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Beamed
Nov 26, 2010

Then you have a responsibility that no man has ever faced. You have your fear which could become reality, and you have Godzilla, which is reality.


Sampatrick posted:

Actually no, that's a direct quote from what someone said. Yeah. They can be that ridiculous.

It's a direct quote but it wasn't a serious post. :v:

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Mantis42
Jul 26, 2010

I usually start most Paradox games as Castille (or Spain), dating back to HoI2 when I did a game as Franco. No real reason.

shades of blue
Sep 27, 2012

Beamed posted:

It's a direct quote but it wasn't a serious post. :v:

We can't be sure of this.

Tomn
Aug 23, 2007

And the angel said unto him
"Stop hitting yourself. Stop hitting yourself."
But lo he could not. For the angel was hitting him with his own hands

Sampatrick posted:

We can't be sure of this.

I'm aware it was a direct quote - that's why I suggested that people Google it to find the original post. I sincerely doubt it's serious, though, given that the person in question has a grand total of eight posts to his name including that one, and how he failed to participate any further in the thread after posting. Also, this:

quote:

The pain I felt from this betrayal has destroyed me on an emotional level, and has deprived me of my primary source of entertainment. No longer can I play Grand Strategy games without remembering the day I ceased mattering to people I devoted myself to. Paradox had not just destroyed me or their company, they had destroyed the one force of stability in the world: Trust.

Granted, it's not as blatant as the guy talking about how he formed deeper, richer emotional connections with his CK2 characters than he did with anyone in real life, but it's still pretty over the top.

Edit: In case anyone is curious, here's the "rich emotional connections" guy I was talking about.

Tomn fucked around with this message at 05:44 on Jan 27, 2013

shades of blue
Sep 27, 2012

Tomn posted:

I'm aware it was a direct quote - that's why I suggested that people Google it to find the original post. I sincerely doubt it's serious, though, given that the person in question has a grand total of eight posts to his name including that one, and how he failed to participate any further in the thread after posting. Also, this:


Granted, it's not as blatant as the guy talking about how he formed deeper, richer emotional connections with his CK2 characters than he did with anyone in real life, but it's still pretty over the top.

Edit: In case anyone is curious, here's the "rich emotional connections" guy I was talking about.

That is literally the single best post on the entirety of the Paradox forums.

TOOT BOOT
May 25, 2010

Tomn posted:

Edit: In case anyone is curious, here's the "rich emotional connections" guy I was talking about.

I like how the dude just completely handwaves away spending any development time on fleshing out Africa.

Flappy Bert
Dec 11, 2011

I have seen the light, and it is a string


I have absolutely no ability to tell if that's serious or a perfect mockery :stare:

CharlestheHammer
Jun 26, 2011

YOU SAY MY POSTS ARE THE RAVINGS OF THE DUMBEST PERSON ON GOD'S GREEN EARTH BUT YOU YOURSELF ARE READING THEM. CURIOUS!

ten dollar bitcoin posted:

I like how the dude just completely handwaves away spending any development time on fleshing out Africa.

That dude brought up Serbia (the fourth Rome) as a huge (but tolerable) mistake on paradox's part. There is no way that is a serious post.

Jabarto
Apr 7, 2007

I could do with your...assistance.
Yeah, I mean, look at what he said:

that guy posted:

Yet, for many of us, CKII is no laughing matter. It is serious business.

Even if the stuff about Serbia and the Balkans wasn't obvious, you can't possibly take this line seriously.

Still funny though.

GEORGE W BUSHI
Jul 1, 2012

CharlestheHammer posted:

That dude brought up Serbia (the fourth Rome) as a huge (but tolerable) mistake on paradox's part. There is no way that is a serious post.

That was the most believable bit though...

Pornographic Memory
Dec 17, 2008
What, are you guys saying Paradox developers don't spend all their spare time studying liberation theology and reading Maoist-Third Worldist blogs? It's pretty well known that Johan is a huge fan of Monkey Smashes Heaven.

