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So I've got about a week left to get in 30 hours of CLE by the end of the month. How hosed am I?
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Jan 25, 2013 01:55
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gret posted:So I've got about a week left to get in 30 hours of CLE by the end of the month. How hosed am I? Website that poo poo. I just realized that the "live in person" portion of my cle can be fullfilled by watching recordings of past events online.  Put sporting game on tv, click play on laptop, profit.
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Jan 25, 2013 01:58
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xxEightxx posted:Website that poo poo. I just realized that the "live in person" portion of my cle can be fullfilled by watching recordings of past events online. That would be unethical, you should watch something like Suits or Law and Order.
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Jan 25, 2013 01:59
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I usually put recordings on to listen to when I draw, but then I stopped after I accidentally drew Paul Ryan
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Jan 25, 2013 02:03
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Bro Enlai posted:I usually put recordings on to listen to when I draw, but then I stopped after I accidentally drew Paul Ryan Have you ever done any Warhammer-themed law comics? If not I would formally like to request a Warhammer law comic. 40k.
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Jan 25, 2013 02:59
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Jove posted:First day of arraignments for my pd clinical. Trials are the biggest rush of adrenaline in history; it can be, at least for me, like having a fight or flight response going on all day long for a week or so. I'm going to wear out my adrenal glands at this rate. Also you can get habituated to the anxiety of it pretty easily. Over time you will end up in a series of events that are absolutely ludicrous and terrifying and things that will quickly become second nature. I don't think you could surreptitiously write a book revealing all the real conversations you have with your clients and actually be taken seriously. As an aside: the number of times I've had to explain to clients that are accused of raping their child that consent isn't a defense is unsettling. The number isn't high, mind you, but anything over 0 is unsettling to me in this regard. Torpor fucked around with this message at 05:02 on Jan 25, 2013 |
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Jan 25, 2013 03:56
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Torpor posted:Trials are the biggest rush of adrenaline in history; it can be, at least for me, like having a fight or flight response going on all day long for a week or so. I'm going to wear out my adrenal glands at this rate. At our orientation at my current job, one of the older PDs said it best "This is a crazy loving job, a great job, but loving crazy." Speaking of that, does anyone know a PD who doesn't curse like a sailor basically every moment they're not in court? I think if you don't curse, you probably have to go do a boring soul sucking job like tax, patents, or being a DA. (For the record, most DAs also curse like sailors.)
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Jan 25, 2013 07:29
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I love it when 0L's accuse those advising them not to go to law school to be doing so because they are afraid said 0L's will eventually take their jobs.
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Jan 25, 2013 16:26
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nm posted:At our orientation at my current job, one of the older PDs said it best "This is a crazy loving job, a great job, but loving crazy." Patent lawyers also curse. A lot. (Prosecutors might not, but if you only do prosecution, you are only sort of a lawyer.)
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Jan 25, 2013 16:40
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insanityv2 posted:I love it when 0L's accuse those advising them not to go to law school to be doing so because they are afraid said 0L's will eventually take their jobs. I overheard my boss the other day: We're happy but not ecstatic about HolySwissCheese's work. I say we keep him around until 2017. There's a hotshot history senior at Notre Dame I met last week, and I bet we could bring him in once he finishes law school and then we'll fire HolySwissCheese.
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Jan 25, 2013 16:41
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nm posted:At our orientation at my current job, one of the older PDs said it best "This is a crazy loving job, a great job, but loving crazy." And don't forget gallows humor. This morning's gem, riffing on police interrogation techniques: "I know, I bet she was looking pretty provocative ... in that diaper."
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Jan 25, 2013 16:44
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xxEightxx posted:Website that poo poo. I just realized that the "live in person" portion of my cle can be fullfilled by watching recordings of past events online. Just make sure not to ignore it completely because some webcasts make you answer a question or enter an ID number in the middle to make sure you're there.
