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Mild derail, but since a couple people wondered and I happen to know: The photographer of the crying babies series (entitled 'End Times') is Jill Greenberg and her photos are meant to be distressing/shocking. I don't like her methods, they are cruel, petty, and utterly selfish. It was revealed that U.S. photographer Jill Greenberg had provoked the tears of the two and three-year-olds by giving them a lollipop for 30 seconds and then suddenly taking it away. [snip] She took the sequence of images, enlarged to 1m by 1.2m, in response to the troubled future children face in today's world. Yes, like dealing with arrogant artists that deliberately provoke small children to tears for An Art. She was most famous here in America for doing a 2008 photo shoot with Presidential candidate Senator John McCain and misleading he and his staff about the nature and composition of the photos. You may remember them, he had shark's teeth photoshopped in and was portrayed as a literal moster. I'm not a fan of Senator McCain by any means and I feel that was a dick move by Greenberg. I think she's also the one that took the GQ cover photo of Glenn Beck's crocodile tears that were manufactured with the aid of Vick's VapoRub. Unlike McCain, I recall Beck was in on the joke. Anyway, back to your scheduled fash bash, I enjoy reading the updates and stories and commentary!
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Oh look, the British Freedom Party have disbanded, not with a bang but a whimper. Could anyone have foreseen such a thing?quote:The English Defence League's political wing, the British Freedom Party, appears to have wound up it's operations and de-registered themselves from the electoral commission by not sending them their £25 fee. Nothing has been posted on any of their social media websites since the 12th December which is the day after they were de-registered. Full story
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# ? Dec 20, 2012 18:06 |
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RIP EDL, good loving riddance.
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# ? Dec 21, 2012 10:36 |
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Paul "Stephen "Tommy Robinson" Lennon" Harris got 10 months http://news.sky.com/story/1034468/edl-leader-lennon-jailed-for-passport-offenceSky News posted:EDL Leader Lennon Jailed For Passport Offence Rude Dude With Tude fucked around with this message at 14:28 on Jan 7, 2013 |
# ? Jan 7, 2013 14:19 |
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Wait, so I knew Tommeh was a fake name, but Stephen Lennon is as well? What is the reason for this?
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# ? Jan 7, 2013 20:34 |
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identity issues
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# ? Jan 7, 2013 20:51 |
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Ooh, do you think he'll go all David Shayler in a few years?
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# ? Jan 7, 2013 21:06 |
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I doubt it but bringing up Shayler has got me thinking about an alternative explanation, and that is Tr/SYL/PH or whatever is a MI5 asset. Given the history of the far right and its repeated infiltration by the security services in the 70s and 80s at the highest level it doesn't seem so far fetched.
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# ? Jan 8, 2013 07:58 |
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Serotonin posted:I doubt it but bringing up Shayler has got me thinking about an alternative explanation, and that is Tr/SYL/PH or whatever is a MI5 asset. Given the history of the far right and its repeated infiltration by the security services in the 70s and 80s at the highest level it doesn't seem so far fetched. You'd think he'd have access to a better class of forged passport in those circumstances, although having said that if he hadn't been dumb enough to boast about it would he ever have been nicked for it? So with the BNP and the EDL now imploding, does this mean we're winning? Or does it just mean that the political centre has now shifted so far to the right that there's literally no room for the fascist fringe any more?
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# ? Jan 8, 2013 09:17 |
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I was worried the EDL is a goner (and so is this thread), but it seems they're up to something in Manchester. I wouldn't call a 500-person demo "huge", and Facebook can hardly be used to gauge potential attendance, but it's something, I guess. I'm counting on more EDL hilarity, but the fact that they need over 3 months to organize a 500 person event doesn't bode well for the future.
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# ? Jan 8, 2013 12:26 |
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Going by Facebook numbers of 500... it means they'd be lucky to break 100.
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# ? Jan 8, 2013 12:37 |
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goddamnedtwisto posted:You'd think he'd have access to a better class of forged passport in those circumstances, although having said that if he hadn't been dumb enough to boast about it would he ever have been nicked for it? I expect its more likely he's an asset as opposed to an agent as such. There's been a lot of accusations of grassing within the EDL in particular and and he finger has been pointed his way many a time.
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# ? Jan 8, 2013 13:47 |
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Serotonin posted:I expect its more likely he's an asset as opposed to an agent as such. There's been a lot of accusations of grassing within the EDL in particular and and he finger has been pointed his way many a time. Tommy having MI5 help would explain how he manages to remain in place as leader despite being an obvious idiot. He makes Nick Griffin look capable. goddamnedtwisto posted:So with the BNP and the EDL now imploding, does this mean we're winning? Or does it just mean that the political centre has now shifted so far to the right that there's literally no room for the fascist fringe any more? Far right groups tend to not do as well under right wing governments, same thing happened under Thatcher with the national front.
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# ? Jan 8, 2013 14:06 |
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goddamnedtwisto posted:You'd think he'd have access to a better class of forged passport in those circumstances, although having said that if he hadn't been dumb enough to boast about it would he ever have been nicked for it?
