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Iceclaw posted:Yes, robots, pick a fight with the uncredibly powerful and rather violent shapeshifter that likes to take the form of a huge wolf. That's not going to end up with you reduced to scraps, no siree. I didn't know Shadow liked taking the form of a wolf  Still not sure if this is an intentional trap since they declared them to be trespassers. It's probably a trap, but the idea that the seraphs like to hang out in warehouses on the rafters amuses me a great deal.
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PIP PIP! But seriously, where's the respect for Kat? They see her just as a student? Nothing more? These robots obviously don't feel the same way about the 'angel' as Robot and the other court robots.
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Iceclaw posted:Yes, robots, pick a fight with the uncredibly powerful and rather violent shapeshifter that likes to take the form of a huge wolf. That's not going to end up with you reduced to scraps, no siree. Have we ever seen Reynardine take some real hits in his stuffed toy body? Maybe it'll just get ripped apart.
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MikeJF posted:Have we ever seen Reynardine take some real hits in his stuffed toy body? Maybe it'll just get ripped apart. He did get into a fight with Ysen awhile back, but I don't recall if that involved him taking hits or not.
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Jan 11, 2013 17:52
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There's something wrong with these robots. No worship for Kat?
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MikeJF posted:Have we ever seen Reynardine take some real hits in his stuffed toy body? Maybe it'll just get ripped apart. I'm not willing to find out!
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Jan 11, 2013 18:02
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Deadmeat5150 posted:There's something wrong with these robots. No worship for Kat? Between that and the failure of the disruptor, I think these robots are special somehow.
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Jan 11, 2013 18:07
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If the disruptor really was nothing at all, I have a hard time thinking Kat wouldn't notice it though. She seems the type to pick anything apart as soon as she gets it.
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Julio Cesar Fatass posted:Between that and the failure of the disruptor, I think these robots are special somehow. The old models probably aren't affected by it. Remember Kat couldn't figured out how these things were powered, with the suggestion of them being etherically powered rather than being electric. Donny's disruptor is probably designed for the modern court robots.
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Jan 11, 2013 18:17
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There aren't any old etheric-bots left, they're all powered down in the tomb. These are modern bots just designed after the old Seraph model. I expect they just hardened their circuits against the disruptor at some point in the last few decades. Might even have just been an incidental side-effect of general improvements.
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Jan 11, 2013 18:20
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Aren't these the modern model? I mean I thought they were past being etherically powered after the first generation and they don't look like S1s, I mean they're pretty clearly S13s. Maybe S12s, but we don't know what the in between models look like...also while looking for those pages I found, ugh, that guy. efb...oh well.
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^^^I don't think the numbers are model numbers, the seraphs called Robot number 13 at the chapter start, and Annie and Renard had to look for S13 specifically.RME posted:The old models probably aren't affected by it. Remember Kat couldn't figured out how these things were powered, with the suggestion of them being etherically powered rather than being electric. Donny's disruptor is probably designed for the modern court robots. The seraphs are modern though. The only old-style seraph was the S1 that they put Robot's chip into in Jeanne's tomb. Also something to consider- the court decided not to take Renard from Annie because that would nullify her ownership over the doll and thus Renard. If the robots actually succeed in taking him we may be looking at a situation where he becomes free (but also is captured :/) Mazerunner fucked around with this message at 18:27 on Jan 11, 2013 |
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Brightman posted:Aren't these the modern model? I mean I thought they were past being etherically powered after the first generation and they don't look like S1s, I mean they're pretty clearly S13s. Maybe S12s, but we don't know what the in between models look like... I think S13 wasn't the model number, it was the specific robot. He was the 13th S-model. Mazerunner posted:Also something to consider- the court decided not to take Renard from Annie because that would nullify her ownership over the doll and thus Renard. If the robots actually succeed in taking him we may be looking at a situation where he becomes free (but also is captured :/) I don't think it would matter much. Annie's offered to free him; he's choosing to stay of his own will at this point.
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Yep, they are the modern models. Guess I'm just stupid. I just forgot that there were modern Seraph models I guess.
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MikeJF posted:I don't think it would matter much. Annie's offered to free him; he's choosing to stay of his own will at this point. Yeah that's true, but it's still a pretty big change, don't you think?
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MikeJF posted:I think S13 wasn't the model number, it was the specific robot. He was the 13th S-model.
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Brightman posted:Well I guess that's possible, but that might not make a difference unless they're all just the model right after S1 and they didn't improve it much. To me it seems more likely that it's a model number, if not, then I guess that model got really popular recently, that or I'm just imagining the incremental advancement of court robots over the years incorrectly. Or they self-upgrade as they advance. After all, if you were a robot, why wouldn't you? No reason to be left behind.
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Technically, Annie could order Reynardine to just hop into all the robots then back into his puppet body, I doubt she will, since Kat has issues with people "murdering" robots, but they all have eyes, so the plan should theoretically work.
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The robots seem to be numbered based on their CPUs anyway, since Robot is still considered S13, rather than being reclassified or anything, so it makes sense that they just upgrade as they go, presuming they have upgraded and they aren't still all working off the original model's designs.
