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I just use the free air from the supermarket. Should I be buying premium version? Sainsbury's have just launched a 'Breath the difference' line of premium air, but it's not clear whether that's suitable for tyres or if it's for human consumption.
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You have to get it from up in the mountains over the pollution, yes I know it's thinner, but free-range air is always better.
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Dec 30, 2012 18:16
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Praxair has a new M25 line of tire fillant. It's supposedly 25% CO2, 74% He and the rest is a trade secret. Worked great for me though.
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Dec 31, 2012 03:11
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AnnoyBot posted:Praxair has a new M25 line of tire fillant. It's supposedly 25% CO2, 74% He and the rest is a trade secret. Worked great for me though. Do they do some graded for the M20?
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Dec 31, 2012 08:43
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Angrymog posted:Do they do some graded for the M20? Yes, but it's rated for bias ply tires only. Bummer, I know.
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Dec 31, 2012 08:54
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Tyre air is a conspiracy by the government and the tyre places to generate more taxes from the motoring masses just like selling special "motorcycle" tyres. Did you know the first tyres were solid?! I fill my (ordinary car) tyres with either epoxy (for touring) or silicone sealant (if I want a more sporty ride). Never have to worry about getting a flat now!
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Dec 31, 2012 11:40
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I usually run nitrogen in my tires but I've heard good things about filling them with a vacuum. I'm not sure how this would change handling but the raised CG would certainly help my get a knee down during my city commute. E: sea level air in the back + vacuum in the front = wheelie machine?
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Dec 31, 2012 18:58
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The air supply to your engine is important too. Anybody run helium through their intake? Your exhaust note gets all high pitched, just like your voice!
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Dec 31, 2012 19:02
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And who ever said there's no humor in CA...? Dead right.
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Dec 31, 2012 19:03
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MonkeyNutZ posted:I usually run nitrogen in my tires but I've heard good things about filling them with a vacuum. I'm not sure how this would change handling but the raised CG would certainly help my get a knee down during my city commute. Well yeah but only with radials. Imagine a cross-ply trying to support the carcass against sea-level pressure, it would be a bloodbath!
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Dec 31, 2012 19:04
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nsaP posted:And who ever said there's no humor in CA...? Mate you should have seen Usenet when we started getting on about wheelying shaft-driven bikes.
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Dec 31, 2012 19:04
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On the train to Stockholm bike show I overheard a pair of layer dans discussing gear, with one of them saying he normally rides in jeans and chaps, but when only going on a short ride he would leave the chaps and take the risk. 
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Jan 26, 2013 12:32
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Collateral Damage posted:On the train to Stockholm bike show I overheard a pair of layer dans discussing gear, with one of them saying he normally rides in jeans and chaps, but when only going on a short ride he would leave the chaps and take the risk. That's what pretty much everyone says.
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Jan 26, 2013 15:34
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Collateral Damage posted:On the train to Stockholm bike show I overheard a pair of layer dans discussing gear, with one of them saying he normally rides in jeans and chaps, but when only going on a short ride he would leave the chaps and take the risk. Haha, those crazy bikers who are not me! Talking about small compromises between safety and convenience! They're so crazy!
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Jan 26, 2013 18:13
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Jan 26, 2013 19:52
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Z3n should get a motorbike alarm that plays someone saying that, he'd be out in a shot.
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Jan 26, 2013 20:12
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Philanthropy! posted:That's what pretty much everyone says. You, of all people, should know that accidents can and do happen in what seems like a perfectly safe situation.
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Jan 26, 2013 20:14
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Look, it's a legit point. Pretty much everyone beyond this insular forum doesn't wear the entire rig when they're going to a short journey and TBH I'm sure that the wearisome Pharisees who extoll ATGATT do exactly the same thing IRL. Besides when I wrote off my Daytona I was wearing shorts, t-shirt and a pair of deck shoes and I was pretty much fine. Be honest, don't lie to yourself and others - we all know we don't wear full kit for very short trips. I don't know where the consideration that safety zealotry has become attractive comes from. 
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Jan 26, 2013 20:26
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Here is another person who crashed wearing a T-shirt and shorts at only 40mph, because someone pulled out in front of him. https://encyclopediadramatica.se/Abunchofnumbers He was wearing a helmet; note the total lack of injury to his head, and compare that to everything else. I don't own a pair of riding pants yet but I do own all the rest of the stuff including knee guards and yes, I do wear all of it every time I ride. YMMV but I found it pretty easy to simply make a habit of putting on everything, never compromising even if it was just a ride around the block, and now I feel actively uncomfortable if I'm missing anything. Try it and see. Sagebrush fucked around with this message at 20:44 on Jan 26, 2013 |
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Jan 26, 2013 20:39
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Oh whatever you tedious nagging fishwife, ignore the median and go directly to extremes. Also, I really don't care what you choose to wear.
