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Kwik
Apr 4, 2006

You can't touch our beaver. :canada:

Crion posted:

Reilly predicted the Super Bowl to end 35-34 in OT today, btw (ESPN backtracked it after the fact to be 35-34 in regulation).

To do that, both teams need to get 32 points in regulation, which is no simple task. The three easiest ways:

4 TDs with 4 successful 2PCs
3 TDs with 2 successful PATs + 4 FG
4 TDS with 3 successful PATs + 1 FG + 1 safety

Then in overtime, Team A needs to score a FG on the first possession, Team B needs to drive to Team A's goal line, and then Team B has to turn the ball over to Team A then tackle Team A's recovering player in his own endzone for a safety, at which point Team B still loses the game.

That is how you get a 35-34 score in overtime.

You know, I kind of want this to happen now. We need more bizarre scorelines. Either that, or have it end 11-5.

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barkingclam
Jun 20, 2007

R.D. Mangles posted:

This is a great article about the potential of Smush Parker to cause a chain reaction to preventing the collapse of a Greek commercial titan:

Yeah, The Classical's been pretty good of late. I liked this piece by David Roth on Roger Goodell, the Super Bowl and one hell of a parade float.

Declan MacManus
Sep 1, 2011

damn i'm really in this bitch

R.D. Mangles posted:

This is a great article about the potential of Smush Parker to cause a chain reaction to preventing the collapse of a Greek commercial titan:

This article is amazing. I'm a sucker for any sports journalism from athletes, though.

Monday Bandele
Apr 26, 2008
I enjoyed his Ricky Rubio piece too: http://theclassical.org/articles/the-ricky-rubio-experience

MourningView
Sep 2, 2006


Is this Heaven?

Grittybeard posted:

On the subject of people worth disliking, Jeff Pearlman hates super bowl parties.

Insert your own jokes here.

Someone goatse this dude again.

morestuff
Aug 2, 2008

You can't stop what's coming

barkingclam posted:

Yeah, The Classical's been pretty good of late. I liked this piece by David Roth on Roger Goodell, the Super Bowl and one hell of a parade float.

A friend of mine from high school helped make the Goodell Vagina float. Her Facebook stream has been a constant mix of posts about the float and "I'm so sorry, Grandma."

FuzzySkinner
May 23, 2012

Grittybeard posted:

On the subject of people worth disliking, Jeff Pearlman hates super bowl parties.

Insert your own jokes here.

I think the subject at hand has potential.

There are quite a few goons I've seen in TFF who have said thay hate the Super Bowl because it invites a lot of people who have no clue about the sport to watch it.

Points could also be made that the media hype that surrounds it takes away quite a bit from the game itself. Like, I think if you're a fan of either of these teams, or off football itself, I don't think you really care about the etrade baby or beyonce.

The article was definitely poorly executed though.

Groucho Marxist
Dec 9, 2005

Do you smell what The Mauk is cooking?

MourningView posted:

Someone goatse this dude again.
I gave him some not getting goatse'd tips when we talked on the phone sorry

uublog
Jul 19, 2012

"World Champions. WORLD FUCKING CHAMPIONS." - Chase Utley, October 31, 2008; Broad Street, Philadelphia, PA
Just dropping by to remind you all that Sam Donnellon has a job writing trolling about sports professionally and you probably don't. Alright I'm gonna back to being lots of pages behind on this thread, later guys

uublog
Jul 19, 2012

"World Champions. WORLD FUCKING CHAMPIONS." - Chase Utley, October 31, 2008; Broad Street, Philadelphia, PA
double post but oh my god that isn't even the worst thing you'll read today

The worst think you'll read today would be courtesy of Jason Whitlock who is "devastated" to be rejected for an award that he is ineligible to win in the first place. Here's some fun quotes:

quote:

When I showed up at the Kansas City Star in 1994, I shook the entire Midwest and eventually the country.

quote:

Last year, it’s my belief, I had my best year as a columnist. It all came together. I perfected my column style. For years, I’ve tried to take sports headlines and transform them into lessons about American society at large.

quote:

I’m devastated and sad my dream has been stolen. OK, I gave it away unwittingly. Whatever, it still hurts. I spent 20 years chasing something that I can no longer obtain.

quote:

Pursuing the Pulitzer in an honest, transparent fashion has been one of the things that has kept me from selling out and simply pursuing money and fame. I pride myself on being a journalist. I feuded with and never made peace with ESPN because I see the Worldwide Leader as the enemy of sports journalism.

