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The Entire Universe posted:
I'm 37 and I remember that movie but the post you replied to said "GOP all-stars" so I was really confused and thought you were saying that Woody Harrelson was a GOP all-star. Sorry for taking everything so literally. 
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I know you're probably too young to get the reference, but if you just Google where Woody Harrelson and Basketball coincide, you find that X marks the spot at the movie White Men Can't Jump.
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Crasscrab posted:Goofballs over at Fox News get their undies in a bunch over a new wrestler that is a Tea Party stereotype. Its even better when you remember in 2005 they had a guy whose gimmick was that he was an American of Muslim heritage who felt alienated in his own country because he practiced a different religion. He was a bad guy.
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Kiwi Bigtree posted:Its even better when you remember in 2005 they had a guy whose gimmick was that he was an American of Muslim heritage who felt alienated in his own country because he practiced a different religion. Was that the guy whose finishing move was literally called the Magic Carpet Ride or was that another guy?
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Feb 20, 2013 17:26
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Not to mention La Resistance, created after France spoke out against the Iraq War, which also was the subject of an infamous debate between "Harvard" Chris Nowinski and Scott Steiner wherein the latter said "Throughout my career wrestled a lot of countries". Not to mention the various other "foreign bad guys" in the WWE's history. If the man behind those approved something like this, then you know that the Tea Party's in trouble.
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Feb 20, 2013 17:29
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Have you guys forgotten the Iron Sheik? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gsUyMMyL_z4
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Feb 20, 2013 17:31
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Ho Chi Mint posted:Have you guys forgotten the Iron Sheik? Of course not but he and the other foreign racist caricatures of the time were somewhat different due to historical context. Nikolai Volkof is a much better example from that era because the Cold War was still going on and he was Russian. It was only after the first American invasion of Iraq in '91 that the Iron Sheik became way more relevant again.
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Feb 20, 2013 17:40
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Spark That Bled posted:If the man behind those approved something like this, then you know that the Tea Party's in trouble. Actually, the whole reason behind the Tea Party guy is the fact their current World Heavyweight Champ is a Mexican wrestler who is hugely over with the Latino audience. The only reason the Mexican guy is even a good guy in the first place was because he got so popular. For years he was a villain for no reason more complicated than "Mexican." Literally six months ago he was facing a white guy named "The Great White" who made fun of his Mexican accent and cut a long promo about how he ate Mexican food and it made him poop everywhere because Mexican food is terrible. This guy was the good guy in the battle. Mel Mudkiper fucked around with this message at 17:43 on Feb 20, 2013 |
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Feb 20, 2013 17:41
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greatn posted:The Rock is Mexican? The WWE has two World Champions WWE World Champion: The Rock World Heavyweight Champion: Alberto Del Rio Its confusing.
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Feb 20, 2013 17:48
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Sad thing is, Iron Sheik is actually Iranian, not Arab. But he chooses to fulfill that stereotype as it seems to be making him $$ and supporting his still persistent cocaine habit. What's lovely for us Iranians is that he further stamps in that ignorance for many people to keep thinking Iranians are Arabs because though he dresses like an Arab, he always screams he's Iranian.
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Feb 20, 2013 17:57
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towelieban posted:Sad thing is, Iron Sheik is actually Iranian, not Arab. But he chooses to fulfill that stereotype as it seems to be making him $$ and supporting his still persistent cocaine habit. When the presidential campaign turned on the subject of Iran, I was floored by the amount of people who had no idea that Iranians a.) aren't Arab and b.) don't speak Arabic. Literally Iran 101. I honestly wonder how many high ranking Republicans don't know that either.
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Feb 20, 2013 18:15
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Acrophyte posted:When the presidential campaign turned on the subject of Iran, I was floored by the amount of people who had no idea that Iranians a.) aren't Arab and b.) don't speak Arabic. Literally Iran 101. I honestly wonder how many high ranking Republicans don't know that either. "They have a different skin color, speak a different language, and have a different religion than us" is all they think they need to know.
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Feb 20, 2013 18:20
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Kiwi Bigtree posted:Actually, the whole reason behind the Tea Party guy is the fact their current World Heavyweight Champ is a Mexican wrestler who is hugely over with the Latino audience. The only reason the Mexican guy is even a good guy in the first place was because he got so popular. For years he was a villain for no reason more complicated than "Mexican." To be fair, Del Rio is a Mexican aristocrat who drives different ultra expensive cars to the ring every time and had a pseudo Million Dollar Man thing going on. Which sadly is a change for the treatment of Latinos in wrestling which is normally defaulted to cholo gangster who wears flannels and says Ese a lot.