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# ? Jan 8, 2013 14:11 |
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It's strange that he got through Heathrow- I used my passport as ID for a domestic flight years back and they put it on an OCR thing before I went through.
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# ? Jan 9, 2013 02:19 |
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marktheando posted:Tommy having MI5 help would explain how he manages to remain in place as leader despite being an obvious idiot. He makes Nick Griffin look capable. Even before that it was hard to for fringe groups to look too genocidal and racist when the Labour government in power is killing tens of thousands of muslims,
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# ? Jan 9, 2013 02:25 |
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Wootcannon posted:It's strange that he got through Heathrow- I used my passport as ID for a domestic flight years back and they put it on an OCR thing before I went through. The passport was real, it just didn't belong to him.
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# ? Jan 9, 2013 08:34 |
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goddamnedtwisto posted:The passport was real, it just didn't belong to him. The one he tried to get in to the US with wasn't his, but the one he returned to the UK with was. It just happens to have the name Paul Harris on.
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# ? Jan 9, 2013 08:42 |
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More on the name front. Some of you might know this already, sop my apologies if you do. Obviously we all know Tommy Robinson is an alias, but what I didnt know was where he stole it from. I had always been told Tommy was a big time football hooligan well connected in Luton firms, it turns out to be totally true. Thing is, its not Stephen Yaxley-Lennon/Paul Harris. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m8EODEbqQF4&t=1529s (clip from that awful Danny Dyer docu on footy hooligans) This guys the real Tommy Robinson, top boy in the Luton MIG, their notorious firm (for yansk reading a firm is the name given to an organised gang of football hooligans). http://www.amazon.co.uk/Mig-Down-Tommy-Robinson/dp/0955039401 Apparently Yaxley-Lennon nicked his name to give himself a rep and look hard and some of the well publicised assaults back in the early days of the EDL that were blamed on him being jumped by angry muslims were from the real Tommy Robinson and his mates none to happy that this little squirt was trying to look hard with a fake name as well as smearing the real Tommy Robinson as a hardcore racist. Stormfront are also not claiming that Paul Harris is his real birth name, but that he was adopted and Yaxley-Lennon is his adoptive parents name. Interesting.
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# ? Jan 19, 2013 09:52 |
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So, seeing as it’s nearly February, I figure it’s time for an update as to what the EDL and Co got up to at the end of last year Yeah… Sorry. I’ve been caught up in other things. Also the EDL have not been up to much. At all. First: A quick summary of their current condition: They’re dead. Tommy in Jail, the BFP pretty much wrapped up (get to that in a bit) and every pack of pub racists is now their own club. The most prominent of them at the moment is the EVF (English Volunteer Force) with England’s Golden Dawn as a close second (at least on Facebook). So. Last we heard Steve Lennon/Paul Harris/Tommeh was sentenced. 10 Months was a little on the mild side, IMHO, but then I don’t know the full details of the case. Personally, I figure they gave him a sentence that would guarantee he’d be inside right up to his Mortgage Fraud case where (as the leader of a number of people) he’d likely be given a couple of years. Since then, the leadership of the EDL fell to Kev Carroll. He has been useless in this facility. Shortly after, this happened:Kev Carroll Becomes British Freedom Chairman (BFP link) The article is hilarious: quote:Mr Carroll, who posted the best ever election results for British Freedom in the Befordshire PCC elections, will assume the position from Paul Weston, the latter having stepped down to concentrate on a literary contribution to the battle against Britain’s national trajectory. I could riff the whole article, but I’d be here all day! Needless to say that quitting the party is the cleverest thing Westie has ever done, leaving it, and the need to Re-Regester as a political party to Kev Carroll who, of course, has done nothing in his new position. Except get arrested, that is. Yup And not only that – but he has his own party to thank for providing evidence supporting his arrest following the fact. From the BFP website, again, quote:Kevin Carroll, the Chairman of the British Freedom Party, was arrested in Luton on Saturday for making a comment on Facebook. Here’s the screenshot: Something tells me that whoever wrote the post (originally from Gates Of Vienna) doesn’t understand the use of the word “Allegedly”. So… Since then pretty much all that has happened is this: That’s the English Volunteer Unless it took 80 people to hold the camera, the most anyone has counted in the pics they provided, (minus policemen) was 40. So, that’s about it. I’ll try to get back to more regular and funnier updates, but what with them on the wind-down, I figure both kinds of posts will be a bit more sparse.
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# ? Jan 28, 2013 20:23 |
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You know, those guys are pathetic assholes as per usual, but doesn't arresting jerks for facebook comments really strengthen their sense of persecution?
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# ? Jan 28, 2013 20:25 |
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Oh god, this write-up of the EVF in Brumquote:The English Volunteer Force (EVF) – an offshoot of the English Defence League (EDL) – gathered in Centenary Square to protest about the ‘Islamification of Great Britain’.
