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Internet Friend
Jan 1, 2001

I searched the forums and barely saw mention of my favorite timekeeping program, ManicTime. The reason it's killer is it's automatic. As long as it's running it keeps track of which programs you're using, for how long, and what documents you're looking at. If you get distracted easily you'll see that clearly on the timeline it creates. For jobs where you're getting paid for your output like article writing or transcription keeping track of how long you spend at the computer versus time actually spent working versus pay is something you ought to do.

The only important feature the free version doesn't have is the stopwatch. You can manually enter your own tags with start/end/duration if you like, though. Kind of a bummer for Lionbridge type jobs though.

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PaganGoatPants
Jan 18, 2012

TODAY WAS THE SPECIAL SALE DAY!
Grimey Drawer

Internet Friend posted:

I searched the forums and barely saw mention of my favorite timekeeping program, ManicTime.

So it's like RescueTime? I guess RescueTime is more for tracking productivity rather than work.

Internet Friend
Jan 1, 2001

I haven't used RescueTime but I'll try it out alongside Manic for a while. They seem to have the same purpose, I just really like the way Manic graphs the day.

edit: Haha, RescueTime includes an option to automatically not record your porn browsing time. How thoughtful.

Internet Friend fucked around with this message at 03:57 on Dec 13, 2012

BoutrosBoutros
Dec 6, 2010
I wish textbroker would go ahead and review my first 5 entries. It's been days and they haven't even done one yet. The client reviews I've got have been really good though, so I think I could make some decent cash on this site. Once they actually let me write.

Nighthand
Nov 4, 2009

what horror the gas

When they do it, they'll do all five of them at once, because the editors go through and rate a ton at a time. Having written for them for a year now, I tend to get reviews of my stuff once a month, sometimes longer -- the most recent one was two months and a week since my last one, and rated something like 90 articles. They should do yours soon though, I know it didn't take them a month to give me my initial rating.

FredMSloniker
Jan 2, 2008

Why, yes, I do like Kirby games.
Someone offhandedly mentioned copy editing work earlier in the thread, which is something that interests me more than creative writing work. How available is that sort of thing, and how would I go about getting it?

invision
Mar 2, 2009

I DIDN'T GET ENOUGH RAPE LAST TIME, MAY I HAVE SOME MORE?
I need someone to write SEO copy for a website I have. about 800-1k words per article, I'll give you the basic guidelines for what I want but you can pretty much just BS your way through it as long as you follow how often I want the keyword used, etc. Send me a pm if you're interested.

Arnold of Soissons
Mar 4, 2011

by XyloJW

invision posted:

I need someone to write SEO copy for a website I have. about 800-1k words per article, I'll give you the basic guidelines for what I want but you can pretty much just BS your way through it as long as you follow how often I want the keyword used, etc. Send me a pm if you're interested.

PM sent!

invision
Mar 2, 2009

I DIDN'T GET ENOUGH RAPE LAST TIME, MAY I HAVE SOME MORE?
PM's sent out to all that replied.

Eggplant Wizard
Jul 8, 2005


i loev catte

invision posted:

I need someone to write SEO copy for a website I have. about 800-1k words per article, I'll give you the basic guidelines for what I want but you can pretty much just BS your way through it as long as you follow how often I want the keyword used, etc. Send me a pm if you're interested.

:siren: This didn't go well last time it happened. A lot of people ended up getting stiffed. Please remember that when you set up to work for a stranger on the internet, you are putting your time and your money at risk. It is not SA's job to keep you from being fleeced.

gmz
May 28, 2012

by Cowcaster
Anyone notice that the new Leapforce guidelines excludes Meaningless Query? There's only two unratable categories now, "Didn't Load" and "Foreign Language" according to the new guidelines.

I found some old guidelines:

http://antoniovelo.com/wp-content/googlespam.pdf

Meaningless query is included in those while excluded from 3.29...

I'm taking the exam and old content is showing up in the exam that is not explained in the new guidelines. Is the exam compatible to the older guidelines?

Also, this is in my exam:

(B) Useful pages are "as good as it gets".

The "as good as it gets" is not mentioned in the new guidelines but is in the old. Also, some logic contradicts newer guidelines.

Is "meaningless query" still a thing? It isn't according to the new guidelines....how do I answer those questions on my exam? The provided me with insufficient information.

Slightly Used Cake
Oct 21, 2010
Has anyone managed to book work through a site called oDesk, or even Elance? I signed up to both, but they seem flooded, and the rate of pay most people expect to get away with is pitiful, but some money would be better than no money.

Comradephate
Feb 28, 2009

College Slice

Eggplant Wizard posted:

:siren: This didn't go well last time it happened. A lot of people ended up getting stiffed. Please remember that when you set up to work for a stranger on the internet, you are putting your time and your money at risk. It is not SA's job to keep you from being fleeced.

