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Spacedad posted:[...] How long before Karl Rove is found dead in some hotel room, painted with gold?
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Zeroisanumber posted:Even if we were to grant the Swift Boat idiots their bullshit argument about Kerry faking injury for a Purple Heart, how do they explain his Bronze and Silver Star? A Silver Star is just a couple of steps down the food chain from a Medal of Honor, and it's not something that you can fake. Kerry was a genuine war-hero, and the bastards dragged his name through the mud. For the silver star, Kerry beached his boat to chase down a kid with an RPG before they could fire on the boats. For the bronze star, he pulled a guy from the water while under fire.
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Jan 6, 2013 03:57
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Goatman Sacks posted:For the silver star, Kerry beached his boat to chase down a kid with an RPG before they could fire on the boats. For the bronze star, he pulled a guy from the water while under fire. Holy poo poo. I never knew what he did, exactly, but drat that's beast. What was his role in the military, exactly?
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Jan 6, 2013 04:08
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Is O'Reilly becoming more blatant in his racism as of late? He did the thing after the election where he bemoaned the death of white culture, and then recently he had this to say:The O'Reilly Factor posted:BILL O'REILLY (host): Now I have to say, Hawaii is one of my favorite places in the world. It's beautiful. We all knew he was a classist/racist shithead from the beginning. However it seems like he's bringing things like this up more often now. Is he just butthurt by the election results?
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ErIog posted:Is O'Reilly becoming more blatant in his racism as of late? He did the thing after the election where he bemoaned the death of white culture, and then recently he had this to say: Yes. He's both racist and butthurt.
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Jan 6, 2013 04:18
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Race seems to have been coming up even more (somehow) since Obama won in November. I think they're just bellyaching about changing demographics and since that's a pretty explicitly racist complaint, it comes off that way. It's harder to dogwhistle a sentiment like "Asians aren't liberal by nature" because it speaks to classic racism by asserting racial phenotypes have inherent traits. It's just harder to cloak in republican buzzwords. That being said I think they're so enormously angry about Romney's loss they maybe don't have the wherewithal to try as hard to be implicit when slandering minority groups.
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Lightning Knight posted:Holy poo poo. I never knew what he did, exactly, but drat that's beast. What was his role in the military, exactly? He was a lieutenant in the Naval Reserves and a commander of a 5 man swift-boat team that did patrols and reconnaissance along the coast of Vietnam. He actually requested duty in Vietnam, and specifically asked for Swift Boat duty because they weren't often involved with active combat, since he didn't really want to be in active combat. But he was absolutely fearless when he did have to fight. Political Whores fucked around with this message at 04:35 on Jan 6, 2013 |
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Jan 6, 2013 04:27
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Or so the MSM would have you believe!
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Cordyceps Headache posted:He was a lieutenant in the Naval Reserves and a commander of a 5 man swift-boat team that did patrols and reconnaissance along the coast of Vietnam. He actually requested duty in Vietnam, and specifically asked for Swift Boat duty because they weren't often involved with active combat, since he didn't really want to be in active combat. But he was absolutely fearless when he did have to fight. This isn't entirely accurate. Swift Boats are a combat unit, they see a lot of riverine action and given that the nastiest area of Vietnam was the delta, it was bloody work. Furthermore just as under water demolitions teams were the original units that morphed into SEAL teams, swift boats and river craft morphed into the current SWCC, which is a special operations unit full stop. Swift boats/patrol craft to UDT and the starting SEALS at the time is the current SWCC/SEAL relationship. It's one of those odd military jobs that's a ton more hardcore than most people actually realize. The Republicans slandered another Kerry who was also in the Navy. Bob Kerry is a former Democratic senator they went after. Funny thing about Bob is he was a Navy SEAL, and not just any Navy SEAL. Kerry was part of hunter killer teams and there is still some controversy over his stabbing people to death (possibly children) and wiping out villages, he was pretty much an assassin. Even more crazy, he won the medal of honor, lost a leg, and also commanded swift boat teams that were known for wiping out entire villages. His bronze star is for wiping out a village/target that turned out to be almost entirely women and children. Yet they branded him as a chicken poo poo. When you get down to comparing actual war records of senators, often it's the Democrats who were the most cold blooded and ruthless. Both the Kerry's were stone cold killers. EDIT- Jim Webbs record also gets way out there into crazy land as well. I've got a theory that one of the reasons Kerry seems so up tight and is such a piss poor communicator is the same as what trips up Webb. Neither of them are completely there anymore. Both of them come across as fundamentally furious individuals who are a few seconds away from tearing off your head and making GBS threads down your neck. Kerry doesn't have the rumor mill around him as much, but Webb is famous for illegally having guns in congress, shoving president Bush at the White House, and telling people on the Sunday shows he keeps a gun on him because he might need it. It's not much of a secret on Capitol Hill that Webb and some other veterans are loving nut bars behind closed doors. I always kinda hope deep down that eventually one of them is going to go off the deep end and strangle one of the chicken hawks to death on CSPAN. SilentD fucked around with this message at 04:59 on Jan 6, 2013 |
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Jan 6, 2013 04:51
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I'd settle for a pistol-whipping. It compares nicely to the days of cane-beatings.
