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Brand spanking new DDS1 just sitting there at gamestop.  Course I grabbed that poo poo asap, first with Nocturne now this, getting super lucky with these titles.
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Alteisen posted:Brand spanking new DDS1 just sitting there at gamestop. Word of advice? Hunt as often as possible. Eat everybody. Even if it means prolonging a battle to whittle away at their health. The more you consume, the faster you learn skills. This game doesn't gently caress around--dungeons can have sharp difficulty increases from one to the next, and you'll be locked into some and left to flounder unprepared. You can always change your skills, so don't be afraid to experiment with loadouts--just remember that you should try to focus your characters as much as possible to take advantage of their stats. Make sure you have your party members (and yourself) learn the opposing magic line--so an Ice weakness character should learn fire skills--so that you can acquire their resistance abilities.
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Jan 17, 2013 06:39
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I just picked up Nocturne and was wondering if any could tell me without spoilers how the endings work. Is it the type of game where all that determines the ending I get is a decision I make at the very end, or is it based on things I do throughout the game? Also, does anyone have any stat advancement advice? I'm going with a physical build, but I've been told not to entirely neglect Magic. So I was just wondering what is a good level to get Magic too and in general the other stats as well. Also, as a physical build, what attack skills should I be keeping an eye out for?
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Jan 17, 2013 16:18
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There's an invisible counter towards each of the Reasons that go up based on who you agree with throughout the story. However the optional dungeon will lock you into one of the endings (the best one but still) if you complete it and walk through the final door. For physical build tips: Keep focus, NEVER let that poo poo go because it is great. So is lunge, it says it does low damage but a focus'd lunge will do great damage basically throughout the entirety of the game until the really strong phys skills open up. Just throw a point into magic every so often, but since you can just get a decent +magic stat boost with certain magatama its not a big deal.
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Jan 17, 2013 16:24
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I managed to find a non exorbitantly priced copy of Devil Summoner: Soulless Army in the SA-mart. What sort of stuff should I be aware of before I start to play it? I know the basic rule of "fuse fuse fuse" but aside from the setting, I know essentially nothing about this game.
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Jan 17, 2013 17:35
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It's not an SMT game, but I figured this would be of interest to people: there's a fantranslation being worked on for the Generation Xth series. They're a spinoff of the Japanese Wizardry games that we never got to see, but they're so much like the original SMT games, it's amazing: strange monsters, crushing difficulty, dungeon crawling and a cyberpunk/dystopian twist to keep everything interesting. I've been hoping for a translation for a few years, and so far, this is not disappointing. The first alpha release for testers came out a few days ago, and they're looking for more testers or general help. If all goes well, there's another two games in the series to be translated (which is great, because each game lets you import/export your party like the classic Wiz series). Progress seems to be going swiftly, so it's worth keeping an eye on.
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Jan 17, 2013 17:58
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Coca Koala posted:I managed to find a non exorbitantly priced copy of Devil Summoner: Soulless Army in the SA-mart. What sort of stuff should I be aware of before I start to play it? I know the basic rule of "fuse fuse fuse" but aside from the setting, I know essentially nothing about this game. The rare items that permanently raise any attribute by one? Always use them on yourself rather than on your demons. The towns aren't safe you can get into fights basically everywhere, be prepared to switch out demons a lot. Just have a focus in mind where you always have one that's a strong healer, one that resists certain types of magic, etc.
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Jan 17, 2013 17:59
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Ibram Gaunt posted:There's an invisible counter towards each of the Reasons that go up based on who you agree with throughout the story. However the optional dungeon will lock you into one of the endings (the best one but still) if you complete it and walk through the final door. The Reason questions are very obvious, there's some small ones, but most of them are major questions asked at certain periods of the story that cannot be misconstrued. And Focus is very important, lunge actually lasted me until the point of getting Divine Shot, because I was taking on bosses with a Focus + Tarukaja lunge at that point and doing upwards of 1,000 damage. If you end up grinding out by the end, you can easily max all your stats, as the max level is 255 or something.
