nah. Ruck march, trench dig, fireman carry.

Ultimate Shrek Fan
May 2, 2005

by FactsAreUseless

Lassitude posted:

Nah. Ruck march, trench dig, fireman carry.

I've only had to do the trench dig once. Every other time I did the bft it was just after the ground froze

Frog 1.0
Jun 2, 2001

Now with 33% less Engrish

Pufflekins posted:

I've only had to do the trench dig once. Every other time I did the bft it was just after the ground froze

We had coffin like sandbox and they use gravels so even in winter it was possible to do the trench dig.

Ultimate Shrek Fan
May 2, 2005

by FactsAreUseless

Frog 1.0 posted:

We had coffin like sandbox and they use gravels so even in winter it was possible to do the trench dig.

Same here. But it always froze solid or they never cared enough

Mr.48
May 1, 2007
Yeah I dont remember ever actually doing the trench-dig as part of the BFT. Only the ruck-march and fireman carry. We all knew the trench was technically supposed to be there, but they never made us do it.

Frosted Flake posted:

Why do they even have those? I don't think anyone that fat could pass a BFT. Just discharge all the fat bodies.

The problem is that most regiments have the fatties running HQ, so that would never be allowed to happen :v:

Mr.48 fucked around with this message at 00:51 on Dec 30, 2012

Elgar
Mar 12, 2005
Hey guys, what is going on I don't understand.

Samu posted:

From what I heard the ppcli just show up to pt, next timing 1000h, then work for an hour and a half, then sports or pts after lunch.

Nope, at 0800 it's platoon PT if not Coy or Bn led. Sometimes I would let the other sections do their own PT while I took another section through weightlifting technique. I have seen some guys just starburst their guys but it's not that often.

It's work the rest of the day, if individual troops have nothing to do they can do PT but they still have to be good to do something if needed. Only sports day for 1VP was Friday, or Thursday for 3VP. Even then it's only half the day and there isn't other pt scheduled on top of it.

Morristron
Nov 20, 2010
So, Edmonton dudes. Did anyone else know that guy? Does anybody else want to punch him directly in the mouth right now?

Also, how badly is 1 VP or the brigade getting murdered over this?

Guest2553
Aug 3, 2012


My favorite part of that new PT video was the freeze frame once it loaded. Nothing screams 'universality of service' like that figure on the far left.

Also, what happened in Edmonton? I have a couple combat arm type friends I might be able to shake down for info.

ThalidomEid
May 10, 2007
forum name = gamertag
Whoa, what guy in Edmonton? Want to punch who in the mouth? 1VP or Brigade getting murdered? What are you two talking about? (I'm in Edmonton, but I'm on leave and don't actually work at the base.)

Simkin
May 18, 2007

"He says he's going to be number one!"

Morristron posted:

So, Edmonton dudes. Did anyone else know that guy? Does anybody else want to punch him directly in the mouth right now?

Also, how badly is 1 VP or the brigade getting murdered over this?

Dunno. Work doesn't start until Monday and I'm not Duty Officer, so no fucks given atm. Also, haven't seen what you're talking about.

Ultimate Shrek Fan
May 2, 2005

by FactsAreUseless

Simkin posted:

Also, haven't seen what you're talking about.

Well, get back here and tell us monday.

Samu
Jan 11, 2010

The only thing I hate more than hippie neo-liberal fascists and anarchists are the hypocrite fat cat suits they grow up to become.
Some guy probably got caught wearing an unauthorised fleece toque.

scaper exile
Feb 27, 2008
Does anyone know anything about getting braces for cosmetic reasons? I am not looking for a handout but I am interested in how to communicate to my unit that I wish to pay for this myself.

Frog 1.0
Jun 2, 2001

Now with 33% less Engrish

scaper exile posted:

Does anyone know anything about getting braces for cosmetic reasons? I am not looking for a handout but I am interested in how to communicate to my unit that I wish to pay for this myself.

Have you talked to a dentist about this first?  If your teeth are seriously crooked they might even pay for it. The only thing they ask is that you are not due to be posted in the next 3 years and that you don't plan on quitting the army while they pay for your braces.

Whatever happen if your superior tells you that they don't want you to have braces because you won't be deployable anymore just call bullshit on it because you can be deployed. Even on tour, it just means you won't be able to go get them adjusted every 8 weeks, so basically you get them adjusted on your HLTA and then wait for when you're back.

Morristron
Nov 20, 2010

Simkin posted:

Dunno. Work doesn't start until Monday and I'm not Duty Officer, so no fucks given atm. Also, haven't seen what you're talking about.

http://edmonton.ctvnews.ca/voyeurism-child-porn-and-firearms-charges-laid-against-edmonton-man-1.1098760

He's 1VP. I used to work with him, in fact. A couple of the pictures used for this story had him in uniform, including showing the cap badge. I know I'm a greasy civvie now, but that still pisses me off a very great loving deal.

Morristron fucked around with this message at 10:42 on Jan 5, 2013

Ultimate Shrek Fan
May 2, 2005

by FactsAreUseless
He really looks like the child porn type of guy.

Guest2553
Aug 3, 2012


I'm surprised the headline didn't draw attention (read: exploit) the fact that he military for an extra view pageviews.

DrakeriderCa
Feb 3, 2005

But I'm a real cowboy!

Morristron posted:

http://edmonton.ctvnews.ca/voyeurism-child-porn-and-firearms-charges-laid-against-edmonton-man-1.1098760

He's 1VP. I used to work with him, in fact. A couple of the pictures used for this story had him in uniform, including showing the cap badge. I know I'm a greasy civvie now, but that still pisses me off a very great loving deal.

These charges happen more than people realize with active duty soldiers as well. I've probably seen 3 or 4 in the Edmonton courts within the last year.

Simkin
May 18, 2007

"He says he's going to be number one!"
I have worked with him in a professional setting. I'm sure it's not verboten, but I'd still rather not say much about him. The photos showing him in uniform is a lovely deal, though, since he released last fall.

DrakeriderCa
Feb 3, 2005

But I'm a real cowboy!

Simkin posted:

I have worked with him in a professional setting. I'm sure it's not verboten, but I'd still rather not say much about him. The photos showing him in uniform is a lovely deal, though, since he released last fall.

The pictures on the news look like they're from some kind of social media. It might be an assumption that they're from there by I'm going to say this is one more reason not to put pictures of yourself in uniform online. If you get busted for being a creep you're going to make everyone look bad.

Morristron
Nov 20, 2010
I would argue that's a reason to not videotape women in dressing rooms, instead.

Morristron
Nov 20, 2010

Simkin posted:

I have worked with him in a professional setting. I'm sure it's not verboten, but I'd still rather not say much about him. The photos showing him in uniform is a lovely deal, though, since he released last fall.

Did he? That helps explain why the news didn't mention the regiment. I'm actually slightly less mad at the dude now, for some twisted reason.

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DrakeriderCa
Feb 3, 2005

But I'm a real cowboy!

Morristron posted:

I would argue that's a reason to not videotape women in dressing rooms, instead.

Yeah but creeps gonna creep

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