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Baruch Obamawitz posted:We've just taken to basically not making 101 rejections any more. Couple that with our new 112 6th practice (stuff like "a receiver configured to receive user input" is read as a "means for" limitation), and you throw in "well I have no loving idea what the gently caress I'm supposed to find" because a lot of the time, the disclosed structure is "a computer" and then I'm like "well, computers were known in the prior art" but is that a 101 or a 103 or what, and are we actually supposed to look at the corresponding structure or do I just ignore what the office is saying because it's dumb as hell?
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prussian advisor posted:What state? Washington. I would start as an office drone manning a phone bank. When a field position opens up (RA2), I can move up to doing investigations and interviews of delinquent taxpayers. These seem to be the bulk of the tax people. RA3 folks are listed as basically regional support staff and RA4 are listed as regional chiefs.
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I got tired of trying to write this note doing my data analysis in Excel, so I decided to try R.... and holy hell stuff takes like 1/10th of the time to write in R as it did in Excel.
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Just wrote an e-mail turning down a job interview at a small firm; it was one of those ads where you can't see the name of the firm, and when I found out what sort of firm it was I wanted to get away as quickly as possible (tiny crim defence and personal injury firm, with bad reviews all over the internet). Didn't expect to turn down opportunities, but honestly I think I'd rather put up with the working conditions here than do that.
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Baruch Obamawitz posted:We've just taken to basically not making 101 rejections any more. Couple that with our new 112 6th practice (stuff like "a receiver configured to receive user input" is read as a "means for" limitation), and you throw in "well I have no loving idea what the gently caress I'm supposed to find" because a lot of the time, the disclosed structure is "a computer" and then I'm like "well, computers were known in the prior art" but is that a 101 or a 103 or what, and are we actually supposed to look at the corresponding structure or do I just ignore what the office is saying because it's dumb as hell? Boy am I glad I just signed my lease in Alexandria and get to learn about all of this in two weeks  . Oh well, at least I didn't go to law school.
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Agesilaus posted:Just wrote an e-mail turning down a job interview at a small firm; it was one of those ads where you can't see the name of the firm, and when I found out what sort of firm it was I wanted to get away as quickly as possible (tiny crim defence and personal injury firm, with bad reviews all over the internet). Didn't expect to turn down opportunities, but honestly I think I'd rather put up with the working conditions here than do that. How are you able to have standards in this legal market? Do you currently have a decent corporate gig? I interviewed at some law firms where they all but admitted they were committing fraud and I drat near took them up on their offer.
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Baruch Obamawitz posted:In other words, I'd like to move to private practice, where at least I don't have to be confused as to what I'm supposed to do, as opposed to being confused as to what someone else is supposed to do. Make the jump. The hours kinda suck but you don't have to beg for highlighters. Seriously my office manager at the USPTO said no when I asked to get more than one highlighter from her locked drawer of supplies. And I didn't get to choose the color. What the hell?!?
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UnpaidIntern posted:How are you able to have standards in this legal market? Do you currently have a decent corporate gig? I interviewed at some law firms where they all but admitted they were committing fraud and I drat near took them up on their offer. Agesilaus is nothing if not a man of standards. He's doing the Dark Lord's work. Intangibles like keeping the helots in their place make up for a lot in working conditions.
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wacko_- posted:Make the jump. The hours kinda suck but you don't have to beg for highlighters. I've literally been trying to get a job since I was hired five years ago.
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UnpaidIntern posted:How are you able to have standards in this legal market? Do you currently have a decent corporate gig? I interviewed at some law firms where they all but admitted they were committing fraud and I drat near took them up on their offer. DPD work defined: Someone broke into my car at lunch yesterday and there is probably a 50% chance I represented him or will represent him in the near future. He only got a broken zune though, so jokes on him.
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The guy who hired me for my job for next summer died suddenly while on vacation with his family. He seemed really cool. 
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Jan 12, 2013 19:34
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AgentSythe posted:Boy am I glad I just signed my lease in Alexandria and get to learn about all of this in two weeks
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MoFauxHawk posted:The guy who hired me for my job for next summer died suddenly while on vacation with his family. He seemed really cool. I had my boss die unexpectedly. It sucks and I feel for you bro.
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Can I interview some of you patent examiners for my Note for how Bilski and Prometheus are beyond useless? Just think! Your name in a footnote in an obscure article of an obscure journal that nobody reads!
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Jan 12, 2013 23:13
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sometime over break i misplaced my ability to get poo poo done I've applied for two more jobs since getting my grades. I literally used a cover letter from before law school, find replaced "copyediting skills" with "legal research and writing," "planning on attending law school," with "currently attending law school."
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insanityv2 posted:"currently attending law school." Thank you for not putting "Juris Doctor expected, May 2015."