ESPN is the very justification for the Pulitzer’s stipulation forbidding broadcast media outlets from entering its competition.

Sig Gissler’s rejection email politely stated that I’d already sold out. drat.

quote:

I’d like for you to read the 10 columns I submitted for Pulitzer consideration. Yes, I’ve been reduced to begging you to tell me I did not sell out my goal of being like Mike Royko.
  • Jovan Belcher Murder-Suicide/Gun Culture 12/03/12
  • Joe Paterno Biography Deconstructed 09/06/12
  • Gabby Douglas Olympic Hair Controversy 08/03/12
  • Saints Bounty Scandal Reflects America 04/10/12
  • George Zimmerman-Trayvon Martin: OJ Simpson Part II 04/02/12
  • Vigilante Journalism Destroys Bernie Fine 04/23/12
  • Sneaker Company Exploits Prison Culture 06/21/12
  • NFL Replacement Refs Expose American Greed 09/25/12
  • ESPN’s First Take Panders To Victims Of Mass Incarceration 12/21/12
  • Penn State/College Football Too Big To Fail 07/12/12
(links edited out, obvs, but I wanted to highlight what he thinks to be his greatest work)

I don't really have a coherent response, just a lot of :psyboom:, so in closing, gently caress YOU JASON WHITLOCK

(H/T Drew Magary)

MourningView
Sep 2, 2006


Is this Heaven?
Yes clearly only the rules are preventing Jason Whitlock from winning the Pulitzer.

morestuff
Aug 2, 2008

You can't stop what's coming

quote:

George Zimmerman-Trayvon Martin: OJ Simpson Part II 04/02/12

Ugh

FairGame
Jul 24, 2001

Der Kommander

Mods please change my name to The Enemy of Sports Journalism

Mornacale
Dec 19, 2007

n=y where
y=hope and n=folly,
prospects=lies, win=lose,

self=Pirates

FairGame posted:

Mods please change my name to The Enemy of Sports Journalism

Mods please rename him to Jason Whitlock.

oldfan
Jul 22, 2007

"Mathewson pitched against Cincinnati yesterday. Another way of putting it is that Cincinnati lost a game of baseball."
There's so much stupid stuff in this article I got linked to on HBT that I don't really know where to start aside from 7 and 1 being particular gems.

uublog
Jul 19, 2012

"World Champions. WORLD FUCKING CHAMPIONS." - Chase Utley, October 31, 2008; Broad Street, Philadelphia, PA

jeffersonlives posted:

There's so much stupid stuff in this article I got linked to on HBT that I don't really know where to start aside from 7 and 1 being particular gems.

I saw "fangraphs..." loading and I was already starting my "Jesus christ, Cameron, what the gently caress?" He's nothing if not predictable(ly useless as a writer/analyst)

St1cky
Aug 16, 2005

Allow me to introduce myself. My name is Mike Alden, supergenius.

uublog posted:

double post but oh my god that isn't even the worst thing you'll read today

The worst think you'll read today would be courtesy of Jason Whitlock who is "devastated" to be rejected for an award that he is ineligible to win in the first place. Here's some fun quotes:





(links edited out, obvs, but I wanted to highlight what he thinks to be his greatest work)

I don't really have a coherent response, just a lot of :psyboom:, so in closing, gently caress YOU JASON WHITLOCK

(H/T Drew Magary)

He doesn't even report, he just gives his dumb opinions. And he made a huge fuss about office politics about the last paper he worked at and accused his boss of loving her boss in an "exit interview" on one of the sports talk stations.

The broken bones
Jan 3, 2008

Out beyond winning and losing, there is a field.

I will meet you there.

jeffersonlives posted:

There's so much stupid stuff in this article I got linked to on HBT that I don't really know where to start aside from 7 and 1 being particular gems.

hahahahahahaha no way. there's no way anybody could possibly even think the blue jays acquiring melky cabrera was more important than them acquiring Reyes, Josh Johnson and Mark Buerhle+, let alone that both of those were not as good as Denard Span going to Washington. This has to be some elaborate troll to get more/better players to Seattle.

Grittybeard
Mar 29, 2010

Bad, very bad!

