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SLRP is a pretty rare option in active duty army, its more common in the reserves. Really any bonuses and options are pretty rare at the moment.
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6 years of AD time is necessary to get both SLRP and the FULL GI Bill, assuming you got SLRP on your contract. If you did a 4 year it would be 60% Post 9/11, for example. How much reserves/inactive time is up to your contract and whatever they are offering right now. SLRP covers up to a certain dollar amount, I'm not sure offhand how much. I am posting from my phone, you see.
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Understood, I'll be sure to ask to recruiters for the specifics that they are offering right now.
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Pyrok posted:Understood, I'll be sure to ask to recruiters for the specifics that they are offering right now. Just finish your degree and commission. Then even if you don't get SLRP, you'll have a decent enough salary to pay it off.
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Bob A Feet posted:Just finish your degree and commission. Then even if you don't get SLRP, you'll have a decent enough salary to pay it off. Well, the only thing about that. If I finish my degree, if I stay a civilian my salary will be insane. Even starting out, I'd be looking at 70k+ a year. I'm not set on anything yet, but I'm afraid that if I wait to finish my degree, I'd just stay a civilian.
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Feb 5, 2013 23:03
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Pyrok posted:Well, the only thing about that. If I finish my degree, if I stay a civilian my salary will be insane. Even starting out, I'd be looking at 70k+ a year. I'm not set on anything yet, but I'm afraid that if I wait to finish my degree, I'd just stay a civilian. There's nothing wrong with that, just make the decision at that time. You'll either be really excited about joining and have done tons of research on it, or you'll know for sure you don't want to.
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iceslice posted:There's nothing wrong with that, just make the decision at that time. You'll either be really excited about joining and have done tons of research on it, or you'll know for sure you don't want to. Good point. I've definitely got a lot to think about with all of this.
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Bob A Feet posted:Just finish your degree and commission. Then even if you don't get SLRP, you'll have a decent enough salary to pay it off. Theoretically this is the right idea, but you are not getting into OCS.
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I'm currently in DEP now for reserves. I had wanted to go active duty but at the time I got a sweet job and relocated and figured that reserves was the way to go because I wanted to always enlist. Now it's been a few months and was laid off from my job. I'm not in dire need to leaving ASAP as I have my finances in order and can support myself until I ship but now that I don't have a nice job I'm rethinking this plan. So my question is how easy is it to transition to active duty from reserves? Would I be able to keep my same MOS (Psychological Operations Specialist) after AIT and decide to switch or would I be forced to reclass as my recruiter said it's a reserve only job. Edit: I ask this because I'm worried about coming back after AIT and getting a poo poo(ier) job than what I would have in the Army between drills. I have no college degree though I would like to go back now that I'm older and not a dipshit but I understand that's not doable with Reserve educational benefits unless you can deploy, which seems unlikely for me any time soon. Fuchs fucked around with this message at 03:53 on Feb 8, 2013 |
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Right now it's difficult to go active from the Guard or Reserve due to restrictions on prior service. Right now it's limited to a select few MOSes. Also your reserve unit will need to release you.
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Isn't that 37F? I'm pretty sure that's an application MOS for Active, so that's an extra complication for you right there.
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Fuchs posted:I'm currently in DEP now for reserves. I had wanted to go active duty but at the time I got a sweet job and relocated and figured that reserves was the way to go because I wanted to always enlist. Now it's been a few months and was laid off from my job. I'm not in dire need to leaving ASAP as I have my finances in order and can support myself until I ship but now that I don't have a nice job I'm rethinking this plan. If you haven't shipped to boot camp yet, you can always change your contract to active duty. However, if Army recruiting is anything like the Marine Corps was, your recruiters may try to convince you to stay reserve because they have a mission for whatever local reserve unit is near you, that's harder to fill up than active duty is.
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DoktorLoken posted:Right now it's difficult to go active from the Guard or Reserve due to restrictions on prior service. Right now it's limited to a select few MOSes. Also your reserve unit will need to release you. Thanks for the info, would they have to release me now even though I'm pre-IET too? I have already done my processing with them and have attended a few drills. not caring here posted:Isn't that 37F? I'm pretty sure that's an application MOS for Active, so that's an extra complication for you right there. Yeah that's correct. What application MOS for Active mean, I have not heard of that. Hekk posted:If you haven't shipped to boot camp yet, you can always change your contract to active duty. However, if Army recruiting is anything like the Marine Corps was, your recruiters may try to convince you to stay reserve because they have a mission for whatever local reserve unit is near you, that's harder to fill up than active duty is. That is pretty much how it's coming across with my recruiter. Though he did say if I wanted to go Active he had no problems putting me in as an 18X, but I doubt I'd make it through SF selection.