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Jan 13, 2013 03:15
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It says that on my business cards. Yeah I'll go ahead and gently caress myself.
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joat mon posted:Thank you for not putting "Juris Doctor expected, May 2015." That's what my OCS told everyone to put.
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Jan 13, 2013 03:28
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insanityv2 posted:It says that on my business cards. You can redeem this so long as your business cards are done in Comic Sans. Because having business cards in law school is a loving joke.
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Soylent Pudding posted:That's what my OCS told everyone to put. I know. It bothered me a lot less once I found out it wasn't the students themselves responsible for this. Still, pretension and unquestioning edict-following are not high up on the list of qualities a PD's office looks for in interns. What do the other lawgoons who look at resumes think?
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joat mon posted:I know. It bothered me a lot less once I found out it wasn't the students themselves responsible for this. Still, pretension and unquestioning edict-following are not high up on the list of qualities a PD's office looks for in interns. How else are you supposed to know what class level an applicant is? It's fine, it's an easy way for them to express that. (I used to look at resumes and we would get them from 0-3Ls, so knowing actually mattered, since we refused to hire 0Ls and were exceedingly unlikely to hire 1Ls).
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Education University of Failure (2008-2012) Bachelor of Arts in Worthlessness University of Blowjobs (2012-2015) Juris Doctorate, Minor in Sodomy do people really need to be told these things
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Yes, in sodomy.
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The Warszawa posted:You can redeem this so long as your business cards are done in Comic Sans. pssh shows what you know.  I had business cards made for myself on the advice of this illustrious individual:http://www.reddit.com/r/LawSchool/comments/xpv47/should_you_go_to_law_school_probably_not_if_youre/ look he guaranteed me a job if i followed his steps. a guarantee! why would someone get on the internet and lie to me. (No seriously Career Services made them for all the 1L's.) insanityv2 fucked around with this message at 05:16 on Jan 13, 2013 |
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Two years before my 1L summer, the place where I worked 1L summer had a guy with business cards. They refer to him exclusively as "the intern that had business cards." Not in a good way!
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insanityv2 posted:pssh shows what you know. Unless you burnt them in front of Career Services like a draft card, you're doing it wrong.
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The Warszawa posted:You can redeem this so long as your business cards are done in Comic Sans. There were a couple people I can remember handing out business cards in 1L.
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Having business cards is actually really handy and I give mine out a lot more than I expected to, but if I were paying to print my own, I'd probably just carry a notebook and tear pages out. Hope this helps. That said, my primary use for them is for handing to the court reporter so my name is spelled right on the transcript, which overall is not a super awesome use of state printing resources, but whatevs.
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insanityv2 posted:sometime over break i misplaced my ability to get poo poo done
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My family was out to dinner last night with my cousin's new boyfriend, who was regaling us of his dreams of going into international law. I turn to my brother, also a lawyer, and go "Hey man, remember all those international law jobs we turned down?" "Oh yeah, those are a dime a dozen. Anyone can get a big firm law job. You'll be fine." We're dicks.
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CaptainScraps posted:My family was out to dinner last night with my cousin's new boyfriend, who was regaling us of his dreams of going into international law. I turn to my brother, also a lawyer, and go "Hey man, remember all those international law jobs we turned down?" "Oh yeah, those are a dime a dozen. Anyone can get a big firm law job. You'll be fine." Yeah, but who will be laughing when he sues you for promissory estoppel? (the thread, the thread will be laughing)
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Meatbag Esq. posted:Yeah, but who will be laughing when he sues you for promissory estoppel? Perhaps he should have made a safe harbor statement?
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1L jokes, in my megathread?
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Roger_Mudd posted:1L jokes, in my megathread? One time I was in DC after finishing my first 1L semester and I met a guy at a party who was a 1L at Georgetown, and somebody mentioned how we were both in law school and I said something like, "Yeah, torts, haha!" And I thought my intent was clear, but then the guy started expounding about torts and all the people who were in our conversation walked away after a little while. MoFauxHawk fucked around with this message at 23:38 on Jan 13, 2013 |
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Roger_Mudd posted:1L jokes, in my megathread? I'm so incredibly happy that I'm far enough advanced in my post law school life that I don't have a single clue what that 1L joke means.
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BigHead posted:I'm so incredibly happy I'm not sure I remember this emotion.
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No one is safe.Ronak Soliemannjad posted:The process has become more and more discouraging, especially since [employers] want experience, yet nobody is willing to give us this experience," said Ronak Soliemannjad, 26, who has been searching for a [position] since she graduated... http://money.cnn.com/2013/01/14/news/economy/nursing-jobs-new-grads/index.html?iid=HP_LN&hpt=hp_t2 Sweet sweet schadenfreude.
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HiddenReplaced posted:No one is safe. Lots of jobs die loved indeed 
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