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TenementFunster posted:I sincerely hope you get a brain injury and lose the ability to type very soon so you don't put others at risk by giving out dangerously bad advice. More bikes on the road isn't going to protect your head, and all the fragile poo poo contained within, in a fall or collision. Everyone else should wear a helmet. It would take an incredible uptick in fatality numbers for bike deaths to even matter. You could quadruple the current average number of bicycle fatalities overnight and that's still less than 3000 people a year out of over 2.5 million It's bad public policy, the chronic diseases that bike helmet laws are being paid for thanks to decreased ridership are more expensive and more debilitating than the occasional traumatic death, or even the occasional surviving invalid.  Even actively advocating helmet use is bad policy because it might make cycling seem like a dangerous activity, keeping people off of bikes. No reason to campaign against it but no reason to waste money promoting it. This is also why ghost bikes area terrible loving idea, all they do is remind people that "hey, I could die if I do that!" 
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You know who else rode bikes? That's right... (Shut the gently caress up about bikes)
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I love the notion that wearing a helmet increases the risk of head injuries. It's because with the helmet you get to live with an injury instead of being fucken dead. 
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Iceberg-Slim posted:2 things. First, that regression is hilariously bad. Second, the argument you've made is that helmets = less riders and less riders = more fatalities, therefore helmets = more fatalities, which is also hilariously bad. That really wasn't my argument. I'm saying that helmet laws = less riders which means more accidents. Cars see riders less, cars are unused to bike behavior, etc. We should do everything we can to get more bikes on the streets; it's good for our health and environment and blah blah blah. That includes letting people make the decision to wear a helmet on their own. Because if you don't let them make that decision, then fewer people ride (for a multitude of reasons) and if there are fewer people riding then things are more dangerous for everyone.  edit: Just to be clear I'm not arguing that wearing a helmet makes you less safe. That is obviously not true. But what I'm saying is that legislating a helmet law makes the environment for biking less safe by removing riders from the pool. Everyone should wear a helmet but our government shouldn't force the issue because it's actually counter-productive. Fender fucked around with this message at 18:57 on Jan 26, 2013 |
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Seat belt laws have made me too terrified to drive a car.
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Earth fucked around with this message at 21:35 on Jun 18, 2014 |
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Earth posted:"With 10,000 participants from all over the country and the world, Ragbrai is most likely the oldest and the largest bike ride on earth." On the other hand, the Dutch Cyclists organisation says "Bicycle helmets are not the solution" to decreasing deaths among cyclists, and they represent millions of people that cycle daily in the Netherlands, not 10.000 people in one recreational bike ride. (http://www.fietsersbond.nl/node/3536) Seriously, helmet, gloves and a mirror? What you guys need is infrastructure. 
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american_bicycle_culture.flv https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3nMnr8ZirI PLA (chinese) soldiers escort PAVN (vietanmese) p.o.w's during the 1979 Sino-Vietnamese war 
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Earth fucked around with this message at 21:35 on Jun 18, 2014 |
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I think when it comes to big public cycling events, there is more of a push by organizers to get people to wear helmets, not only because there may be a bunch of people involved who usually don't ever cycle, but no one wants their event to be overshadowed by a news story about someone who died in it. The local groups here usually have helmet rules for organized rides, and of course their members wear helmets during them, yet at the same time just about none of the people who cycle regularly actually wear helmets during normal commuting. If you're in Tampa though, you should definitely wear a helmet, because you might run into this loving thing. Imagine hitting a police car, except that police car is actually an armored personal carrier.  e: Yes, kids should always wear helmets. Amused to Death fucked around with this message at 19:27 on Jan 26, 2013 |
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Jan 26, 2013 19:23
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All I said was that kids should wear helmets.  Can we all agree that helmets for kids under the age of 13 is a good idea?  I hate you all. ekuNNN posted:On the other hand, the Dutch Cyclists organisation says "Bicycle helmets are not the solution" to decreasing deaths among cyclists, and they represent millions of people that cycle daily in the Netherlands, not 10.000 people in one recreational bike ride. (http://www.fietsersbond.nl/node/3536) Seriously, helmet, gloves and a mirror? What you guys need is infrastructure. Sorry, I don't live in a country that actually gives a poo poo about things like modernized infrastructure, education, healthcare, or anything else that Europeans take for granted. I live in America. 
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How many seconds can you go https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6eKnSGn914M
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People arguing in favor of traumatic brain injuries ITT. Between that and someone unironically using the phrase "check your privilege" on that last page, I'd say we've reached peak DnD.
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az posted:How many seconds can you go Pretty sure calling yourself a hipster immediately makes you not one, double dip in fail sauce girl. 
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Rhandhali posted:Even actively advocating helmet use is bad policy because it might make cycling seem like a dangerous activity, keeping people off of bikes. No reason to campaign against it but no reason to waste money promoting it. This is also why ghost bikes area terrible loving idea, all they do is remind people that "hey, I could die if I do that!" rope kid fucked around with this message at 00:36 on Jan 27, 2013 |
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Volcott posted:People arguing in favor of traumatic brain injuries ITT. Between that and someone unironically using the phrase "check your privilege" on that last page, I'd say we've reached peak DnD. No, I think it's mostly this, and it probably applies to you as well; Crasscrab posted:Sorry, I don't live in a country that actually gives a poo poo about things like modernized infrastructure, education, healthcare, or anything else that Europeans take for granted. I live in America. Helicopters that look like something out of a nintendo war game, from the Korean War.   General Douglas MacArthur and Dr. Syngman Rhee, first president of Korea. I feel like I should learn more about the Korean war.  This guy was wearing a helmet, didn't seem like that helped him much.   I was looking for a half-remembered UN propaganda poster from the Korean War era, celebrating the togetherness of the nations fighting in Korea, but I was unable to find it. Found this neat brit WW2 poster instead.  edit: Another one, this time from 1915.. Somehow, I kind of doubt this was representative of the women of Britain. Bohemian Nights fucked around with this message at 19:52 on Jan 26, 2013 |
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Earth fucked around with this message at 21:35 on Jun 18, 2014 |
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Americans aren't to be trusted without helmets. That said, I think they shouldn't wear them because I want them to die
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Talking about bicycles and fatalities, I always found the following news story like a bad jokequote:UPPER MARLBORO, Md. — A Green Party candidate running for U.S. Senate in Maryland has died after being hit by an SUV while riding her bike. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/09/21/natasha-pettigrew-green-p_n_733533.html Green party candidate, bicycle, SUV, dead. In german we'd call something like this "Realsatire" - basically when reality reaches some meta-level and manages to make fun of itself. 
