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terivinix
Feb 15, 2012
If Korea wants foreign employees who stay away from marijuana, they should stop insisting on university-educated foreigners.

By the way, I just checked the SMPA website, and it looks like they've finally deleted the Snitch Board where you could anonymously report foreigners who are drug dealers/users. It's a shame because there were some pretty funny stories on there.

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joedevola
Sep 11, 2004

worst song, played on ugliest guitar
North Korea confirms third nuclear test.

God-loving-drat it.

Cuatal
Apr 17, 2007

:dukedog:

So what's going down with this where you guys are at? Chinese people close to the North Korean border are claiming they felt a minute of vibrations from the blast, but I don't know if that's legit or not.

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?


It's possible, the test site is a whole lot closer to China than it is to SK. It's not like there are any nuclear effects, though with the insanity about Fukushima I'm surprised I haven't heard anything about NK's tests in that way. Probably because it's not Filthy Japanese Radiation.

As usual no one here seems to care too much. It was on the news and I'm sure the government is in a tizzy but among the people I know it's just NK did something crazy and dumb, yet again.

joedevola
Sep 11, 2004

worst song, played on ugliest guitar
My problem is mainly with the effect it'll have on the value of the won.

Teikanmi
Dec 16, 2006

by R. Guyovich
Honestly, if there was one country in need of actual, real liberation by the Axis of Good, it's probably that one.

Eifert Posting
Apr 1, 2007

Most of the time he catches it every time.
Grimey Drawer
Womp Womp.

BrainDance
May 8, 2007

Disco all night long!

Cameron you've lived here long enough to know better.
Either way some kids laughed about it in class. No one else cared and I'm sure it was e same for everyone else. The kids initially told me n Korea launched a missile at S Korea. Was a little confused then.


I just got a pair of contacts for 12,000₩. :)

THE LUMMOX
Nov 29, 2004

joedevola posted:

My problem is mainly with the effect it'll have on the value of the won.

gently caress the lives and homes of 50 million people I have a student loan to pay!

Teikanmi
Dec 16, 2006

by R. Guyovich
If everybody had a nuke this wouldn't have been an issue.

Aesis
Oct 9, 2012
Filthy J4G

Cameron posted:

If everybody had a nuke this wouldn't have been an issue.
Yes, because sooner or later someone will press the button and humanity will be extinct!

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?


BrainDance posted:

The kids initially told me n Korea launched a missile at S Korea. Was a little confused then.

Yeah, my friend told me NK had launched a nuclear strike. We had to have a brief discussion on the difference between strike and test.

joedevola
Sep 11, 2004

worst song, played on ugliest guitar
Actually, I just realized that since I'm on my way in to Korea, this works out pretty well for me.

Nuke your brains out, Junior!

Anyone else going to be at Incheon next Tuesday?

fantastic in plastic
Jun 15, 2007

The Socialist Workers Party's newspaper proved to be a tough sell to downtown businessmen.

joedevola posted:

Actually, I just realized that since I'm on my way in to Korea, this works out pretty well for me.

Nuke your brains out, Junior!

Anyone else going to be at Incheon next Tuesday?

I'm arriving on Tuesday also and bound for the Jeonju orientation.

cryptoclastic
Jul 3, 2003

The Jesus
In regards to the drug chat from last page, I actually failed my first renewal drug test. They showed me as having opiates in my system, which I did because of a cough syrup the hospital had prescribed me a week earlier. My co-teacher and the MOE was on my side, but I could tell the doctor thought I was full of poo poo, even though his hospital had put me on the syrup. Luckily I took it again in five days after stopping the syrup and passed, but that was a pretty stressful five days worrying about that loving test. My policy now is to basically completely avoid any medication for May and June.

plashy
Apr 13, 2012

cryptoclastic posted:

In regards to the drug chat from last page, I actually failed my first renewal drug test. They showed me as having opiates in my system, which I did because of a cough syrup the hospital had prescribed me a week earlier. My co-teacher and the MOE was on my side, but I could tell the doctor thought I was full of poo poo, even though his hospital had put me on the syrup. Luckily I took it again in five days after stopping the syrup and passed, but that was a pretty stressful five days worrying about that loving test. My policy now is to basically completely avoid any medication for May and June.