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Acrophyte posted:When the presidential campaign turned on the subject of Iran, I was floored by the amount of people who had no idea that Iranians a.) aren't Arab and b.) don't speak Arabic. Literally Iran 101. I honestly wonder how many high ranking Republicans don't know that either. It's Bill Maher... but yeah. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XTSCRoYyM-Y
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A Winner is Jew posted:It's Bill Maher... but yeah. That's from the same movie where he just got up and walked away from the anti-zionist rabbi because he disagreed with him, right?
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Feb 20, 2013 18:36
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The Daily Show did this special around the time of the 09 iranian elections asking Americans about Iran, and vice versa. Surprising at the amount, or lack there of, about even basic information on Iran. The guy at the end who actually go it was Iranian-American. http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/tue-june-23-2009/jason-jones--behind-the-veil---ayatollah-you-so
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towelieban posted:The Daily Show did this special around the time of the 09 iranian elections asking Americans about Iran, and vice versa. Surprising at the amount, or lack there of, about even basic information on Iran. The guy at the end who actually go it was Iranian-American. Oh my god, I've been trying to find this sketch for a few months now, thank you. quote:"How the gently caress have you heard of Utica?"  When I was in high school, our civics teacher overheard some of my classmates making fun of the foreign students we had. The next day he came in with questions from the US citizenship exam, and I'll never forget hearing murmurs of "gently caress!" and "who"? when he asked us who the speaker of the house was, etc. As you can expect, most of those same student's scores were abysmal.  I would love to go down to AL or MS and see how "proud Americans" score on it.
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Feb 20, 2013 18:59
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That and when that guy went from answering who was the current president to naming all of them in reverse order up to Kennedy LOL. I doubt even 1% of americans could do that.
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Feb 20, 2013 19:02
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Crasscrab posted:Goofballs over at Fox News get their undies in a bunch over a new wrestler that is a Tea Party stereotype. I don't understand, are they upset because a white racist is being portrayed as a villain? Or because they think this character is an unfair depiction of the tea party? I watched a few videos of "Jack Swagger" the racist wrestler and his coach "Zeb Coulter", and if anything, the poo poo they were saying was more tame than what you hear on fox news and talk radio every day. These are the people who refused to admit Obama was born in the US, and embraced Romney's 47% comments. But a faux racist wrestler implying that his mexican opponent is not a "real american" who came here leech off the government, is somehow offensive and out of bounds?
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Feb 20, 2013 19:08
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BlackJoo posted:I don't understand, are they upset because a white racist is being portrayed as a villain? Or because they think this character is an unfair depiction of the tea party? I watched a few videos of "Jack Swagger" the racist wrestler and his coach "Zeb Coulter", and if anything, the poo poo they were saying was more tame than what you hear on fox news and talk radio every day. Society has successfully impressed on people that being racist is bad, ergo being called racist is bad. But society has also impressed on people that you have to use racial slurs to be racist. So in these people's minds, they're being called the worst thing ever for no reason at all because b-b-but I didn't call him the no-no word, I can't possibly be racist.
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Feb 20, 2013 19:15
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Minorities posted:Was that the guy whose finishing move was literally called the Magic Carpet Ride or was that another guy? I believe you're thinking of The Great Khali, a loving gargantuan Indian wrestler. e: nope, I'm wrong.
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Feb 20, 2013 19:24
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It was probably his lacky Davari that had magic carpet ride.
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BlackJoo posted:I don't understand, are they upset because a white racist is being portrayed as a villain? Or because they think this character is an unfair depiction of the tea party? Yes to both. Jack Swagger's gimmick hits the nail pretty much on the head and exposes the Tea Party for what it really is (at least as much as you can do so in a popular TV-13 rated show). This of course drives actual Tea Partiers insane because the dogwhistle has now been turned into a regular whistle that they can't silence. The American Dream posted:It was probably his lacky Davari that had magic carpet ride. Thank you! I could not remember his name for the life of me. Elephant Ambush fucked around with this message at 19:36 on Feb 20, 2013 |
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Minorities posted:Yes to both. Jack Swagger's gimmick hits the nail pretty much on the head and exposes the Tea Party for what it really is (at least as much as you can do so in a popular TV-13 rated show). This of course drives actual Tea Partiers insane because the dogwhistle has now been turned into a regular whistle that they can't silence.
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Goatman Sacks posted:I believe you're thinking of The Great Khali, a loving gargantuan Indian wrestler. He is thinking of Davari who I believe is Iranian( from New Jersey) he was the mouthpiece and partner of the other wrestler you're thinking of Muhammad Hassan. The funny think was their gimmick was actually pretty well written before wwe went super cartoony and actually made them terrorists. But the day they came out as a terrorist gimmick and attacked undertaker with a group of guys wearing camo and ski masks the London bombing happened literally the same day that aired.
