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LimburgLimbo posted:If its like a light plug, maybe, but a lot of places have desks with plugs specifically for phones and computers. Thought you might ask. Penal Code (刑法), Law of 1907; forget the act - 44? 45? but it's Chapter XXXVI. 第三十六章 窃盗及び強盗の罪 (窃盗) 第二百三十五条 他人の財物を窃取した者は、窃盗の罪とし、十年以下の懲役又は五十万円以下の罰金に処する。 Specifically, Article No. 245 (電気)- 第二百四十五条 この章の罪については、電気は、財物とみなす。 as such, Under Robbery and Theft, electricity is considered property. Therefore; if you charge your phone without prior consent, you may be charged under this law. I believe if they go ahead with it, it can be off to the labor camps for ~10 years (serial & "tier 3" offenders) or fine that's <500,000JPY (most of the situations i've seen, they charge rates between 3-5x of what you used along with plea, in settlement. Additional charges if something goes haywire it can be blamed on you.) the article was added because of the influx of teenagers charging their cellphones back in the day; it added quite a bill to the government and railways. 98% of the time they will bust your chops/give you a stern "no, you can't charge your phone here" as you're a foreigner and not likely know of the law. The law was also written for well, theft of electricity (I presume meaning, "i'm stealing my neighbor's utilities and not paying!") but it's also pretty much up to interpretation, so it's up to you. It has occurred, though. If an outlet isn't designated as a 'charging station', it's always polite to ask first
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The only cases of "touden" prosecutions I could find were cases of people unplugging signs/vending machines and the like and than using that. I find it hard to believe that they're going to burst into a Starbucks and round up everyone using their laptop. You'd have to be pretty douchey to just start unplugging public items and use them for yourself though. That being said, I have a hard time believing even most Japanese are anal enough to get upset about someone charging their phone on an open outlet. Although give what I've heard about the recent dancing law crackdown, anything is possible I guess. EasternBronze fucked around with this message at 03:39 on Jan 4, 2013 |
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EasternBronze posted:Whats the deal with this 'plugging in phone' bs? I've never had a problem before with using charging my computer/phone there. I'm in Kansai. Places I've been bollocked: The Starbucks next to the TH store in Motomachi The Starbucks in that circle building across the road from South Gate Exit, Umeda I am OK fucked around with this message at 05:49 on Jan 4, 2013 |
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Wow I'm legit kind of stunned, the idea that they don't want you to use the electricity in a STARBUCKS is just so to me. My go-to Starbucks out there is the one in Sannomiya though. Never bothered sitting down in the others.
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The Motomachi one is nice. They have this table the size of a football field that people do their homework on that gives the place a good atmosphere.
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I am OK posted:The Motomachi one is nice. They have this table the size of a football field that people do their homework on that gives the place a good atmosphere. Is that upstairs or something? Or in the back? I live right by there but have only been in the storefront; didn't realize there was more to the place.
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It's right by the window. Remember that there are two Starbucks' in Motomachi so you might be talking about a different one to me.
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EasternBronze posted:That being said, I have a hard time believing even most Japanese are anal enough to get upset about someone charging their phone on an open outlet. Although give what I've heard about the recent dancing law crackdown, anything is possible I guess. They are more anal about being impolite than anything else. It's more of the principle of the thing, I guess. They have designated charging areas; and if not, you're supposed to ask for permission. It's a coffee store, you can bring your laptop if you want, but it doesn't mean you can use their electricity! the reality is, places like starbucks, they just tell you to charge elsewhere. the metro cops might be a bit more strict. Anyway, it's not something you'd really want to push in the first place out of courtesy, but can be an interesting tidbit of culture shock - like the ever-infuriating fact there's very few trash cans around. If you push the matter ("be a douche"), just know the law is behind them. It's completely different stateside where you can just pretty much plug in wherever you want, be it starbucks or some restaurant, or even peruse public utility outlets (i.e. outside of stores). Then again, the electricity rates in the U.S. are far cheaper than those in Japan.
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Welp given that I don't keep up a phone subscription for the few weeks at a time I go there, I hope that the Starbucks employee speaks English really well. "すみません、本店ではご充電の遠慮をお願いいたします。。。" Sorry whats that EasternBronze fucked around with this message at 16:33 on Jan 4, 2013 |
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It's not a big deal, just a bit shocking when it happens. I was pretty staggered the first time. The only reason I did it the second time was because I was desperate for juice.
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EasternBronze posted:"すみません、本店ではご充電の遠慮をお願いいたします。。。" Jesus Christ, don't be a cock.
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If they don't want to provide the service one can expect from any Starbucks I've walked into in half a dozen countries than maybe they should call it something else, like ケチ喫茶。
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EasternBronze posted:If they don't want to provide the service one can expect from any Starbucks I've walked into in half a dozen countries than maybe they should call it something else, like ケチ喫茶。 Wah wah wah they don't let me do what I want to do so I'm going to pull an "idiot foreigner" and bull my way into doing what I want to do wah wah wah.
