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For espresso, how long after roasting should I wait for CO2 to disperse before I start pulling shots? The CCC Toscano I ordered showed up yesterday and was roasted on Monday 1/21. I'd like to get into it tomorrow when I have some free time. Is 4 days enough time for it to outgas or should it sit in the one-way valve bag a bit longer? I'll probably go ahead and get into a bag and try to determine for myself how it changes between the 4-7 day marks but if there's a general rule of thumb, I'd love to know what it is.
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Lawen posted:For espresso, how long after roasting should I wait for CO2 to disperse before I start pulling shots? The CCC Toscano I ordered showed up yesterday and was roasted on Monday 1/21. I'd like to get into it tomorrow when I have some free time. Is 4 days enough time for it to outgas or should it sit in the one-way valve bag a bit longer? Yes, you're fine. Generally one day is fine, at most 2.
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Jan 24, 2013 17:46
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Yeah, I'd say anything after 24 hours should be good.
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Jan 24, 2013 22:01
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follow up to my post from yesterday: How do you guys feel about frothers? such at this one: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B002Y6FBU2/?tag=goon0dd-20 ?
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Jan 25, 2013 01:33
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smokmnky posted:follow up to my post from yesterday: How do you guys feel about frothers? such at this one: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B002Y6FBU2/?tag=goon0dd-20 ? Classy affiliate link. Anyway don't buy one of those. Doesn't do the same thing as a proper milk steamer.
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Jan 25, 2013 01:35
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Mr. Glass posted:Classy affiliate link. yeah I use it for Goonfleet (Eve Online) so I'm not looking for anything fancy, more like something cheap for my wife to make a latte with using our new aeropress
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Jan 25, 2013 02:23
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smokmnky posted:yeah I use it for Goonfleet (Eve Online) Microwave for 30-45 seconds and a small whisk works and is pretty cheap.
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Jan 25, 2013 03:05
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Does anyone know of any standard brick and mortar stores that sell one way valve bags? I have a friend coming into town this weekend and I want to roast up some coffee for her to bring home, but I realized I'm out of bags. I'd hate to just give it to her in a ziplock bag.
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Jan 25, 2013 04:25
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rockcity posted:Does anyone know of any standard brick and mortar stores that sell one way valve bags? I have a friend coming into town this weekend and I want to roast up some coffee for her to bring home, but I realized I'm out of bags. I'd hate to just give it to her in a ziplock bag. Uhm, think you're going to have to list a location. In the SF Bay, Sweet Maria's will sell you them at their warehouse.
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Jan 25, 2013 07:20
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nm posted:Uhm, think you're going to have to list a location. I'm in Orlando and we don't have any decent coffee places here so that's why I was hoping there might be a major brick and mortar store that sold them for general food storage or something.
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Jan 25, 2013 15:45
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I just had the praises of cafe bustelo made in a $30 Mr. Coffee espresso machine sung to me by 4 different people. Is there some potential that they've discovered some strange zen of cheap and good espresso?
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Jan 26, 2013 18:31
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Fuzzy Pipe Wrench posted:I just had the praises of cafe bustelo made in a $30 Mr. Coffee espresso machine sung to me by 4 different people. Is there some potential that they've discovered some strange zen of cheap and good espresso?
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Jan 26, 2013 18:37
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Fuzzy Pipe Wrench posted:Is there some potential that they've discovered some strange zen of cheap and good espresso? Yes. Ignorance and denial.
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Jan 26, 2013 19:20
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Fuzzy Pipe Wrench posted:I just had the praises of cafe bustelo made in a $30 Mr. Coffee espresso machine sung to me by 4 different people. Is there some potential that they've discovered some strange zen of cheap and good espresso? It could be that it actually produced an amazing cup, but it is far more likely that those four people were doing what polite people do whenever anyone makes them a drink of anything and you are just to spergy to understand how manners work.
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Jan 26, 2013 20:18
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I've gotten the hang of the Aeropress now and want to try something else. I've been looking at the various pour overs and am wondering why anyone would choose something over the Clever Dripper? It looks much more convenient with no technique needed.
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Jan 26, 2013 22:20
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Mu Zeta posted:I've gotten the hang of the Aeropress now and want to try something else. I've been looking at the various pour overs and am wondering why anyone would choose something over the Clever Dripper? It looks much more convenient with no technique needed. I have a standard ceramic pourover cone with a gold filter that I use when I'm making coffee for multiple people, because my CCD is awesome, but it's a time commitment when brewing for multiple people.