St1cky posted:

He doesn't even report, he just gives his dumb opinions. And he made a huge fuss about office politics about the last paper he worked at and accused his boss of loving her boss in an "exit interview" on one of the sports talk stations.

I think he missed his calling. I enjoyed his radio show more than most sports radio and the best thing he's ever done might have been when he was just bullshitting for an hour with his barber about Tebow.

LARGE THE HEAD
Sep 1, 2009

"Competitive greatness is when you play your best against the best."

"Learn as if you were to live forever; live as if you were to die tomorrow."

--John Wooden
Yet another Whitlock column in which a nugget of gold is lodged under 10,000 feet of pure poo poo. In this case, the nugget is online journalism worthy of the Pulitzer Prize, something Whitlock certainly has no firsthand knowledge of.

Dick Williams
Aug 25, 2005
I'm like 99% sure at this point that Cameron's entire purpose as an 'analyst' is to sell fWAR as the be all and end all stat for Appelman even though everyone knows it's a joke. There's just no way it makes sense any other way

Super Jay Mann
Nov 6, 2008

I wanted to say that Cameron should just stay behind-the-scenes and stop writing, but honestly, I have way too much fun picking apart his terrible 'analysis' every couple days or so for me want it to go away.

The broken bones
Jan 3, 2008

Out beyond winning and losing, there is a field.

I will meet you there.
Camerons the new wave of Bill Plaschkes, where at some point he's going to stop listening to criticism and just publish whatever garbage he feels like because it gets page views and being relevant is more important than enlightening people.

He will probably outlast Bill Baer, Mike Petriello, Mark Simon, Cistulli, etc., because he literally doesn't give a poo poo about being wrong.

achillesforever6
Apr 23, 2012

psst you wanna do a communism?
I just want to say Ron Cook's tears right before and after the Super Bowl were delicious :qq: You Steelers fans shouldn't care about the 49ers winning a 6th Super Bowl, Ray Lewis is going to go out a champion!!!! :qq:

Also they moved Chris Mueller to the afternoon?

isnt that right
Dec 8, 2009

achillesforever6 posted:

Also they moved Chris Mueller to the afternoon?

It's a promotion!

Crion
Sep 30, 2004
baseball.

The broken bones posted:

Camerons the new wave of Bill Plaschkes, where at some point he's going to stop listening to criticism and just publish whatever garbage he feels like because it gets page views and being relevant is more important than enlightening people.

He will probably outlast Bill Baer, Mike Petriello, Mark Simon, Cistulli, etc., because he literally doesn't give a poo poo about being wrong.

I think I'd probably be fine with Cistulli not outlasting him

Super Jay Mann
Nov 6, 2008

The solution is to just have Sullivan write every FG article from now on and turn it into LL 2.0

I'd be totally okay with this.

Groucho Marxist
Dec 9, 2005

Do you smell what The Mauk is cooking?

Crion posted:

I think I'd probably be fine with Cistulli not outlasting him

yeah he's sucking up too much of wikipedia's bandwidth

uublog
Jul 19, 2012

"World Champions. WORLD FUCKING CHAMPIONS." - Chase Utley, October 31, 2008; Broad Street, Philadelphia, PA
I propose gathering all the elite writers and putting them at one Voltron-type blog. To be allowed in you must prove you can disagree with anything Cameron argues. All content is edited before publishing; anyone who tries to poo poo it up with dumb "contrarian for the sake of contrarian" articles without any facts supporting it is immediately sent back to write with the common plebeians.

The first important decision is do we let Crion in

Crion
Sep 30, 2004
baseball.

uublog posted:

I propose gathering all the elite writers and putting them at one Voltron-type blog. To be allowed in you must prove you can disagree with anything Cameron argues. All content is edited before publishing; anyone who tries to poo poo it up with dumb "contrarian for the sake of contrarian" articles without any facts supporting it is immediately sent back to write with the common plebeians.

The first important decision is do we let Crion in

gently caress no

LARGE THE HEAD
Sep 1, 2009

"Competitive greatness is when you play your best against the best."

"Learn as if you were to live forever; live as if you were to die tomorrow."

--John Wooden

The broken bones posted:

He will probably outlast Bill Baer, Mike Petriello, Mark Simon, Cistulli, etc., because he literally doesn't give a poo poo about being wrong.