CharlestheHammer
Jun 26, 2011

YOU SAY MY POSTS ARE THE RAVINGS OF THE DUMBEST PERSON ON GOD'S GREEN EARTH BUT YOU YOURSELF ARE READING THEM. CURIOUS!
^^^^ I don't know what that has to do with anything.

Graham Gremlin posted:

That was the most believable bit though...

If it was believable he would not have tolerated such injustice.

Chump Farts
May 9, 2009

There is no Coordinator but Narduzzi, and Shilique is his Prophet.
I will admit for having a degree in history Medieval to Enlightenment era Balkan states aren't exactly my forte, but how what the hell is up with the fixation on Serbia? Especially to the point of it being a "true successor" to Rome?

Pornographic Memory
Dec 17, 2008

CharlestheHammer posted:

^^^^ I don't know what that has to do with anything.


fakeposting dude on the paradox forums posted:

I call on my fellow CKII fans to boycott any and all Paradox products until the devs put down their Latin American liberation theology books and stop visiting those Maoist Third World-ist blogs and instead go back to their meatballs and house mafias or whatever else they have in Sweden -- AND GIVE US, THE CONSUMERS, what we are asking you for!!! It is not hard!!! It's not unreasonable to want you to do what we ask you to do!!! And to stop being so selfish and glib about making video games!!! Give us the video games!!!

RagnarokAngel
Oct 5, 2006

Black Magic Extraordinaire

Jakse posted:

I will admit for having a degree in history Medieval to Enlightenment era Balkan states aren't exactly my forte, but how what the hell is up with the fixation on Serbia? Especially to the point of it being a "true successor" to Rome?

Paradox Plaza has a lot of balkan nationalists.

I dont think anyone considers it the true successor that's just a joke that's grown as people keep exxagerating how much people are crazy for Serbja.

CharlestheHammer
Jun 26, 2011

YOU SAY MY POSTS ARE THE RAVINGS OF THE DUMBEST PERSON ON GOD'S GREEN EARTH BUT YOU YOURSELF ARE READING THEM. CURIOUS!

I missed that part. Though I can still say I don't know what that had to do with anything. It seemed randomly put in there.

Pornographic Memory
Dec 17, 2008

CharlestheHammer posted:

I missed that part. Though I can still say I don't know what that had to do with anything. It seemed randomly put in there.

He had a few points making fun of the idea that Sunset Invasion (and the addition of West Africa and the African faces DLC, among other things) means Paradox isn't being Eurocentric enough, which I guess some people are probably upset about.

Tomn
Aug 23, 2007

And the angel said unto him
"Stop hitting yourself. Stop hitting yourself."
But lo he could not. For the angel was hitting him with his own hands

CharlestheHammer posted:

I missed that part. Though I can still say I don't know what that had to do with anything. It seemed randomly put in there.

There was a line of argument over on the Paradox forums that Sunset Invasion was "political correctness gone mad," allowing the Native Americans a "revenge fantasy" of sorts upon Europe and that it wasn't appropriate somehow for that reason - because, I suppose, Paradox needed to stick to the real history and real facts of Europe overrunning the entire world and not indulge in such fripperies as Native Americans being more than a speedbump for Europeans.

It was not, to be fair, a very COMMON line of argument, but yeah.

telcontar
Dec 8, 2006

Jakse posted:

I will admit for having a degree in history Medieval to Enlightenment era Balkan states aren't exactly my forte, but how what the hell is up with the fixation on Serbia? Especially to the point of it being a "true successor" to Rome?
It's just a longrunning joke about Balkan nationalism which started with a LF Victoria 1 Let's Play.

Beamed
Nov 26, 2010

Then you have a responsibility that no man has ever faced. You have your fear which could become reality, and you have Godzilla, which is reality.


telcontar posted:

It's just a longrunning joke about Balkan nationalism which started with a LF Victoria 1 Let's Play.

Holy crap, link? I'd love to see a legitimate Vicky 1/2 Serbia LP - just because being able to do it right sounds like it takes a lot of skill

Zip
Mar 19, 2006

I know it's a strange question to ask in the paradox thread but are there any pirate themed games that have are at all remotely like ck2 in strategy? Now that I've finally figured out how to play this game... I really want to play more like it... and I kind of think a piracy/carribean themed game would be perfect.

