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The Rokstar posted:Obama held a press conference with children. Or, to put it this way: Obama can't fly. A stone can't fly. Ergo Obama is a stone.
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I might take a wild stab that Bush probably had children around for some signing of things. Possibly No Child Left Behind? Of course, they'll respond with BLAMING BUSH!!
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Kidney Stone posted:Or, to put it this way: So... if he weighs the same as a duck...
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Deuce posted:I might take a wild stab that Bush probably had children around for some signing of things. Possibly No Child Left Behind? Here ya go! http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snowflake_children
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baw posted:I just went with "Oh a mediocre center-right president. let's compare him to hitler." I was laughed out of the political subforum of a sports blog a few months ago for daring to suggest that Obama was comparable to a Republican in the 90s. They told me I "must not be a real liberal" or else I would "understand what Obama is really doing." Whatever that means.
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Kro-Bar posted:I was laughed out of the political subforum of a sports blog a few months ago for daring to suggest that Obama was comparable to a Republican in the 90s. They told me I "must not be a real liberal" or else I would "understand what Obama is really doing." Whatever that means. So... since they apparently "understand what Obama is really doing," does that make them "real liberals?" 
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I Am The Scum posted:So... since they apparently "understand what Obama is really doing," does that make them "real liberals?" They definitely took an odd tack. Normally the conservatives around here (Oklahoma) make the assertion that liberals have the wool pulled over their eyes by King Obama while they--the TRUE Americans--can see his Emperor's clothes for the gossamer they are.
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Kro-Bar posted:I was laughed out of the political subforum of a sports blog a few months ago for daring to suggest that Obama was comparable to a Republican in the 90s. They told me I "must not be a real liberal" or else I would "understand what Obama is really doing." Whatever that means. What Obama is "really doing" is only noticed by true Americans, silly. Us liberals are too blind to see the REAL issue. The REAL issue is that he's black, of course.
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I find the insinuation only 'Real Americans' are Republicans to be rather disingenuous. Doesn't that kind of imply that their ideal 'real America' is a pseudo-dictatorship where the Republicans rule unchallenged and unhinged? For a bunch of people who claim to love the founding fathers and the principles the country was built on, they seem to have a real scorn for the democratic institution, open discourse, freedom of expression, and the office of POTUS.
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Poizen Jam posted:I find the insinuation only 'Real Americans' are Republicans to be rather disingenuous. Doesn't that kind of imply that their ideal 'real America' is a pseudo-dictatorship where the Republicans rule unchallenged and unhinged? For a bunch of people who claim to love the founding fathers and the principles the country was built on, they seem to have a real scorn for the democratic institution, open discourse, freedom of expression, and the office of POTUS. Yes that is what they want. The believe that Liberals/Democrats are destroying their country and the only right way is their way.
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Gee-whilikers, why didn't we think of that? What a glaring flaw you've discovered!  
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DarkHorse posted:Gee-whilikers, why didn't we think of that? What a glaring flaw you've discovered! You really think he was not vetted insanly when he ran for senate then ran for president? Then again they think that he is some sort of super Muslim sleeper agent who has been prepped since the day he was born.
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Every gun owner should be subject to a background check by the Clinton Machine.
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bobkatt013 posted:You really think he was not vetted insanly when he ran for senate then ran for president? Then again they think that he is some sort of super Muslim sleeper agent who has been prepped since the day he was born. Sarah Palin, 2012 posted:We know the mistake made in our country four years ago was having a candidate that was not vetted, to the degree that he should have been so that we knew what his associations and his pals represented and what went into his thinking, the shaping of who our president today is.
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bobkatt013 posted:You really think he was not vetted insanly when he ran for senate then ran for president? Then again they think that he is some sort of super Muslim sleeper agent who has been prepped since the day he was born. But nope, tricky Br'er 'Bama snuck his way into the most powerful office of the most powerful nation in the world, no take-backsies!
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XyloJW posted:Oh, you must've missed this from exactly one year ago. Yes but that is Sarah Palin and she is lead conductor on the crazy train. There I just answered my own question.
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XyloJW posted:Oh, you must've missed this from exactly one year ago. Wait.... Sarah Palin said this? No sense of irony. Not even a little...
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bobkatt013 posted:You really think he was not vetted insanly when he ran for senate then ran for president? Then again they think that he is some sort of super Muslim sleeper agent who has been prepped since the day he was born. The CIA, FBI and NSA are simultaneously so pervasive they know every move of every single citizen but cant be assed to check if the most prolific man in the country was born there.
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XyloJW posted:Oh, you must've missed this from exactly one year ago. Sarah Palin of all people criticizing a vetting process.
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Poizen Jam posted:I find the insinuation only 'Real Americans' are Republicans to be rather disingenuous. Doesn't that kind of imply that their ideal 'real America' is a pseudo-dictatorship where the Republicans rule unchallenged and unhinged? For a bunch of people who claim to love the founding fathers and the principles the country was built on, they seem to have a real scorn for the democratic institution, open discourse, freedom of expression, and the office of POTUS. I've come to the conclusion that many of the same people currently slavering over the Obama=Hitler meme would actually welcome true Fascism. I'm staying off Facebook through the weekend.
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Deuce posted:I might take a wild stab that Bush probably had children around for some signing of things. Possibly No Child Left Behind?     And Bonus:   
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Look at the kid in the middle trying to throw a gang sign. I love it.
