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Seattle/East Side people! We should start a Crusade of Fire campaign! I got the book, the tiles, the space and the beer. Who's in?
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AgentF posted:Although people do get details wrong, in this case I'm starting to lean towards cheating. He took a "Daemon Weapon" and now I see that there isn't a generic Daemon Weapon anymore and none of the weapons you can take match the profile of what this Chaos Lord had. If they were mistakes then they were all in his favour and all at opportune times. Plus considering his conduct at the end of the match (deliberately running down the clock to get a VP victory) I'm not willing to give the benefit of the doubt anymore. I have no shame in checking the book as often as I desire. If it's a book I'm not familiar with, I tell them that I appreciate they've just gone through it with me verbally, but I'd like to know for future and I learn much better by reading stuff myself than I do from just hearing it (which is true) and if it's one I know well I say that I must have missed that bit or be misremembering it and I'd like to check because X seems cool and I'd like to be able to do it. I've caught people out enough times (or found myself in the wrong, which is equally useful and prevents bad feeling through a game because I think something is other than it is) that it's worth the effort. Very often you find that people aren't cheating so much as they've read the first half of something and gotten really excited about it and not read the second part carefully enough, or they've misunderstood a part of the rule (often what the rule actually applies to, the classic being Preferred Enemy against things with no WS in 5th ed) that they don't bring up when they tell you what they're doing because they didn't get it in the first place. I had one like this in 5th with Mephiston where the guy swore blind that he could multiple assault with Mephi on his own because blah blah base size close together etc. etc. until I told him you could only multiple assault with the 2nd model in a unit and asked him where the 2nd model was in the unit of 1. That game ended up being quite pleasant after that. Or they're just like my buddy who's been playing both Fantasy and 40k since literally before I was born and still can't remember what the roll to-wound is for S4 vs. T4 and has some bizarre new interpretation of the rules for every new game he plays. This week it was that Templars take Morale checks as soon as they take a casualty and move immediately because Righteous Zeal.
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Jan 8, 2013 10:03
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Master Twig posted:Rumors or not, all I want in the next Tyranid codex is for Genestealers and Carnifexes to be good. Honestly so long as they don't remove the Tervigons or change Termagants too bad, ala making their 'good' gun totally different from last codex, I'll be fine. Also 2+ rerollable invulnerable saves on hormagaunts, Tyrannofexes becoming 250 points cheaper, eternal warrior across the board, and a new pony, is all I really want.
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Jan 8, 2013 12:07
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For you, the day I painted this model was the most important day of your life. But for me... it was Tuesday. I honestly don't know if this was a good idea or a bad idea, but I blame my fever either way. On the plus side it'll annoy the hell out of that store manager  . "WYSIWYG? He shoots lightning out of his fingers, that's the plasma pistol, and his fists are a close combat weapon!"I really should paint things for fun more often.
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Jan 8, 2013 12:54
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Sykic posted:For you, the day I painted this model was the most important day of your life. But for me... it was Tuesday. This is glorious
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Jan 8, 2013 13:00
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Liking that Bison.
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Jan 8, 2013 13:05
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Just got my Death Korps of Krieg platoon in the mail today. This is no good, as I have an exam this Thursday. Stuff from UK is usually a week underway and I wasn't expecting it yet! The models were in pretty good condition, and I've already assembled and based the first test model. I'll update you guys as I progress, but it'll probably be kind of slow going. Fake edit: Loving my new avatar! Thanks anonymous donor! 
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Jan 8, 2013 13:17
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Cassa posted:Honestly so long as they don't remove the Tervigons or change Termagants too bad, ala making their 'good' gun totally different from last codex, I'll be fine. The change from Spinefists to Fleshborers as the defacto gun for Termagants really burned me from 4th to 5th. I have ~30 Spinegaunts sitting in a drawer, awaiting the day where their gun is no longer crap. Hormagaunts could easily be fixed by making them Beasts instead of basic Infantry. Obviously a lot of rules don't function properly now that running denies assaulting; Bounding Leap is currently only useful for covering ground, where it was supposed to allow for the unit to get additional distance before charging. I could dream-list all the fixes I think that would make Tyranids more varied, but I'm honestly happy enough with them as-is to wait it out. Biomancy and other 6th Ed. changes makes MC lists pretty competitive. I struggled with the changes for a long time and watched as others went mad, tossing their plastic fortunes into a sea of despair. But it was all right, everything was all right, for me the struggle was finished. I have won the victory over myself. I love the Tyranid codex.
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Jan 8, 2013 13:33
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I'd be more worried about losing Hive Guard, personally. They're exactly what the army needed, are powerful, and almost everyone has them: a strong recipe for nerfing by GW standards. Then again, looking at the last few releases, they've seemingly stopped making GBS threads all over popular models/loadouts so much as tweaking them a bit (plague marines, for example). But then again, Carnifexes.