Sankis
Mar 8, 2004

But I remember the fella who told me. Big lad. Arms as thick as oak trees, a stunning collection of scars, nice eye patch. A REAL therapist he was. Er wait. Maybe it was rapist?


I can't really think of any, honestly. Most recent Pirate games, as in the last decade, have been mostly RPG in nature. The only strategy pirate games I can think of are the Port Royale games on GoG. They're the 17th century Caribbean counterpart to the patrician games.

The other game is one I never played. I believe it was called Cutthroats. It was some kind of real time strategy is memory serves.

Zip
Mar 19, 2006

that's a shame.. it seems like a good theme for a strategy game.. managing ports and ships, trading across, deciding who your first mate is and ultimately who'll take over for you. I dunno

ZearothK
Aug 25, 2008

I've lost twice, I've failed twice and I've gotten two dishonorable mentions within 7 weeks. But I keep coming back. I am The Trooper!

THUNDERDOME LOSER 2021


Mr. Showtime posted:

Speaking of Darkest Hour + Kaiserreich, has anyone else had problems registering the game so that you can download the beta patch? I bought it from the Paradox web store a few days ago; Steam has no option to view my CD key and the Steam key mailed to me in my receipt doesn't work on the Paradox forums. I've put in a ticket, but while I'm waiting for a response I thought I'd ask if anyone else has had this problem and in exactly which way I'm missing something blindingly obvious.

You need to have Darkest Hour installed on Steam in order to see the CD-Key. I had the same problem when I bought DH there but already had it installed from somewhere else.

donzwei
Jun 20, 2012

A Buttery Pastry posted:

First Denmark because nationalism, and because no matter how badly I do I'm going to outperform history. :denmark:

Then Burgundy->France, assuming that's still possible, to see how well the game deals with blatant aggression.

Outperforming danish national history = Easy, you just have to make the right choice just once :P

Alchenar
Apr 9, 2008

Zip posted:

that's a shame.. it seems like a good theme for a strategy game.. managing ports and ships, trading across, deciding who your first mate is and ultimately who'll take over for you. I dunno

Tropico 2.

Less fun version: Port Royale 1/2/3.

Darkrenown
Jul 18, 2012
please give me anything to talk about besides the fact that democrats are allowing millions of americans to be evicted from their homes

SickZip posted:

It was really really dumb and a bad precedent. CK2 is fun but already crazy ahistorical, it doesnt need to be moreso.

PITY WE FORCE YOU TO BUY IT SO YOU HAVE NO CHOICE ABOUT IT! OH poo poo, NOW WE CAN'T DO ANY MORE HISTORICAL STUFF DUE TO THE PRECEDENT! :downswords:

Raenir Salazar posted:

In a thread discussing multiplayer balance and how the faction systems made Ming empirically a worse country to play a dev said "Playing Ming in mp is like playing a OPM." Which was hilarious as a OPM has a better ability to compete with France than Ming ever will.

In the absence of of any link or context I'll go out on a limb and say it was an analogy to say playing Ming in MP vs European major players is giving the Ming player an extra challenge, akin to the extra challenge of playing a OPM. Some countries won't fare as well as others in a competitive MP game. Not that Ming is literally a OPM.

Alchenar
Apr 9, 2008

Darkrenown posted:

PITY WE FORCE YOU TO BUY IT SO YOU HAVE NO CHOICE ABOUT IT! OH poo poo, NOW WE CAN'T DO ANY MORE HISTORICAL STUFF DUE TO THE PRECEDENT! :downswords:


Reposting to the Paradox forums right now! jk

A Buttery Pastry
Sep 4, 2011

Delicious and Informative!
:3:

DrProsek posted:

I believe it was Miscmods that did that, I remember seeing 300 years per core but it would never take that long unless you were conquering say Japan as France and never converted the locals.
Magna Mundi did as well. The best part of the system is people seeing the core timer say 500 years, closing the game and going straight to the forum to call the developers retarded.

donzwei posted:

Outperforming danish national history = Easy, you just have to make the right choice just once :P
Yeah, pretty much the only states which are easier to outperform with are ones like Poland.