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Most notable use of children as "human shields" in recent times: National Republican Congressional Committee chair Tom Reynolds surrounding himself with kids at a daycare to avoid taking explicit questions about the Tom Foley ("Republican congressman sexting young interns, and probably more that we will never know") scandal: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZOZD3NwxoI
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Leospeare posted:So... if he weighs the same as a duck... Republican logic 101.
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So I'm always hearing the old "Hitler was popularly elected" meme, and while I understand he was technically democratically elected, weren't the Weimar elections gerrymandered as gently caress and steeped in voter intimidation? Austria was already fascist when Germany elected Hitler, right?
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Fandyien posted:So I'm always hearing the old "Hitler was popularly elected" meme, and while I understand he was technically democratically elected, weren't the Weimar elections gerrymandered as gently caress and steeped in voter intimidation? Austria was already fascist when Germany elected Hitler, right? The Austrian ballot was public after the Nazis had moved their military into Austria and the vote is literally "Hitler, Yes or No" where the Yes is about 5 times the size of No so I think there might have been the sliiiiiiightest bit of voter intimidation there.
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Fandyien posted:So I'm always hearing the old "Hitler was popularly elected" meme, and while I understand he was technically democratically elected, weren't the Weimar elections gerrymandered as gently caress and steeped in voter intimidation? Austria was already fascist when Germany elected Hitler, right? Hitler was democratically re-elected, technically speaking. He was appointed as Chancellor in January '33 by von Hindenburg, and the Nazis proceeded to win the March elections in their own right. The closest American equivalent would be if Gerry Ford had won re-election in '76, I think.
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Fandyien posted:So I'm always hearing the old "Hitler was popularly elected" meme, and while I understand he was technically democratically elected, weren't the Weimar elections gerrymandered as gently caress and steeped in voter intimidation? Austria was already fascist when Germany elected Hitler, right? Ghost of Reagan Past fucked around with this message at 20:59 on Jan 18, 2013 |
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Barudak posted:The Austrian ballot was public after the Nazis had moved their military into Austria and the vote is literally "Hitler, Yes or No" where the Yes is about 5 times the size of No so I think there might have been the sliiiiiiightest bit of voter intimidation there. Yea basically he had the same level of democracy most other dictators have now, "Do you want Hitler or do you want to be known as the rear end in a top hat who voted against him while his military is watching you vote?"
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Fandyien posted:So I'm always hearing the old "Hitler was popularly elected" meme, and while I understand he was technically democratically elected, weren't the Weimar elections gerrymandered as gently caress and steeped in voter intimidation? Austria was already fascist when Germany elected Hitler, right? Saying Hitler was popularly elected is a gross over simplification. I mean, the Nazis never actually received either a majority of votes or seats, even in the March 1933 election when tens of thousands of SA troops were patrolling the streets. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_federal_election,_March_1933 To actually wind up with the power they did, it took burning down the Reichstag, essentially harassing/arresting the communists and removing their seats and a mass amount of intimidation to pass the Enabling Act. Not to mention the entire Nazi rise was a just a knee jerk reaction to the Great Depression and by the later part of 1932 it looked like their support was beginning to wane. Barudak posted:The Austrian ballot was public after the Nazis had moved their military into Austria and the vote is literally "Hitler, Yes or No" where the Yes is about 5 times the size of No so I think there might have been the sliiiiiiightest bit of voter intimidation there. Seriously, it was pretty obvious on what the "correct" way to vote was, especially with thousands of German troops in the nation http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Stimmzettel-Anschluss.jpg Not to mention I wouldn't trust election results from fascist states. and yes, Austria had been ruled by a fascist party since 1934. The Patriotic Front just also supported maintaining Austria's independence and identity(particularly its Catholic identity, hence the whole "The Nazis came in and took down the crosses in school!" part of a meme that's been going around) which wasn't fitting into the plans of either the German or Austrian Nazis. Hitler himself lost pretty badly the one election he was specifically running in to Hidenburg http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_presidential_election,_1932 Amused to Death fucked around with this message at 21:04 on Jan 18, 2013 |
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Glitterbomber posted:Yea basically he had the same level of democracy most other dictators have now, "Do you want Hitler or do you want to be known as the rear end in a top hat who voted against him while his military is watching you vote?" I thought it was closer to live or die.
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seiferguy posted:A matter of national security:  I mean, he's a mediocre center-right politician, but he deserves better than this.
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bobkatt013 posted:I thought it was closer to live or die. Well yea, usually being on the list of people who voted against the dictator means you're gonna die, figured that was implied! Yea, the idea the Nazis were elected in any form of democracy is absurd.
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Glitterbomber posted:Well yea, usually being on the list of people who voted against the dictator means you're gonna die, figured that was implied! What were they expecting Death or Cake?
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When pressed, most of the people I know who are paranoid about Obama can only express vague, dog whistle racism-type concern. Something just doesn't "feel right" to them. The country's going in the "wrong direction," we've "abandoned our values," etc. All of Obama's very real failings aside, I am so sad that this country couldn't handle having a black president after all.
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seiferguy posted:A matter of national security: How? How does this person think the payroll tax cut affects married couples? Anecdote: I got married in November and my savings in federal income tax withholding are much higher than the payroll bump. Mistaken For Bacon fucked around with this message at 21:40 on Jan 18, 2013 |
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Garanimals4Seniors posted:How? How does this person think the payroll tax cut affects married couples? Anecdote: I got married in November and my savings in federal income tax withholding are much higher than the payroll bump. I think it has something to do with the expiration of the Bush tax cuts. This article popped up on my facebook feed. http://finance.yahoo.com/news/top-earners-set-pay-most-050001996.html
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