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trilljester posted:I'm guessing if you did an OTA update, then did a shift restore with a full IPW of 6.1, you'd get a clean firmware update. Someone correct me if I'm wrong. This is correct. The problem they're saying is that an OTA update is actually different and they're probably only testing for real/full restore from a full image.
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Binary Badger posted:Yep, perfectly acceptable to do OTA if you don't want to jailbreak. If one of the JB team is telling people to upgrade to 6.1 via iTunes and not OTA, to jailbreak, then that's what I'm loving doing. God dammit I don't want to deal with doing a full restore. Though I guess I can get around to swapping some music off my phone 
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Seriously, people, the restore stuff isn't a big deal. Step 1: Plug your computer into iTunes Step 2: Right click your phone and hit "Backup" Step 3: Sync your iPhone Step 4: Update to 6.1 Step 5: If iTunes asks, restore your phone from the backup you just made Congratulations, you're all ready for the free jailbreak! Alternatively, use the OTA update and then whine on the day of the release when your jailbreak process isn't seamless, or when a proper AP Ticket cannot be saved thus not allowing you to restore 6.1 or downgrade to it. Your choice, people! Edit: Since I'm through being mad, here's a list of things I'm excited to reinstall: LockInfo iFile Flux Zephyr SBSettings TetherMe and some more stuff I've forgotten since it's been ages since I've been jailbroken bobfather fucked around with this message at 19:29 on Jan 29, 2013 |
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bobfather posted:Seriously, people, the restore stuff isn't a big deal.
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Jan 29, 2013 19:27
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You only need to restore if you're presently on OTA 6.1.
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So thats what I would do if I took the 6.1 OTA yesterday is just back up and click restore in Itunes?
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Jan 29, 2013 19:36
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A full restore is a reinstall of the OS, along with a restore of all of your settings. Updating your iPhone via iTunes is a reinstall of the OS, while keeping your settings intact. If you are on OTA 6.1, you need to do a full restore. If you are not on 6.1, plugging your phone in and updating will suffice.
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So if I did OTA yesterday, would I just: Backup my 6.1 iPhone 5 to iTunes Do an iTunes Restore of 6.1 THEN can I put my backup back on my iPhone so I have all my poo poo again? Then Jailbreak? [edit] If I cannot do a full restore of my backup in step 3 above, I suppose I could just bring my contacts and such down from iCloud at least, right?
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bobfather posted:Edit: Since I'm through being mad, here's a list of things I'm excited to reinstall: For me: IGotYa SBSettings Display Recorder Folder Enhancer
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Jan 29, 2013 20:03
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Binary Badger posted:For me: Cydelete Swipebright UnCurl App Switcher Status Bar AskToCall FakeClockUp Turn To Silence TetherMe Tempus just to name a few, I hope all of these will be compatible 
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Jan 29, 2013 20:06
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Feenix posted:So if I did OTA yesterday, would I just: Sure, looks good. Anyone who is currently on OTA 6.1 should download the IPSW from Apple. Plug-in, backup, sync, shift+click restore from IPSW, and then once that process is finished ask it to restore your backup settings. The phone will probably sync automatically somewhere in the process, too. Alternatively, you could do all of the above but NOT restore your backup settings, and instead restore from iCloud instead. However, it'll take longer to download the apps than to load them from your computer, and you'll not have any of your books, music, ringtones, or pictures on your phone until you plug in and sync.
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I miss flux, irealsms, and zephyr a lot. I keep trying to swipe up to close apps. Action menu + spring flash Barrel Cydelete (delete cydia apps like a regular app Taptounlock What would fakeclockup be like on the 5!? I assume we'd have to wait for all these apps to be updated to work on the 5?
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Binary Badger posted:For me: I just installed IGotYa because I was curious. Really neat concept, and I liked it a lot, until I got caught in a crash-respring loop after I tested the secure-mode (its best feature). Thankfully a reboot got me out of it. Scary though. iPhone 4, 5.1.1
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Jan 29, 2013 21:18
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I miss XBMC. The ipad mini will be so perfect with XBMC.
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Jan 29, 2013 21:28
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bobfather posted:You only need to restore if you're presently on OTA 6.1. Thanks for the clarification. Doing an update is easy if you don't have to restore the phone during.
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Jan 29, 2013 22:02
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I didn't see it anywhere but will the new ATV2 firmware be jailbreakable?
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Apparently yes, though they aren't sure whether the ATV2 6.1 firmware will be out in time for the initial jailbreak tool they release in the near future. ATV3 peeps are still out of luck though
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I'm testing all my favorite apps on iOS 6 right now and updating my docs. SwitcherMod: immediate springboard crash when opening the task switcher. SBSettings: immediate springboard crash when tapping the Processes button. Barrell: some flickering on just a few animations (inside cube). Most of the other stuff I've tried either works fine in iOS 6 (even though it hasn't been updated in a while), or has been updated to work in iOS 6. I added an iOS 6.x section here, as well: https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0Ah09Sy6aGB8hdEVaemF1VXRYbXVjY0wyZGdnZThuQUE&hl=en&authkey=CMmC_5gE
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Jan 30, 2013 03:20
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I have a tethered iPod running iOS 6.0.1, and the following apps/tweeks work fine for me: A Beautiful Lockscreen Curiosa ProgressPercent Slider Pro Zeppelin
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Jan 30, 2013 04:21
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is winterboard still poo poo? The last time I was jailbroken, winterboard and anything requiring it caused my phone's interface to be slow and laggy, with springboard crashes occurring almost daily.
