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KozmoNaut posted:Everything in Breaking Bad is sad and horrible, no exceptions. No, he cares about Jesse :[ edit: holy poo poo edit: what a bad episode jesus christ edit: that was awful oh my god Little Blue Couch has a new favorite as of 13:39 on Jan 21, 2013 |
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KozmoNaut posted:Everything in Breaking Bad is sad and horrible, no exceptions. I had a Facebook friend complain that BB was "relentless and nasty". I asked her exactly how cheerful she expected a show about a dying man's doomed attempt to keep his family together by secretly manufacturing drugs should be and she defriended me.
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# ? Jan 21, 2013 14:07 |
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The best mindset to watch Breaking Bad is that everything that seems good is doomed and everything that seems bad will be even worse. I think my reaction to most of it so far has been "goddammit Walter, you idiot. Why did you have to do that? Now everything's even more hosed up!".
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# ? Jan 21, 2013 14:11 |
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People who watch Breaking Bad for something happy are like the people who were furious that the Sopranos ended without Tony being held accountable for all his crimes. It's completely retarded and doesn't fit at all with the entire premise of the series.
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Cowslips Warren posted:Pretty easy to see, but in the witch's cottage in Brave, everything in the woodcarving shop is a bear in some form. Mugs, toys, etc. That scene also had a carved wooden Pizza Planet Truck on the worktable.
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Little Blue Couch posted:No, he cares about Jesse :[ Oh, just you wait.
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# ? Jan 21, 2013 20:04 |
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I don't think anything I've ever seen on TV has depressed me as much as that scene in Breaking Bad. You know the one. Ugh. I felt sick.
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Little Blue Couch posted:No, he cares about Jesse :[ There's a point in Breaking Bad where if you still think Walt is the good guy then you haven't been paying attention. priznat posted:I don't think anything I've ever seen on TV has depressed me as much as that scene in Breaking Bad. You know the one. Ugh. I felt sick. Is it the bit in season five with the dirt bike? Because if so, then yeah, same here. cock hero flux has a new favorite as of 20:31 on Jan 21, 2013 |
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priznat posted:Is it the bit in season five with the dirt bike? Because if so, then yeah, same here. I think here is that there are about half a dozen scenes every season that fit that description. Walt and Jane, Walt and Brock, Walt and Hank, Walt and Skyler, Walt and Gus...
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Dauntasa posted:Is it the bit in season five with the dirt bike? Because if so, then yeah, same here. Breaking Bad did a good job that episode because you watch the opening and wonder, how is that going to come into play? The episode goes and you've forgotten about that bit. It finally becomes relevant and you just go oh
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Sagebrush posted:I think here is that there are about half a dozen scenes every season that fit that description. Not Walt and Gus. Maybe Walt and Hector. Although really as far as Walt's crimes go killing 2 other killers isn't that bad. If that was all he'd done you could still call Walt an anti-hero.
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# ? Jan 21, 2013 21:10 |
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Walt and Hector and Gus and the pipe bomb was one of the best scenes in the whole show. Hector's actor portrays that final expression of all-consuming, utterly incendiary wrath so perfectly. I guess I was thinking more about the general Walt-Gus relationship ever since the box cutter incident. Both sides of that are just creepy as gently caress.
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Cowslips Warren posted:Pretty easy to see, but in the witch's cottage in Brave, everything in the woodcarving shop is a bear in some form. Mugs, toys, etc. Except for the Pizza Planet truck.
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# ? Jan 21, 2013 21:31 |
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The movie Lars and the Real Girl is about an incredibly socially awkward guy. There is a scene that shows Lars getting ready to meet his real doll by trying to look nice. He looks in the mirror and says "That's a nice sweater." Then in the next scene he is wearing a different sweater. He was just so nervous
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Dauntasa posted:Is it the bit in season five with the dirt bike? Because if so, then yeah, same here. Yup, that bothered me a lot and still does. I had been growing my revulsion of Walt up til that point (pretty much since the first season really) but drat. That was just awful. Go Hank Go
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THE JORY posted:The movie Lars and the Real Girl is about an incredibly socially awkward guy. There is a scene that shows Lars getting ready to meet his real doll by trying to look nice. He looks in the mirror and says "That's a nice sweater." Then in the next scene he is wearing a different sweater. He was just so nervous I presume that you don't mean the sex toy kind of real doll.
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Ariong posted:I presume that you don't mean the sex toy kind of real doll. someone has not seen this movie.
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Ariong posted:I presume that you don't mean the sex toy kind of real doll. No, that's exactly what the movie's about.
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Ariong posted:I presume that you don't mean the sex toy kind of real doll. That is, in fact, the exact kind of Real Doll they're talking about.