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Feb 20, 2013 19:39
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Guilty Spork posted:I saw Zeb Coulter's rant on the last PPV, and if you slotted those exact words into any given conservative talk radio show no one would even bat an eye. If anything there'd be callers saying he's being too soft. The point I was trying to make is that conservative talk radio is insular. There are some liberal and progressive watchdog groups that try to expose the horrible poo poo they say to the mainstream but it doesn't catch on much. The WWE certainly has its share of conservative and even racist fans, but the WWE is not under the umbrella of conservative talk radio control and caters to a different audience that's more mainstream. Tea Partiers get incredibly upset whenever their horse poo poo gets exposed to an audience can't dupe/trick/manipulate easily. Look at the mass exodus away from facebook to TPC as another example.
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Minorities posted:Yes to both. Jack Swagger's gimmick hits the nail pretty much on the head and exposes the Tea Party for what it really is (at least as much as you can do so in a popular TV-13 rated show). This of course drives actual Tea Partiers insane because the dogwhistle has now been turned into a regular whistle that they can't silence. What the Tea Party thinks of themselves - Lex Luger: The Man Made in the U.S.A.  What even Vince McMahon realizes - Jack Swagger  Probably just trying to attract smart people back, just to see what the fuss is all about.
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Feb 20, 2013 19:56
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Minorities posted:"They have a different skin color, speak a different language, and have a different religion than us" is all they think they need to know. There's a massive amount of confusion given the amount of Arabic cultural rules and customs that got sucked into Islam (understandable given the religion and the region's history) which has made it a convoluted mess for most people. It's also worth keeping in mind that while ethnic Iranians are Persians, there are a lot of Arabs in Iran as well. Though it's kinda funny how Muslims went from being part of "the good guys" when we were fighting the "godless commies" to the worst people since... the godless commies once the USSR imploded.
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Ho Chi Mint posted:Have you guys forgotten the Iron Sheik? Iran hate was pretty open in 80s America 
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Feb 20, 2013 20:00
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az jan jananam posted:Iran hate was pretty open in 80s America Man I can't think why. Maybe something to do with that hostage crisis.
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Mister Macys posted:What the Tea Party thinks of themselves - Lex Luger: The Man Made in the U.S.A. Pro wrestling in general has always been topical. Sometimes certain topical gimmicks get over better than others.
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Feb 20, 2013 20:08
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Lord Lambeth posted:Man I can't think why. Maybe something to do with that hostage crisis. I'm pretty sure the feeling was mutual around then. That entire affair was a pretty sorry part of history.
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You guys remember when one of the big criticisms of Chuck Hagel was that he got paid to speak to "Friends of Hamas," a group that is totally real and not made up? Well the guy that started that rumor has spoken up, and it is about as silly as you would expect. This is seriously all it takes to get a right-wing talking point going.
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Feb 20, 2013 20:15
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az jan jananam posted:Iran hate was pretty open in 80s America We have to keep Iran from producing a nuclear whoopie cushion or Gotham City is doomed.
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Roxors posted:You guys remember when one of the big criticisms of Chuck Hagel was that he got paid to speak to "Friends of Hamas," a group that is totally real and not made up? Well the guy that started that rumor has spoken up, and it is about as silly as you would expect. http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2013/02/mcconnell-duffel-blog/ This is another gem of late.
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Crasscrab posted:Goofballs over at Fox News get their undies in a bunch over a new wrestler that is a Tea Party stereotype. "The WWE is playing the race card" That's it. This is the moment where I've finally realized there is nothing the right wing media won't say.
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Unzip and Attack posted:"The WWE is playing the race card" Things that were not the race card   
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The_Rob posted:He is thinking of Davari who I believe is Iranian( from New Jersey) he was the mouthpiece and partner of the other wrestler you're thinking of Muhammad Hassan. The funny think was their gimmick was actually pretty well written before wwe went super cartoony and actually made them terrorists. But the day they came out as a terrorist gimmick and attacked undertaker with a group of guys wearing camo and ski masks the London bombing happened literally the same day that aired. Hassan is also Italian. I worked with a guy that graduated with him. The timeline of the wrestling martyrdom/london bombings are: Tuesday: Davari get carried out of the ring by 6 masked insurgents after being sacrificed to the undertaker during the taping of smack down Wednesday: London bombings occur Thursday: wwe airs the segment anyways. poo poo rains down so at the ppv in a couple weeks undertaker buries Hassan in their match and his wrestling career is dead
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WoodrowSkillson posted:To be fair, Del Rio is a Mexican aristocrat who drives different ultra expensive cars to the ring every time and had a pseudo Million Dollar Man thing going on. Which sadly is a change for the treatment of Latinos in wrestling which is normally defaulted to cholo gangster who wears flannels and says Ese a lot. I thought the WWE had heartily embraced luchadores and the normal treatment for Latinos was to make them wear a really awesome mask.
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