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I skipped through two older Raw episodes last night, and I just had a few questions: 1. When did Raw make the transition from starting the show with wrestling to starting it with a 20-minute promo? Or did I just watch abnormal Raw from '97? 2. How long did the WWE/AAA partnership last for? It was really weird to see a six-man tag match with AAA wrestlers, but I seem to vaguely remember this happening for a while. I guess this question can also extend to the midget wrestling. I forgot about Mini-Vader, and it was the funniest goddamn thing when I saw it again. 3. What the hell was going on with the "Edge is a ladies man but is also marrying Ryan Shamrock" storyline? I had no memory of this ever happening.
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Feb 1, 2013 17:21
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Twin Cinema posted:I skipped through two older Raw episodes last night, and I just had a few questions: 1. The first time I can really remember this becoming a thing is during the McMahon-Helmsley Regime. But in 98-99 there were a fair amount of shows that started off with the Corporation cutting a promo in the ring too. 3. Are you thinking of Edge marrying Val Venis' sister? I don't remember the Ryan Shamrock thing
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Feb 1, 2013 17:25
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Val had a thing with Ryan Shamrock but I'm almost positive Edge didn't. That wasn't really in Edge's character at the time.
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Feb 1, 2013 17:27
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I thought they opened Raw's in 1997 with promos regularly...at least during the Hart Foundation/Austin stuff. Maybe I misunderstood the question.
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Feb 1, 2013 17:30
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It was only a recap of what had happened until that Raw, so it's probable that I misheard. I guess that would explain why Val Venis ran down to the ring when Al Snow/Steve Blackman beat them up too bad. As for the promo question. Bret Hart came out to start the second hour with a promo. I just couldn't remember if starting the show with wrestling was regular or not in the early days of Raw.
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Feb 1, 2013 17:38
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flashy_mcflash posted:Val had a thing with Ryan Shamrock but I'm almost positive Edge didn't. That wasn't really in Edge's character at the time. Wasn't the entire crux of the Shamrock/Venis feud that Ken was super-protective of his sister but she was supposedly a huge slut and giving it up to a bunch of the wrestlers, Val primary amongst them? I remember Goldust and Billy Gunn also being involved for trying to/succeeding in getting with Ryan, so I wouldn't be terribly surprised if they wedged Edge in on a one-off Raw too.
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Feb 1, 2013 20:18
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LightsGameraAction posted:Wasn't the entire crux of the Shamrock/Venis feud that Ken was super-protective of his sister but she was supposedly a huge slut and giving it up to a bunch of the wrestlers, Val primary amongst them? I remember a promo where Val Venus was in the shower with her and made a Shaving Ryan's Privates joke. That's all I can remember about Val Venus.
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Feb 1, 2013 21:21
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Grab Meatcastle posted:I remember a promo where Val Venus was in the shower with her and made a Shaving Ryan's Privates joke. That's all I can remember about Val Venus. Do you really need to remember anything else?
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Feb 1, 2013 21:25
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Gaylord Plower posted:Do you really need to remember anything else? Choppy choopy pee pee
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Feb 1, 2013 21:25
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I cleaned some of my childhood poo poo out of my parents shed last time I went home and one of the boxes had a Val Venis figure still in the original packaging.
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Feb 1, 2013 21:28
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Gaylord Plower posted:Do you really need to remember anything else? I think he said Hairy Twatter once too
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Feb 1, 2013 21:31
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Gaylord Plower posted:Do you really need to remember anything else? When his intro music hit and said "Helloooooo ladies!" Todd Grisham would gleefully respond "Hellooooo Val!"
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Feb 2, 2013 00:38
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Gaylord Plower posted:Do you really need to remember anything else? He stole Mr Socko and stuffed it down his trunks to give himself a boost. And he posts really stupid things on Twitter.
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Feb 2, 2013 00:55
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Happy Happyist posted:When his intro music hit and said "Helloooooo ladies!" Todd Grisham would gleefully respond "Hellooooo Val!" I don't remember this but it sounds too hilarious to be real.
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Feb 2, 2013 00:55
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Grab Meatcastle posted:I remember a promo where Val Venus was in the shower with her and made a Shaving Ryan's Privates joke. That's all I can remember about Val Venus. I just looked him up, and he's older than I thought - 41. (For reference, Goldust, who's been around FOREVER, is only 43.)
