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Lien
Oct 17, 2006
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Seems I missed most of the Koh Tao talk, but I'm looking at heading out there in June. Do prices for rooms go down at all (I'm hoping to find something in the 500-1000baht range that doesn't involve me sleeping in a dorm)? And I assume the diving won't be quite as good then, but is it still decent?

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eviljelly
Aug 29, 2004

Diving is fine all year except November. 500-1000 should get you at least a comfortable fan room in a guesthouse or even a lovely air con room, or an okay beachside (not beach facing) bungalow.

Lien
Oct 17, 2006
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Fantastic, thanks for the info!

Crivens
Oct 25, 2003

I HAVENT BEEN ON ALT.TOLKIEN.IS.A.FAG FOR A LONG TIME, IVE BEEN BUSY BEATING OFF TO CRACKWHORE PORN
Does anyone have a recommendation for a decent hostel in BKK that's not on KSR, has a common room and is a generally all-round good place to keep my head down for a few days while I sort out a Burma visa?

Rapsey
Sep 29, 2005
lub d
http://siamsquare.lubd.com/
http://silom.lubd.com/

It's like the nicest hostel I've ever seen.

Ringo R
Dec 25, 2005

ช่วยแม่เฮ็ดนาแหน่เดัอ
Will ReindeerF make it back home? He is riding his bike drunk.

ReindeerF
Apr 20, 2002

Rubber Dinghy Rapids Bro
I made it to the Rama V Bridge. The rest is uncertain.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/69dd55k1bx9e2ly/Photo%20Feb%2021%2C%200%2024%2050.jpg

ReindeerF fucked around with this message at 20:10 on Feb 20, 2013

Crivens
Oct 25, 2003

I HAVENT BEEN ON ALT.TOLKIEN.IS.A.FAG FOR A LONG TIME, IVE BEEN BUSY BEATING OFF TO CRACKWHORE PORN

Rapsey posted:

lub d
http://siamsquare.lubd.com/
http://silom.lubd.com/

It's like the nicest hostel I've ever seen.

Thank you.

I know the general rules for SEA, but is Burma any different? In terms of anti-malaria and general health etc (malarone gives me nausea, so I wasn't going to bother with anything). Is my 2011 lonely planet out of date or do I still need to bring in all the crisp $$s that I'll need for the whole time? How much will I need for about two weeks?

I'm leaving in a bit of a rush, so anything I might have forgotten would be appreciated.

Cheesemaster200
Feb 11, 2004

Guard of the Citadel

Crivens posted:

Thank you.

I know the general rules for SEA, but is Burma any different? In terms of anti-malaria and general health etc (malarone gives me nausea, so I wasn't going to bother with anything). Is my 2011 lonely planet out of date or do I still need to bring in all the crisp $$s that I'll need for the whole time? How much will I need for about two weeks?

I'm leaving in a bit of a rush, so anything I might have forgotten would be appreciated.

The country has finally let their currency officially float and there are a *few* ATMs in Rangoon I believe. Keep in mind that a "few" may mean 1-2 in the airport. However, I am sure this is changing fast so there may be more. Bringing crisp bills will surely make your life easier.

pastorrich
Jun 7, 2008

Keep on truckin' like a novacane hurricane
So I'm juggling ideas a lot right now and I need you guy's opinion on what is or isn't do-able. I have absolutely no reference so bear with me.

I'm looking at June-August, I got a US$8k budget for three months of traveling through SEA. I want to do Thailand and Myanmar absolutely. I would really like to do Viet-Nam also. I'm from Montreal so I would be leaving from and coming back here.

I'm going there to do a tour of Buddhist locations (temples and shrines), trekking, beaches and meeting cool new people to do these things with. I'm not into getting drunk or sex tourism, but I enjoy a good party (full-moon sounds awesome).

I don't mind a dormitory type room but if I get a private room for cheap I'd take that for sure. So here's my question: As a very rough estimate, can I do 3 months in these countries with 8k or is it way too low/plenty? If it's too low, ballpark, how much money would I need for 3 months? Finally, are there things to see or do in Myanmar for a full month? Any reply is much appreciated! :v:

Edit: (I want to do the most I can do in each country, not stay at the same location for the whole month.)

pastorrich fucked around with this message at 05:48 on Feb 21, 2013

Casual Yogurt
Jul 1, 2005

Cool tricks kid, I like your style.

pastorrich posted:

So I'm juggling ideas a lot right now and I need you guy's opinion on what is or isn't do-able. I have absolutely no reference so bear with me.

