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MisterFusion posted:I would think it would be for that particular career field. I have a few friends who have jobs at top secret organizations, they're all 10 - 12 year veterans and were highly vetted. I just can't imagine a vetting process that takes an 18 year old airman who just finished basic training and says "I think we can confidently send this person to another planet and trust them to keep a secret! After all, who else will cook the food on P3X-442?" Maybe it was one of the ways that the Air Force was moving towards a lack of secrecy for the SGC, like, they could feel the time coming for the operation to be made public, so they started developing off-world deployment as more of a career path within the military, rather than a top secret stationing.
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Having watched all of SG-1 (well, save continuum) and having started Atlantis I have to say that drat, Stargate and BSG share a LOT of actors.
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Dec 29, 2012 19:38
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There's a bunch of them on the show Continuum too.
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Do not forget Supernatural and Smallville.
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MisterFusion posted:I would think it would be for that particular career field. I have a few friends who have jobs at top secret organizations, they're all 10 - 12 year veterans and were highly vetted. I just can't imagine a vetting process that takes an 18 year old airman who just finished basic training and says "I think we can confidently send this person to another planet and trust them to keep a secret! After all, who else will cook the food on P3X-442?" An 18 year old with a clean background is just a trustworthy as a 28 year old with a clean background. Both are just as likely to do something stupid and lose their clearance. It's also very possible for him to be there as an A1C and have a clearance. Coming in with no rank, he'd spend two months in basic, then maybe two months in tech school. At the end of that he'd either be an airman (in a couple months) or an A1C after finishing tech school. He'd probably spend 6 months to a year in whatever noncleared shop they have at the SGC waiting for his clearance. He could end up with his TS and whatever SCI compartments are needed to be on another planet and still have at least six months before even going up for BTZ. Cojawfee fucked around with this message at 20:17 on Dec 29, 2012 |
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Cojawfee posted:An 18 year old with a clean background is just a trustworthy as a 28 year old with a clean background. Both are just as likely to do something stupid and lose their clearance. Though, I guess you're right for services. Unless his SSBI went super fast, he probably would have had to spend several months in whatever noncleared shop they have at SGC.
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Dec 29, 2012 20:16
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bobkatt013 posted:Do not forget Supernatural and Smallville. And Battlestar Galactica.
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Rhyno posted:And Battlestar Galactica. That was the first comparison made. I started watching Fringe and found out it's also filmed in Vancouver. Are there familiar faces in Fringe?
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Rhyno posted:And Battlestar Galactica. Also, Smallville. MisterFusion posted:Right, my main thing was simply the career field. I mean, does the alpha site have a gym with slick sleeves handing out basketballs? The gym at my base is civilians.
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Cojawfee posted:The gym at my base is civilians. Mine has slick sleeves whom I would trust to grab me a heart rate monitor on any planet in the galaxy.
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I guess they could use people that live on those planets, but you'd have to teach them why they need to hand out these rubber balls.
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Mu Zeta posted:I started watching Fringe and found out it's also filmed in Vancouver. Are there familiar faces in Fringe? I think a few of them show up, most notably Joe Flanigan (last season) in a minor role. It was really nice to see him back on TV albeit for a few minutes.
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vandelay industries posted:I think a few of them show up, most notably Joe Flanigan (last season) in a minor role. It was really nice to see him back on TV albeit for a few minutes. He got murdered on Alcatraz too, if you're desperate to see him. I think it was the pilot.
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IRQ posted:He got murdered on Alcatraz too, if you're desperate to see him. I think it was the pilot. Really? I never noticed him. IMDB says nothing about it, too.
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vandelay industries posted:Really? I never noticed him. IMDB says nothing about it, too. I could swear it was him, he killed the main character's partner or something. I can't seem to find anything about it on google though.
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Mu Zeta posted:That was the first comparison made. "All of this has happened before..."
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Mu Zeta posted:Are there familiar faces in Fringe? Off the top of my head, Dr. Beckett showed up for an episode in the latest season.
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Id rather visit Vancouver than Hollywood, all my favorite shows are filmed there it seems.
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There was even an episode of SG-1 that dealt with them recruiting young people. It might be a bit unrealistic, but the Stargate program would have required a big influx of new people. Between the SGC, off world bases, and multiple starships there are a lot of personnel.