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Feb 2, 2013 06:45
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DDP is really fascinating, he spent a few years as a manager but didn't become a proper wrestler until he was 35 years old, and he didn't really begin to pick up popularity till he was 38. He was FORTY THREE years old when he won the WCW Title for the first time, and he didn't debut in WWE till he was 45 years old. poo poo is crazy. Edit: Just to further hammer it home, The Undertaker is currently 47 years old, only two years older than DDP was when he debuted in WWE (as a wrestler).
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Feb 2, 2013 06:53
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Red posted:I just looked him up, and he's older than I thought - 41. (For reference, Goldust, who's been around FOREVER, is only 43.) He looked to be in his mid 30s when he was a plucky 22 year old debuting in WCW.
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Feb 2, 2013 06:54
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Jerusalem posted:DDP is really fascinating, he spent a few years as a manager but didn't become a proper wrestler until he was 35 years old, and he didn't really begin to pick up popularity till he was 38. He was FORTY THREE years old when he won the WCW Title for the first time, and he didn't debut in WWE till he was 45 years old. poo poo is crazy.
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Feb 2, 2013 07:13
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Jerusalem posted:DDP is really fascinating, he spent a few years as a manager but didn't become a proper wrestler until he was 35 years old, and he didn't really begin to pick up popularity till he was 38. He was FORTY THREE years old when he won the WCW Title for the first time, and he didn't debut in WWE till he was 45 years old. poo poo is crazy. On one of the Legends Roundtables, DDP was talking about how he should have been a part of the wrestling generation before the one that he was a part of. Page is only 2 years younger than Piper. Is there anyone who was older than him by the time they became relevant?
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Feb 2, 2013 16:07
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Batista is about the only one I can think of who might come close.
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Feb 2, 2013 16:38
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An even more impressive fact: DDP is only 3 years younger than Hogan. He's only 6 years younger than RIC FLAIR.
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Feb 2, 2013 16:47
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VogeGandire posted:An even more impressive fact: DDP is only 3 years younger than Hogan. He's only 6 years younger than RIC FLAIR. No wonder he was one of the few guys accepted into the main event mix during WCW's collapse.
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Feb 2, 2013 19:40
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Red posted:No wonder he was one of the few guys accepted into the main event mix during WCW's collapse. The big difference here is that Hogan has been wrestling since '71 and DDP since '91.
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Feb 2, 2013 19:50
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Did Chyna really break one of her implants during a match, and if so, how did it happen?
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Feb 3, 2013 02:55
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When Steve Austin is talking into the mic he'll sometimes look up to enunciate a phrase "cause stone cold SAID SO", and flail one of his hands back and forth like he's playing the air trombone. What is this called, when did he start doing it, has anyone else ever talked about it?
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Feb 3, 2013 06:42
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maniacripper posted:When Steve Austin is talking into the mic he'll sometimes look up to enunciate a phrase "cause stone cold SAID SO", and flail one of his hands back and forth like he's playing the air trombone. I do believe he's "telling it on the mountain". That just sounds right to me.
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Feb 3, 2013 06:52
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Speaking of Stone Cold, when did he start calling himself that? The story of how his wife talked about "stone cold tea" is well-known, but when did he start using that nickname on television?
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Feb 3, 2013 09:09
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Jetfire posted:Speaking of Stone Cold, when did he start calling himself that? The story of how his wife talked about "stone cold tea" is well-known, but when did he start using that nickname on television? You are joking? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45muSkeDKtc Edit oh wait that is 3:16. Stone cold just happened after he left DiBiase bobkatt013 fucked around with this message at 09:14 on Feb 3, 2013 |
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Feb 3, 2013 09:12
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He debuted as "Stone Cold" in a Jobber match or something if I remember. I saw it once I think Vince just says something off hand like "He's calling himself Stone Cold Steve Austin now" or something. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fl1zHTerw0A I'm not sure if that is the actual video, but it's near enough. algebra testes fucked around with this message at 09:26 on Feb 3, 2013 |
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Feb 3, 2013 09:22
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LordPants posted:He debuted as "Stone Cold" in a Jobber match or something if I remember. I saw it once I think Vince just says something off hand like "He's calling himself Stone Cold Steve Austin now" or something. He really should have gone with Chilly McFreeze  Serious wresting question; when someone comes out on Smackdown, there's basically no trusting the pop they get, right? Production will just pipe in whatever pop Creative want them to have?