A friend got rang up for crystal meth because of a nose spray, stopped using it and passed again the next week. It seems not only medically that doctors can't tell the difference but they have no idea what the signs of meth use are or what kind of drug it is.

You know I thought I would go out for my usual Friday night but then I'm like, what the heck, I've never been iced up before, better try that.

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?


If I can be a downer and post job stuff, I have a couple questions.

I have a job that will likely take me. They're willing to start my contract in the middle of March so I can go on vacation first. So my questions are:

Is starting in mid-March a bad idea for the future of finding a new job? Considering hiring schedules and all.

When does severance/bonus get paid from public school? I'd need that immediately or couldn't afford to go anywhere anyway, so it'd be pointless.

DontAskKant
Aug 13, 2011

(USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THINKING ABOUT THIS POST)
What do you guys usually do for demo classes when given no guidance or materials? Do you plan for a computer or without? Straight phonics? Low level elementary grammar/vocab, writing or reading activity?

terivinix
Feb 15, 2012
LOL, I'm getting asked all these questions from someone at the Ministry of Health and Welfare. They're trying to find a way to brand Korean Oriental medicine for the more gullible medical tourists coming to Korea.

I was shown a list of seven, all of which were atrocious. One was "Ko-medical," which I'm encouraging them to pick because it best represents the effectiveness of KOM.

They're making a big deal out of finding a way to describe KOM as "scientific" which I'm advising them not to. It just seems like it would be false advertising, especially when in the same breath they mention yin and yang, chi, the five elements of the universe, and the six atmospheric influences.

Something that's gotta stop is contrasting KOM with "western medicine" -- call it what it is: evidence-based medicine. I don't think medicine has a geographic allegiance or a cultural identity, or that adding a nationality to it allows it to escape double-blind testing.

I was just asked what's the first thing I think of when I hear Korean Oriental medicine, and I replied "invisibility potion." It's in the Dongui Bogam; look it up.

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?


The western/eastern medicine names are such crap. There's medicine and there's psuedoscience wizard poo poo like Chinese Korean "medicine". Doesn't matter where it comes from.

terivinix
Feb 15, 2012

Grand Fromage posted:

The western/eastern medicine names are such crap. There's medicine and there's psuedoscience wizard poo poo like Chinese Korean "medicine". Doesn't matter where it comes from.

Well I do make an exception for traditional Canadian medicine, in which most ailments are treated with beer and bacon.

poly and open-minded
Nov 22, 2006

In BOD we trust

That's what socialized warfare is?! I am all for Obamacare now!

RocknRollaAyatollah
Nov 26, 2008

Lipstick Apathy
Just have a middle aged or older Korean person in a traditional costume on the advertisement and it should get most the Asian market. TCM is marketed this way in China and it seems to work.

The people who are into traditional medicine don't want science, they want poo poo endorsed by a wise person.

terivinix
Feb 15, 2012

Arctic Baldwin posted:

That's what socialized warfare is?! I am all for Obamacare now!

No, Canadian medicare only covers western medicine.


RocknRollaAyatollah posted:

Just have a middle aged or older Korean person in a traditional costume on the advertisement and it should get most the Asian market. TCM is marketed this way in China and it seems to work.

The people who are into traditional medicine don't want science, they want poo poo endorsed by a wise person.

And if there's anything that Korea can teach us, it's that old people are wise.

You're probably right, but I predict they'll go with young K-pop spokesmodels, just because.

joedevola
Sep 11, 2004

worst song, played on ugliest guitar
How about a cartoon featuring one of those creepily anthropomorphized ginseng roots they keep in jars? It could sing and dance and speak out of it's head stump.

Eifert Posting
Apr 1, 2007

Most of the time he catches it every time.
Grimey Drawer
T I can't believe I'm saying this but I prefer being an English monkey to whatever your job is. Seems like all you do is bang your head against a wall while people jam words in your mouth praising the absolute worst elements of living here.