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midnightclimax posted:Talking about bicycles and fatalities, I always found the following news story like a bad joke The person who killed her got a sentence of less than a year, FYI. Killing a minority woman: not a crime in the USA. Local black community weekly paper sent their lone Republican to Tampa for the convention a few months ago: 
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I get the idea they accidentally switched the ? and ! e: Here's the mandatory CA-model bicycle helmet. 
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"Klimt in Syria" by Syrian artist Tammam Azzam: https://www.facebook.com/tammam.azzam The original: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Kiss_%28Klimt%29 az jan jananam fucked around with this message at 21:41 on Jan 26, 2013 |
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Just saw this on the back of a pickup truck on 480 outside Cleveland, Ohio: I was consumed with a desire to murder, or at least damage property.
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I ride a motorcycle and the ineptitude and blindness to motorcycles that I see every ride means that I never ride my bicycle in the street. I use the sidewalk because I don't trust drivers to see me and I'm not comfortable sharing space with cars if I'm not moving faster than them. Funnily enough, riding on the sidewalk is illegal here, but helmets aren't legislated. Also ironically to some, I don't usually wear safety gear on my bicycle. Head trauma can happen at any speed, yes, but as other posters were pointing out, I find the hazard of cars to be a much larger worry. Getting more people on bicycles means changing the public perception of them and I don't know how to do that. Here, if you ride a bicycle, people just assume you're destitute or have a license suspension. This was a childhood friend of mine. He was killed a year ago when he was hit by a car while cycling home from work.  edit: Not really meaning to respark debate, just offering an example of how ridiculous it can be to ride a bicycle in areas of the US. The majority of car drivers just don't give a gently caress, and while I'm not one of those "crazy riders" that car people like to whine about, I don't blame those guys for the way they ride. I value riding in ways that keep me safe way more than following laws that treat bicycles as cars and and put me at the mercy of inattentive drivers. VVVVV nsaP fucked around with this message at 22:35 on Jan 26, 2013 |
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Earth posted:199 seconds, in other words, the whole thing. It was painful at a few times, but found it funny for the most part. From reading some of your posts I don't think that would be a good idea on your part. At the very least its a glass house situation. Also is bikechat still going? 
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midnightclimax posted:Talking about bicycles and fatalities, I always found the following news story like a bad joke A bygone era where cyclists ruled the streets with an iron fist, shooting annoying dogs with impunity 
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nsaP posted:Getting more people on bicycles means changing the public perception of them and I don't know how to do that. Here, if you ride a bicycle, people just assume you're destitute or have a license suspension. The best form of bicycle activism is to just ride your bicycle, and not on the sidewalks  You win this round Canada.
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Bicycle rifle? Pffff. The glorious Swedish army had honest-to-god bicycle infantry battalions well into the 1990's. Observe:  For longer distance transports, the bike infantry is normally towed by a tractor.  Mount for carrying the squad's machine gun on a bike.  Medevac bikes; a stretcher is mounted between them. The soldiers of the bicycle recon platoon normally travel ahead of the main force, and most of them have either a pair of anti-tank mines on the handle bar or a recoilless rifle on their back. If enemy armor is encountered, the book says to fire a red flare to alert the main force, drop the mines on the road and set up the recoilless rifle on side of the road. Yes, this was an actual thing that was practiced for real. (I ride my bike to work most days, at least in summer. It owns, but it's a bit of a pain when there's a shitton of snow everywhere so I take the lazy way out and ride the subway instead in winter.) TheFluff fucked around with this message at 22:45 on Jan 26, 2013 |
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I would carry a recoilless if I had to ride in the US too. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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The French knew what was up: e: VVV Ha!  VVV
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evil_bunnY posted:I would carry a recoilless if I had to ride in the US too. Unfortunately this one is motorized, but perhaps it fits?  (French paratroopers used these vespas in Algeria in the 50's.) edit: gently caress, beaten
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Truly, bicyclists have suffered more hardship than any other group in human history. The streets, like love, are a battlefield.
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Volcott posted:Truly, bicyclists have suffered more hardship than any other group in human history. The streets, like love, are a battlefield. They are the Jews of the transportation world. 
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The Something Awful Forums > Discussion > Debate & Discussion > DnD Pictures Thread (if you're talking about flags or bikes or helmets shut the gently caress up already no one cares)
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Rev. Bleech_ posted:The Something Awful Forums > Discussion > Debate & Discussion > DnD Pictures Thread (if you're talking about flags or bikes or helmets shut the gently caress up already no one cares) Yeah, to be honest the bikechat is getting a bit yawnsome.  A TV station's minivan is set on fire by protesters outside Port Said Prison. The protests are in response to the Egyptian court sentencing 21 people to death for their involvement in soccer riots last year. 30 people have died in the protests so far.
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