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Jan 26, 2013 21:00
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The point was that the chaps he was talking about were most likely not any kind of protective gear anyway, but something which would disintegrate at the first touch of asphalt. I reserve the right to base this assumption completely on prejudice. 
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Jan 26, 2013 21:10
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Sagebrush posted:Here is another person who crashed wearing a T-shirt and shorts at only 40mph, because someone pulled out in front of him.
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Jan 26, 2013 22:35
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I never wish harm on anybody but it didn't stop me from seeing what happened to that guy a mile away. Literally a level 20 master wizard of poor decisions and one of the reasons why I was wary about Mootmoot because I had a morbid feeling he'd suffer the same fate.  I wear all my gear when I do anything and my grocery store is only 500 feet away. It also helps that my suit takes all of 30 seconds to put on. Really, how much is the rest of your life worth? The point is to minimize the chance of injury, not gamble with it.
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Jan 26, 2013 22:50
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Collateral Damage posted:The point was that the chaps he was talking about were most likely not any kind of protective gear anyway, but something which would disintegrate at the first touch of asphalt. I thought chaps only disappeared in darkrooms.
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Jan 26, 2013 22:53
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Xovaan posted:I never wish harm on anybody but it didn't stop me from seeing what happened to that guy a mile away. Literally a level 20 master wizard of poor decisions and one of the reasons why I was wary about Mootmoot because I had a morbid feeling he'd suffer the same fate. abunchofnumbers was pretty much headed for that fate. Even after the accident (iirc) he said he had no regrets and would act the same had he been magically given his arm back. He literally had no concept that he could have had just as much fun, been just as awesome without being a complete squid. That said, sometimes I hang it out and don't wear a jacket or overpants when I ride. I realize I am taking a unnecessary risk but I do it anyway for reasons I can't quite explain. I do enjoy however people's "gear" that isn't protective at all, like my late uncle's safety yarmulke or his leather jacket and gloves, with no armor and so lightweight they may very well been fashion items. Or my brother-in-law's old jacket with a back protector that was so flexible it may as well have been bubble wrap. It's scary they thought those items might protect them in a crash.
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Oh! That does remind me, when my brother went to the New York motorcycle show, he said there was a booth with half helmets and a hand-written sign that said "DOT "Approved"", for like 20 dollars or something like that. As he explained it to me the deal was pretty much you buy these skid lids with DOT on the back for show just so you can get away with not wearing a real helmet in Helmet-law states. Way to keep the fight going for are freedumbs guys.
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Sagebrush posted:Here is another person who crashed wearing a T-shirt and shorts at only 40mph, because someone pulled out in front of him. Backpanther is a really poor poster boy for ATGATT because he would have lost that arm no matter how much kit he was wearing. His clavicle and arm were completely shattered by hitting the lamp post and that's just plain bad luck (and actually a reason why a lot of motorcycle groups advocate more biker-friendly street furniture). Armour cannot prevent injuries like that because it's a hyperextension and/or crush injury and there's no way to protect your arm against that sort of injury without making a jacket with arms as inflexible as the ankle on a boot, which is a bit problematic. A friend of mine spent 7 years in an external fixator and eventually lost his leg in a 15mph crash (t-boned by a 4x4 with bull-bars), despite wearing a full suit, in a crash his girlfriend on the pillion seat (in jeans and trainers) walked away from. I'm not saying wearing good gear isn't a good idea but the totemic power some posters here imbue it with is dangerous.
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Indeed. That's why suggestions of wearing gear are usually paired the suggestion to learn on a small starter bike, when dealing with riders like backpanther. That's an objectionable suggestion to some here too, though. His situation had a lot more contributing factors and a jacket wasn't gonna do much, as you said. Maybe it's just been a trend recently but I feel like I've seen way more people commenting about ATGATTers than posters telling people to ATGATT. I also don't really know why it's something to complain about. I always wear pants, boots, gloves, jacket, and helmet. I didn't used to, I do now. I'd tell others to do the same. If you don't, fine...."No skin off my back" is the saying I think... Make your point about why you choose to wear the gear you wear and let each other be. I do think backpanther is important to bring up tho, because someone like Count Moot here: Philanthropy! posted:Look, it's a legit point. Pretty much everyone beyond this insular forum doesn't wear the entire rig when they're going to a short journey and TBH I'm sure that the wearisome Pharisees who extoll ATGATT do exactly the same thing IRL. was probably way closer to being a backpanther than he realizes, regardless of gear. nsaP fucked around with this message at 01:31 on Jan 27, 2013 |
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http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3493762&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=205 There's a lot of dumb poo poo being said in the DnD pictures thread (must post a picture) about helmets. I usually ride in slacks + a jackets. Deal with it. I've experience the 10/10 scale on the EMT scale so I don't really care(see first post on SA.) Sometimes+combined with teeth - I've felt every level of pain possible.) I even put my bike in the garage w/out a helmet on. Edgy <--- that's me.