Brimmy
Jan 13, 2006

"Never gonna give it up, Adrian."

Grand Fromage posted:

The western/eastern medicine names are such crap. There's medicine and there's psuedoscience wizard poo poo like Chinese Korean "medicine". Doesn't matter where it comes from.

To be fair when I hosed up my back at the Asian Gaelic Games and couldn't breathe, walk, sit up straight or cough even normally Western medicine did nothing for me and one visit to a Chinese Medicine clinic had me right as rain. That was acupuncture though as well to be fair.

Eifert Posting
Apr 1, 2007

Most of the time he catches it every time.
Grimey Drawer
Accupuncture does seem to be the exception to the rule, yeah.


(The rule being bloodletting, cupping, and endangered animal penis.)

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?


That's why I hate the distinction. There are a few things in ORIENTAL MEDICINE!! that work. There are also many bullshit wizard things popular in the west, like homeopathy. The line should be real/bullshit, not east/west.

Ojjeorago
Sep 21, 2008

I had a dream, too. It wasn't pleasant, though ... I dreamt I was a moron...
Gary’s Answer
That brown tea that tastes and smells like garbage is really really good for getting rid of a sore throat.

terivinix
Feb 15, 2012

Toussaint Louverture posted:

T I can't believe I'm saying this but I prefer being an English monkey to whatever your job is. Seems like all you do is bang your head against a wall while people jam words in your mouth praising the absolute worst elements of living here.

That's largely it, but I also write my own articles which find a way to jam things I consider worthwhile in and talk about them in ways that are acceptable to government propaganda.

Also, I kind of enjoy watching the government shoot itself in the foot, and I'm learning fucktons about government, nation branding, and Korean culture in general that will almost certainly help me in future careers.

Oh, and I never let the government jam words in my mouth. Well, there was one time Yonhap interviewed me and then they shoved a bunch of bullshit about Psy in the lede, but it wasn't quoting me so I just let it go.


Toussaint Louverture posted:

Accupuncture does seem to be the exception to the rule, yeah.


(The rule being bloodletting, cupping, and endangered animal penis.)

I have a friend who was going into anaphylactic shock in the middle of Gangnam during rush hour, and the only medical service they could get him to was an acupuncture clinic. Saved his life, though he's still not a believer.

Acupuncture is shown to do some good, but I don't think there are any good scientific models for how it works. Try to find a practitioner who can explain it without referencing chi. Evidence has been found supporting some of acupuncture, but a lot of its claims are just witchcraft.

terivinix fucked around with this message at 13:05 on Feb 13, 2013

BrainDance
May 8, 2007

Disco all night long!

Yeah, there are plenty of traditional medicines that work. I swear by ginger for nausea. But they work for the same reasons western stuff does (or doesn't) active ingredients or some sensible mechanism of action.

RocknRollaAyatollah posted:

Just have a middle aged or older Korean person in a traditional costume on the advertisement and it should get most the Asian market. TCM is marketed this way in China and it seems to work.

The people who are into traditional medicine don't want science, they want poo poo endorsed by a wise person.

I don't think Korea can do this the way China and Japan can. In America at least we have generations of mystical orient stereotypes with wise asian types dressed up like Chinese/Japanese people. Korea hasn't been able to push their traditional culture in that way.

When an American sees a Laotzi or Confucius figure the first thing to come to mind is "wise mystical Asian."

Same person sees a traditional Korean guy and its "guy in fruity Chinese clothes and a funny hat."

Just call Korean medicine "PSYence" and be done with it, not really any other way to go with it.

terivinix
Feb 15, 2012

BrainDance posted:

I don't think Korea can do this the way China and Japan can. In America at least we have generations of mystical orient stereotypes with wise asian types dressed up like Chinese/Japanese people. Korea hasn't been able to push their traditional culture in that way.

When an American sees a Laotzi or Confucius figure the first thing to come to mind is "wise mystical Asian."

