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dogmaan posted:I think I was depressed for weeks after the first time I watched threads. A British friend of mine described it as the most high octane nightmare fuels he's ever seen.
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mikerock posted:It is a god damned shame that we weren't able to meet up on your trip south. I think this every time you post pictures of the Black Special. Also I shot you an email.
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gfanikf posted:A British friend of mine described it as the most high octane nightmare fuels he's ever seen. Most British people I know cute this as the scariest thing from their childhood http://youtu.be/P0GyRz_lOQA
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Scratch Monkey posted:Most British people I know cute this as the scariest thing from their childhood I thought it would be the railroad one.
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Threads is a fine movie for scaring the crap out of people and for a reasonably accurate depiction of the hell on earth that would likely follow a major nuclear exchange. That being said I'm pretty fond of the movie Testament. It's a story about a suburb of San Francisco during a nuclear attack. The suburb itself is not directly impacted by the exchange, but they have to deal with all of the consequences. No power, no food, no deliveries, no fuel, all that stuff. No communications, the one old guy with a ham radio trying to communicate with the outside world and get inspired reports of devastation everywhere else, and other fun stuff like that. It's real heavy on the sad. Everyone slowly dies of radiation poisoning from fallout.
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I saw Threads when it came out, and nothing on TV has ever depressed me as much as that film.
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gfanikf posted:I thought it would be the railroad one. That railroad one is more poorly produced than Apaches. Also, I know Threads is worst than The Day After but calling The Day After cheerful is a bit of a stretch.
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I have all those in my Netflix de-queue!
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There's an animated British film, When the Wind Blows, about an elderly couple in Sussex that manages to survive a nuclear exchange, it's pretty goddamned depressing. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/When_the_Wind_Blows_(film) Edit: The whole thing is up on Youtube if you feel life is too happy.
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The lighter side of a Nuclear Apocalypse: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtSj5_jELuQ SAWING FOR TEENS!
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priznat posted:The lighter side of a Nuclear Apocalypse: That isn't the Quiz Broadcast.
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The granddaddy of all of these was 'The War Game' which was a British docu-drama made in 1966 about a nuclear exchange. It was considered so upsetting that the BBC decided not to broadcast it and it sat on a shelf for 20 years before it was finally shown. Available on youtube here, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nrGg8PfkbZw Skip to 26:20 for one of the most shocking bits (in my opinion) - armed police using their Webley revolvers doing mercy killings of the sick.
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I just watched When the Wind Blows and I can't figure out the paper bags at the end. Did I miss something?
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Miso Beno posted:I just watched When the Wind Blows and I can't figure out the paper bags at the end. Did I miss something? It's one of those "duck and cover" things for  surviving a nuclear attack; kind of like hiding under the stairs, or painting your windows white. It's completely useless, just like everything else, and I think it was supposed to be highlighting the futility of the whole thing.
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Memento1979 posted:It's one of those "duck and cover" things for I ended up googling it and it looks like it was intended to be a field expedient wind breaker, but they kinda forgot the face hole.  Painting your windows anti-flash white doesn't make any sense though.
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It's so your soon-to-be-corpse would be all ready wrapped for burial.
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Memento1979 posted:It's to "reflect the flash". It makes no sense at all, and was possibly just mindless busy work to put the peons' minds at peace. Everyone with an ounce of education on the matter during the times of MAD knew that there was very little people could do to survive. It just seems like having people focus on building fall out shelters would make more sense.
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Halman posted:There's an animated British film, When the Wind Blows, about an elderly couple in Sussex that manages to survive a nuclear exchange, it's pretty goddamned depressing. It was actually made by the same guy who made the melancholic Christmas animated film The Snowman. No wonder it's such a downer. Baconroll posted:Skip to 26:20 for one of the most shocking bits (in my opinion) - armed police using their Webley revolvers doing mercy killings of the sick. Bucket of wedding rings at 32:02 
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Miso Beno posted:Painting your windows anti-flash white doesn't make any sense though. I've posted this video a couple of times before, but it answers that question (and is just a really good watch to boot): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Lun5UVZOG4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_Ew9EAG4ss Mick Jackson (the guy behind Threads) was involved in the production of this show as well...I like to think of it as the documentary to Threads' docu-drama. Anyway, the answer to your question can be found indirectly at around 5:50 in the first clip, and then directly at 2:45 and again at 3:25 in the second clip...and then also at 3:40. So it's not so much that they are pointless on their own, because thermal pulse is an issue with nukes (there's a reason why nuclear strike aircraft were painted anti-flash white, and why even after they stopped being painted that color they still have anti-flash shades to be drawn over the canopy and/or windows), it's just that there isn't much of an area where thermal pulse is likely to be that strong of an issue on the ground where you won't be obliterated by the blast 15-30 seconds later. e: Miso Beno posted:It just seems like having people focus on building fall out shelters would make more sense. Film also addresses that...spoiler alert, that doesn't make much sense either, unless you're far enough removed from a strike that thermal pulse/blast aren't an issue (like maybe if you're fortunate enough for it to be a "limited" counterforce exchange that avoids major population centers that don't have military forces nearby). e2: Realized I forgot to post part 3: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0E8pNX9viE iyaayas01 fucked around with this message at 11:12 on Jan 14, 2013 |
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Anyone remember By Dawn's Early Light? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yf87gloRGb0 It's sort of like B-52 porn edit: I was reminded of it by the part where they pull down their cockpit curtains Scratch Monkey fucked around with this message at 19:54 on Jan 14, 2013 |
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While we're on the subject of films about horrific nuclear annihilation, the Bradbury story "There Will Come Soft Rains," about a robot house which continues to care for its inhabitants long after they were incinerated, was made into a short film by a Soviet animation studio: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WfI69DC_jaw
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I remember being disturbed by this book which if I recall was actually something we read for school. 