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I'd prefer something more ironic, like being whipped with medals. Besides, it's probably some kind of federal offence to flinch in that sort of situation.
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Jan 6, 2013 05:16
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skaboomizzy posted:I'd settle for a pistol-whipping. It compares nicely to the days of cane-beatings. I'd say Jim president-shover Webb is your man then. Though I don't know if he still has a gun on him in DC after his aide got arrested smuggling a pistol and spare ammunition into the Senate building, but he still claims he always carries one.
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Jan 6, 2013 05:20
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SnakePlissken posted:No, you are not. It's pretty fascinating stuff. Oh Lord, that site is something else. Thank you for posting it. I can just imagine someone watching pop videos over and over again looking for hidden meanings... Also, apparently a British accent is now proof of brainwashing. Who knew? Edit: How can anyone hate a site that features the headline: "Ke$ha drinks blood from heart during live show"? Sick_Boy fucked around with this message at 06:04 on Jan 6, 2013 |
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Jan 6, 2013 06:00
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redshirt posted:Can anyone recommend a general interest Wingnut/Paulian/Republican discussion website other than Freep, Redstate, and Brietbart? I'm looking for some alternatives. Sodahead is full of macro-posting teabaggers, if that's your thing. The Ron Paul brigade isn't there in force. Moderation is generally weak, so you won't get banned for calling people out, but you will want to smash your head against something.
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Business Gorillas posted:This is a pretty good point. To be fair though, I don't think we'd have the crotchety old man McCain we have now, that disgusting campaign, and Sarah Palin if McCain had a pretty comfortable election season for him. We'd probably have something closer to the guy who was somewhat tolerable. John McCain has never been tolerable. The man is a spoiled piece of poo poo, and the only reason he seemed tolerable during the Bush years was because he was pissed off at George W for getting the GOP nomination, and so went contrarian out of spite. It just so happened that being contrarian to the Bush administration put McCain on (comparatively) the rational side of a lot of arguments. John McCain is a petty, vindictive privileged rear end in a top hat who has managed to cloak himself so thoroughly in his past military record and POW status that he has for years (and continues to) received a pass on a multitude of issues. Incidentally, I think it's too bad that McCain's Naval record was subjected to the same kind of scrutiny that John Kerry experienced during the '04 campaign. The only detailed accounts of McCain's military record that I've read do not exactly portray a stellar officer or military man, and I wouldn't be the first to suggest that he represented the military version of what George Bush was in the private sector: the privileged son of an important figure (a line of flag officers, in McCain's case) who was given multiple opportunities that someone of "lesser parentage" would never have received. *Disclaimer: I am not able to find very many sources that are what you'd call "impartial" to back the above up - those details seem to come predominately from two biographies by Robert Timberg and John Karaagac. The fact that most other accounts are fairly short on any kind of detail is interesting, though. In any case, McCain has (I think) benefited considerably from the fact that most people are unwilling to subject a former POW with visible physical damage to the same kind of scrutiny (and falsehood) that John Kerry had to endure.