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An application MOS, such as 37F, 38B, 35L, 31D, (and some others) is, for us active duty folks, not an option for initial enlistment. We got to meet certain requirements such as rank, time in service, time in grade, sometimes education, clearances, sometimes a physical try out (like MISO selection and assessment), and whatever other bullshit they come up with. Basically, you have to meet a certain set of pre-requisites and are then assessed by HRC (in most cases). So for me, say I'm a E2 with 6 months in. I'm eligible for nothing. Say I've got 2 years in, E4, no secret clearance (yet). That scratches me for all of the above MOSs. Give me a TS SCI and I'm good for 3 of them. Give me an associates degree and now I'm good for all. Make me an E7 and I'm scratched for... 3 of them. If you wanted to keep 37F as your initial MOS your only option would be to go reserve and then backdoor into active. It MAY be easier for you as 37F is still on the BEAR list with a bonus intact so they are obviously hurting for you guys a little. But, fuckin' HRC, who the gently caress knows.
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Oh gotcha and thanks for the info. Well that's something to think about I guess. I'm not totally adamant about getting the MOS just out of the options for the reserve it was the only one other than chaplain's assistant that carried bonuses (GI Bill kicker/SLRP/cash bonus none of which are that huge but figured why not since I'm going reserve anyways) and plus my recruiter said "It (was) part of USASOC and you get to train at USAJFKSWCS where SF goes to train!" and so I was like "omg that sounds awesome"  I'm assuming if I go active theres a much larger pool of jobs available that I could choose from. One last question (for anyone to answer) are there deployments you can volunteer for that are like, general skill deployments? (So I can be eligible for Post 9/11 if I stay reserve) At my last drill I was talking to another person in my unit and they told me about the TOD website which I checked out but do you have to be MOS qualified for the MOS listed in the deployment? Since it seems like if I stayed reserve as a 37F it's unlikely I could get deployed. At least definitely not as a unit as those in my unit I've spoken with have been there for years and never deployed anywhere.
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Apparently my waiver w/ documents from my optometrist saying my vision is correctable to 20/20 was denied. 1. I test correctable to 20/25 at MEPS. The job I want requires 20/20. However, I'm enlisted in a job that also requires 20/20. 2. Submit documents from 6 months ago saying I can correct to 20/20 and MEPS probably hosed up or I read a letter wrong. 3. "He could have told the optometrist a sob story, and we only want people 100% qualified." ~ What my recruiter says he was told by the waiver guy. 4. I had the appointment 6 months before I even went to MEPS, before I knew I tested 20/25. 5. Now my recruiter says I should just drop out as it's never going to happen.  What the gently caress? vvv It's CTN. Bright Eyes fucked around with this message at 20:22 on Feb 8, 2013 |
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What job?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XIX0ZDqDljA You can't always get what you want But if you try sometimes, you might find You get what you need
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Basically his numbers are set go away. It's bizarro 2007.
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So try for 35Q/P/S/N and their USAF equivalents if the Navy won't waiver it.
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I'd like to concentrate on networks and network security. Army 35Q isn't available reserves, yet(?). I'll probably try ANG Cyber Transport. I was more surprised that he just flat out told me to drop. Also that a 5 point difference on an eye exam w/ documents gets denied. o.0 But draw down and all that I guess.
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Bright Eyes posted:Apparently my waiver w/ documents from my optometrist saying my vision is correctable to 20/20 was denied. It wasn't even that long ago that being a near sighted felon with a history of mental health issues and a wife and kid wasn't even an impediment to getting into the military. Goddamn things have gotten weird, fast. I'm 100% positive I couldn't get into the military today if I tried. Guess I was an idiot at the right time and place. I'm hearing that security clearances are getting harder to get/keep now too-- from multiple sources.
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GAS CURES KIKES posted:It wasn't even that long ago that being a near sighted felon with a history of mental health issues and a wife and kid wasn't even an impediment to getting into the military. gently caress you, I pull my own weight. But yes, something as trivial as an optometry error becoming a bar to enlistment means things are getting rediculous. I think this means we're out of money.
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GAS CURES KIKES posted:I'm hearing that security clearances are getting harder to get/keep now too-- from multiple sources. Have you heard about what kinds of things that used to be overlooked are now bigger obstacles in getting a TS clearance? I want to join the Army as a 35P and it sounds pretty hard to get into what with the DLAB test and the TS clearance.
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So I just signed into DEP as a CTM in the Navy, anybody have any experience in this rate? Shipping in Sept. I wanted CTN but it was not available. edit: If I should just post this in the Navy thread let me know.
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Eh, wrong thread. My bad.
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Conqueror Bounma posted:So I just signed into DEP as a CTM in the Navy, anybody have any experience in this rate? Shipping in Sept. I wanted CTN but it was not available. Maybe? There are a lot of Cts in the navy thread...I don't know how many read this thread...
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Bright Eyes posted:
So I finally heard back and it's 100% no I can't go back to retest and they 100% won't take another eye exam from outside MEPS. Should be dropped in a few days. I already called the ANG base that's about an hour from where I am and they have Cyber Transport and Systems slots, so I'll try for that. Hopefully the Sec+ and TS/SCI might get me a job right out of tech school, but if not I can just go to state school on free tuition.  Thanks to everyone that's helped me over the past 1.5 years.