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And yet Ryan Gosling manages to pull it off. fakeedit: Also kudos to the directors/writers/whatever for not making the movie turn into some hack comedy about some sad dude and his gently caress toy. It would have been really easy to do that.
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nutranurse posted:And yet Ryan Gosling manages to pull it off. But watching Drive afterwards sure is different
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# ? Jan 21, 2013 22:33 |
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Ry Gos is a drat good actor and I'm excited to see him and Emma Stone reunite in Gang Squad.
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Nemesis Of Moles posted:That is, in fact, the exact kind of Real Doll they're talking about. It's the that threw me off. The object and the emote just don't mesh. creepy dead-eyed fuckdolls
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Snowglobe of Doom posted:I had a Facebook friend complain that BB was "relentless and nasty". I asked her exactly how cheerful she expected a show about a dying man's doomed attempt to keep his family together by secretly manufacturing drugs should be and she defriended me. I have a friend who was put off watching it by the fact that a good 90% of the cast list is pretty much irredeemable. She can't really bring herself to watch a show that features no one she can sympathise with. For content, something I noticed when watching Alien Resurrection for the first time in years last week: Ripley's nails are the same colour/sheen as the teeth of the other Aliens. It's almost a subliminal reminder of what she really is throughout the entire film.
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# ? Jan 23, 2013 20:54 |
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Little Blue Couch posted:I'm watching ep 19 of the second season of Breaking Bad, What kind of hosed up TV sorcery is this?
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^^^^ Fitting username for the point I'm making Kaboom Dragoon posted:I have a friend who was put off watching it by the fact that a good 90% of the cast list is pretty much irredeemable. She can't really bring herself to watch a show that features no one she can sympathise with. Don't forget about Hank! I know he seems like a boisterous annoying braggart in the beginning, but he's such a great character with a lot more depth than you'd think. I started off not liking him at all, but he definitely grew on me and he's by far the most sympathetic character on BB. Dean Norris does such a great job playing him.
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# ? Jan 23, 2013 21:21 |
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Yeah, Hank is great. I mean yeah he did beat the crap out of Jesse and he's pretty mean to Marie after he gets shot but overall he's one of the most consistently normal characters in a cast of incredibly flawed people. Jesse is also pretty likeable when he's not getting back on the horse for one reason or another
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Ariong posted:It's the that threw me off. The object and the emote just don't mesh. It's different in the movie, though. The guy is just a loner who no one pays attention to, especially girls. He buys a realdoll thing and it becomes his 'girlfriend'. He never bangs it or anything like that; she 'sleeps' in a separate room and he makes plans to marry 'her'. Eventually the town comes to accept that there's something broken with him and he's really not hurting anyone and in turn take 'her' in as one of their own. Later, he begins to realize that 'she' isn't real but can't admit it to himself, much less the townspeople so he has her get 'sick' and eventually die. He then goes on to start seeing one of the girls in the town. After writing it all out it does sound ridiculous but just watch the god drat movie, it's really good.
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Sagebrush posted:Yeah, Hank is great. I mean yeah he did beat the crap out of Jesse The thing is, he did that but he also did the right thing in dealing with the consequences. Which makes him pretty much unique on that show.
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Sagebrush posted:Yeah, Hank is great. I mean yeah he did beat the crap out of Jesse and he's pretty mean to Marie after he gets shot but overall he's one of the most consistently normal characters in a cast of incredibly flawed people. I saw the latter as mostly impotent frustration over how he was unable to perform even basic tasks such as going to the bathroom or having sex, especially considering his previous macho facade of self-sufficiency and never having to ask for help. And it really helped him grow as a character.
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To re-rail this just a little bit, Django Unchained, the horse that Jamie Foxx uses throughout the majority movie, is actually his horse. Also, at the end of the dinner scene, Calvin Candie smashes some glass on the table and ends up cutting open his hand. The only catch being that this wasn't scripted and not a special effect; Leo really cut open his hand. So a moment later, when he is manhandling Brunhilde and he smears blood all over her? Yeah, that's the real deal. EDIT:VVV Yeah, that would be a whole lot less illegal wouldn't it? Still, props to the guy for finishing the scene. Since that's trivia, and not really subtle though, how about this: At the beginning of the movie, Django speaks in a halting, almost stuttering manner, with an unrefined, dirty quality. Understandable for a period movie and playing an uneducated slave. But by the last act of the film, most notably when speaking with the slavers from the mining company, his speech patterns are clear and very easily understood. CzarChasm has a new favorite as of 22:25 on Jan 23, 2013 |
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CzarChasm posted:To re-rail this just a little bit, Django Unchained, the horse that Jamie Foxx uses throughout the majority movie, is actually his horse. No, that scene was most likely inserted later. Cutting his hand was real, and they finished the scene with his hand cut like that, but someone probably had the idea to add the insert afterwards. It would be all kinds of dangerous and illegal if he really did that.
