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evil_bunnY
Apr 2, 2003

D90 is a perfect camera to start on. Get a 35/1.8 to go with it and shoot a million pictures.

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8th-snype
Aug 28, 2005

My office is in the front room of a run-down 12 megapixel sensor but the rent suits me and the landlord doesn't ask many questions.

Dorkroom Short Fiction Champion 2012


Young Orc
A nonHP F3 is worth less than $200 unless the person buying it is an idiot. You will definitely make money by selling it just don't expect it to fully fund a decent DSLR.

Tayter Swift
Nov 18, 2002

Pillbug
Hooray, Apple updated their RAW compatibility to include the D5200 :dance:



I missed you Aperture

SoundMonkey
Apr 22, 2006

I just push buttons.


1st AD posted:

I don't know about you guys but once I'm past 85mm or so there's no way I could handhold without doing 1/2xfocal length for shutter speed (assuming no IS of course).

Meanwhile I can handhold down to like 1/4 at 16mm.

You might want to get checked out for epilepsy.

It takes some practice, but you can handhold at absurdly low speeds after a while (I think the longest I ever did that wasn't blurred was 28mm at three full loving seconds). Somewhere on the Pentax forum (I know, I know) there's a good guide written by a marksman about how to hold a camera steady.

Musket
Mar 19, 2008
You can hand hold 5min long exposures with an X100.


Also whats with all the Capture NX hate. Sure its wonky compared to LR but it does a fine job with the NEF files. Yall hate NikSoft or something?

FAT32 SHAMER
Aug 16, 2012



:siren:HOLY poo poo I DID IT:siren:





Then I experimented with aperture:

f/11:


f/4:


I wish it was this sunny all the time :(. Thanks for the tips and patience dudes, it's really paid off!

edit: I may have those apertures switched; I don't remember now :saddowns:

FAT32 SHAMER fucked around with this message at 07:33 on Feb 9, 2013

nielsm
Jun 1, 2009



All of those photos look overexposed by 1-2 stops. You could easily have gone from eg. 1/100 to 1/200 shutter speed, get an easier exposure (less worry about shake) as well as not blowing everything out.
Although I'm amazed you blew out the snow shots. (I'm guessing that's what they are.) Light meters tend to underexpose in snowy landscapes.

junto a la luna
Nov 11, 2009

I really like this photo. I think the lack of contrast on the bottom half works well.

I bought a D3200 today, which is pretty exciting. Its such a huge improvement over my E500. It also came with a free case and extra battery and stuff, which was nice. The only thing I am not particularly impressed with is the proprietary USB port.

Does anyone know what this bit of plastic if for? It was in the outer box, but I can't work out where it goes. It looks like something clips into it.

junto a la luna fucked around with this message at 14:03 on Feb 9, 2013

8th-snype
Aug 28, 2005

My office is in the front room of a run-down 12 megapixel sensor but the rent suits me and the landlord doesn't ask many questions.

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Young Orc

junto a la luna posted:



Does anyone know what this bit of plastic if for? It was in the outer box, but I can't work out where it goes. It looks like something clips into it.


That is a cap for the viewfinder so that stray light won't affect the meter should you be silly enough to use auto on long exposures. It is basically completely useless except in very specific circumstances.

Tayter Swift
Nov 18, 2002

Pillbug
Yeah I can't wait to hunt around for that thing if I ever want to sell my D3100 :pwn:

SoundMonkey
Apr 22, 2006

I just push buttons.


Eegah posted:

Yeah I can't wait to hunt around for that thing if I ever want to sell my D3100 :pwn:

I think that with that, much like the hotshoe cover, pretty much everyone expects that you lost it within moments of having the camera.

beep-beep car is go
Apr 11, 2005

I can just eyeball this, right?



SoundMonkey posted:

I think that with that, much like the hotshoe cover, pretty much everyone expects that you lost it within moments of having the camera.

