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Dolash posted:I can get not liking it when played straight, but what's wrong with a deconstruction of it? It's a persona actual people try to adopt, and the comic uses the characters of Dave and Dirk to examine the sort of issues these fronts usually hide. Because I find the archetype unpalatable, I find those that would idolize it to the point of imitating it similarly unpalatable. I sort of feel like Dave should poo poo or get off the pot, and while he'd shown signs of doing just that just prior to the scratch, all his appearances since then confirm that it's just the same ol' same ol'. Don't get me wrong, I don't dislike Dave, I just find most of the rest of the active cast more compelling at this point.
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Grrl Anachronism posted:I'm mounting everything on cardstock in preparation to cut them out and make fridge magnets. ... this is a fantastic idea. Thanks!
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Plom Bar posted:Because I find the archetype unpalatable, I find those that would idolize it to the point of imitating it similarly unpalatable. I sort of feel like Dave should poo poo or get off the pot, and while he'd shown signs of doing just that just prior to the scratch, all his appearances since then confirm that it's just the same ol' same ol'. I'd disagree strongly with the notion that Dave is the "same old same old" cool guy archetype. Dave has, since having been robbed of the barrier of computers, been shown for what he is more and more in his interactions with people face to face: A sort of awkward dork. I mean that in the best possible way, but he really is. He is not a cool kid. He's a daydreaming dork.
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Plom Bar posted:Because I find the archetype unpalatable, I find those that would idolize it to the point of imitating it similarly unpalatable. I sort of feel like Dave should poo poo or get off the pot, and while he'd shown signs of doing just that just prior to the scratch, all his appearances since then confirm that it's just the same ol' same ol'. Did you try having conversations with Dave during Meenahquest? It really showcases how much differently he acts in face-to-face conversation. He still acts pretty disinterested, but instead of speaking in short disconnected thoughts he expounds greatly on whatever he thinks about, to the point of boring Rose. He's also shown to be growing tired of the things he raps about with a lack of new material. I think that he's close to growing out of this coolguy shtick somewhat.
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So I was reading Problem Sleuth again and I found a funny coincidence/connection Pickle Inspector, the main Imagination user has a Suckle Amphora for use in his Comb Raves which connects him inadvertandly to two Hope players later on also named after Aquarius Just something to chew on between updates.
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Ariong posted:Did you try having conversations with Dave during Meenahquest? It really showcases how much differently he acts in face-to-face conversation. He still acts pretty disinterested, but instead of speaking in short disconnected thoughts he expounds greatly on whatever he thinks about, to the point of boring Rose. He's also shown to be growing tired of the things he raps about with a lack of new material. I think that he's close to growing out of this coolguy shtick somewhat. Dave has certainly changed over the course of his journey on the Makeout Meteor. It's not that he rambles more, but that he's more willing to expose his true feelings in the process. Hiding his emotions behind an unflappable veil of irony maybe doesn't seem as important to him now that he's not living with an extremely reserved person against whom he constantly judges himself. Those daily, humiliatingly one-sided swordfights were almost definitely not helping.
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^^^ Also, that.Plom Bar posted:while he'd shown signs of doing just that just prior to the scratch, all his appearances since then confirm that it's just the same ol' same ol'. But all his post-Scratch stuff has been nothing but that facade just crumbling like crazy.  Cool kids don't stand around mumbling to coffee makers.
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I thought we all agreed that Dave had been rendered obsolete by Dirk, like one of those sitcom characters that die in a bus crash and get replaced by their hip-hop cousin. Also, Koos is growing on me. He's always here for us, even when we don't want him to be. Bless you, Koos. Bloos.
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Dorroile posted:I thought we all agreed that Dave had been rendered obsolete by Dirk, like one of those sitcom characters that die in a bus crash and get replaced by their hip-hop cousin. We all understand that you like Dirk, but I'm not sure that you're quite seeing his flaws for what they are.
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When did we ever agree that Dave was obsolete for anything I certainly was never invited to that meeting
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Dirk's flaws: - Has only one sword (source needed)
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Dorroile posted:Dirk's flaws: - Hates himself vehemently - Has yet to discover how to have awesome hair while wearing a hat, like Bro (may be related to previous point)
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- Crippling dependence issues, masks this by trying to be in control of the situation at all times, strongly contributes to that second one
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Yet to rap about B-Rock Obama.
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Ablative posted:That raises another good point though: what happens if the Wall is in his sylladex when they go through it? Considering Casey the Salamander can become an inventory item and come out just fine, it shouldn't be a problem for the battleship to wind up in a captcha card adjacent to the Wall's card in Jake's sylladex.
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I love it when Koos posts because he's like everything I hate about Homestuck and people who like Homestuck rolled up into one neat little package. I just can't bring myself to hate him, and sometimes I wish when people ask me why I hate Homestuck fans despite being one that I could just point and say "because of Koos. Because we are all Koos." Because as much as you might try to deny it there is a little Koos in all of us.
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Tollymain posted:Looks like you got a little Koos on you Dude lets keep it PG in here
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Koos was in your heart all along. He was already there.
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Solaris Knight posted:So I was reading Problem Sleuth again and I found a funny coincidence/connection Amphora is just a Greek jug.
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Speaking of PS callbacks, I know I've said it before, but I've always thought it was neat how Jane's Persterchum handle was a callback to Problem Sleuth himself.
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Luminous Obscurity posted:^^^ Also, that. He was always a rambler, though. One of his very first conversations with John was him typing out a whole thing while John was AFK. I think the main change in Dave has been his willingness to admit he cares about people and their opinions.
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Oh man, finally got my Alpha pin set today. Time to slap Mutini right on my coat.
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That said, I'm still generally up for more interactions with the others.
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I tried to fight it, I really did. Like, i know i'll get charged crazy customs fees. They even loving fee you for the shipping. I know it was a bad decision. But I did it. I had to. I only bought it with Hussie's signature, though. 
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A funny PS callback would be Dirk's trickster mode being no different than his normal self, and the narration commenting on how lovely his imagination is.
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Plom Bar posted:Alright, I'm convinced that maybe I wasn't giving Dave enough credit. That's the ticket. Just wanted to make sure you didn't think he was flat.
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clockwork chaos posted:I'd love to see his trickster mode be Ace Dirk, as well. Make it Fiesta Ace Dirk and I sign.
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clockwork chaos posted:I'd love to see his trickster mode be Ace Dirk, as well. Dorroile posted:It's gonna turn out that ARquius was right, and that Dirk literally CAN'T be happy. And he just short-circuits the entire Trickster thing, like when one bulb goes out in one of those christmas lights things. You consume the trickster magic from your friends, Jake Jane and Roxy, finally transforming into one playful, crazy Dirk of unprecedented PULCHRITUDE. A phenomenal transformation takes place. You become... My God. YOU BECOME... Dirk. Really, you are just utterly astounded by how lovely your IMAGINATION is. If your IMAGINATION was a face you would punch it. In the face.
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To be fair, the Draconian Dignitary already made that reference. Still, Fiesta Ace Dirk would make EVERYTHING better.
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Got my tracking number on my 605 pledge package, incoming on Friday 1/25!
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Poor, sweet, dear Fefeta. honk
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Update. Poor, dear, sweet Fefeta 
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Alright that's one fewer abomination left. Now we just need Erisol to explode and these horrible mashups will be able to go back to living out their death in peace. I'd wish the same fate on Arquius but I don't think that would be fair to AR since I don't know what would happen to him in that case.
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No! Not poor, dear, sweet Fefeta!  Also I feel Dirk's break-up should have included a sassy fingersnap.
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