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Walter posted:Incidentally, I think it's too bad that McCain's Naval record was subjected to the same kind of scrutiny that John Kerry experienced during the '04 campaign. The only detailed accounts of McCain's military record that I've read do not exactly portray a stellar officer or military man, and I wouldn't be the first to suggest that he represented the military version of what George Bush was in the private sector: the privileged son of an important figure (a line of flag officers, in McCain's case) who was given multiple opportunities that someone of "lesser parentage" would never have received. Don't forget that his first wife waited for him the whole time he was in a POW camp, and during that time she was injured seriously in a car accident that left her almost unable to walk. When McCain returned, he began to pursue an affair with his current wife, and eventually dumped her and married Cindy. http://www.snopes.com/politics/mccain/carol.asp In his younger days, his junk was seeing JFK levels of action. And by all accounts, today he's a crass, petty rear end in a top hat whenever the cameras aren't trained on him.
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Hey guys, apparently some guy at the National Review is sad that Democrats give too much money to the rich but not enough to the poor. 
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Walter posted:Incidentally, I think it's too bad that McCain's Naval record was subjected to the same kind of scrutiny that John Kerry experienced during the '04 campaign. The only detailed accounts of McCain's military record that I've read do not exactly portray a stellar officer or military man, and I wouldn't be the first to suggest that he represented the military version of what George Bush was in the private sector: the privileged son of an important figure (a line of flag officers, in McCain's case) who was given multiple opportunities that someone of "lesser parentage" would never have received. I imagine that being the son of an admiral has its advantages, but it's hard to say whether or not McCain got too many extra chances or if he was just a personable sonofabitch who knew how to work the system.
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Mr Interweb posted:Hey guys, apparently some guy at the National Review is sad that Democrats give too much money to the rich but not enough to the poor. Why it's almost like he's not a socialist at all!
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OMG JC a Bomb! posted:In his younger days, his junk was seeing JFK levels of action. And by all accounts, today he's a crass, petty rear end in a top hat whenever the cameras aren't trained on him. Maybe not crass when the cameras are on him, but pretty much always petty as near as I can tell.
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Cordyceps Headache posted:Why it's almost like he's not a socialist at all! Or at the very least, the worst socialist ever.
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Stephanopoulos called out Greta this morning on This Week about FoxNews questioning Hillary's health, which was nice to see. Although she basically just said that she didn't agree with any of that, as one would expect. Too bad he didn't have Bolton on there, although then I would've had to see him on a panel again.Sick_Boy posted:Here's a nice example of what I mean: Notice Christina is singing Like A Virgin On the checkerboard floor Then out from the Vortex point emerges the Queen of Pop The Illuminati are releasing one of their girls and promoting another *counts steps on cake/pyramid* Britney is released Christina is promoted Christina is no longer "a virgin" and is initiated into the Illuminati The goodbye kiss Immediately all point towards the pyramid
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Sir Tonk posted:Stephanopoulos called out Greta this morning on This Week about FoxNews questioning Hillary's health, which was nice to see. Although she basically just said that she didn't agree with any of that, as one would expect. Too bad he didn't have Bolton on there, although then I would've had to see him on a panel again. Well, if the Illuminati promoted Christina and are responsible for her later career, I think we can sleep easy knowing that they are more incompetent than John Bohener.
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Today Michael Savage called for the formation of a "Nationalist" third party built on the foundation of the Tea Party organization. I don't know tons about Savage, but I understand he's pretty influential. It's unlikely, but If the tea party really split, it would be my ultimate dream, and the firwworks would be fantastic.Michael Savage posted:“We need a nationalist party in the United States of America,” said Savage on Aaron Klein's WABC radio show. Should I assume the "nationalist" part is supposed to have some racial connotations? Edit: Michele Bachmann is obviously King David. Go for it, lady! BanjoFish fucked around with this message at 22:17 on Jan 6, 2013 |
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Jan 6, 2013 22:13
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BanjoFish posted:Should I assume the "nationalist" part is supposed to have some racial connotations? It's just a synonym for fascist.
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BanjoFish posted:Today Michael Savage called for the formation of a "Nationalist" third party built on the foundation of the Tea Party organization. I don't know tons about Savage, but I understand he's pretty influential. It's unlikely, but If the tea party really split, it would be my ultimate dream, and the firwworks would be fantastic.
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Yeah, this is just Michael Savage forgetting to put the "not a fascist" mask on before going on-air.
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The problem is that the American Nazi Party is already a little too left for them: http://www.americannaziparty.com/platform/index.php
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Sounds like an opportunity for General Petraus to jump into politics. I'm trying to remember what a nationalist party might stand for, but all I can really think of is "same as usual, but slightly more". Kind of like proactive.