Oh, you manage to keep it if you never buy a flash :smug:

Dr. Despair
Nov 4, 2009


39 perfect posts with each roll.

Shampoo posted:

Oh, you manage to keep it if you never buy a flash :smug:

Mine was missing for months before I bought a flash.


Stop babying your camera.

Bouillon Rube
Aug 6, 2009


Honestly I'm pretty surprised that Nikon would bother to throw in a viewfinder cover with a d3200.

Not that it isn't a great camera, just seems kind of meticulous for an entry level body.

evil_bunnY
Apr 2, 2003

It's like a 3c part, and Canon includes one. Can't let'em one up you like that.

Beastruction
Feb 16, 2005

evil_bunnY posted:

It's like a 3c part, and Canon includes one. Can't let'em one up you like that.

But it'd be $20 as a first party accessory.

SoundMonkey
Apr 22, 2006

I just push buttons.


Beastruction posted:

But it'd be $20 as a first party accessory.

Six bucks, actually :v:

Musket
Mar 19, 2008

Beastruction posted:

But it'd be $20 as a first party accessory.

Local Camera shop hands out replacements like candy becuase they have 89027369874654 of them in a shoebox.

Beastruction
Feb 16, 2005
So there's actually a lower limit for photography dollars?

Musket
Mar 19, 2008
There are plenty of cheap things to be bought in our hobby. :snoop:

geeves
Sep 16, 2004

I just bought a Canon EOS-3 film camera for myself and would like to buy my brother a Nikon equivalent for his birthday. What am I looking for and at roughly what price?

evil_bunnY
Apr 2, 2003

F80?

Dr. Despair
Nov 4, 2009


39 perfect posts with each roll.

The eos-3 seems go go for around 1-200 bucks from a quick look, so for an equal price that'd probably get you an f100 or an f4s body. If he doesn't need all the bells and whistles you could find something like an N75/F75 for much cheaper and still have a quality camera.

nielsm
Jun 1, 2009



geeves posted:

I just bought a Canon EOS-3 film camera for myself and would like to buy my brother a Nikon equivalent for his birthday. What am I looking for and at roughly what price?

F100 or F80, with F100 having better support for manual focus lenses. Expect a price around that of a new middle tier compact digital.

FAT32 SHAMER
Aug 16, 2012



I have an F3 body sitting here that I'd love to get rid of if you're interested :swoon:

ShotgunWillie
Aug 30, 2005

a sexy automaton -
powered by dark
oriental magic :roboluv:

Tusen Takk posted:

I have an F3 body sitting here that I'd love to get rid of if you're interested :swoon:

Flipping it already?

FAT32 SHAMER
Aug 16, 2012



ShotgunWillie posted:

Flipping it already?

I got a D3100 and my 105/4 lens from the F3 to dink with :)

SoundMonkey
Apr 22, 2006

I just push buttons.


Tusen Takk posted:

I have an F3 body sitting here that I'd love to get rid of if you're interested :swoon:

Take it to selling thread, do the needful, etc.

Musket
Mar 19, 2008

geeves posted:

I just bought a Canon EOS-3 film camera for myself and would like to buy my brother a Nikon equivalent for his birthday. What am I looking for and at roughly what price?

F100. Will allow modern and legacy lenses to function without issue.

Kazy
Oct 23, 2006

0x38: FLOPPY_INTERNAL_ERROR

Nikon D7100 this March, $1200, no AA filter, 24MP, stereo mic.

I want one :allears:

Krakkles
May 5, 2003

Kazy posted:

Nikon D7100 this March, $1200, no AA filter, 24MP, stereo mic.

I want one :allears:

Ditto. *sigh* goodbye, money!

krooj
Dec 2, 2006
Cool - so street pricing ought to be around $1000 ~ $1100 for the body. This has to put even more pressure on Canon to get the 7DmkII out, especially when you consider that Nikon has had them whipped for the past year or so (D800/E, D600, D71k). How are Canon's entry level SLRs compared to Nikon's?