In the OP it says to post in SA-Mart if you want to hire goons. Still the case? Seems best to let their mods deal with it.

Nighthand
Nov 4, 2009

what horror the gas

Yeah, this thread is more for off-site earning opportunities, SA-Mart is the best place for Goon-on-Goon deals. They have systems in place to deal with such things.

Of course, if you're a Goon and post assignments on Textbroker or oDesk or Elance or whereever, you have the third-party site regulating the transaction, and could probably post it here without issue.

In Textbroker news, I wrote my 500th article the other day, and promptly claimed a massive project that's worth about 2/3rds what I make in a typical month. Hopefully they'll like what I produce and I can slack off for part of January.

FredMSloniker
Jan 2, 2008

Why, yes, I do like Kirby games.
No one answered my question, so...

FredMSloniker posted:

Someone offhandedly mentioned copy editing work earlier in the thread, which is something that interests me more than creative writing work. How available is that sort of thing, and how would I go about getting it?

If there's a better thread to ask this sort of thing, let me know!

Nighthand
Nov 4, 2009

what horror the gas

Well, Textbroker's copy editing seems to be done by their in-house team. Demand Studios had copy editing work, but as far as I know it never paid well to begin with and who knows if they still hire for it. You might be able to pick up such jobs on one of the freelance boards (oDesk, Elance) but I have no idea how available it is, if at all.

That said, if you do find anywhere that hires copy editors and has a decent pay rate and work availability, by all means let us know. Most people here seem to be keen on the writing end of things, so that's what gets talked about. That, transcription and Leapforce work.

jendazzler
Dec 30, 2012
Hi Derek,

Is Liveops looking for people with previous marketing experience(I have absolutely none)and if there is a minimum amount of hours that must be worked per week? Could I do this for say 10 hours per week or do they want at least 20 hours?

Thanks!

kazmeyer
Jul 26, 2001

'Cause we're the good guys.

FredMSloniker posted:

No one answered my question, so...


If there's a better thread to ask this sort of thing, let me know!

Copy editing gigs seem to be considerably more difficult to land than writing gigs. Demand wants actual, professional copy-editing experience from their applicants, according to their application. It might be the sort of thing where if you write for them for a while and get stellar grammar results you can get in -- I've gotten to write for a number of different sections based mostly on my research ability -- from what I understand they're pretty tough on the CEs.

Coffee Wolf
Oct 12, 2007

Mmmmm Banana

Slightly Used Cake posted:

Has anyone managed to book work through a site called oDesk, or even Elance? I signed up to both, but they seem flooded, and the rate of pay most people expect to get away with is pitiful, but some money would be better than no money.

My wife found a good job on Elance(actually they found her but still.) It only pays about $4 an hour +bonuses , but it's easy and she got me in for some extra money on weekends too. So yes they do exist.

Derek79
Dec 17, 2005

jendazzler posted:

Hi Derek,

Is Liveops looking for people with previous marketing experience(I have absolutely none)and if there is a minimum amount of hours that must be worked per week? Could I do this for say 10 hours per week or do they want at least 20 hours?

Thanks!

Hi Jen,

There is no minimum with LiveOps. When you first start, you have to do so many calls within so many days (which has changed several times since I started so I don't know how many calls in how many days. It was 25 calls in 7 days when I started). There are times that I get busy with other gigs and don't log in for a month. My wife has not taken a call in over 6 months and just got her contract renewed.

Derek79
Dec 17, 2005

Slightly Used Cake posted:

Has anyone managed to book work through a site called oDesk, or even Elance? I signed up to both, but they seem flooded, and the rate of pay most people expect to get away with is pitiful, but some money would be better than no money.

I have a couple of ongoing gigs from oDesk. Just have to sift through hundreds of crap jobs to find the gems.

Dr. Kyle Farnsworth
Apr 23, 2004

I've done some work off and on on oDesk and eLance. Basically, you'll need to work those crap rates a few times to get a good rating, then you can dig for people who want to pay for actual work rather than "I want a knockoff of Amazon.com and will pay $1/hour up to $30."

jendazzler
Dec 30, 2012
Thanks for the reply. I get caught up in other things as well, so I thought I may try this out just to see hpw it goes.

MasterControl
Jul 28, 2009

Lipstick Apathy
Read through the OP and decided to apply to all three search places: leapforce, lionbridge, and butler hill. I just head back from lionbridge and there's an nda. This is probabaly an "of course" but you can't work with leapforce while doing work for them. However there's nothing about butler hill (whom I still need to hear back from).

