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Thanks MP, that totally did the trick. Not to get greedy, but could you offer me some advice on squelchy almost bell sounding thing do little scales during the verse of this song? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sokeAMDm7mk
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The way you make that vocal "yai-yai" sound without a specific wavetable in Massive (which gives you a bit more room to play with) is to use the "sample and hold" insert, turn the mix to around 100% and the pitch up pretty high, and then add a low pass filter and automate that. Experiment with the pitch setting to change the timbre of the "yai". Edit: You might be able to get the Wavvy bell-sound in massive by doing the standard "pluck" settings, i.e. a low pass filter with no sustain, no attack, and decay to taste. Then try using the modulation oscillator, changing the formant intensity on one or more oscillators, or looking through the wavetables and adjusting filter resonance to get that snappy tone. It would probably be easy to do something similar in FM synthesis, but my strategy there is barely more than educated trial and error until something works. The Mystery Date fucked around with this message at 00:46 on Nov 29, 2012 |
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This might be really nerdy, but are any of you be interested to help me a bit with the sound analyzation of the 1980's Doctor Who theme? The theme in question: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2oCK89xxNQ I'm asking this because while I've made some decent progress in identifying and replicating the sounds here, there are some elements that still stump me. Mainly: 1. The lead synth (0:08, created with the ARP Odyssee MK2) 2. The lead bass sound (best heard at 1:13, created with a Yamaha CS-80) 3. The intro "scream" (right at the beginning, done somehow with the CS-80's ring modulator???) 4. The ending boom (2:37, apparently a broken phaser) There's an excellent video where Peter Howell, the creator of the 1980 theme, explains how he created some of the different sounds. It doesn't explain everything however, so it would be cool if some goons had insight into this matter. These sounds are truly unique, and it would be awesome to get a grasp on them. Also, I could post how I've analyzed the sounds I did manage to replicate and how they're done if that's interesting at all. Kikka fucked around with this message at 19:33 on Nov 30, 2012 |
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Nov 30, 2012 19:28
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I know the scream is a ring modulator sweep, done with the dedicated EG on the CS-80's ring mod circuit. I was able to recreate it to a certain degree with my Monotron using an audio frequency LFO patched to the filter with mid-high resonance and then sweeping the filter closed. The lead is, I think a sine or two with portamento, I'll have to check. The bass is two presets layered, no idea about them.
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Nov 30, 2012 19:43
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Howell was pretty crazy about using presets, not surprising since he did he whole theme in five weeks. The bass was done with the presets Funky one and two, but I don't get how the final sound was made from those. Also, the problem with the lead melody being a sine is that I'm not sure if it's possible to get a sine sound out of an Odyssey. The best I've managed is a square-wave sound that is much too harsh. Kikka fucked around with this message at 22:14 on Nov 30, 2012 |
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Nov 30, 2012 19:47
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I'm hoping you guys could tell me how the synth pad in this track from the Near Dark soundtrack by Tangerine Dream is created. It sounds very simple but I'm terrible with synth programming. It starts at 4:39 in this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bEahY-AJObk I gather it's probably a couple of saw waves detuned with some LPF on top but I've been experimenting and can't recreate it despite my efforts. Huge thanks to anyone willing to help me.
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Crossposted from the TVIV Doctor Who thread:kikka posted:Here's some of my analyzing of a few elements from the 1980's Doctor Who theme by Peter Howell. Also to the above poster: That sound is very 90's. You might try to look up some pad presets in various virtual synths, it's a very popular sound.
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Can someone help me understand what makes the main synth sound in this track so insanely huge sounding? I've been trying for a while and can't seem to get anywhere near it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1lMVYkT03V0
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unSavory posted:Can someone help me understand what makes the main synth sound in this track so insanely huge sounding? I've been trying for a while and can't seem to get anywhere near it. I'm not sure what you mean by "main synth" but part of the answer is probably layering and lots of compression.
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unSavory posted:Can someone help me understand what makes the main synth sound in this track so insanely huge sounding? I've been trying for a while and can't seem to get anywhere near it. Seems like it's a moog bass, plus some pads and leads, with plenty of tube distortion in all the right places, and all sorts of loudness maximizing voodoo. Turn it down so the RMS levels match "normal" stuff and it sounds only half as big. Also don't forget the subtle reverb. Also kind of sounds like maybe a comb filter on the bass after the lowpass. Anyone know how to recreate this flange-y bass sound? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8R7ZThnH00 snorch fucked around with this message at 19:16 on Jan 4, 2013 |
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I'm using Ableton and I want to make something like THIS. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tg-yC0xcI9s Any tips of getting that "western" sound? That screeching guitar, the whole...everything. I need a crash course.
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Radical Griff posted:I'm using Ableton and I want to make something like THIS. The "western" guitar sound is usually a baritone electric played with shitloads of spring reverb.
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How does Daft Punk get so much punchiness to their kick (specifically from their Discovery album)? Also do you think they recorded all their drum samples or do they use a VST? I am in love. While I'm asking around, where do you guys get all your drum samples?