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Jan 17, 2013 18:12
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In Nocturne are elemental resistances worth taking up a skill slot?
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Jan 17, 2013 19:31
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kthegreat posted:In Nocturne are elemental resistances worth taking up a skill slot? Nope, just keep switching between magatamas for the relevant elemental resist. I've always found that there were far too few slots to devote one to an elemental resist anyway, but it can be nice.
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Jan 17, 2013 19:42
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I apologize for the Kotaku link, but Soul Hackers is set for April 16.
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Jan 17, 2013 19:44
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kthegreat posted:In Nocturne are elemental resistances worth taking up a skill slot? For demons with weaknesses, certainly, and if you've got nothing better to put on Demi-Fiend and you want to replace a skill, sure, as a void or drain can really help with enemy turns.
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Jan 17, 2013 20:49
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Artix74 posted:I apologize for the Kotaku link, but Soul Hackers is set for April 16. That's the day I get a 3DS to play it 
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Jan 17, 2013 21:39
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In Nocturne are there any Demons or items or other such things that are permanently missable?
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Jan 19, 2013 00:14
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kthegreat posted:In Nocturne are there any Demons or items or other such things that are permanently missable? I think the items in the first Nihlo base area might be missable, because it locks up afterwards. But all the demons can be made, as long as you evolve/clear the requirements.
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Jan 19, 2013 00:21
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kthegreat posted:In Nocturne are there any Demons or items or other such things that are permanently missable? Don't get rid of your Pixie you got at the start of the game. There's a room you can open near the end of the game which rewards you for it.
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Jan 19, 2013 00:30
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Sex_Ferguson posted:Don't get rid of your Pixie you got at the start of the game. There's a room you can open near the end of the game which rewards you for it. To clarify what this means: It is okay to FUSE the pixie, but do not SACRIFICE the pixie or any demon that you fused the pixie into. Remember which demon contains the original pixie.
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Jan 19, 2013 00:31
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ImpAtom posted:To clarify what this means: Luckily remembering is easy because it always appears at the top of the list.
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Jan 19, 2013 00:44
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I know people always say to do that since it's a pretty low effort thing to do, but it seriously is the absolute worst reward you could expect to get from a game-long quest. It's pretty much completely worthless by the time you get it. Unless you REALLY loving love Pixie I guess.
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Jan 19, 2013 01:52
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kthegreat posted:In Nocturne are elemental resistances worth taking up a skill slot? The only ones that help are the instant death ones. Nothing like taking a stroll until some rear end in a top hat one shots you out of the blue.
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Jan 19, 2013 01:53
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And even those are mostly moot between magatama and endure.
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Jan 19, 2013 02:00
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ImpAtom posted:To clarify what this means: Gwyrgyn Blood posted:I know people always say to do that since it's a pretty low effort thing to do, but it seriously is the absolute worst reward you could expect to get from a game-long quest. It's pretty much completely worthless by the time you get it.
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Jan 19, 2013 02:42
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Gwyrgyn Blood posted:I know people always say to do that since it's a pretty low effort thing to do, but it seriously is the absolute worst reward you could expect to get from a game-long quest. It's pretty much completely worthless by the time you get it. How is a free level 80 demon with straight 30 stats and a good skillset completely worthless? Sure, it has no real resistances but no weaknesses either, and most of the later bosses spam almighty attacks anyway so resistances are less valuable late game.
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Jan 19, 2013 03:12
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By the time you get there the *dynes are starting to get pretty anemic compared to the unique skills from the tyrants and other high end demons in addition to how hard it is to actually fuse them on to anything useful from such a low starting point. Plus by then there's only really only the endboss worth worrying about and anyone without debilitate, tarukaja or pierce is just dead weight against him.
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Jan 19, 2013 03:47
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Does anyone have that image of every Persona character grouped by arcana? I saw it here a while ago and can't find it.