I'm looking at June-August, I got a US$8k budget for three months of traveling through SEA. I want to do Thailand and Myanmar absolutely. I would really like to do Viet-Nam also. I'm from Montreal so I would be leaving from and coming back here.

I'm going there to do a tour of Buddhist locations (temples and shrines), trekking, beaches and meeting cool new people to do these things with. I'm not into getting drunk or sex tourism, but I enjoy a good party (full-moon sounds awesome).

I don't mind a dormitory type room but if I get a private room for cheap I'd take that for sure. So here's my question: As a very rough estimate, can I do 3 months in these countries with 8k or is it way too low/plenty? If it's too low, ballpark, how much money would I need for 3 months? Finally, are there things to see or do in Myanmar for a full month? Any reply is much appreciated! :v:

Edit: (I want to do the most I can do in each country, not stay at the same location for the whole month.)

I did 3.5 months overland from St Petersburg to Singapore via Japan this past summer and spent about 4k US. I didn't go to Myanmar though. I roughed it pretty hard(urban camping in Japan, cheapest hostels) but SE Asia is super cheap and you will have a great time if you spend all your money.

kenner116
May 15, 2009
I was spending about 600 USD per month in SE Asia (including visas). Only place that was pricey was Singapore where I spent about 45 per day.

Myanmar visa is for 28 days and I stayed for 27. There is a ton to see there so don't worry about having too much time. I did Yangon (w/ Twante day drip), Inle Lake, slow train to Thazi, Mandalay, Pyin Oo Lwin, slow train to Hsipaw, Mandalay, Bagan, Yangon. Check out Wikitravel/Wikivoyage and find other interesting places.

Tytan
Sep 17, 2011

u wot m8?
$8k is plenty for 3 months. Most hostels/guesthouses have private rooms available and they are still ridiculously cheap (although I'm not sure about Myanmar). Even if you're travelling around a lot the buses are not expensive, so you won't be spending much.

ReindeerF
Apr 20, 2002

Rubber Dinghy Rapids Bro
Yeah, with $8K, even after airfare, you should be able to last easily five or six months unless you fly a lot. Keep in mind our golden travel advice if expenses are a concern: the less you move around the less you spend. That's not to suggest that you shouldn't move around, just figure it in to your calculations. Every time you move, you have to pay for a bus, train, plane or other mode of transport, then get a new guesthouse or hotel and figure out transport options in the new locale. As well, you lose your ability to negotiate long-term stay discounts, which can save you a lot on accommodations (always ask for a discount if you're staying more than three days, I think that's a fair rule outside of high season/full moon party-type times).

Of course staying in one place means not seeing other places, so it's a trade off and I'm not implying that you should stay in one place. I happen to like to do that, but I enjoy finding some random town and just sitting around figuring it out and exploring it.

lol internet.
Sep 4, 2007
the internet makes you stupid
Does anyone know if US customs check people's checked in luggage when they are flying out of US?

Senso
Nov 4, 2005

Always working

pastorrich posted:

I would really like to do Viet-Nam also. I'm from Montreal so I would be leaving from and coming back here.

I'm from Montreal and have been living in Saigon for almost two years, I'd have no problems showing you around if you ever come around here. :)

raton
Jul 28, 2003

by FactsAreUseless

lol internet. posted:

Does anyone know if US customs check people's checked in luggage when they are flying out of US?

What kind of dumb rear end question is that of course they do.

Rapsey
Sep 29, 2005

lol internet. posted:

Does anyone know if US customs check people's checked in luggage when they are flying out of US?
What are you planning on bringing that would be a problem? If you're thinking drugs, it is a horrible horrible idea.

big boi
Jun 11, 2007

Hey guys. I've got some questions about visas.

My passport is running out of pages. I've got two full ones left, and I'm traveling to Cambodia and Vietnam.

1) This is my second time in Cambodia (last time was in January). Are they going to slap a whole new visa in there and take up another page, or will they use the original one somehow?