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I'm new at producing, but I would take something like an 808 and drop an EQ8 on it, then bring up "punch" range. It'll make it punch, trust me. I made this lovely thing to demonstrate: 
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Any ideas on the kick drum component of the main percussion part of this song? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-kjLzAIYAY Around 13 or 14 seconds when the main percussion drops in. Sounds like maybe a sample, like a down-pitched and filtered recording of people stamping in the bleachers. EDIT: Also as a side note is 808 a general term for big, long-decay sine wave bass drums? I know what the TR808 is and what it sounds like, just wondering if it's become a generic word. Radio du Cambodge fucked around with this message at 22:54 on Jan 22, 2013 |
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Radio du Cambodge posted:EDIT: Also as a side note is 808 a general term for big, long-decay sine wave bass drums? I know what the TR808 is and what it sounds like, just wondering if it's become a generic word. I was referring specifically to the TR808, but the implication is that it would work with pretty much any sine bass.
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Radical Griff posted:I was referring specifically to the TR808, but the implication is that it would work with pretty much any sine bass. OK, that makes sense, but I wasn't asking in reference to your post in particular. I've heard it used a couple times in social situations and online that have made me wonder if people use it to mean "roland tr808 bass drum" or just "big fat bass drum." I guess it doesn't really matter and maybe there's no way to tell without challenging someone on it like a total nerd?
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Just use a sine with pitch mod and layer a natural kick drum over it with some verb and EQ out the everything after like 80 or 70 maybe on the natty kick. If you use FLStudio, put 1 second sine into the sampler and play with the "pogo" knob to the left
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How do I make this droney almost duduk sounding synth at the beginning of this track? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMvOkUMPZ0g
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If you mean the kicks I would say it's a sine kick with lots of saturation and distortion on it. As for the synth itself, maybe just an electric guitar of some type (maybe muted) with some added reverb? I could do it with that in Ableton, but it would be more about using the right chords and tones to give it that creepy feel than the sound itself.
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slardel posted:I've tried to recreate or find the right sample to achieve this delayed atmospheric rainstick/shaker sound so many times, but I've never gotten it sounding quite right and I always end up giving up and scrapping it. Thoogsby posted:Really interested in this as well. Has this been answered? Try putting an LFO on the amplitude of some bright white noise (kill the low and mid, crank the high) then add lots of reverb. Automate some panning.
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Radical Griff posted:If you mean the kicks I would say it's a sine kick with lots of saturation and distortion on it. Yeah, the synth. If it is actually a guitar, I assume there's probably an ebow or a volume pedal in play there because the attack doesn't sound traditional.
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Angular Landbury posted:How do I make this droney almost duduk sounding synth at the beginning of this track? I can't tell you how to actually recreate that sound, but if you're interested in the actual sample used in that song, it's from a sample library by Big Fish Audio called Alien Guitars.
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Angular Landbury posted:Yeah, the synth. If it is actually a guitar, I assume there's probably an ebow or a volume pedal in play there because the attack doesn't sound traditional. I would put an Equaliser on it and Reverb and just tweak it. I think that should do it.
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Any ideas on the drums on this (what a dum example, right?) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KoyATvlEyzU Looking for the kick and snare on the first few seconds when its sounding super Drive-y. I've got an ok collection of drum samples but can't really figure what meta tags to throw at it to find something like this.
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The kick sounds like a run of the mill "clicky" sort of metal kick. The snare sounds like a medium high, possibly synth-generated, tom tom with a burst white noise layered on top of it.
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Righto, thanks much. I'll give it a shot.
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So I'm trying to recreate a really lovely bass from Hatiras recently, or at least something in the proximity of it. HJoey Seminara and Danny Nagels feat. MC Flipside - Just the Tip The bass has a really low cutoff at first, and opens up about halfway through the song. So far, I gather it's either a low pitched saw/square wave (or possibly both layered), with a filter a relatively short filter decay. At the drop, That filter opens up as does the sustain. I figured I'd try to use Arturia Minimoog or Sylenth to try and recreate it, and I've also experimented with doing it using Operator in Ableton. I'm able to do a halfway decent job of getting the basic sound- but I can't seem to get the 'crunch' sounding right. I don't even want it to sound the same necessary, but just a way to get that nice warm crunch. It also has a nice, bassy to it that's very in your face, so I'm thinking it's layered with something with a really quick attack and short decay for some added thunk.
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Poizen Jam posted:So I'm trying to recreate a really lovely bass from Hatiras recently, or at least something in the proximity of it. I think you're on the right track, it sounds to me like a filtered square (maybe with saw), working the filter decay (sounds like maybe the filter envelope depth rather than the filter freq being changed), maaaaybe a bit of a pulse wave envelope - there is also a massive amount of sidechaining to the kick which is often the trick to getting those housey sounds pumping.