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MikeJF posted:Or they self-upgrade as they advance. After all, if you were a robot, why wouldn't you? No reason to be left behind. Touche. Granted if you go this route with most tech it quickly becomes obvious that it's easier to just build something new rather than upgrade, but if they're doing it themselves I could see this being the case. Might also explain the altered chip. Prison Warden posted:The robots seem to be numbered based on their CPUs anyway, since Robot is still considered S13, rather than being reclassified or anything, so it makes sense that they just upgrade as they go, presuming they have upgraded and they aren't still all working off the original model's designs. This page concurs with you. Alright. So he's the 13th Seraph...or they took a page in numbering from video cards, in which case who knows.
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Conot posted:Technically, Annie could order Reynardine to just hop into all the robots then back into his puppet body, I doubt she will, since Kat has issues with people "murdering" robots, but they all have eyes, so the plan should theoretically work. I like this plan but I agree with you that Annie probably wouldn't condone mass robot murder, 'bad' guys or no. I always remember how she paused and took the time to specifically thank and pay attention to the horse bot pulling their carriage when they took Red to get her first haircut. Weird and thoughtless as she sometimes seems she values all life.
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Conot posted:Technically, Annie could order Reynardine to just hop into all the robots then back into his puppet body, I doubt she will, since Kat has issues with people "murdering" robots, but they all have eyes, so the plan should theoretically work. Not just Kat.
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Oops, I misread Conot's post as Annie not Kat but as you've pointed out the point is valid.
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Who knew robots were such bigoted and racist... 
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Numero6 posted:Who knew robots were such bigoted and racist... Don't blame the robots, blame the guy who made them.
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TenKindsOfCrazy posted:But seriously, where's the respect for Kat? They see her just as a student? Nothing more? These robots obviously don't feel the same way about the 'angel' as Robot and the other court robots.
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Conot posted:Technically, Annie could order Reynardine to just hop into all the robots then back into his puppet body, I doubt she will, since Kat has issues with people "murdering" robots, but they all have eyes, so the plan should theoretically work. Also the fact that as soon as Reynardine left the toy he'd be free to do as he wills. While he probably wouldn't snap and kill everyone, there's a good chance he'd jack some kind of body and run away.
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whateverfor posted:Also the fact that as soon as Reynardine left the toy he'd be free to do as he wills. While he probably wouldn't snap and kill everyone, there's a good chance he'd jack some kind of body and run away. I don't know if Reynardine would try to escape from the Court at this point. As Coyote said, he's still there due to Annie.
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Conot posted:Technically, Annie could order Reynardine to just hop into all the robots then back into his puppet body, I doubt she will, since Kat has issues with people "murdering" robots, but they all have eyes, so the plan should theoretically work. Would doing this actually kill the robots, though? We know from Reynardine's current stuffed animal body that he can possess inanimate objects, but unless I'm forgetting something, we've only ever been shown that biotic life dies when he vacates a body. Would abiotic "life" (i.e. artificial intelligence) die as well? Or are the robots potentially immune to the lethal side effect of Reynardine's body-hopping?
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I just noticed that the 2nd panel has the robots just landing on the floor, and the way they're posed makes them look like they floated down on their tiny, metal wings. 
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Anoia posted:Don't blame the robots, blame the guy who made them. Aw man
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I love how in the last panel the robots are eying each other wondering if that was supposed to do something.
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I like how Kat stopped to explain what she was doing and also how she got it, in a cool action pose, especially when compared to her father who just... did it.
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Iceclaw posted:Yes, robots, pick a fight with the uncredibly powerful and rather violent shapeshifter that likes to take the form of a huge wolf. That's not going to end up with you reduced to scraps, no siree. No, don't! It's a trap robots! Jeeze, goons give the worst advice. <  >I like how friendly these imposing robots are, especially after their secret base had been invaded.
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Strongylocentrotus posted:Would doing this actually kill the robots, though? We know from Reynardine's current stuffed animal body that he can possess inanimate objects, but unless I'm forgetting something, we've only ever been shown that biotic life dies when he vacates a body. Would abiotic "life" (i.e. artificial intelligence) die as well? Or are the robots potentially immune to the lethal side effect of Reynardine's body-hopping? If we presume that Coyote's gift is perfect in its imperfection, then any life should die if Renard invades it and leaves. What will happen to the puppet, I don't know.
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I always figured that things died because he basically overwrote the original mind when he entered a creature then left it blank when he left it. No idea what that'd mean for a robot.
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Maybe I forgot, but was it ever explained why he got into the being Annie met in Chapter 3?
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I don't recall any mention of why Reynardine possessed Sivo at all, but on re-reading, I noticed that a sign leading Annie to Reynardine uses a familiar form of subterfuge.
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Patchwork Shaman posted:I don't recall any mention of why Reynardine possessed Sivo at all, but on re-reading, I noticed that a sign leading Annie to Reynardine uses a familiar form of subterfuge. My assumption has always been that Eglamore and Sivo were fighting him and the body he was in was damaged to the point he needed a new one, so he chose Sivo. I'm excited to read the real story when Rey finally gets around to telling it all to Annie.
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