2) If I'm traveling overland from Cambodia, what kind of damage will the Thai border people do to my precious visa pages? I hear there's no visa required up to 15 days, which would be perfect. Is it just a stamp?

Senso
Nov 4, 2005

Always working
Why do city expats pay for sexual services?

imnotinsane
Jul 19, 2006

big boi posted:

Hey guys. I've got some questions about visas.

My passport is running out of pages. I've got two full ones left, and I'm traveling to Cambodia and Vietnam.

1) This is my second time in Cambodia (last time was in January). Are they going to slap a whole new visa in there and take up another page, or will they use the original one somehow?

2) If I'm traveling overland from Cambodia, what kind of damage will the Thai border people do to my precious visa pages? I hear there's no visa required up to 15 days, which would be perfect. Is it just a stamp?

You may run into some problems because yes you will get a new visa sticker and they will take up a whole page. I have heard some people getting knocked back for not having enough pages. Are you from the US? It might be in your best interest to pay for more pages.

The Thai border will just stamp your passport.

Edit: Yes its just a small stamp like the usual ones you get.

imnotinsane fucked around with this message at 08:41 on Feb 21, 2013

lol internet.
Sep 4, 2007
the internet makes you stupid

Sheep-Goats posted:

What kind of dumb rear end question is that of course they do.
I don't fly internationally out of the US that much so I wouldn't know. Do they screen all international outbound mail that leaves the US? I'd imagine not. I wouldn't think that's a dumb question as you don't see what goes on behind the scenes.


Rapsey posted:

What are you planning on bringing that would be a problem? If you're thinking drugs, it is a horrible horrible idea.
Not everyone heading into SEA with random TSA screening questions is a junkie. Didn't want to mention what the item was but since you asked was planning on bringing some (like 80) music CDRs for my relatives.

If I was flying out of Canada.. I probably wouldn't care but in general the US has gone rear end-backwards on their policies in the last decade.. was asking to be safe then sorry.

lol internet. fucked around with this message at 08:40 on Feb 21, 2013

big boi
Jun 11, 2007

imnotinsane posted:

You may run into some problems because yes you will get a new visa sticker and they will take up a whole page. I have heard some people getting knocked back for not having enough pages. Are you from the US? It might be in your best interest to pay for more pages.

The Thai border will just stamp your passport.

Ok, so with the Thai border it's just a run-of-the-mill stamp, not a full-page affair, right? I should be ok, actually.

Edit: found an image. Not going to be a problem for me, thankfully. Thanks.

big boi fucked around with this message at 08:47 on Feb 21, 2013

raton
Jul 28, 2003

by FactsAreUseless

lol internet. posted:

I don't fly internationally out of the US that much so I wouldn't know. Do they screen all international outbound mail that leaves the US? I'd imagine not. I wouldn't think that's a dumb question as you don't see what goes on behind the scenes.

Not everyone heading into SEA with random TSA screening questions is a junkie. Didn't want to mention what the item was but since you asked was planning on bringing some (like 80) music CDRs for my relatives.

If I was flying out of Canada.. I probably wouldn't care but in general the US has gone rear end-backwards on their policies in the last decade.. was asking to be safe then sorry.

They screen suspicious outgoing mail plus probably some random ones. Leave your drugs at home.

lol internet.
Sep 4, 2007
the internet makes you stupid

Sheep-Goats posted:

They screen suspicious outgoing mail plus probably some random ones. Leave your drugs at home.

It's not drugs. I don't even do drugs lol. I said they were CDRs. I was using that as an analogy. You can't expect some fat guy sitting there scanning every single piece of luggage that goes on a plane that is destined to leave the US.

CronoGamer
May 15, 2004

why did this happen

lol internet. posted:

I don't fly internationally out of the US that much so I wouldn't know. Do they screen all international outbound mail that leaves the US? I'd imagine not. I wouldn't think that's a dumb question as you don't see what goes on behind the scenes.

Not everyone heading into SEA with random TSA screening questions is a junkie. Didn't want to mention what the item was but since you asked was planning on bringing some (like 80) music CDRs for my relatives.

If I was flying out of Canada.. I probably wouldn't care but in general the US has gone rear end-backwards on their policies in the last decade.. was asking to be safe then sorry.