I haven't read through the whole thread but I would be curious if anyone who still reads this has anything to say about the jobs or their experience? I'm technically able in every way possible but have been bitten by the layoff bug. I do digital consulting on the side so this would be a nice little padding of work to do while watching the baby sleep.

dms666
Oct 17, 2005

It's Playoff Beard Time! Go Pens!

MasterControl posted:

Read through the OP and decided to apply to all three search places: leapforce, lionbridge, and butler hill. I just head back from lionbridge and there's an nda. This is probabaly an "of course" but you can't work with leapforce while doing work for them. However there's nothing about butler hill (whom I still need to hear back from).

I haven't read through the whole thread but I would be curious if anyone who still reads this has anything to say about the jobs or their experience? I'm technically able in every way possible but have been bitten by the layoff bug. I do digital consulting on the side so this would be a nice little padding of work to do while watching the baby sleep.

I work for LB, both them and LF let you work whenever you want, not sure if LF also wants you to do at least 10 hour a week. I am not sure if this changed, but Butler Hill wants you to work 4 hours a day M-F. You have to pass a test to work at any of these jobs. It isnt the most exciting work, but you can learn a lot of random facts while rating searches. Task availability is also a problem sometimes, especially right around/after holidays. Any other questions, just ask.

Derek79
Dec 17, 2005

dms666 posted:

I work for LB, both them and LF let you work whenever you want, not sure if LF also wants you to do at least 10 hour a week. I am not sure if this changed, but Butler Hill wants you to work 4 hours a day M-F. You have to pass a test to work at any of these jobs. It isnt the most exciting work, but you can learn a lot of random facts while rating searches. Task availability is also a problem sometimes, especially right around/after holidays. Any other questions, just ask.

The only minimum LF has is 200 tasks per month

The March Hare
Oct 15, 2006

Je rêve d'un
Wayne's World 3
Buglord

dms666 posted:

I work for LB, both them and LF let you work whenever you want, not sure if LF also wants you to do at least 10 hour a week. I am not sure if this changed, but Butler Hill wants you to work 4 hours a day M-F. You have to pass a test to work at any of these jobs. It isnt the most exciting work, but you can learn a lot of random facts while rating searches. Task availability is also a problem sometimes, especially right around/after holidays. Any other questions, just ask.

I currently work for BH and the 4 hours per day M-F thing is spot on. You cannot deviate from this. You do get most major holidays off, and the service is occasionally down, but in my months working there I have yet to experience a lack of tasks.

No. 9
Feb 8, 2005

by R. Guyovich
You also have a phone interview with BH beyond the test.

MasterControl
Jul 28, 2009

Lipstick Apathy

dms666 posted:

I work for LB, both them and LF let you work whenever you want, not sure if LF also wants you to do at least 10 hour a week. I am not sure if this changed, but Butler Hill wants you to work 4 hours a day M-F. You have to pass a test to work at any of these jobs. It isnt the most exciting work, but you can learn a lot of random facts while rating searches. Task availability is also a problem sometimes, especially right around/after holidays. Any other questions, just ask.

Thanks for the feedback. I've been reading things on glassdoor about it and there seems to be some weird issues popping up. After reading all of it my largest concern is do you feel the time invested is an issue? There seems to be something about lots of training or guidelines that are changed frequently. Are we talking training that tells me how to "turn on a pc" first or are we talking about deep technical stuff? I'm digitally literate so most training doesn't phase me. AndI'm totally fine with a 4 hour day m-f, it's just that I don't want to enter into work where I'm dumping hours upon hours of "training" . How are the hours tracked? Are the tasks really vague too?

(edit) Also about glassdoor. Some people want to turn this into a career and are ticked about 40 hours of work as well as being mad management doesn't talk to you. I literally could care less. I freelance anyways so I'm just wanting some mindless hours while I'm sipping my coffee in the morning. Plus once a site is launched I'm always hustling for work so this would provide a nice basic supply of hours. Am I wrong in thinking this is a good idea to explore?

MasterControl fucked around with this message at 03:47 on Jan 8, 2013

Doghouse
Oct 22, 2004

I was playing Harvest Moon 64 with this kid who lived on my street and my cows were not doing well and I got so raged up and frustrated that my eyes welled up with tears and my friend was like are you crying dude. Are you crying because of the cows. I didn't understand the feeding mechanic.
If Butler Hill really has no problems with task shortages go with them. Lionbridge had terrible task shortages quite often.

MasterControl
Jul 28, 2009

Lipstick Apathy
BF is the best reviewed on glassdoor for what it's worth

Has anyone looked into the ad's quality rater temp jobs at google?

MasterControl fucked around with this message at 05:03 on Jan 8, 2013

dms666
Oct 17, 2005

It's Playoff Beard Time! Go Pens!