Same person sees a traditional Korean guy and its "guy in fruity Chinese clothes and a funny hat."

I thought Ayatollah was referring to this kind of face of wisdom.



BrainDance posted:

Just call Korean medicine "PSYence" and be done with it, not really any other way to go with it.

I am seriously going to do that tomorrow.

AmbientParadox
Mar 2, 2005
I wish I had a government job :(

MA-Horus
Dec 3, 2006

I'm sorry, I can't hear you over the sound of how awesome I am.

[quote="terivinix" post="412493833"]
I thought Ayatollah was referring to this kind of face of wisdom.



I love this man. Dawn may be hard to choke down when hung over, but by Jesus it works.

BrainDance
May 8, 2007

Disco all night long!

Lately I've been getting into Morning Care for those "I probably should be in the hospital" mornings (it has milk thistle and I know how that works) but always with a dawn. It's the gold standard for hangover drinks in my opinion.

I looked into its ingredients on random blogs and poorly sourced wikipedia articles. Dawn has bark from some Chinese ash tree or something in it, which has a chemical that may do something to rat livers, maybe.

Whatever, good enough explanation for me. Dawn, morning care, some v8 and a hot6. Expensive but that's just how I live and it all works well.

But even just a dawn and a hot 6 will do if it's all I can get.

Edit: I actually like the taste, but I drink herbal teas that the kids say tastes like medicine and like that, too.

The Bible
May 8, 2010

So I know a few of you are somewhat active in the China thread, and I wanted to run something by you guys.

A friend of mine (this isn't one of those situations where I'm actually the friend, this really is a guy I know), is leaving Korea to take what basically is the perfect job in China. For the past 2 months, he has been singing the praises of this wonderful manager he met on the internet. The guy is apparently setting up some huge multinational school chain and he's looking for executive managers to get in on the ground floor, and apparently white BS holders teaching English in Asia fit the bill for this.

He keeps texting me pictures his new manager sent him of his 40th floor executive apartment overlooking Beijing that costs 100 bucks a month somehow and can't stop talking about how this manager is also looking for musicians for a school band as well (he is actually a pretty damned good musician) and just all sorts of poo poo that just sounds way too good to be true, and every time he calls me, the deal just got a little sweeter.

So I'm just curious, what are the odds he has actually found a manager starting a multinational school chain in China who is blind-hiring foreigners for executive level positions who don't speak Chinese, have any business experience, and don't have at least graduate degrees? Is it likely he found a good deal, or am I going to get a message in a month asking for a kidney? He's leaving in two weeks, and if I'm going to call bullshit here, I need to do it soon.

BrainDance
May 8, 2007

Disco all night long!

That sounds a lot like the spam offers everyone gets when they post their resume in hiteacher or worknplay.

Has he already sent the "visa processing fee" or whatever?

Arakan
May 10, 2008

After some persuasion, Fluttershy finally opens up, and Twilight's more than happy to oblige in doing her best performance as a nice, obedient wolf-puppy.
How much did they say they were going to pay him and what type of visa is he entering the country on? If it's not a Z visa they can gently caress him however they want to.

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The Bible
May 8, 2010

He sent the fee, and I believe he already has a visa in hand. I could be wrong about that though, I'll ask next time we speak. Not sure what type of visa it is.

He trusts the guy so much because he has talked to him on the phone fairly often, and is convinced a scammer wouldn't go to that kind of effort. The guy is also on facebook apparently, so that seals the deal, I guess.

My friend isn't an idiot, but he is very naive and believes that most people are trustworthy and kind, and while there are people that will gently caress you over, they are few and far between.

Edit: Found this video on his facebook page. This is the manager guy.

http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XNDEzNDcyMDky.html?f=17290813

Looking through the rest of the info, I don't know how he is buying any of this. I found some blog or something, but nothing definitively linking this guy to upper management of a school. There is this,

http://www.greenhilledu.org/

But that's hardly proof of anything other than the ability to set up a webpage. Looks like just another language school, though.

The Bible fucked around with this message at 15:06 on Feb 13, 2013

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