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Jan 8, 2013 14:38
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AgentF posted:In my mind the Tyranid codex is still new, but probably since I've only played against them a couple of times since it came out. My opponents were vociferous about how much they disliked the new codex. Whenever a codex goes from ridiculous to balanced* it causes a massive stink. The changes from the hilariously op 4th Ed Chaos book to the 5th edition book didnt actually make them that bad. It just removed the ridiculous things like Obliterator Spam, Basilisks and stupid amounts of Heavy Support choices that generally made it boring and unfun to play against. *Note that while I say the codex is balanced, this would have required all of the big monsters to have been released when the book was, which as we all know wasnt true. This left most players with massive voids in their army lists since not everyone is capable of converting models.
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Jan 8, 2013 15:44
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Pyrovores are going to be the next big thing.
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Jan 8, 2013 15:46
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ghetto wormhole posted:Pyrovores are going to be the next big thing. Well god knows they can't get much worse. They sure as poo poo don't do anything now (not even what they were supposed to, which was also silly/dumb), which is a shame cause the models are pretty cool.
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Jan 8, 2013 16:10
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ghetto wormhole posted:Pyrovores are going to be the next big thing. Since they made wholesale changes to a bunch of Necron units, I never understood why they just didn't make Pyrovores Anti-air. It even looks like it has an AA gun strapped to its back.
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Jan 8, 2013 16:30
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Tommofork posted:Titanicus is about Titans, but it's great and worth a read. It gives a lot of insight into the Mechanicum, the awesome Skitarii and how they do their thing in the setting. The Night Lords series are good for a look, ADB is very good at writing personalities into his Space Marines, and there's a lot of brutal Marine on Marine action, but this is back to 40K and not 30K. Oh, and there's a not so insignificant reference to DoW Dark Crusade in it. Groetgaffel fucked around with this message at 17:16 on Jan 8, 2013 |
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Jan 8, 2013 16:58
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OK, what is '30k'? I assume that is talk for Pre-Heresy?
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Jan 8, 2013 17:17
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30k is circa-heresy.
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Jan 8, 2013 17:18
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Adrian Finol posted:Seattle/East Side people! We should start a Crusade of Fire campaign! I got the book, the tiles, the space and the beer. Who's in? I have no idea what a crusade of fire campaign is, and I haven't actually played this game since 4th edition, but I'm in.
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Jan 8, 2013 17:18
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Thundercracker posted:Since they made wholesale changes to a bunch of Necron units, I never understood why they just didn't make Pyrovores Anti-air. It even looks like it has an AA gun strapped to its back. My dream idea for pyrovores is to make them beasts, then give them a flame blast that works like the hellhound flame cannon. Make them a crazy good anti-infantry unit. Then move them into fast attack so you don't have to take them over Hive Guard and Zoanthropes.
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Jan 8, 2013 17:36
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Master Twig posted:My dream idea for pyrovores is to make them beasts, then give them a flame blast that works like the hellhound flame cannon. Make them a crazy good anti-infantry unit. Then move them into fast attack so you don't have to take them over Hive Guard and Zoanthropes. Nids are already awesome at anti infantry, that is their whole shtick. Pyrovores should be twin linked multi meltas.
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Jan 8, 2013 17:40
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Naramyth posted:Nids are already awesome at anti infantry, that is their whole shtick. Pyrovores should be twin linked multi meltas. Maybe give them different kinds of ammo or guns like Oblits. Melta one turn, flame template the next!
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Jan 8, 2013 17:47
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Master Twig posted:Maybe give them different kinds of ammo or guns like Oblits. Melta one turn, flame template the next!
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Jan 8, 2013 17:54
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Adrian Finol posted:Seattle/East Side people! We should start a Crusade of Fire campaign! I got the book, the tiles, the space and the beer. Who's in? Used there room for a half painted Tyranid army?
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Jan 8, 2013 18:07
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Working on my chaos count-as Grey Knights. click for BIG New list has 5 dudes so I needed some storm bolters and psycannon. What do you think of my double wide Berzerker bolt pistols and a modified heavy bolter? I have 4 of the old metal autocannon guys but they are old looking and would not match. And one day I may need more than 4 and then I would feel weird with mis-matched bodies. MSP mentioned I should sell them since they go for about $10 each. I have never sold minis before. Feels bad, man 
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Jan 8, 2013 18:09
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will blow your mind.
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Jan 8, 2013 18:15
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WhiteOutMouse posted:Working on my chaos count-as Grey Knights. Pretty rad dude. What tubing did you use for the bolter/psycannon?
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Jan 8, 2013 18:39
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WOM you've got some others already painted all ghosty green right? I'd love to see them again, I had an idea for something and I wanted to see yours for inspiration. Can you repost?
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Jan 8, 2013 18:42
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CyberLord XP posted:WOM you've got some others already painted all ghosty green right? I'd love to see them again, I had an idea for something and I wanted to see yours for inspiration. Can you repost? That was me.   