MasterControl posted:

Thanks for the feedback. I've been reading things on glassdoor about it and there seems to be some weird issues popping up. After reading all of it my largest concern is do you feel the time invested is an issue? There seems to be something about lots of training or guidelines that are changed frequently. Are we talking training that tells me how to "turn on a pc" first or are we talking about deep technical stuff? I'm digitally literate so most training doesn't phase me. AndI'm totally fine with a 4 hour day m-f, it's just that I don't want to enter into work where I'm dumping hours upon hours of "training" . How are the hours tracked? Are the tasks really vague too?

The training for LB isnt bad at all, after learning the basic guidelines there is only new info when you come across new task types. Usually it takes a minute or two of reading before you figure out what you have to do. Usually the guidelines change every few months and are minor things like, "You should now rate a famous persons Twitter lower if the user does not specifically ask for it."

e: In regards to training and BH, my friend worked there after he had problems with LB. He said if he didnt do good on a few tasks they would put him in unpaid training for a week at a time, which kept repeating. I never really asked about this in depth, but seemed pretty annoying.

MasterControl
Jul 28, 2009

Lipstick Apathy

dms666 posted:

The training for LB isnt bad at all, after learning the basic guidelines there is only new info when you come across new task types. Usually it takes a minute or two of reading before you figure out what you have to do. Usually the guidelines change every few months and are minor things like, "You should now rate a famous persons Twitter lower if the user does not specifically ask for it."

e: In regards to training and BH, my friend worked there after he had problems with LB. He said if he didnt do good on a few tasks they would put him in unpaid training for a week at a time, which kept repeating. I never really asked about this in depth, but seemed pretty annoying.

Just a few more questions. Do you work for more than one of them or only BH? How many hours a week are you putting in? I just passed the first tests and am doing the study courses right now. It seems daunting with all the 30 minute training sessions. I do realize they do pay for the training so that's ok and hey I do need to know how to do the work. Just seems like a lot. Another important question is: do you guys actually mind the work?

MasterControl fucked around with this message at 00:12 on Jan 11, 2013

mezzir
Jul 1, 2007

I'ma rub your ass in the moonshine.
Let's take it back to seventy-nine...

Doghouse posted:

If Butler Hill really has no problems with task shortages go with them. Lionbridge had terrible task shortages quite often.

Other than site maintenance and things like that, no task shortages in 2 years. They're definitely the more 'real job'-ish of the two.

dms666
Oct 17, 2005

It's Playoff Beard Time! Go Pens!

MasterControl posted:

Just a few more questions. Do you work for more than one of them or only BH? How many hours a week are you putting in? I just passed the first tests and am doing the study courses right now. It seems daunting with all the 30 minute training sessions. I do realize they do pay for the training so that's ok and hey I do need to know how to do the work. Just seems like a lot. Another important question is: do you guys actually mind the work?

I only work for LB and try to get 20 hours in if possible, but that also depends on what other kind of work I have to do and my schedule. I dont mind the work most of the time, but some of the tasks can be boring. It helps to have something on TV to watch while working or something to read.

FredMSloniker
Jan 2, 2008

Why, yes, I do like Kirby games.
So what kind of pay does Butler Hill offer? I'm looking at their website and seeing a lack of information on this subject, which makes me hesitant to apply.

The March Hare
Oct 15, 2006

Je rêve d'un
Wayne's World 3
Buglord

FredMSloniker posted:

So what kind of pay does Butler Hill offer? I'm looking at their website and seeing a lack of information on this subject, which makes me hesitant to apply.

Fairly sure I started at $13.50 doing search engine work, which ends up being just under $300/week before taxes. Unfortunately, they pay out once a month, so that is a blessing or a curse, depending on your situation.

MasterControl
Jul 28, 2009

Lipstick Apathy

The March Hare posted:

Fairly sure I started at $13.50 doing search engine work, which ends up being just under $300/week before taxes. Unfortunately, they pay out once a month, so that is a blessing or a curse, depending on your situation.

I was quoted 13.50 as well. I'm in the application process right now taking the pre-screen tests and such (you get paid if you pass).

PaganGoatPants
Jan 18, 2012

TODAY WAS THE SPECIAL SALE DAY!
Grimey Drawer

MasterControl posted:

I was quoted 13.50 as well. I'm in the application process right now taking the pre-screen tests and such (you get paid if you pass).

Seems interesting, any special links to apply with?

VVVV Thanks

PaganGoatPants fucked around with this message at 22:19 on Jan 14, 2013

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MasterControl
Jul 28, 2009

Lipstick Apathy

PaganGoatPants posted:

Seems interesting, any special links to apply with?

It's in the op but here you go: http://www.appenbutlerhill.com/freelance_work

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