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Bright Eyes posted:So I finally heard back and it's 100% no I can't go back to retest and they 100% won't take another eye exam from outside MEPS. Should be dropped in a few days. You don't get free tuition right off the bat. You get 40% tuition/BAH/book stipend after completing 90 days. You get 60% after 12 months of active duty(outside of training). You get 80%, and your training time counts, after 24 months of active duty. You get 100% after 36 months of active duty. For example: When Post 9/11 was created, I was on my first 1 year activation. When I returned to school, I earned benefits at the 60% rate(Your initial training doesn't count towards benefits with only 12 months of active duty). When I got back from my second 1 year activation, I was entitled to Post 9/11 GI Bill at the 90% rate(24 months of active duty outside of initial training+9 months in training). You do not have to get activated for a deployment in order to earn benefits in the guard/reserves. Certain other types of active duty work*(but not annual training) count towards your benefit total. edit: *off the top of my head -formal military schools -ADSO -I'm not sure if ADSW counts or not. Pretty much, any period of active duty that generates a DD-214 counts towards your benefit total. The major exception being intial training until you hit that 24 month mark. vains fucked around with this message at 23:18 on Feb 21, 2013 |
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Sorry I should have been more specific. PA offers 100% tuition to National Guard members who attend a state system of higher education school. http://www.pheaa.org/funding-opportunities/aid-for-military-national-guard/national-guard-eap.shtml I just have to enlist for 6 years.
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Hello! I'm an off and on again reader of SA and thought I'd finally pay my dues and join up and become a member. Reading these forums has been a blast as I'm currently looking into joining the military and seeking a commission as an officer. The branches I'm currently looking into are the Navy and the Army. Here is a quick rundown of me: Age 30 B.A & M.A. East Asian Studies (3.8/3.6 gpa) No record Good physical condition I've currently got a package in with the Navy for a shot at Intel and should be hearing the results soon, however from what I've heard things are a bit of a crapshoot for civilians with the budget tightening and even if my package is perfect I may not get in. As a result I'm looking into the Army Intel and have done some preliminary work with a recruiter who states that my age of 31 at the time the board meets will not be too old for a shot at OCS, however from what I have read online you must enter OCS by your 30th birthday (which is contrary to what has been stated by my recruiter). I was wondering what you guys thought about having OCS/OTS packages for multiple branches at a time. My ultimate goal is military service and as I've had family in every branch I am not married to one in particular. I don't want to waste the time and effort of recruiters, yet at the same time my age is rapidly diminishing my opportunities and I don't want to miss the bus on this. Any feedback would be appreciated.
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Look into OCS with the Army Reserves, its quite a bit less competitive as it only takes the local recruiting company commanders ( an O3) approval for the program. Or so they say, no one has actually tried to go to USAR OCS since I've been here.
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Do you know anything about putting people in for WOCS (Technical, not aviation)? Apparently it's possible to apply for active duty WOCS from the RC or so I've read. The gist of it is -> Apply, get accepted, get conditional release from RC, enlist active duty for WOCS from what I gather. Not that I'm interested or qualified for that now, but something to keep in mind down the road. Flying_Crab fucked around with this message at 04:11 on Feb 23, 2013 |
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I'll get back to you on that but I know there are procedures for prior service applicants
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Looking for advice on what to do. I have no job. I live in a poo poo area. Only jobs are cashier and McDonalds. I have an education in I.T.. AAS in computer/network support from a tiny community college in my tiny town. Problem is, this degree is useless. Every IT job in the nearby Big City wants a 4-year degree. My girlfriend and I rent a house, we survive off her income. I'm thinking about joining a military branch. Get paid to train and learn and get fit, then use the G.I. Bill to get a degree. I 'm scared. I am not going to work in McDs for the rest of my life. I want out.
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Deep Winter posted:Looking for advice on what to do. I have no job. I live in a poo poo area. Only jobs are cashier and McDonalds. I have an education in I.T.. AAS in computer/network support from a tiny community college in my tiny town. Get fit before the military. The Military won't get you fit or keep you fit, it's a self controlled thing. Sorry to hear the life situation is sucking. Having a 2 year degree helps with your initial rank though. Which branch are you thinking about?
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Yeah, the Army will put you in as a PFC (E-3) with an associates which is a nice little pay bump over a new E-1. Also a year ahead in rank compared to people who come in as an E-1 although you'll take the same amount of time to make E-4. If you want to do IT stuff in the military I'd look at 25 series (not sure on the particular MOSes as I'm not signal) or 35T (This requires a TS/SCI so you'll need low unsecured debt, decent credit and no felonies at the very least) on the Army side. I wager the AF is even better if you want to do IT but probably harder to get a contract for.
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Sorry, meant "get fitter". Just referring to all the physical exercise I'd do. I was thinking about Air Force, Yeah.
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If you're smart, join the AF - get TS/SCI - ETS - get degree. I would advise against the Army for IT, or for anything in general, really. Your best bet is the Navy or Air Force for smart people jobs, which are highly valued in those branches.
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