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Hey, they've got their tricks and I've got mine. Edit: Vaguely related, but in China I met a woman who majored in Japanese at her university, and she told me that I was "the first foreigner she had met who could speak Japanese". Except of course herself and her Chinese classmates, right? Good to see they are transmitting the culture right along with the language. EasternBronze fucked around with this message at 16:33 on Jan 4, 2013 |
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EasternBronze posted:Except of course herself and her Chinese classmates, right? Good to see they are transmitting the culture right along with the language. This is one of those things that is a mindfuck to explain to people who haven't lived here. Like, Chinese and Koreans may still be gaijin but they're less gaijin than the rest of us non-Asians, or something along those lines.
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Foreigner just really means non-Chinese, though I am sure she didn't include Japanese people (if she had met any). It is just a quirck of the language and nothing else.
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EasternBronze posted:Hey, they've got their tricks and I've got mine. In Japanese, gaijin often has the connotation of Westerner. Gaikokujin less so, but sometimes. It's part of the language and in context when you're saying something about gaijin, people will generally understand that you don't mean Chinese/Koreans.
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Yes, that was my point。
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EasternBronze posted:Yes, that was my point。 Then what was the point in stating the obvious? Haha stupid Chinese girl understands the semantics of Japanese?
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Skandiaavity posted:Unless it's a major western hotel, resounding no. Wifi in Japan is pretty sparse. Almost every place I've stayed in Japan has had WiFi, but I pretty much always stay at hostels. The weird thing is when you go to a friends house and you can't use their internet because they only get one ethernet connection per house and you can't use it unless you install their ISP's PPP client.
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teddust posted:Almost every place I've stayed in Japan has had WiFi, but I pretty much always stay at hostels. This is why I have a wireless router with a VLAN. Not that anyone ever comes over.
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I am OK posted:It's right by the window. Remember that there are two Starbucks' in Motomachi so you might be talking about a different one to me. You're probably thinking of Excelsior Cafe. I looked in and noticed a big table when I walked by this evening. The Starbucks is down the other end of the street, near the Motomachi-Chukagai Station #5 Exit. Not that it really matters; jut don't want visitors trekking up and down the street looking for Starbucks but missing what they're searching for.
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Hint: There's more than one Motomachi in Japan
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LimburgLimbo posted:Hint: There's more than one Motomachi in Japan Well, there you go!
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Leaving for Tokyo in just a few days and most of my schedule is under wraps, but there are a number of larger gigs/concerts I really want to hit up. For bigger things like music festivals or big name shows, I'm not sure I want to run the risk of buying tickets at the door - what's the verdict on this in Tokyo anyway, do big names (For example, something as well known as Capsule or Kyary) typically sell out? I noticed most of the bigger shows I want to go see offer e+ ticket purchases online, my Japanese is pretty average so trying to work the e+ stuff out has been a pain. Does anybody have an experience booking tickets on e+? Is it a safe option for a foreigner and should I be waiting until I land in Japan to actually purchase any tickets or can I do it entirely online? E: From what I understand, there are credit card options and options to pick up from Lawsons, as well as something about courier delivery, though I'm not sure if those are all part of the same thing. Like, if I pay by credit card do I have to pick up a ticket at Lawsons? Or is that option just so I can go into a Lawsons, give them an event code and buy a ticket there? diddy kongs feet fucked around with this message at 19:14 on Jan 12, 2013 |
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milk thug posted:Leaving for Tokyo in just a few days and most of my schedule is under wraps, but there are a number of larger gigs/concerts I really want to hit up. For bigger things like music festivals or big name shows, I'm not sure I want to run the risk of buying tickets at the door - what's the verdict on this in Tokyo anyway, do big names (For example, something as well known as Capsule or Kyary) typically sell out? I think that 7-11 uses the e+ system so if you can get the code for the concert you can just input it in directly. I'd imagine it would be too big of a hassle to set things up from overseas. Big gigs sell out right away, although Capsule is still fairly underground so you shouldn't have too many problems seeing them. Kyary is popular in the mainstream so that might be more difficult.
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Hi all, will be in Tokyo from April 2nd and wanted to go out for some good sushi around the 5th at night, Jiro's is too expensive and I don't think I would enjoy a 20min meal. Anyone have any good suggestions for a restaurant? My budget is a max. of 30,000yen/£200. I will be phoning up to book a reservation for 1. If needed my hotel is in Akasaka.
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plenty of good sushi places. do you mind specifying what type of sushi you're interested - or not interested in? (as in, Have you been to Japan before, or did you just want to try a sample platter or is your favorite fish Salmon/Eel/Squid whatever?)