Wiz
May 16, 2004

Nap Ghost

Darkrenown posted:

PITY WE FORCE YOU TO BUY IT SO YOU HAVE NO CHOICE ABOUT IT! OH poo poo, NOW WE CAN'T DO ANY MORE HISTORICAL STUFF DUE TO THE PRECEDENT! :downswords:

You know we're not supposed to talk about what we do at work, now you've all but given away the 'Rise of the Old Ones' DLC!

Darkrenown
Jul 18, 2012
please give me anything to talk about besides the fact that democrats are allowing millions of americans to be evicted from their homes
Eh, as long as we keep DinoUniversais under wraps it's all good.

ZearothK
Aug 25, 2008

I've lost twice, I've failed twice and I've gotten two dishonorable mentions within 7 weeks. But I keep coming back. I am The Trooper!

THUNDERDOME LOSER 2021


I was going to make both of those jokes. drat you Paradox Devs! drat you to Hell!

Bossie Lott
Nov 21, 2010

gradenko_2000 posted:

Which EU3 mod was it that sets the base core time to several hundred years, but instead triggers core gains dynamically by event, checking several factors to reduce the MTTH?

MEIOU does it. Think a few others might as well.

I'm going to be totally boring and nationalistic when EU4 comes out and just go straight for England. Although the new trade mechanics and the neccessity to have a large navy that you actually USE will be interesting.

The new colonisation system they've got going sounds nice, but I hope somewhere down the line, either in development or expansions/DLC they change even more.

donzwei
Jun 20, 2012

A Buttery Pastry posted:

Yeah, pretty much the only states which are easier to outperform with are ones like Poland.

Or in the extension of Denmark, the Duchy of Schleswig and the Duchy of Holstein, now there's a history which from the start only goes down hill. But i don't think they will be playable though :confused:

Pimpmust
Oct 1, 2008

DinoUniversais eh? I will take that as confirmation on the next-next DLC being "Sunset Invasion II: Aztec Dinosaur Cavalry"

e: Followed by Sunset Invasion III: Aztecs vs Vikings

I'd buy it :colbert:

Pimpmust fucked around with this message at 13:20 on Jan 27, 2013

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy

Pimpmust posted:

DinoUniversais eh? I will take that as confirmation on the next-next DLC being "Sunset Invasion II: Aztec Dinosaur Cavalry"
No no, they hired Wiz so they could make AUSTRALIAN Dinosaur Cavalry :science:

DrSunshine
Mar 23, 2009

Did I just say that out loud~~?!!!
Hahaha!

quote:

You can literally become the character you play as. For months now, I have "lived" as a King of Italy, a Duke of Lombardy, a Count of Bourbon, developing relationships with historical and fictional characters with their own unique personalities and character traits. I have formed friendships and even romances as prevalent and intense as any you could find in real life. I have shed true tears for the wives I've wed and lost, the sons and daughters I've raised and seen taken away too early. My heart has swelled with pride as I've bestowed titles upon the progeny that has made me proudest and witnessed my soul crushed by the necessity of having to "take care of" an unsuitable heir.

Dude has some serious problems, if you ask me!

Tomn
Aug 23, 2007

And the angel said unto him
"Stop hitting yourself. Stop hitting yourself."
But lo he could not. For the angel was hitting him with his own hands
Personally, my favorite part was when he compared the Paradox devs to a grown man frolicking naked in a hundred pounds of chocolate pudding.

Wiz
May 16, 2004

Nap Ghost

Tomn posted:

Personally, my favorite part was when he compared the Paradox devs to a grown man frolicking naked in a hundred pounds of chocolate pudding.

That's called 'Friday afternoon' around the office.

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pdxjohan
Sep 9, 2011

Paradox dev dude.

Darkrenown posted:

Eh, as long as we keep DinoUniversais under wraps it's all good.

No worries. I canned it this morning so you could be put on the Austrian Painting School game..

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