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Jan 26, 2013 22:28
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I didn't think of that. I can make coffee for 2 on the Aeropress but it must be tricky on the Clever Dripper. I guess the Clever is only used for 1 serving at a time. Do you brew for the whole 4 minutes that they recommend? I like my coffee hot and that sounds like a long time to me.
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Jan 26, 2013 22:43
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CCD is good if you only want one cup.
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Jan 26, 2013 23:52
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Mu Zeta posted:I didn't think of that. I can make coffee for 2 on the Aeropress but it must be tricky on the Clever Dripper. I guess the Clever is only used for 1 serving at a time. CDD stays warm as long as you pre-warm it (basically pass a cup of boiling water through it to wet the filter) and use the cover.
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Jan 27, 2013 00:01
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Mu Zeta posted:I've gotten the hang of the Aeropress now and want to try something else. I've been looking at the various pour overs and am wondering why anyone would choose something over the Clever Dripper? It looks much more convenient with no technique needed.
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Jan 27, 2013 02:37
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Fuzzy Pipe Wrench posted:I just had the praises of cafe bustelo made in a $30 Mr. Coffee espresso machine sung to me by 4 different people. Is there some potential that they've discovered some strange zen of cheap and good espresso? If they like it, they like it. If they love it, they love it. Happy is happy. If they find something better later, hey... more happy.
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Jan 27, 2013 05:51
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These starbucks blonde roast ads are loving annoying. Basically they're implying that people who didn't like their burned as gently caress coffee didn't really like coffee, but now we have blonde roast (also known as just a step above Italian roast) Also, people who drown coffee in milk because they don't like coffee. Sounds like a venti caramel whatever.the.fuckcatto
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Jan 27, 2013 05:58
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Corla Plankun posted:It could be that it actually produced an amazing cup, but it is far more likely that those four people were doing what polite people do whenever anyone makes them a drink of anything and you are just to spergy to understand how manners work. I didn't make it, was just talking with a few random people at a mechanics shop while waiting on my car to be finished up. Apparently all four of them had separately discovered that same technique and were super excited that they weren't alone. I just stick to getting espresso at the handful of places around here that do it right.
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Jan 27, 2013 06:00
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nm posted:These starbucks blonde roast ads are loving annoying. As much as I hate Starbucks, I think its commendable that they're acknowledging one of the main complaints about their coffee and trying to appeal to people that want more than just a hint of coffee taste covered in caramel and crumbled cookies or what have you. If they ever put a clover machine in a retail location somewhere in Switzerland, I'd give it a shot.  Also, back to the Geisha discussion, my friends company apparently buys Panama Geisha from origin for about 5-6000 bucks a ton, and passes it on to companies like Intelligentsia for a modest 10% mark up. It makes for some interesting math when you break it down to a 12 buck cup!
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Jan 27, 2013 08:11
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Armed Neutrality posted:Also, back to the Geisha discussion, my friends company apparently buys Panama Geisha from origin for about 5-6000 bucks a ton, and passes it on to companies like Intelligentsia for a modest 10% mark up. It makes for some interesting math when you break it down to a 12 buck cup! $2.5 - $3 a lb for Geisha? That sounds highly unlikely: http://auction.stoneworks.com/ES2012/final_results.html. The cheapest lot there went for $29.00 a lb.
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Jan 27, 2013 09:21
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min posted:$2.5 - $3 a lb for Geisha? That sounds highly unlikely: http://auction.stoneworks.com/ES2012/final_results.html. The cheapest lot there went for $29.00 a lb. They buy direct from the farms and only sell by the container load (18 tons I think?) so I think they might be a step or two higher on the sourcing ladder than that auction site. I'll ask him at the next opportunity. Armed Neutrality fucked around with this message at 10:14 on Jan 27, 2013 |
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Jan 27, 2013 10:01
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Armed Neutrality posted:They buy direct from the farms and only That auction IS directly from the farm as far as I know. Geisha is that expensive. The price you are quoting is closer to the price for "typical" specialty coffee. For example, in Counter Culture's 2011 direct trade transparency report the vast majority of their coffees were purchased for over $2.00 a lb, most closer to $3.00-$4.00. The point I'm trying to make is $12 for a cup of Geisha isn't out of line when you take into account how much the coffee itself costs. If I had a local roaster that served Geisha I would certainly buy a cup, because I hate dropping between $40-80 for a half lb bag. I still usually do it once a year or so for a treat, it is truly great coffee and I believe every coffee nerd should try it at least once.