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What's going on with the intro synth in Hi-Tech Jazz: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8C0MSLVJ0B0 ? I got reasonably close to the plinky upper tone with a triangle wave and the right envelope but I can't figure out what the wavey reverby stuff underneath is from.
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Sounds like something with a square LFO on the pitch detuning the thing a fifth apart, and a delay afterward.
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field balm posted:I think you're on the right track, it sounds to me like a filtered square (maybe with saw), working the filter decay (sounds like maybe the filter envelope depth rather than the filter freq being changed), maaaaybe a bit of a pulse wave envelope - there is also a massive amount of sidechaining to the kick which is often the trick to getting those housey sounds pumping. Yeah, the sidechaining is pretty brick wall for that track. I worked out that it was a square just fine. By filter envelope depth, do you mean the filter envelope inside the vst opens up as opposed to an after-the-fact filter sweep? I kind of figured that was the case if so. Also, what do you mean by pulse wave envelope- is that what's generating the gritty timbre?
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Poizen Jam posted:Yeah, the sidechaining is pretty brick wall for that track. I worked out that it was a square just fine. By filter envelope depth, do you mean the filter envelope inside the vst opens up as opposed to an after-the-fact filter sweep? I kind of figured that was the case if so. Also, what do you mean by pulse wave envelope- is that what's generating the gritty timbre? Sorry if I sounded condescending in that first reply! Correct about the filter envelope depth. I meant the pulse width envelope, not pulse wave sorry! It is used often to make square wave sounds more gritty by offsetting the shape of the waveform (I think) - not sure if its used in this song but I'd try it out. http://www.sequencer.de/synth/index.php/Pulse_width_modulation. Most synths with a square wave osc will let you modulate it in some way. field balm fucked around with this message at 22:12 on Feb 10, 2013 |
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I want bass like this: http://youtu.be/CurdEWB9HBg It's just a classic sound, but thus far I haven't really nailed it. It's sounding like a Korg MS10 or MS20 single oscillator type of sound, but I'm not sure.
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Juno-106, suboscillator enabled (so that's just a single square wave, nothing else), resonance up at 50%-ish, cutoff down until it's tuned properly relative to the root note, keytracking at 100%. What do you have/use?
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I haven't got that much of a hardware studio (yet). I currently use - Ableton Live 8 with the Arturia bundle and the Korg Legacy bundle - Akai S5000 sampler - Yamaha AN200, DX200, RMX-1 and a DX27 - A Mackie 24 ch mixer to blend it all But I'm looking to get a 'lead/pad synth' like a Roland D-50 or a JX-8P and something to generate a sturdy bass with. Mostly make things like this: https://soundcloud.com/sjoewe/sets/the-slow-works
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I'm trying to recreate a sound similar to this quick, I would say metallic reverby kind of sound at :30 in We're in This Together Now. Any ideas? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P9BfvPjsXXw
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Got an easy one for ya'll. http://youtu.be/DwaBCAywaZU @ 0:54 I hear this sound in literally dozens of trap/dubstep songs, and It sounds like a short synth that's simply layered to create that "slide" effect. Or does it have to do with the attack? I'm trying to recreate it and I'm not sure what the best route to go is. Thanks!
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magiccarpet posted:I'm trying to recreate a sound similar to this quick, I would say metallic reverby kind of sound at :30 in We're in This Together Now. Any ideas? It helps if you have a (software) sampler for this, but it's not mandatory. Sample the sound of hitting a metal tube with something, then pitch it down. Filter out any undesired low frequencies that you'll get because you pitched it down. Cut away the initial transient, fade the sound in. E1M5 posted:Got an easy one for ya'll. If you have NI Massive: http://www.mediafire.com/?241h12vtb3i5b0w The sound is a crushed/distorted square wave (reminiscent of dub sirens) and what happens is that the pitch is modulated with an envelope. I couldn't get the envelope shape right, however, and the crushing could use some better distortion than the built-in stuff, but there you go. Sjoewe posted:I haven't got that much of a hardware studio (yet). You have enough. The only issue I see is that I have nothing you have, and this calls for a typical "dry" Roland-ish filter as found on the 106. If you're feeling up to it you could try to recreate this screenshot on the AN200 (ignore all the parts you can't find on the AN; oscillator, filter and envelope only count) While U-He ACE (cheap, good) doesn't exactly get that kind of sound, it gets really close. I'd wager DIVA could get even closer. Screenshot: 
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This seems to be more of a synthesis thread, but maybe someone knows this... it's bothered me for a long time. It seems like in the last 4 years all of my favorite artists have a track or two with this style. Whenever the kick drum hits, it's like it draws the power out of all the other instruments and they go almost silent. It's got a lo-fi "I made this on a broken 4 track I found in my dad's garage" kind of feel and I like it. I have got close by abusing the settings on limiters but its not quite right. Lone's earlier stuff has it everywhere: http://youtu.be/sCEcXfYxvTo http://youtu.be/tnLm1M08u5I What are these guys doing? It's probably very simple.
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