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Jan 25, 2013 16:53
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nm posted:At our orientation at my current job, one of the older PDs said it best "This is a crazy loving job, a great job, but loving crazy." One of the attorneys I worked with at my clerkship over the summer was pretty restrained, it was kind of impressive. Our chief made up for it and then some extra in that department though.
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Jan 25, 2013 17:46
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Torpor posted:Also you can get habituated to the anxiety of it pretty easily. Over time you will end up in a series of events that are absolutely ludicrous and terrifying and things that will quickly become second nature. I don't think you could surreptitiously write a book revealing all the real conversations you have with your clients and actually be taken seriously. I'm in bankruptcy instead of crim, so it's a far lower temperature but this fits exactly. I've just gotten used to walking into court thinking "Man, it'd be nice if I didn't lose my client's house today". That used to bother me for some reason. Every day I'm going over the personal spending choices of the self-selected few. It's not child rape defense, but I'm routinely talking people out of going on a fraudulent spending spree the week before they file bankruptcy. "Is it worth a felony to buy that go-cart with a bad check?" (unconvinced) "Yes, they will take the go-cart back" (convinced)
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Jan 25, 2013 18:38
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HolySwissCheese posted:Sounds like a bunch of billable hours if you read every last comma. Unless you are an associate in a large law firm, billable hours are only good if someone actually ends up paying for them.
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Jan 25, 2013 19:52
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SlyFrog posted:Unless you are an associate in a large law firm, billable hours are only good if someone actually ends up paying for them. The solo/small firm's lament. God, if I could get all my client's to pay me? I don't know what I'd do with myself.
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Jan 25, 2013 20:02
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insanityv2 posted:I love it when 0L's accuse those advising them not to go to law school to be doing so because they are afraid said 0L's will eventually take their jobs. Only if my job is not getting paid to apply to jobs.
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Jan 25, 2013 20:54
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woozle wuzzle posted:I'm in bankruptcy instead of crim, so it's a far lower temperature but this fits exactly. I've just gotten used to walking into court thinking "Man, it'd be nice if I didn't lose my client's house today". That used to bother me for some reason. Every day I'm going over the personal spending choices of the self-selected few. It's not child rape defense, but I'm routinely talking people out of going on a fraudulent spending spree the week before they file bankruptcy. "Is it worth a felony to buy that go-cart with a bad check?" (unconvinced) "Yes, they will take the go-cart back" (convinced) But Woozle, how will they ever know!
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Jan 25, 2013 21:31
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Kalman posted:Patent lawyers also curse. A lot. (Prosecutors might not, but if you only do prosecution, you are only sort of a lawyer.) gently caress you, we try cases for a living. Lots of them.
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Jan 25, 2013 23:01
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LLCoolJD posted:gently caress you, we try cases for a living. Lots of them. God I'm so jealous of your name. I need it as a license plate.
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Jan 25, 2013 23:07
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LLCoolJD posted:gently caress you, we try cases for a living. Lots of them. Patent prosecutors, my friend. Not criminal.
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Jan 25, 2013 23:13
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Kalman posted:Patent lawyers also curse. A lot. (Prosecutors might not, but if you only do prosecution, you are only sort of a lawyer.) LLCoolJD posted:gently caress you, we try cases for a living. Lots of them. Kalman posted:Patent prosecutors, my friend. Not criminal. Truth be told, a guy with a shotgun and a barrel of fish is only sort of a fisherman.
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Jan 25, 2013 23:39
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 They've since took it down, and apologized. https://twitter.com/KaplanBarReview/status/294917995904512000 A: Also they got reddit mad and anything that gets reddit mad, I approve of: http://www.reddit.com/r/LawSchool/comments/179z0f/screw_you_kaplan/
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Jan 26, 2013 00:07
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Perhaps we should strike out "Started out Barrister" from the thread title to eliminate the intermediate step that apparently no longer exists?
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Jan 26, 2013 00:09
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insanityv2 posted:
I didn't see anything else there besides that rack.
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CmdrSmirnoff posted:God I'm so jealous of your name. I need it as a license plate. I didn't come up with it, I was just the first Goon to use it. Kalman posted:Patent prosecutors, my friend. Not criminal. Ah okay, my mistake. The cursing was there to prove we do curse, by the way, and not to start an internet fight.