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Jan 27, 2013 11:00
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Grinder help needed! So I've got a Bodum Bistro Electric Burr Grinder that won't grind properly after I've cleaned it for the first time. The problem is that I set the adjustment wheel to coarse (I only make french press) but it always comes out very fine. When cleaning I only took off the easily removable outer conical burr. Any ideas? wide stance fucked around with this message at 06:52 on Jan 28, 2013 |
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Jan 28, 2013 03:18
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Did you install it backwards? I don't know how that grinder works, but my Baratza requires the burr installed in the right direction.
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Jan 28, 2013 03:26
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wide stance posted:Grinder help needed! Make sure you put the hopper on the right way. I don't have my old one here, but I recall being able to put on backwards despite the notching.
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Jan 28, 2013 03:55
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that Vai sound posted:Did you install it backwards? I don't know how that grinder works, but my Baratza requires the burr installed in the right direction. That may be it, there's a plastic piece that attaches to the outer burr that's asymmetrical. geetee posted:Make sure you put the hopper on the right way. I don't have my old one here, but I recall being able to put on backwards despite the notching. Fortunately the hopper is pretty idiot proof in that it physically won't line up with any of the grind settings if installed backwards.
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All right guys, I've been using a cheap blade grinder for years. I think I owe myself an actual burr grinder. The question is: Hario Skerton or Hario MSS-1B Mini Grinder? I'm learning toward the Mini since I've got fairly small hands and it's cheaper, but I'd love someone else's opinion first.
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Jan 28, 2013 10:04
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I've been using a drip machine since the start of the year, it's my first coffee machine so I've been trying out different brands of ground coffees. I've tried a couple of flavoured coffees and I'm pretty sure I'm doing them wrong. Usually I like my coffee black, but this doesn't seem to work for flavoured coffee. Am I supposed to use milk? Are flavoured grounds just generally rubbish?
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Chadmunkey posted:Are flavoured grounds just generally rubbish? Yes. Goto a local roaster and start picking up single origin roasts and enjoy the different flavor profiles. Casull posted:All right guys, I've been using a cheap blade grinder for years. I think I owe myself an actual burr grinder. I would advise against a hand grinder. Unless you're going to use it to travel around places, it's just so much easier to have a regular burr grinder. Any of the ones listed in the OP are good.
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Doh004 posted:Yes. Goto a local roaster and start picking up single origin roasts and enjoy the different flavor profiles. Good to know, thanks
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Jan 28, 2013 14:20
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Pretty much all flavoured coffee is extremely low-grade stuff, even by commodity coffee standards. If you want to flavour your coffee, you are better off adding syrups or other flavourings (sugar-free or otherwise) after the fact. It's more of an issue if you are grinding whole beans, because it tends to contaminate grinders pretty badly.
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Jan 28, 2013 14:32
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When I was in the US I bought a bag of dunkin' donuts strawberry shortcake flavored coffee to make for some coffee loving friends. Surprise!
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Jan 28, 2013 16:24
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Doh004 posted:I would advise against a hand grinder. Unless you're going to use it to travel around places, it's just so much easier to have a regular burr grinder. Any of the ones listed in the OP are good.  I'd go with the Skerton. Doh004 is right, it's a pain to grind by hand (I still do it for anything but espresso though), but if cost is an issue, either Hario will work, I think the smaller one will take longer, but if you're grinding for a cup at a time I can't imagine that's an issue.
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Bob_McBob posted:Pretty much all flavoured coffee is extremely low-grade stuff, even by commodity coffee standards. If you want to flavour your coffee, you are better off adding syrups or other flavourings (sugar-free or otherwise) after the fact. It's more of an issue if you are grinding whole beans, because it tends to contaminate grinders pretty badly.
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porktree posted:Yo. Zassenhaus 4 lyfe biatches. That's pretty rad. If I wasn't a lazy rear end in a top hat I could see getting one, but, ya know, 
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