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Scratch Monkey posted:Anyone remember By Dawn's Early Light? Was this the one that had an F16 follow the B52 at the end, until it ran out of fuel? That part always made me sad.
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"On the Beach" is one of the better known depressing nuclear holocaust books. A real "feel bad" tale.
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Oxford Comma posted:Was this the one that had an F16 follow the B52 at the end, until it ran out of fuel? That part always made me sad. Yeah, but it was an F-18 I think. They had been launched from a carrier to shoot down the B-52 but their carrier got hit while they were in the air so they decided not to bother shooting the B-52 down.
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LP97S posted:That railroad one is more poorly produced than Apaches. Also, I know Threads is worst than The Day After but calling The Day After cheerful is a bit of a stretch. Hmm I'll have to ask my wife is she ever heard of Apaches...hell she might have told me about it and I just forget. She loves watching crazy old British PSAs. Oxford Comma posted:Was this the one that had an F16 follow the B52 at the end, until it ran out of fuel? That part always made me sad. Yes, it is. I even have the book it's based on (movie is far better), the Aircraft Carrier they were from got torpedoed. I always figured I was the only one who felt bad about that. By Dawn's Early Light is interesting for not just becoming a On The Beach, Day After, etc. It's also filled with a really good cast.
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Including Ralphie's dad as Secretary of Defense!
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Scratch Monkey posted:Including Ralphie's dad as Secretary of Defense! Plus Rip Torn who wanted him to go on the Grand Tour!
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gfanikf posted:By Dawn's Early Light is interesting for not just becoming a On The Beach, Day After, etc. It's also filled with a really good cast. James Earl Jones demands a cigarette without a filter, I remember. For its modest budget (I thought it was a TV movie) it was really excellent. In the end the B-52 tries to fly to Tahiti  On the subject of apocalypse movies, I gotta mention Fail Safe again. On another note, could North Korea use its little party-favor nuclear bombs to EMP South Korea/Japan/the western USA?
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Well, they have to get them into the upper atmosphere, which is hard when they won't fit on your missiles.
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wdarkk posted:Well, they have to get them into the upper atmosphere, which is hard when they won't fit on your missiles. And considering that they are one of the few countries who have apparently managed to fail a nuclear test...I wouldn't worry too much about the chances that they will actually work. Right now, they are bombs in being.
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wdarkk posted:Well, they have to get them into the upper atmosphere, which is hard when they won't fit on your missiles. Also the missiles have to be able to reliably get into the upper atmosphere...which given their ..."mixed"...track record, combined with the limited number of nukes, would make that a rather dicey proposition. Furthermore the longest range missile they have is the TD-2 (which they have yet to successfully launch), and it can only reach western AK and maybe Hawaii. So yes they could EMP the ROK and/or Japan pretty easily (provided they figure out how to weaponize the warhead and come up with a missile that can loft it reliably into the upper atmosphere) but they'd need a longer range missile to really do much of anything to the western US.
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iyaayas01 posted:Also the missiles have to be able to reliably get into the upper atmosphere...which given their ..."mixed"...track record, combined with the limited number of nukes, would make that a rather dicey proposition. http://www.foxnews.com/world/2012/12/18/astronomers-say-apparently-malfunctioning-north-korea-satellite-could-orbit/
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I was under the impression that the NK nukes were really big and heavy and even their TD-2 wouldn't stand a chance lifting them? Something about them being potentially used as gigantic land mines in case of invasion from the south.
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grover posted:They successfully launched a taepo dong 2 in December, and do appear to have put it into orbit, even though the satellite itself appears to have failed. Whoops, I knew that. Point still stands about the TD-2's range limitations, though.
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Saying the DPRK could no way no how launch a nuke may be going too far, but when you combine their nuclear bomb reliability with dicey miniaturization and their not-so-stellar missile reliability, it becomes way less than a sure thing that they can slap a nuke on a missile and count on it to work.
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If you'd like to be depressed for a week read On The Beach.
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Miso Beno posted:might as well go sun bathing instead, I guess. When I was a lad, I curled up with a paperback copy of Radiation Safety in Shelters. I read it with mounting disbelief at its relentless optimism about the survivability of significant fallout.
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