Put them in one of those big CD wallets that used to be everywhere in the 90s. Even a simple discreet one will carry 100 CDs and only set you back like $15 at the most, and really won't take up a lot of room. That should be fine.

duralict
Sep 18, 2007

this isn't hug club at all

big boi posted:

Ok, so with the Thai border it's just a run-of-the-mill stamp, not a full-page affair, right? I should be ok, actually.

Edit: found an image. Not going to be a problem for me, thankfully. Thanks.

If you've got some time left on your passport, it only takes about an hour to get them to add more pages at the US Embassy in Bangkok, rather than the several weeks it takes back in the US. Worth considering.

Senso
Nov 4, 2005

Always working

duralict posted:

If you've got some time left on your passport, it only takes about an hour to get them to add more pages at the US Embassy in Bangkok, rather than the several weeks it takes back in the US. Worth considering.

Oooh I hope the Canadian embassy can do that too. I have 3 pages left and they go out pretty fast, I'll ask them if they can add more pages.

pastorrich
Jun 7, 2008

Keep on truckin' like a novacane hurricane

Senso posted:

I'm from Montreal and have been living in Saigon for almost two years, I'd have no problems showing you around if you ever come around here. :)

I will definitely keep that in mind! Actually, I will put you on my friend list for future reference. Always nice to find a good old montrealer in the world. Thanks to everyone for the kind answers, I'm pretty excited to do this!

ReindeerF
Apr 20, 2002

Rubber Dinghy Rapids Bro

big boi posted:

1) This is my second time in Cambodia (last time was in January). Are they going to slap a whole new visa in there and take up another page, or will they use the original one somehow?
GET AN E-VISA. TINY STAMP, NO FULL-PAGE VISA. I use all caps only because the e-visa has been mentioned in this thread about a million times. Here:

http://www.mfaic.gov.kh/evisa/

Also because, "E-Visa Make Your Trip Happen To The Kingdom Of Wonder!!"

duralict posted:

If you've got some time left on your passport, it only takes about an hour to get them to add more pages at the US Embassy in Bangkok, rather than the several weeks it takes back in the US. Worth considering.
And it costs $90 now - make sure to request the 48 page addition, not the smaller one (I think it's 48. You have two options, choose the larger one and you'll have a Gideon Bible like I do.).

duralict
Sep 18, 2007

this isn't hug club at all
Yeah, I remember when my passport didn't conspicuously stick out in my pocket. Now it's thicker than my cell phone.

The other sad thing is, I had one of the classy old-style ones with the state seals, and the new pages have the tackiest bullshit printed on them. :911:

pastorrich
Jun 7, 2008

Keep on truckin' like a novacane hurricane
Is it safe to bring a tablet (nexus 7) or laptop to SEA? It would be great to have many books on a 7" tablet for long bus rides. Any general tips on how not to get robbed/murdered for it?

Rojkir
Jun 26, 2007

WARNING:I AM A FASCIST PIECE OF SHIT.
Police beatings get me hard
Don't bring it man, it's like the wild wild east over there, they rob/murder you as soon as you exit the airport.

raton
Jul 28, 2003

by FactsAreUseless
It's fine no one cares. Unless it's an Apple whatever. Then it'll probably get stolen.

They don't really do violent crime in SE Asia. They might filch it out of your bag when you're asleep or drunk off your tits on the beach, but no one is going to bust you over the head or knife you for it. I'd suggest just putting it away before you get out of the bus and keeping it put away when you're in the bus station. The latter mostly because the bus stations are kinda cool in SE Asia, so you shouldn't be reading some book while you're at one.

I've got a Kindle now. I'd unhesitatingly bring it along wherever. It's the ads free 3g one too but even then it's only like 200 bucks and if they want to steal it OH WELL guess I get a brand new one when I go home with better features and poo poo.

pastorrich
Jun 7, 2008

Keep on truckin' like a novacane hurricane

Rojkir posted:

Don't bring it man, it's like the wild wild east over there, they rob/murder you as soon as you exit the airport.

Dude I've heard stories alright I'VE HEARD STORIES!!!

Sheep-Goats posted:

It's fine no one cares. Unless it's an Apple whatever. Then it'll probably get stolen.