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KozmoNaut posted:I saw the latter as mostly impotent frustration over how he was unable to perform even basic tasks such as going to the bathroom or having sex, especially considering his previous macho facade of self-sufficiency and never having to ask for help. And it really helped him grow as a character. Oh, I agree absolutely, but seeing him be so mean to his wife makes it hard to sympathize with him through those episodes. Like I said, every character in the show is a mess; he's just the least big mess overall. Also he was totally able to have sex, I thought that was made pretty drat clear by that scene you know I'm talking about. Breaking Bad chat should probably go in the appropriate TVIV thread though.
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# ? Jan 23, 2013 22:17 |
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I'm one of those rear end in a top hat's that liked Walt up until Season 5. It took me that long before I finally went "you know what, this guys being a dick."
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MindlessHavok posted:It's different in the movie, though. The guy is just a loner who no one pays attention to, especially girls. He buys a realdoll thing and it becomes his 'girlfriend'. He never bangs it or anything like that; she 'sleeps' in a separate room and he makes plans to marry 'her'. Eventually the town comes to accept that there's something broken with him and he's really not hurting anyone and in turn take 'her' in as one of their own. Later, he begins to realize that 'she' isn't real but can't admit it to himself, much less the townspeople so he has her get 'sick' and eventually die. He then goes on to start seeing one of the girls in the town. Huh, I must have missed something because I didn't really think that Lars realized she was fake What made you think that?
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# ? Jan 23, 2013 22:51 |
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peer posted:(Usual Suspects) There's also one quick moment where the agent acts like he's going to punch Verbal, and Verbal instinctively raises his lame arm to deflect the blow. This is from a way back, but yeah. Also, Soze is left-handed. When Verbal is given a lighter, he tries to light it with his right, non-lame arm and can't manage it with that hand. There's also a moment (I think it might be the same moment) where Verbal accidentally admits to killing Keaton while Kujan is yelling at him, and he panics for a microsecond but manages to disguise it as a slip of the tongue, amending it to "I did see Keaton get shot!". There's a bunch of subtle stuff in that movie, actually. Verbal notes near the beginning of the movie that when he's dehydrated his urine comes out thick and lumpy - the first shot of Keyser Soze is his thick, lumpy urine stream pissing out a fire on the boat. Keyser Soze has a Turkish mother and a German father and his name translates roughly from Turkish and German to mean "King Blabbermouth". Verbal Kint got his name because he talks too much.
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Heres Hank posted:What kind of hosed up TV sorcery is this? It was episode 19 of the show overall, my bad.
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nutranurse posted:And yet Ryan Gosling manages to pull it off. MindlessHavok posted:It's different in the movie, though. The guy is just a loner who no one pays attention to, especially girls. He buys a realdoll thing and it becomes his 'girlfriend'. He never bangs it or anything like that; she 'sleeps' in a separate room and he makes plans to marry 'her'. Eventually the town comes to accept that there's something broken with him and he's really not hurting anyone and in turn take 'her' in as one of their own. Later, he begins to realize that 'she' isn't real but can't admit it to himself, much less the townspeople so he has her get 'sick' and eventually die. He then goes on to start seeing one of the girls in the town. To be fair, put some pretty man like Gosling in that role and it's a LOT easier to buy that the town of locals would want a reasonably smart and good-looking young fella to succeed when his only major "defect" is that he's too socially awkward to connect with real women--put a Patton Oswald or a Danny McBride in that role and at least half of the same townspeople would be convinced he was a pedophile on general principle and begrudgingly give him a chance if any gave him one at all.
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Leovinus posted:This is from a way back, but yeah. Also, Soze is left-handed. When Verbal is given a lighter, he tries to light it with his right, non-lame arm and can't manage it with that hand. I've always wondered if the names mean much in that movie. In german, Kint sounds just like Kind, so--talkative child. Fenster's German for window, maybe something to do with the character being transparent? And McManus would mean son of the hand. Edit: Hockney and Fenster might have something to do with hock and fence, in the parlance, since these guys rob people. Anyway I've got no grand theory of it, but I always thought there was something more to the names. Mescal has a new favorite as of 11:22 on Jan 24, 2013 |
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mind the walrus posted:To be fair, put some pretty man like Gosling in that role and it's a LOT easier to buy that the town of locals would want a reasonably smart and good-looking young fella to succeed when his only major "defect" is that he's too socially awkward to connect with real women--put a Patton Oswald or a Danny McBride in that role and at least half of the same townspeople would be convinced he was a pedophile on general principle and begrudgingly give him a chance if any gave him one at all. Oh man, watch out Hollywood because this guy is onto you!
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