Dave Cameron might not be wrong, but his red blood cells sure are.

tinstaach
Aug 3, 2010

MAGNetic AttITUDE


Cameron had a rebuttal to Jim Caple's WAR article last week that basically amounted to "Well, WAR isn't the perfect statistic, but it's definitely the best one."

I think Jeff Sullivan and Dayn Perry are okay at Fangraphs, although they're less about analysis and more about kickin' rad GIFs and whatever NotGraphs is, respectively.

ThatsMyBoye
Nov 21, 2006

I wish that I believed in fate
I wish I didn't sleep so late
I used to be carried in the arms of cheerleaders

LARGE THE HEAD posted:

Dave Cameron might not be wrong, but his red blood cells sure are.

SHEESH

Nut Bunnies
May 24, 2005

Fun Shoe

The broken bones posted:

Camerons the new wave of Bill Plaschkes, where at some point he's going to stop listening to criticism and just publish whatever garbage he feels like because it gets page views and being relevant is more important than enlightening people.

He will probably outlast Bill Baer, Mike Petriello, Mark Simon, Cistulli, etc., because he literally doesn't give a poo poo about being wrong.

He does give a poo poo about being wrong, which is why he'll tell you he's actually right in the form of multiple blog posts.

FlamingLiberal
Jan 18, 2009

Would you like to play a game?



Buster Olney continues to wag his finger at the MLBPA for not 'doing enough' on drug testing. You know, after they just agreed to HGH blood testing like two weeks ago? I swear he's written about 5 of these articles since the Biogenesis drug list came out.

Most importantly, he seems to compare MLB players to children who won't admit to spilling milk on the floor. No, seriously.

http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/blog/_/name/olney_buster/id/8933326/baseball-complicated-ped-situation-mlb

(Insider Only)

Rousimar Pauladeen
Feb 27, 2007

I hate the mods I hate the mods I hate the mods! I HATE THE MODS I HATE THE MODS I HATE THE MODS! Hey wait a minute why do the mods hate me I'm contributing to the conversation I HATE THE MODS I HATE THE MODS I HA
Peter King thinks the Ravens should draft Manti Te'o in the first round to replace Ray Lewis.

MourningView
Sep 2, 2006


Is this Heaven?
Manti Te'o is a very good linebacker who would be an excellent value where the Ravens are picking, congrats on picking out one of the least dumb things Peter King has ever written.

Rousimar Pauladeen
Feb 27, 2007

I hate the mods I hate the mods I hate the mods! I HATE THE MODS I HATE THE MODS I HATE THE MODS! Hey wait a minute why do the mods hate me I'm contributing to the conversation I HATE THE MODS I HATE THE MODS I HA

MourningView posted:

Manti Te'o is a very good linebacker who would be an excellent value where the Ravens are picking, congrats on picking out one of the least dumb things Peter King has ever written.

That's why I posted it. I was so shocked.

ThatsMyBoye
Nov 21, 2006

I wish that I believed in fate
I wish I didn't sleep so late
I used to be carried in the arms of cheerleaders
Darren Rovell Takedown Alert

http://www.sportsonearth.com/article/41529820/

quote:

He thinks he is better than everyone else. You can see this when Rovell was famously duped by an 18-year-old kid into thinking he was an escort. (The whole story is here.) When Rovell had to apologize for his mistake -- something we've all had to do -- he couldn't resist a dig at the person who had decided to point out how shoddy Rovell's reporting was in the first place: "As a result I will do fewer stories on the real life impact of big events which I do think the public enjoys. There will always be people out there who want their 15 minutes of fame and not really care how they get there." From a hater: "Someone I know from a publication that will remain nameless said he's a total jitbag when he deigns to call and seek info for a tweet or story. As in, WHAT DO YOU MEAN I CAN'T TALK TO HIM/HER IMMEDIATELY? I. AM. DARREN. ROVELL!!!" (Anecdotally, I can confirm this: I've had several people whom Rovell has needed info from who have felt harassed and pushed around. Though, to be fair, "politeness" isn't necessarily the first word that should be associated with a journalist. Rovell's renowned rudeness when he needs information is something I'd prone to give him a pass for.)

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MourningView
Sep 2, 2006


Is this Heaven?
We as a society really need to just quit paying attention to Darren Rovell.

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