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# ? Jan 29, 2013 15:39 |
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So - for the past few months various three-letter-anagram collections of nobbers have been threatening to "demo" outside Abu Qatada's house. The other day this was posted: It was posted on the main EDL page, on the Britain First homepage and on numerous other blogs. The message was pretty clear: Don't go. You'll get yourselves, and us arrested. ... You don't think they're smart enough to take the advice of police and their own leaders, do you? Nope. Even England's Golden Yesterday. And then this morning they posted this: Shortly followed by this: The drama is still unfolding. It'll most likely be a damp squib though, the first thing any of these patriots will do as soon as they're arrested is deny any and all association with any group, leaving up to the police to prove membership, which'll probably be more effort than it's worth.
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# ? Feb 2, 2013 16:02 |
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Meanwhile... http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/shortcuts/2013/feb/01/disco-dance-edl-google-facebookGraun posted:How to disco dance the EDL off Google and Facebook
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# ? Feb 2, 2013 17:03 |
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KayTee posted:
They all use real names on their facebook posts, so it seems like if there was any will to punish them it would be trivial to link them.
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# ? Feb 2, 2013 17:59 |
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No comment.
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# ? Feb 12, 2013 11:16 |
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I'm not going to google their Latin moto. However, wasn't Latin introduced to the English by a conquering foreign power?
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# ? Feb 12, 2013 22:58 |
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Tally posted:I'm not going to google their Latin moto. However, wasn't Latin introduced to the English by a conquering foreign power? No, Christianity.
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# ? Feb 12, 2013 23:22 |
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A Sloth posted:No, Christianity. I thought it was the Romans. Live and learn.
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# ? Feb 12, 2013 23:34 |
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Tally posted:I thought it was the Romans. Live and learn. Bit of both.
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# ? Feb 12, 2013 23:49 |
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KayTee posted:
Jeffazedl is quite an Arabic name.
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# ? Feb 13, 2013 00:17 |
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EvilHawk posted:Jeffazedl is quite an Arabic name. His name's Jeff and he's in the EDL, probably. gently caress knows what the az is there for.
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# ? Feb 13, 2013 00:49 |
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Tally posted:I'm not going to google their Latin moto. However, wasn't Latin introduced to the English by a conquering foreign power? The English are a conquering foreign power. e: A foreign power power that didn't conquer the place until after the Romans had left. FreudianSlippers fucked around with this message at 18:08 on Feb 17, 2013 |
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Welp, they've stepped in the poo poo right good this time - and seem determined to bury themselves in it. From the BBC quote:The Attorney General is investigating after photographs said to show one of James Bulger's killers were allegedly posted on the internet. Article on EDL News Considering that the Casuals have attempted to "out" members of the Exposing Racism and Intolerance Facebook Page, as well as the EDL News team several times, and have yet to be correct once, (With one Exposing member (hurr) being outed as at least 3 different people at one point) It's doubtful that the pics are correct - not that it matters to the guy wanting to "cut his belly open and make him run carrying his guts".
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# ? Feb 14, 2013 16:27 |
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I saw it when some idiot shared it from a group on facebook called 'The Northern Casuals'. Their page basically being what you may expect, the usual anti-Islamic shite interspersed with youtube links of Oasis and the Stereophonics. In particular I enjoyed an incredibly angry post about Cameron letting more Indian students have places at English unis from people who never went to loving school.
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# ? Feb 14, 2013 20:04 |
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Is there a reason for the image ban? Like the killer's lives might be at risk if the public knew what they looked like or something along the lines?
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# ? Feb 15, 2013 18:15 |
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Superb Owls posted:Is there a reason for the image ban? Like the killer's lives might be at risk if the public knew what they looked like or something along the lines? To stop vigilantism and rightly so, he served his sentence, we can't have these fucks hunting him down on the streets (or more likely, some poor guy who happens to look like him).
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# ? Feb 15, 2013 18:25 |
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Isn't venables in prison indefinitely?
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# ? Feb 15, 2013 18:37 |
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30.5 Days posted:Isn't venables in prison indefinitely? He may as well be. According to another poster in the UK Megathread he's behind bars (Specifically for getting drunk and giving up his real identity - several times) he can be denied early parole, but the UK doesn't have the ability to hold anyone indefinitely. And given that there were people literally lining up to murder the pair when they were 10, the clink is probably the safest place for him.
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# ? Feb 15, 2013 18:47 |
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aeverous posted:To stop vigilantism and rightly so, he served his sentence, we can't have these fucks hunting him down on the streets (or more likely, some poor guy who happens to look like him). Venables is back in jail for childporn possession, but protecting lookalike members of the public is the main aim. Pictures of three distinctly different men have been circulating on FB as Venables in recent days, all three are almost certainly not him. Remember that this is the country where a paediatrician was forced out of her home because of her job title being misunderstood by some mentally deficient cromagnons. twoot fucked around with this message at 20:19 on Feb 15, 2013 |
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