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If you want fancy try kyubei. http://www.kyubey.jp/index_e.html 6,000 yen for a decent assorted sushi, and 10,000 yen for balls to the walls good. My go to best middle tier taste/price ratio is sushi sanmai. Their assorted tuna set for 3150 yen is the bomb. The Shibuya store is 24 hours open! Think there's one near aksaka. yeah it's yurakocho station and it's 24 hours too! https://plus.google.com/114184461930075215023/about?gl=jp&hl=ja http://www.kiyomura.co.jp/shops/search/ Sushi is good, but do give the fried food and ramen a shot. Tsunahachi - http://www.tunahachi.co.jp/en/ good fried ice cream, good wheel cake tempura. Middle tier tempura without breaking the bank. You can splurge at the Peninsula hotel but it's really pricey.
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Skandiaavity posted:plenty of good sushi places. do you mind specifying what type of sushi you're interested - or not interested in? I've never been to japan before but have tried various sushi such as sashimi (tuna, octopus and salmon), nigiri and the typical california rolls. I would like a place that does either omekase (not sure of the spelling) or does a set of a variety of things. I'm not a picky eater and really want to try things I won't get at home. Thanks for the tempura suggestion Caberham, will defo set time aside to go visit.
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Well, for variety, I think conveyer belt sushi is pretty good, especially since you can see it beforehand. I like magurobito in asakusa. Decent quality and well within your budget.
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totalnewbie posted:Well, for variety, I think conveyer belt sushi is pretty good, especially since you can see it beforehand. I like magurobito in asakusa. Decent quality and well within your budget. Yeah that place is cool and has a nice variety. Go early if you can, line forms quick. I think they open at 11.
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With regards to teaching, does having a Masters affect contracts? I know several people who have gotten hired at private English schools overseas and it generally pays more- even if they have a bachelors in education versus other degrees. I want to teach abroad and Japan is probably my number one, I figure it's best to do it while I'm young. Are couples preferred?
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A Masters and experience will open more doors for you, so you can take a stab at teaching at private schools (or even universities as an assistant) rather than just being an ALT or working at an eikaiwa. Couples aren't necessarily preferred since it means more paperwork, but I don't think being married necessarily a detriment either since it indicates a certain amount of personal stability.
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llbdtiberio posted:I've never been to japan before but have tried various sushi such as sashimi (tuna, octopus and salmon), nigiri and the typical california rolls. I would like a place that does either omekase (not sure of the spelling) or does a set of a variety of things. I'm not a picky eater and really want to try things I won't get at home. Thanks for the tempura suggestion Caberham, will defo set time aside to go visit. yeah try some other stuff like Nasu dengaku (eggplant with a variety of sauces), maybe okonomiyaki.. King crab tempura is great. Conveyor sushi places are pretty neat, won't be "the best drat sushi" but they're pretty good for the uniquness. In Ginza Station, there's a basement full of several floors; one has several sushi joints that are sit-down and pretty good. (California rolls are an american thing so you dont have to worry about those.) Really, it's kinda like asking for a 'good burger' in the U.S. - pretty much any place that doesn't look like McDonalds/Burger King/etc will have something good. Might not be the best but it'll be satisfying.
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Nabe, shabu-shabu, sukiyaki, soba, udon, ramen...
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Welp, I've got 11 nights coming up in a while. Thinking of spending 7 in Tokyo and 4 in Kyoto and doing some day trips out from each, but really not sure yet. What are the amusement parks like? I love me some crazy roller coasters.
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Sushidai is another easy choice for mid-range sushi. I'm usually in and out for ~6000 yen per head. The people on Tripadvisor are talking about lining up for breakfast at the Sushidai inside the fish market: http://www.tripadvisor.com/Restaurant_Review-g1066444-d1663012-Reviews-Sushidai-Chuo_Tokyo_Tokyo_Prefecture_Kanto.html I've never been to that one inside the fish market itself. Instead I've always gone to the "main" one instead, for dinner: http://www.tsukiji-sushidai.com/shop/honkan.html Longest I've ever lined up is ~20 minutes. That's saying a lot because I otherwise never line up for food. edit: and to be clear, I will probably never line up for 3 hours for any food, anywhere. While I'd call it low-range instead of mid-range, Sushi Zanmai is definitely my goto place if it's just me and my friends though. But that owes heavily to the location, the one right outside Shimbashi station is ultra-convenient for me. Captain Matchbox posted:Welp, I've got 11 nights coming up in a while. Thinking of spending 7 in Tokyo and 4 in Kyoto and doing some day trips out from each, but really not sure yet. What are the amusement parks like? I love me some crazy roller coasters. Fuji-Q Highland has good roller coasters, it's an easy daytrip from Tokyo: http://www.fujiq.jp/en/ Go on in the middle of the week and there should be almost no lines for anything. zmcnulty fucked around with this message at 08:29 on Jan 15, 2013 |
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Thanks for all the suggestions guys, was honestly not sure if good sushi is as hit and miss as here in Scotland so wanted to check. Have a long list of all the foods I want to try while in Tokyo and Kyoto, I defo won't starve!
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Captain Matchbox posted:Welp, I've got 11 nights coming up in a while. Thinking of spending 7 in Tokyo and 4 in Kyoto and doing some day trips out from each, but really not sure yet. What are the amusement parks like? I love me some crazy roller coasters.
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