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Jan 19, 2013 03:51
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DeathBySpoon posted:Does anyone have that image of every Persona character grouped by arcana? I saw it here a while ago and can't find it. 
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Jan 19, 2013 03:59
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dis astranagant posted:By the time you get there the *dynes are starting to get pretty anemic compared to the unique skills from the tyrants and other high end demons in addition to how hard it is to actually fuse them on to anything useful from such a low starting point. Plus by then there's only really only the endboss worth worrying about and anyone without debilitate, tarukaja or pierce is just dead weight against him. Yup, that's more or less the issue. She's completely worthless for offense at that point, and even Daisoujou is a much better healer right out of the gate and he's a level 37 demon you've probably had for at least half the game already.
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Jan 19, 2013 04:05
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But the super Pixie does come with a few open skillslots. So you can give her Pierce and Debilitate, if you want. Still not as boss as Metatron and Beelzebub, but close.
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Jan 19, 2013 04:25
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Daisoujou is pretty much the best demon in the game in terms of how long he's relevant (all loving game), so that's slightly unfair but it is pretty much the state of things for pixie.
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Jan 19, 2013 04:29
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Has it been announced what kind of combat is in Soul Hackers? I will get excited for it if combat doesn't take place on a grid. 
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Jan 19, 2013 04:30
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Boten Anna posted:Has it been announced what kind of combat is in Soul Hackers? I will get excited for it if combat doesn't take place on a grid. First-person row-based SMT2, IF..., Devil Summoner gameplay. No press-turn system.
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Jan 19, 2013 04:38
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dis astranagant posted:Daisoujou is pretty much the best demon in the game in terms of how long he's relevant (all loving game), so that's slightly unfair but it is pretty much the state of things for pixie. loving seriously. Has there even been a demon in any other SMT game who lasts as long as that guy?
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Jan 19, 2013 04:47
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ImpAtom posted:loving seriously. Has there even been a demon in any other SMT game who lasts as long as that guy? At his age, I'm surprised Daisoujou can even get it up.
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Jan 19, 2013 04:49
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Boten Anna posted:Has it been announced what kind of combat is in Soul Hackers? I will get excited for it if combat doesn't take place on a grid. Have you played Suikoden or Suikoden 2? It's kinda like that, except first person. It's nothing as finicky as Persona 1's battle system, since the only positioning you have to worry about is front row/back row.
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Jan 19, 2013 04:49
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ImpAtom posted:loving seriously. Has there even been a demon in any other SMT game who lasts as long as that guy?
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Jan 19, 2013 05:24
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TurnipFritter posted:Have you played Suikoden or Suikoden 2? It's kinda like that, except first person. It's nothing as finicky as Persona 1's battle system, since the only positioning you have to worry about is front row/back row. This sounds interesting then. For some reason I just can't do tactical RPGs. I couldn't stand the P1 remake just for the fighting, and despite trying a ton of times never got into FFT either. I'll have to keep my eye out, seems like something I might like if I don't expect Persona 5.
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Jan 19, 2013 05:30
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Nate RFB posted:Black Frost in P4? Even that kind of trails off, it just lasts longer than anything else. Daisoujou was with me from the moment he was recruitable up until Lucifer.
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Jan 19, 2013 05:40
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Boten Anna posted:This sounds interesting then. For some reason I just can't do tactical RPGs. I couldn't stand the P1 remake just for the fighting, and despite trying a ton of times never got into FFT either. I'll have to keep my eye out, seems like something I might like if I don't expect Persona 5. I wouldn't call it "interesting" but it shouldn't actively work against your enjoyment of the game like P1's battle system. Here's a video of the tutorial dungeon so you can sort of get an idea of what it's like: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUD-0ljHsec
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Jan 19, 2013 06:44
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ImpAtom posted:To clarify what this means: It's pretty easy to tell which one is sourced from the Pixie. It will always be the demon on the top of the list of Demons in your stock.
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Jan 19, 2013 06:59
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Does anyone happen to have that image collage of all the silly stuff you can say as the protag in DeSu2?
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