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The Stargate program remaining a secret was laughable long before the show ended.
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IRQ posted:The Stargate program remaining a secret was laughable long before the show ended. There sure are a lot of huge comets in the SG Universe!! 
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Mu Zeta posted:Are there familiar faces in Fringe? David Nykl (better known as Dr Radek Zalenka) was in a Fringe episode sometime during season 3.
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WhoIsBarryBostwick posted:David Nykl (better known as Dr Radek Zalenka) was in a Fringe episode sometime during season 3. So was Joe Flanigan (Sheppard), early on in the 4th season. He was Lincoln Lee's FBI partner, but died before the intro. Oops.
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I just saw the one where Prezbo was a guest star. I was hoping he'd get to interact with Lt. Daniels but they don't say a word to each other.
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Senor Tron posted:There was even an episode of SG-1 that dealt with them recruiting young people. Yeah, they had people training for gate teams practically right out of boot camp... granted, they were all best-of-the-best top 1% of their class types, but hey, somebody's gotta sling their hash too.
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Ender's Game made the argument that young people were more flexible in their mindset and tended to be more willing to seize ( albeit risky) opportunities; I can definitely see the argument in that they would have say 5-10% of all personnel brought on board be young somethings just done with training. I liked SGU the most of all of em' which I know is strange but there was something about how risky everything was in SG1 season 1 that just piled on the tension in interesting ways that became slightly less interesting when they had Starships. So SGU seemed to be more like that and than some, later seasons of SG1, and most of SGA had this annoying habit of kinda just bragging about how awesome and invincible the gate teams were you know what I mean? Stargate Command as a WestWing procedural sounds like an awesome idea but I would want closure first with SGU, or maybe a mix? It kinda seems like the Homeworld Defence sections of SGU cried "Stealth Pilot" to me. It was kind of interesting how in SGU they basically are being forced to go with the usually Highly Dangerous Technobabble Ploy by McKay and Carter and bailed because they were like "gently caress that poo poo YOU risk your own lives."
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SGU season 2 was the best season of Stargate (almost entirely on the strength of the second half). I weep for what that show could've been.
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SG1 was great when they were in completely over their heads, just barging into random worlds and turning on all the poo poo to see what happens.
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IRQ posted:The Stargate program remaining a secret was laughable long before the show ended. I think you guys are forgetting that they all signed non-disclosure agreements. I don't see any way around one of them. 
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Is this Ford arc going to become interesting at some point? Because it's kind of a drag imho.
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Ford sucks and the actor sucks.
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Mu Zeta posted:Ford sucks and the actor sucks. This. Replacing him with Ronon was the best thing that could have happened to Atlantis.
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Mu Zeta posted:Ford sucks and the actor sucks. There was a time I was sad that he didn't get enough development, but Christ in heaven he wasn't a very good actor.
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JetsGuy posted:There was a time I was sad that he didn't get enough development, but Christ in heaven he wasn't a very good actor. Well they gave him literally nothing to work with so I find it hard to blame the actor.
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Instant Sunrise posted:It was called "A Dog's Breakfast" and it had him, his sister, Paul McGann, Chris Judge, and Rachael Luttrow in a really small bit part. You cocksucker. I believed you there for a minute. 
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Chairman Mao posted:You cocksucker. I believed you there for a minute. It's actually real!
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MisterFusion posted:I would think it would be for that particular career field. I have a few friends who have jobs at top secret organizations, they're all 10 - 12 year veterans and were highly vetted. I just can't imagine a vetting process that takes an 18 year old airman who just finished basic training and says "I think we can confidently send this person to another planet and trust them to keep a secret! After all, who else will cook the food on P3X-442?" So what if the guy working in the kitchen isn't any good at keeping secrets, he's on an alien planet and the only messages he sends back to Earth will be screened by a team of NID analysts. If the guy turns out to be a major security risk, they can give him a permanent posting at the SGC's equivalent of a weather station in Alaska, or use some alien gizmo to wipe his memory or drive him insane so no one will ever believe him. Worst case scenario, they set him up to look like some crazed Wormhole X-treme fan before sending him back to earth.
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That could happen to anyone. There's no age requirement or experience requirement for a clearance. You just get investigated to see if you're trustworthy.
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