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I've tripped and fell and it hurt pretty badly so I can't imagine not wearing a helmet while riding even a skateboard I've experienced 10/10 on the EMT scale too and it wasn't very pleasant to say the least
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It was a tie between being shot with a .3006 and having the catheter (from the gunshot) pulled out my bladder.
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Ignoring the obvious inanity of comparing the levels of pain you've experienced through a completely subjective scale, I thought that those pain scales had 10 marked as "the worst pain I have ever felt" and so by definition everyone has experienced a 10/10 at some point in their life. The kid who falls and scrapes his knee for the first time is experiencing a 10, and so is the POW with bamboo shards being shoved under his fingernails.
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thylacine posted:It was a tie between being shot with a .3006 and having the catheter (from the gunshot) pulled out my bladder. Do you find your life is only meaningful when it's filled with pain? 
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Sagebrush posted:Ignoring the obvious inanity of comparing the levels of pain you've experienced through a completely subjective scale, I thought that those pain scales had 10 marked as "the worst pain I have ever felt" and so by definition everyone has experienced a 10/10 at some point in their life. The kid who falls and scrapes his knee for the first time is experiencing a 10, and so is the POW with bamboo shards being shoved under his fingernails. I had a cable the thickness of a sharpie lodged up my penis to pull out a stent in my ureter and kidney after a year of persistent, chronic kidney infections. It was like having an orgasm in reverse including whatever the feeling opposite of pleasure is that isn't pain. The drainage tube they pulled out of my abdomen for the surgery to put the stent in was 2 feet long and the equivalent of that feeling of pulling spaghetti out of your throat but on crack and steroids and while you're chewing aluminum foil except all of these feelings are centrally located in your gut. Then again I can't even listen to a Nickelback album all the way through given money on a dare so I don't know what the gently caress v  v
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The point wasn't that you haven't experienced pain. I'm sure that hurt a lot. His point was that the number scale is subjective. If you experienced something that hurt worse than that tomorrow, the new experience would be your new 10 and the horrible catheter thing would move to a 9. There is no good way for one human to communicate a pain level to another human. For all we know, the maximum pain response that my body generates could feel like your body's response for what you'd call a 2. He wasn't calling you a pansy, just pointing out that the 0 to 10 scale is subjective and only meaningful when you compare your own experiences to each other. Day Man fucked around with this message at 03:06 on Jan 29, 2013 |
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Yeah pretty much. Just saying "we'll I've felt a 10 on the pain scale  " is meaningless cause everyone has, by definition. On top of that, there's no real point in comparing pain at all, because I would guess that everyone reacts pretty much the same to "the worst pain I have ever felt," regardless of what the actual stimulus is. You only go "oh, that scraped knee I had when I was 6 wasn't so bad" when you get older and experience something worse. At the time, it's the worst pain in the entire world and anything greater is unfathomable.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CL4iVQyp9L4
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Even though pain is subjective, I still would not subject anybody to the pain I or thy have gone through. Considering both of our recoveries are pretty identical, I was just giving another side of the perspective on wearing gear. He's fine with a higher risk of wearing less gear, which I'm honestly okay with, but I'm personally not okay with taking that risk myself, having been subjected to a major surgery and high rating on the EMT pain scale. Anything I can do to minimize that risk is, to me, a good thing, and part of that comes from wearing proper gear. Major recoveries from preventable crashes just doesn't have a palatable risk factor now that I know what a major recovery-- in both time and pain-- feels like, and I'd hope other people would take from my experience and apply it to their own risk assessments. 
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So I've got Horton's headache. I especially like these bits; quote:Some doctors and scientists have described the pain resulting from cluster headaches as the most intense pain a human can endure — worse than giving birth, burns or broken bones. quote:experts have suggested that it may be the most painful condition known to medical science. Female patients have reported it as being more severe than childbirth I get it behind/in my left eye, and several times I've scratched my left temple hard enough to start bleeding simply from trying to find some crazy way to alleviate the pain and get something else to think about. And that is after I've taken 10mg of Ketobemidone. What I'm saying is basically gently caress pain. Some things you do anything to escape, and I can definitely understand people who cave to torture no matter the consequences to others or themselves.
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My girlfriend used to get cluster headaches. She said at one point she almost fell off her balcony head-first to try and knock herself out. I can't remember what the doctor put her on but she hasn't had any since her medication. Apparently people have taken magic mushrooms and/or LSD and instantly stopped their symptoms, forever. Same with migraines and other forms of chronic headaches. But I'm skeptical because the whole psychonaut community is no better than finding advice through a vbulletin motorcycle community board v v
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