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Jan 30, 2013 04:29
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I've had no issues here. I've replaced the Twitter, Facebook, and Google+ icons, as well as changing my WiFi signal icon, the Notifications circle icon, and the Page Indicator icons. Sadly, I haven't been able to change the battery icon in the notification bar (top right corner), and I've had limited success with changing the loading swirly. That only seems to work sometimes.
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The problem with Winterboard seems to be implementation/optimization and not actually resource based. Back in the 3G days it was terrible because the 3G couldn't handle running it on top of the OS. Now with the 4S and 5 I would think that processing power shouldn't hamper the experience at all. It would be nice if someone was able to rewrite or come up with a very stable and well supported version of Winterboard. I can live without it, but if it worked flawlessly and themes/icons/tweaks were easy to install and revert I think a lot more people would use it.
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To clarify, the last time I used winterboard it was on a 4, so maybe the 5 has enough juice to deal with sub-par optimization. I'll have to try it when the jb is released, but if it doesn't work at least I'll have NCSettings and 5-icon dock which are the bare-minimum jb features I miss.
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Wario In Real Life posted:The problem with Winterboard seems to be implementation/optimization and not actually resource based. Back in the 3G days it was terrible because the 3G couldn't handle running it on top of the OS. Now with the 4S and 5 I would think that processing power shouldn't hamper the experience at all. That's interesting; I've got an unjb'd 4S now, but before that I had a 3G skinned to the gills with Winterboard and I didn't notice any significant problems. Then again, maybe the slowness I was experiencing with it the whole time was because of Winterboard and not just because it was an ancient piece of hardware. Still, the call of a completely customized interface is too much for me to resist. A newer, optimized version would be fantastic, though.
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This might seem like I haven't read the thread but it's really just because I have no experience with these things: if I have a 5 that I've been careful not to update to 6.1 while waiting for the jailbreak, I should now update it to 6.1, but only using iTunes? Is that correct? thanks for all the info, guys.
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What's the JB scene like on the iPad? I don't bother on my iPhone because any jailbreak apps bog the thing down, but now that I have an iPad it might be worth dicking around with that once the 6.1 jailbreak comes out.
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Protocol7 posted:What's the JB scene like on the iPad? I don't bother on my iPhone because any jailbreak apps bog the thing down, but now that I have an iPad it might be worth dicking around with that once the 6.1 jailbreak comes out. If you've got an iPad 1 6.1 is a no go. All others, Blimpkin fucked around with this message at 19:56 on Jan 30, 2013 |
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Blimpkin posted:If you've got an iPad 1 6.1 is a no go. All others, except the Mini (?), should be good to go for 6.1. Well it is a Mini, so I'm likely boned until later then?
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Protocol7 posted:Well it is a Mini, so I'm likely boned until later then? I don't think there's any reason the JB won't work with a Mini, if it works for a 2. They have the same processor, and that seems to be the factor that tends to result in issues.
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Ah, I misread one of the blogs as saying that the Mini was not compatible, never mind then, carry on.
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Well the A5 in the Mini's a little different since it's smaller and has RAM embedded into it or something like that, but none of that seems preventative of the jailbreak working. OTA 6.1 is a different story. Thank God I haven't installed a lot of anything yet.
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Protocol7 posted:Well the A5 in the Mini's a little different since it's smaller and has RAM embedded into it or something like that, but none of that seems preventative of the jailbreak working. For the record I OTA installed 6.1 on day one, realized (thanks to good advice from this thread a day later) I needed to backup to iTunes, restore by Shift-clicking the 6.1 IPSW, then restored from my backup, and honestly, it took about 15 minutes. I have 3,000 songs, a poo poo ton of apps, and a bunch of photos. It was no big deal. Just sayin'.
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As opposed to trying never to restore and only do OTAs in an effort to look like a K-RAD D000D who never shamefully does a restore. Full restores have been a part of the JB process since the first PwnageTool, it's a stupid thing to get spergy about.
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Binary Badger posted:As opposed to trying never to restore and only do OTAs in an effort to look like a K-RAD D000D who never shamefully does a restore. Right, because everyone who does OTA updates does it to look cool and this thread is just overflowing with restore sperging.
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Why not just spend the 10 minutes to do it right? I've never updated OTA and seriously don't get the appeal.
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Na'at posted:Why not just spend the 10 minutes to do it right? I've never updated OTA and seriously don't get the appeal. OTA updates are delta updates and as such are very quick to download. It's nice to be able to tell my parents how to update to the latest one and make sure they've got protections against vulnerabilities, and enhancements. It's just a nice thing to have. e: There are hundreds of features that some users, and lots of power users, really don't get the appeal of- but it doesn't mean there isn't a huge base of people for which it's a nice convenience.
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OTA is still "doing it right." A software update is a software update. I rarely jailbreak anymore, and certainly didn't think about it or care when I OTA updated it.
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Na'at posted:Why not just spend the 10 minutes to do it right? I've never updated OTA and seriously don't get the appeal. Do you reinstall Windows from scratch every time they have an update? How is an OTA not "doing it right"? Some files are changed, a delta update updates the changed files while not changing ones that didn't change between releases. I really just don't follow.
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ddogflex posted:Do you reinstall Windows from scratch every time they have an update? How is an OTA not "doing it right"? Some files are changed, a delta update updates the changed files while not changing ones that didn't change between releases. I really just don't follow. It's all about location, and an OTA can potentially have files in different locations. Pair that with ASLR, and jailbreaking needs as much help as it can get, which is why a Full Restore is recommended.
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Binary Badger posted:As opposed to trying never to restore and only do OTAs in an effort to look like a K-RAD D000D who never shamefully does a restore. I'll give you a hint. There's only one "spergy" person here. It's you.
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