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Jan 8, 2013 18:54
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Derp, my mistake! Very nice though, do you have any close-ups of any of the ghosty guys?
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Jan 8, 2013 19:06
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CyberLord XP posted:Derp, my mistake! Very nice though, do you have any close-ups of any of the ghosty guys?  
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Jan 8, 2013 19:50
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Yesssss. Just what I wanted thanks!
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Jan 8, 2013 19:58
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Naramyth posted:Pretty rad dude. What tubing did you use for the bolter/psycannon? He's not going to know, but it's a bit from Robogear, essentially a Russian version of 2nd edition style 40k. http://hoardobits.com/cgi/hob/shop.pl?cat1=Bits&cat2=Robogear&cat3=&cat4=&page=1&view=ROBO-2242012-21
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Jan 8, 2013 20:04
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ghetto wormhole posted:It's usually possible to find a similar upgrade somewhere in one of the codexes, you can use that as a base for the points cost but you have to sort of factor in other things like what kind of unit you're upgrading and how expensive it is in the first place. Adding a major function to Rhinos is probably going to cost more than it would on a Land Raider. You also have to think how much it effects how the army operates, if it lets them do something they already do a little bit better then make it cheap, if it unlocks huge possibilities then it should probably cost a ton. 30ish points sounds pretty reasonable for a unit that only costs 35 points in the first place. Maybe you could add a drawback too. Thanks to those who offered advice. I was thinking maybe 25 points and it reduced the troop capacity by two. If it were just normal space marines I would most likely give it to him for free, but with all the solid close combat choices Chaos Space Marines have I feel like it would make them too strong to give out for free. Two rhinos filled with Berserkers is already pretty scary, not getting to shoot at them at all for free makes them terrifying.
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Jan 8, 2013 21:08
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Adrian Finol posted:Seattle/East Side people! We should start a Crusade of Fire campaign! I got the book, the tiles, the space and the beer. Who's in? "Just when I thought I was out...they pull me back in." gently caress it, count me in. I've got a bunch of half assembled armies and I need a reason to waste my precious time and money.
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Jan 8, 2013 22:34
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This is the first time I noticed you repeat the lightning pattern on the gun barrels; that is a really nice touch.
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Jan 8, 2013 22:39
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I am crazy and hate my free time and disposable income, and therefore am thinking of restarting playing 40k. I've got a whole load of Tau tanks, fire warriors and battlesuits, do I need much more? I've not even looked at the most recent 2 editions of 40k, the models look recent but I've seen some mentions that the codex is out of date and a new one is due out soon, is this the case?
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Jan 8, 2013 23:02
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Incy posted:I am crazy and hate my free time and disposable income, and therefore am thinking of restarting playing 40k. I've got a whole load of Tau tanks, fire warriors and battlesuits, do I need much more? I've not even looked at the most recent 2 editions of 40k, the models look recent but I've seen some mentions that the codex is out of date and a new one is due out soon, is this the case? Chaos Daemons are possibly getting a codex or some sort of update in January, then Tau and Eldar are definitely getting updates but I'm not sure what order they'll be in. Tau aren't completely worthless but they're very out of date at the moment but it shouldn't be too long before that changes. 6th edition is really fun. \/\/\/ Oh yeah allies from other codexes help Tau a lot, and they're buddies with quite a few. my kinda ape fucked around with this message at 23:31 on Jan 8, 2013 |
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Jan 8, 2013 23:19
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Incy posted:I am crazy and hate my free time and disposable income, and therefore am thinking of restarting playing 40k. I've got a whole load of Tau tanks, fire warriors and battlesuits, do I need much more? I've not even looked at the most recent 2 editions of 40k, the models look recent but I've seen some mentions that the codex is out of date and a new one is due out soon, is this the case? Tau are pretty good now that they can get some IG/marines to hold the midfield. Once the new book comes out I might jump on it depending on what they get.
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Jan 8, 2013 23:24
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They can what? In a normal game? Oh wow stuff has changed. Thanks, I think it's time to take a look at some new marine dolls.
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Jan 8, 2013 23:32
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Incy posted:They can what? In a normal game? Oh wow stuff has changed. Thanks, I think it's time to take a look at some new marine dolls. There's a big chart in the rulebook now that says who can ally with who and how friendly they are with each other. If you take allies you must take 1 HQ choice and 1 Troop choice and you have the option of also taking 1 Fast Attack and 1 Heavy Support. Tau are buddies with Eldar and Space Marines and are ok with everyone else but Dark Eldar, Daemons, Sisters of Battle, who probably aren't worth allying with because of restrictions placed on that level of allies. Tyranids can't ally with them (or anyone else for that matter) at all. my kinda ape fucked around with this message at 23:39 on Jan 8, 2013 |
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Sykic posted:For you, the day I painted this model was the most important day of your life. But for me... it was Tuesday. ...Are those Bison-bucks in his hand? This is great.
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