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Words cannot describe how badly I want the GOP to be crippled by an actual far-right schism. 
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Rockopolis posted:Sounds like an opportunity for General Petraus to jump into politics. Social Conservatives who also oppose NAFTA, basically. There's actually a theoretical chance for a lot of pro-union sentiment, actually, although that's doubtful given the probable founders of a nationalist party.
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BanjoFish posted:Today Michael Savage called for the formation of a "Nationalist" third party built on the foundation of the Tea Party organization. I don't know tons about Savage, but I understand he's pretty influential. It's unlikely, but If the tea party really split, it would be my ultimate dream, and the firwworks would be fantastic. Having listened to the guy it's definitely somewhat racially oriented. It's far more about being xenophobic, as someone else said, though. Savage despises the "other" more than anything. Some minorities are okay - especially the Asians, by Savage's interpretation - but others are bad and rebellious and anti-American - typically the blacks. It's less about race, exactly, and more about difference from what Savage sees as the norm. It's also important that Savage is a moral absolutist. This very much influences his view of what is the "other". He despises any religious or cultural minority, except Jews and Judaism... and even there he's far more interested in how zionist they are versus their religious faith. I hesitate to call Savage an out and out fascist, but he certainly leans that way. He is most certainly a jingoist.
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the2ndgenesis posted:Words cannot describe how badly I want the GOP to be crippled by an actual far-right schism. It could happen, but there is still enough of an uneducated crowd to keep them alive  sicarius posted:Having listened to the guy it's definitely somewhat racially oriented. It's far more about being xenophobic, as someone else said, though. Savage despises the "other" more than anything. Some minorities are okay - especially the Asians, by Savage's interpretation - but others are bad and rebellious and anti-American - typically the blacks. It's less about race, exactly, and more about difference from what Savage sees as the norm. It's also important that Savage is a moral absolutist. This very much influences his view of what is the "other". He despises any religious or cultural minority, except Jews and Judaism... and even there he's far more interested in how zionist they are versus their religious faith. So...like Anti-Nazis? Or something more akin to the Golden Dawn in Greece? CommieGIR fucked around with this message at 22:51 on Jan 6, 2013 |
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Jan 6, 2013 22:42
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I hope the new Nationalistische Teepartei decides on some easy way to identify each other, like a uniform or maybe a sweet armband.
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ReidRansom posted:I hope the new Nationalist Teepartei decides on some easy way to identify each other, like a uniform or maybe a sweet armband. They'll need a new salute, too; the good old fashioned US Military one isn't good enough for those patriots.
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CommieGIR posted:It could happen, but there is still enough of an uneducated crowd to keep them alive Isn't the Golden Dawn outwardly racist? He's more like Gordon Gekko meets Bill the Butcher. He's rabidly pro-American and distrustful of otherness, while at the same time being a free market loon. Fascists would want protectionist markets while being nationalists. I don't know what exactly Savage is, but he's definitely not the traditional definition of fascism - but he certainly is far-right and had facistic tendencies.
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ReidRansom posted:I hope the new Nationalistische Teepartei decides on some easy way to identify each other, like a uniform or maybe a sweet armband. 
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Lightning Knight posted:They'll need a new salute, too; the good old fashioned US Military one isn't good enough for those patriots. What could be more patriotic than a good, old fashioned Bellamy salute.
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Install Gentoo posted:The problem is that the American Nazi Party is already a little too left for them: Is that website real? I have been clicking around it and am having a hard time saying for sure... "Racial Greetings White Brothers and Sisters!" "The American Nazi Party has now decided to offer a means for non-whites to aid in our struggle. If you are interested, please fill out the form below. In return for a minimum monthly donation of $10, you will receive a one-year (12 issues) subscription to our hard-copy print publication, The White Worker. As a "sympathizer," you would not be eligible to attend our meetings, conference calls, or other inner-party events, but in addition to financial support, there are many other ways you can assist our efforts. Please make out all money orders to "ANP" ONLY. Thank you very much." Gonna chalk it up to it being so real that it's practically a parody of itself. Space Skeleton fucked around with this message at 23:22 on Jan 6, 2013 |
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