I still want Nikon to get serious about MILCs, but maybe they're convinced it will gently caress their DSLRs?

evil_bunnY
Apr 2, 2003

They have a MILC range, it just happens to have stupid sensors.

Canon's MILCs use APS-C sensors, but the AF performance is atrocious. Which is more of a problem now, but easier to change than sensor size.

I don't think the Nikon entry level 24x36 DSLRs are so much better than Canon/Sony. There's just no reason for the 5d3 to be that much more money.

Mightaswell
Dec 4, 2003

Not now chief, I'm in the fuckin' zone.

evil_bunnY posted:

They have a MILC range, it just happens to have stupid sensors.

Canon's MILCs use APS-C sensors, but the AF performance is atrocious. Which is more of a problem now, but easier to change than sensor size.

I don't think the Nikon entry level 24x36 DSLRs are so much better than Canon/Sony. There's just no reason for the 5d3 to be that much more money.

It's worth noting that the two entry level crop DSLRs from Canon use sensors from 2008 (t3) and 2009 (t4i), while the Nikon entry level DSLRs were both updated last year with amazing high DR, high iso, 24mp sensors. Canon better have some amazing new sensor tech coming out this year.

evil_bunnY
Apr 2, 2003

I don't really keep up with the APS-C stuff anymore, but it appears the ~$800 camera range is kinda laughable:



The D3200's $500 gets you a t3i, but the official Canon entry level is the T4(1100D), which apparently uses the XSi (450D) sensor? If so then that's kinda sad.

Legdiian
Jul 14, 2004

Kazy posted:

Nikon D7100 this March, $1200, no AA filter, 24MP, stereo mic.

I want one :allears:

I check this thread everyday for this news. I just sent in my pre-order! Can someone explain the 1.3x DX crop? Is it just using less of the sensor and producing an image that appears to be zoomed in? Is the file size of the image going to be smaller in 1.3x mode? And finally, would I get the same results by shooting in "normal" mode and then cropping the image in an image editor?

evil_bunnY
Apr 2, 2003

Legdiian posted:

Can someone explain the 1.3x DX crop? Is it just using less of the sensor and producing an image that appears to be zoomed in? Is the file size of the image going to be smaller in 1.3x mode? And finally, would I get the same results by shooting in "normal" mode and then cropping the image in an image editor?
It's a 1.5 crop, same as all their crop DSLRs.

The detail on that sample image is a little ridiculous.

Legdiian
Jul 14, 2004

evil_bunnY posted:

It's a 1.5 crop, same as all their crop DSLRs.

Nikon.com posted:

The DX format effectively increases the shooting angle of view to an equivalent of approximately 1.5x the actual focal length of the lens*2. The new 1.3x DX crop image area increases this effect by an additional 1.3x for a total effective increase in angle of view to approximately 2x lens focal length*2, making distant subjects appear closer.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think it's 1.3x on top of the standard 1.5 crop.

ShadeofBlue
Mar 17, 2011

evil_bunnY posted:

It's a 1.5 crop, same as all their crop DSLRs.

The detail on that sample image is a little ridiculous.

You can have it crop another 1.3x for a ~16MP image, though. Yes, it's the same as cropping in post, although you do gain the added convenience of smaller file size, 7 FPS instead of 6, and I assume the viewfinder either has frame lines for the crop, or it might even black out the cropped off parts of the image.

By the way, cropping DX 1.3x is the same as a micro-four thirds sized sensor, if anyone cares about the comparison.

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Miko
May 20, 2001

Where I come from, there's no such thing as kryptonite.
51point AF with 15 crosstypes. Wowzers, and I thought my D7000 was good.

I like where Nikon is going with this. Canon should have something up their sleeve for a 7D update, it came out before the D7000, and is getting kind of long in the tooth.

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