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Feb 3, 2013 10:02
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generally, yeah. top guys like Orton and Sheamus probably get their pops with little-to-no enhancements but when you see someone like, say, a returning Jack Swagger come out to what sounds like tremendous heat but you just see the audience sitting on their hands, yeah, it's not legit.
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Feb 3, 2013 10:11
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The Austin talk has really made me wish that WWE would recycle the old Ringmaster theme for someone. That song was creepy/awesome as hell.
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Feb 3, 2013 10:30
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Cardboard Box posted:generally, yeah. top guys like Orton and Sheamus probably get their pops with little-to-no enhancements but when you see someone like, say, a returning Jack Swagger come out to what sounds like tremendous heat but you just see the audience sitting on their hands, yeah, it's not legit. I always find it odd on Smackdown when they cut to a wide shot of the audience with the entranceway in view, usually at the moment they're expecting a giant pop/people to be jumping to their feet, and the people clearly aren't reacting (to the extent that the audio makes it appear they are). Since it is a taped show, I always figured if they didn't get the,"YEAAAAHHHH!" reaction they were looking for they could just use a different camera angle so it isn't quite as obvious audio-sweetening.
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Feb 3, 2013 12:12
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How did the People's Elbow evolve as a move? Did the Rock always do the little gestures that lead up to the actual elbow drop? It's always looked kinda silly to me, plus it reminds of the episode of Malcolm in the Middle where Hal goes bowling and accumulates all these silly little superstitions when trying to bowl a perfect game.
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Feb 3, 2013 13:02
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Answers Me posted:How did the People's Elbow evolve as a move? Did the Rock always do the little gestures that lead up to the actual elbow drop? It's always looked kinda silly to me, plus it reminds of the episode of Malcolm in the Middle where Hal goes bowling and accumulates all these silly little superstitions when trying to bowl a perfect game. Was that the one where Francis tried to dissolve the body in the bath tub? Why did Bret Hart have to wrestle MAD TV's Will Sasso on Nitro? Was there a build up to the match on MAD TV? At the time it seemed pretty random and a waste of Bret's talents and time.
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Feb 3, 2013 14:39
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Answers Me posted:How did the People's Elbow evolve as a move? Did the Rock always do the little gestures that lead up to the actual elbow drop? It's always looked kinda silly to me, plus it reminds of the episode of Malcolm in the Middle where Hal goes bowling and accumulates all these silly little superstitions when trying to bowl a perfect game. I dont this one is the first but it's close https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7my_hMxZAU&feature=youtube_gdata_player He set's it up with his old finisher and doesn't take the elbow pad off. It's notable that the match this is from is when Mark Henry turned and joined the Nation.
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Feb 3, 2013 14:48
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bartok posted:Why did Bret Hart have to wrestle MAD TV's Will Sasso on Nitro? Was there a build up to the match on MAD TV? At the time it seemed pretty random and a waste of Bret's talents and time. Yeah, Bret appeared on an episode of MAD TV. If I remember correctly he "went off-script" and attacked Sasso with a chair. This may have also been the same episode that featured David Arquette and Sting.
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Feb 3, 2013 18:01
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bartok posted:Was that the one where Francis tried to dissolve the body in the bath tub? I heard that Chyna and Sunny were seen going into a house with an ATM
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Feb 3, 2013 19:06
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Does anyone happen to have that clip of McMahon forcing Trish to strip in the middle of the ring and bark like a dog? I have seen pictures of it, but the video is required because I'm trying to give a presentation and it's basically the perfect video for the presentation. I have the date of it and everything but it seems that the videos of it have been removed, I can't find it on Youtube, at least. I know it's on a DVD but I don't have that DVD and I think it might be  if I ask for a scene off a DVD, so I'm hoping someone has the clip on a site somewhere that I couldn't find searching, or something. Does anyone happen to have the clip or be better at me at googling or something?
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Flare_knight posted:Does anyone happen to have that clip of McMahon forcing Trish to strip in the middle of the ring and bark like a dog? I have seen pictures of it, but the video is required because I'm trying to give a presentation and it's basically the perfect video for the presentation. I have the date of it and everything but it seems that the videos of it have been removed, I can't find it on Youtube, at least. I know it's on a DVD but I don't have that DVD and I think it might be Did you try daily motioning it? That was a clip removed in WWE purge during the election along with Katie Vick, yet they allowed the smackdown episode with the Mexicools and Undertaker terrorist attack remain up.
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