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Tezcatlipoca posted:That's nothing compared to the mata leon. BJJ breeds a culture of animal cruelty. Violence towards triangles are also a serious issue.
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I call it the foot burrito and it works like a charm against little brothers before they get as big as you.
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I remember someone in the b-league thread talking poo poo about rich clementi because he got caught in a toehold (in 2012!) and that he should retire because of that and solely that. Maybe there should be a technique thread or something with diagrams and arrows and the wrestler guys can post about the physics of the F5 or whatever.
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fatherdog posted:It's not called anything, because competent grapplers don't bother with useless crap like that. Ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha 
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I don't understand how a bow and arrow can possibly be an effective tool in a grappling match.
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CivilDisobedience posted:Ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha Oh dear, the sting of being laughed at by somebody who doesn't know what a toehold is.
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How do you scarf choke someone when they're not wearing a scarf?
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CivilDisobedience posted:Ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha fake edit: When doing a baseball bat choke, should I be using wood or aluminium?
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fatherdog posted:Oh dear, the sting of being laughed at by somebody who doesn't know what a toehold is. I know what they are, I just don't know what you'd call them since you're already using the term 'toehold' to refer to a footlock variation.
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Jan 26, 2013 21:42
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Its not called anything because if you hold the toes you are doing the toehold wrong.
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Ask Cort x Bomb what the toe breaker secret move is im sure there is a pro wrestling match where it worked
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CivilDisobedience posted:I know what they are, I just don't know what you'd call them since you're already using the term 'toehold' to refer to a footlock variation. Severe Penalty (Small Joint Manipulation) manyak posted:Ask Cort x Bomb what the toe breaker secret move is im sure there is a pro wrestling match where it worked Taratang fucked around with this message at 21:58 on Jan 26, 2013 |
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Taratang posted:Severe Penalty (Small Joint Manipulation) Haven't seen many penalties given out in this tournament, how would that work? v You're adorable CivilDisobedience fucked around with this message at 22:34 on Jan 26, 2013 |
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Yeah they should definitely have given out penalties to some of those illegal submissions they did, like Edit: Shame on sneaky edits. Pooned fucked around with this message at 22:19 on Jan 26, 2013 |
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manyak posted:Ask Cort x Bomb what the toe breaker secret move is im sure there is a pro wrestling match where it worked Nah nobody does silly poo poo like that even in pro wrestling. Maybe like when Raven broke Sick Boy or Scotty Riggs' fingers, but that's just called breaking a guy's fingers.
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CivilDisobedience posted:I know what they are, I just don't know what you'd call them since you're already using the term 'toehold' to refer to a footlock variation. Jesus christ, stop digging yourself even deeper into a hole. Everyone, in BJJ or grappling or anything else calls what everyone else is referring to as a toehold. If your kung fu grappling class calls the guard a "baby monkey hold", it doesnt matter because literally EVERYONE ELSE calls it the guard. Same goes with this one. gently caress me, Im just a white belt who doesnt do anything below the legs yet and even I know this. Man up, stop saving face and admit you were wrong.
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People seem to be getting really defensive about this misnomer, why is that?
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CivilDisobedience posted:People seem to be getting really defensive about this misnomer, why is that? Because you are being an idiot.
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CivilDisobedience posted:People seem to be getting really defensive about this misnomer, why is that? No one's being defensive, we are mocking you because you are saying extremely stupid things.
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^Go ahead, no skin off my back. You do seem kinda defensive though. Why do you think I'm being an idiot for not adopting this terminology when you don't even have a word for the sub I learned as a toehold, and I already have a clearer name for the sub you learned as a toehold? CivilDisobedience fucked around with this message at 23:42 on Jan 26, 2013 |
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CivilDisobedience posted:^Go ahead, no skin off my back. Because the entire rest of the grappling world calls the sub we learned as a toehold a toehold, and the sub you learned as a toehold is garbage that won't work on any competent grappler and therefore isn't really worth having a word for.
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Lol. What makes you think you're qualified to speak on the entire rest of the grappling world?
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CivilDisobedience posted:Lol. What makes you think you're qualified to speak on the entire rest of the grappling world? The fact that absolutely everyone except you agrees on the name. As far as I can see, it's you vs the entire rest of the grappling world.
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Just chiming in to say yes to the rest of the thread and no to three little pigs. Also a bjj brown belt can basically speak for all grapplers everywhere.
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CivilDisobedience posted:Lol. What makes you think you're qualified to speak on the entire rest of the grappling world? You don't have to take my word for it; walk into any grappling gym in the country and ask them what a toehold is. I'll wager you won't get someone talking about the incredible danger of bending a dude's toes down.
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He wouldn't even have to put out that kind of effort. 5 seconds on google or wikipedia would do it.
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Well this is how it was taught to me, I didn't just make it up, so there are obviously gyms I could choose where you would lose that wager. But everyone thought the world was flat at one point too, so that bandwagon thing isn't really very persuasive, you know? E: What's important to me is that it seems like I've got you at a disadvantage with techniques in my toolkit that you don't have words for. If I subbed you with my kind of toehold would you have to call yourself incompetent to maintain that it doesn't work on competent grapplers? CivilDisobedience fucked around with this message at 00:06 on Jan 27, 2013 |
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CivilDisobedience posted:Well this is how it was taught to me, I didn't just make it up, so there are obviously gyms I could choose where you would lose that wager. But everyone thought the world was flat at one point too, so that bandwagon thing isn't really very persuasive, you know? I would call anyone who tapped to getting their toes bent downward incompetent, and I would call someone who actually considers that move a "technique in [their] toolkit" to be an inept idiot whose opinions on grappling should be ignored by anyone aspiring to any level of actual skill.
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Well, you can try that, but it's not a very effective defense. You're angry now, but just think how mad you'll be when some 'incompetent' grappler breaks your toes while you try to figure out how to penalize them in a no score format.
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CivilDisobedience posted:You're angry now No, I'm extremely amused.
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That's interesting, cause mocking (your word) comes from a place of contempt. You sure you're not mad and in serious denial?
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CivilDisobedience posted:You sure you're not mad and in serious denial? Dude take a breath and realize how asinine your posts have been, start with this quote.
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CivilDisobedience posted:
No start with this one.
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Guys what's the best martial art for self defense?
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CivilDisobedience posted:That's interesting, cause mocking (your word) comes from a place of contempt. Contempt is an appropriate response to someone incompetent attempting to lecture their betters. It doesn't actually require someone to be angry. (it's going to be awesome when you start c+p-ing the dictionary definition of contempt now) quote:You sure you're not mad and in serious denial? Yep, pretty sure.
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Who tried to lecture? Look again at this post that you found so offensiveCivilDisobedience posted:Also I don't know if there's any honor in a format like this but personally I cringe every time someone goes for a toehold. That poo poo's just weak IMO CivilDisobedience fucked around with this message at 00:28 on Jan 27, 2013 |
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I know this is an AWFUL idea, but somebody please organize the Goon Kumite.
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toeholds and by extension leg locks in general are just sick as hell and make me hard whenever I see someone pull them off in high level competition.
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Kekekela posted:Guys what's the best martial art for self defense? Systema
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And fdog, that attempt to justify your contemptuous attitude sounds like the talk of a pompous rear end to me. 'Lecturing your betters' lol. Who talks like that? Especially to someone they've never met.
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