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Jan 26, 2013 00:38
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Can we add this to the OP please
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Jan 26, 2013 01:28
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That Reddit thread with people crying about how inappropriate it was to post that is hilarious.
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Jan 26, 2013 01:29
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Kalman posted:Patent lawyers also curse. A lot. (Prosecutors might not, but if you only do prosecution, you are only sort of a lawyer.) Not even a "gently caress the Japanese?" Hire a loving human being to read your application before you file it tia
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Jan 26, 2013 04:29
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Baruch Obamawitz posted:Not even a "gently caress the Japanese?" Hire a loving human being to read your application before you file it tia I feel like this statement also applies to office actions.
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Jan 26, 2013 06:41
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Baruch Obamawitz posted:Not even a "gently caress the Japanese?" Hire a loving human being to read your application before you file it tia A poo poo translator can't be that expensive, can it?
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I was talking to an undergrad today after a lab meeting. She's an econ major and I asked her what she was planning to do after college. "Well, I used to think I wanted to be an investment banker," she said, "but I've been reading Too Big To Fail and other books and they just seem like terrible people. Obsessed with prestige and taking advantage of folks and work consuming their lives." I nodded. So now what, I asked. "I'm thinking of going to law school."
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Petey posted:I was talking to an undergrad today after a lab meeting. She's an econ major and I asked her what she was planning to do after college. "Well, I used to think I wanted to be an investment banker," she said, "but I've been reading Too Big To Fail and other books and they just seem like terrible people. Obsessed with prestige and taking advantage of folks and work consuming their lives." If you have no work, it can't consume your life. Sounds like a good decision. 
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Petey posted:I was talking to an undergrad today after a lab meeting. She's an econ major and I asked her what she was planning to do after college. "Well, I used to think I wanted to be an investment banker," she said, "but I've been reading Too Big To Fail and other books and they just seem like terrible people. Obsessed with prestige and taking advantage of folks and work consuming their lives." I've been reading, too. The legal profession is like the novel The Road, with law jobs being hidden stashes of food. Sir John Falstaff posted:If you have no work, it can't consume your life. Sounds like a good decision. "I'll be top 10%. I just know it."
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Baruch Obamawitz posted:Not even a "gently caress the Japanese?" Hire a loving human being to read your application before you file it tia Trust me, you're not seeing the worst of it. The applications are clean compared to their "instructions" sometimes. Also why won't they stop using fax machines 
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Jan 26, 2013 16:05
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Petey posted:Obsessed with prestige and taking advantage of folks and work consuming their lives." I know you're just being funny and it is funny. But I actually object to the insinuation that lawyers categorically take advantage of people. I treat every client during every interaction with as much respect, dignity and benefit of the doubt as I possibly can, and that's not merely a product of my age because I see lots of even ancient attorneys at my firm who do the same. I also do see plenty of people who cheat, pad and duplicate bill but also plenty who just don't, or who give discounts when things go wrong, or who make deals for people who cannot afford to do otherwise. There a billion disheartening and awful things about being a lawyer and there are also plenty of shitheap vulture attorneys but there is still a lot of room to do good in this profession
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Jan 26, 2013 16:42
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Feces Starship posted:I know you're just being funny and it is funny. But I actually object to the insinuation that lawyers categorically take advantage of people. I know, and I agree. I meant it more on a joke on her idealism and naiveté and a sign that the work of this thread is not yet done. Or, if she's less of a naif than I thought, it's an even more damning indictment on investment bankers (that they are so terrible that even the "billion disheartening and awful things" looks attractive by comparison).
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Petey posted:Or, if she's less of a naif than I thought, it's an even more damning indictment on investment bankers (that they are so terrible that even the "billion disheartening and awful things" looks attractive by comparison). As someone who spent 3 months doing doc review in a Lehman Bros case, I can confirm that Investment Bankers are much worse than lawyers.
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