They don't really do violent crime in SE Asia. They might filch it out of your bag when you're asleep or drunk off your tits on the beach, but no one is going to bust you over the head or knife you for it. I'd suggest just putting it away before you get out of the bus and keeping it put away when you're in the bus station. The latter mostly because the bus stations are kinda cool in SE Asia, so you shouldn't be reading some book while you're at one.

I've got a Kindle now. I'd unhesitatingly bring it along wherever. It's the ads free 3g one too but even then it's only like 200 bucks and if they want to steal it OH WELL guess I get a brand new one when I go home with better features and poo poo.

That's a very good way to look at it. If it gets stolen I'll get a similar one in china for a ridiculous price.

Crivens
Oct 25, 2003

I HAVENT BEEN ON ALT.TOLKIEN.IS.A.FAG FOR A LONG TIME, IVE BEEN BUSY BEATING OFF TO CRACKWHORE PORN

pastorrich posted:

Dude I've heard stories alright I'VE HEARD STORIES!!!


That's a very good way to look at it. If it gets stolen I'll get a similar one in china for a ridiculous price.

Yeah you'll run into a lot of cheap backpackers with tablets and netbooks. It's useful to be able to book your next stop online.

I'd be more worried about someone else in the hostel taking it than I would be getting mugged for it.

imnotinsane
Jul 19, 2006
Worst I have had happen in the last 6 months was someone taking $20 from my wallet when I got a massage. Still bitter about it because it was so obvious after it had happened. I even thought about it just before it happened but didn't trust my gut feeling. At least he left me $10 to pay for my massage. If anything it validates my belief that not carrying a lot of cash is a good thing,

Skandiaavity
Apr 20, 2005
Rain! yay?

caberham
Mar 18, 2009

by Smythe
Grimey Drawer

Sheep-Goats posted:

It's fine no one cares. Unless it's an Apple whatever. Then it'll probably get stolen.

They don't really do violent crime in SE Asia. They might filch it out of your bag when you're asleep or drunk off your tits on the beach, but no one is going to bust you over the head or knife you for it. I'd suggest just putting it away before you get out of the bus and keeping it put away when you're in the bus station. The latter mostly because the bus stations are kinda cool in SE Asia, so you shouldn't be reading some book while you're at one.

I've got a Kindle now. I'd unhesitatingly bring it along wherever. It's the ads free 3g one too but even then it's only like 200 bucks and if they want to steal it OH WELL guess I get a brand new one when I go home with better features and poo poo.

This thread is an amazing source of info, but I swear to god ReindeerF I can't believe how patient you are. We need to have a "wall of paranoid tourist goons" in the OP. If someone can make a silly photoshop avatar of "sheltered farang" I will definitely change the next person's avatar when they ask this question. I'm just bitter that I lost my cell phone in a cab and couldn't do Bangkok goon meet because I was over relying on technology instead of the old fashion "set a meet up point and time" :suicide:

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ReindeerF
Apr 20, 2002

Rubber Dinghy Rapids Bro

Crivens posted:

I'd be more worried about someone else in the hostel taking it than I would be getting mugged for it.
Yeah, this. Some of us even live here with all kinds of expensive electronics and magically never have anything stolen! Also, feel free to drink/eat the ice.

caberham posted:

This thread is an amazing source of info, but I swear to god ReindeerF I can't believe how patient you are. We need to have a "wall of paranoid tourist goons" in the OP. If someone can make a silly photoshop avatar of "sheltered farang" I will definitely change the next person's avatar when they ask this question. I'm just bitter that I lost my cell phone in a cab and couldn't do Bangkok goon meet because I was over relying on technology instead of the old fashion "set a meet up point and time" :suicide:
I dunno. I started the original thread and participate here, probably like S-G and Ringo and Modus and a lot of others because I made it here thanks to some goon telling me about this place and I wanted to tell others. The character of this thread is totally different than the character of the other Asian threads. They're all (mostly teachers) living there and constantly talking about daily life stuff, with the threads largely populated by the same posters over and over. Here, we can't even get an expat discussion going hardly ever, but it's a constant stream of newcomers with the same questions. It's like having kids, I guess. You get to re-live everything. In that regard I don't mind - I wish I hadn't ALL CAPS'd the guy earlier, in fact. The paranoiacs are quite fun, actually, heh, because you can make fun of them lightly and it's okay!

ReindeerF fucked around with this message at 04:09 on Feb 22, 2013

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