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YggiDee posted:I finally dug up my Dragon Quest ix cart after having thought I lost it... Is the DQVC still available? I want to grab the DLC characters but I'm having trouble finding any viable Wifi around here.
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But if they shut down the servers, then I can't download the quests or the characters.
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Feb 21, 2013 19:51
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YggiDee posted:But if they shut down the servers, then I can't download the quests or the characters. If I remember rightly enough if you link with someone with the quests and characters, you get thier stuff.
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Feb 21, 2013 20:12
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I don't know anyone else who owns this game. The DS scene where I am is nearly non-existant; the Dragon Quest scene even more so.
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Feb 21, 2013 20:21
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Mister Roboto posted:Gonna have some tough times with the early battles, for sure, but it'll be a fun slog. Interesting. I'll have to open her up and take a look whenever I gain the resolve. I'm pleased to hear that it may be repairable. About my DQIII party: The cleric and jester are of course going to become sages, because it just isn't a good old-fashioned run of the game if you don't end up with some sages. Should I class change the thief at all or just leave her to do her thing?
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Feb 21, 2013 22:52
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Blind the Thief posted:Interesting. I'll have to open her up and take a look whenever I gain the resolve. I'm pleased to hear that it may be repairable. I don't want to give you false hope about the cartridge...I think my buddy got lucky and just soldered something convenient. If the little internal battery's going, it's gonna go eventually. As for the DQ3 thing, hey, it's your game, haha, just that early battles will obviously be all physical and that will be hard until the thief learns useful skills.
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Feb 22, 2013 01:51
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YggiDee posted:But if they shut down the servers, then I can't download the quests or the characters. The servers were up when I tried a week ago.
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Feb 24, 2013 03:54
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 Got this sexy little thang at PAX last weekend. My first time playing through it. Just beat Kandar and am on my way to the sleeping village. Probably gonna slow my progress down a bit when I get Pokemon Black 2 tomorrow, but I wanna actually finish it. I'm so bad at finishing RPGs. Still working on Dragon Quest V which I started ages ago.
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Apr 2, 2013 03:22
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That is hands down my favorite Dragon Quest game and probably one of my favorite RPGs ever, even with all the grinding and what not.quote:About my DQIII party: The cleric and jester are of course going to become sages, because it just isn't a good old-fashioned run of the game if you don't end up with some sages. Should I class change the thief at all or just leave her to do her thing? If we're talking end-game strategies here, you want to class-change into a Thief due to their high speed. Best thing to do is to take your Thief into the Sage class somehow, learn all the required magic, and then class change back into a Thief for high speed. As far as I know, Intelligence only affects MP and how fast you learn spells, so your Thief will be doing just as much damage with magic as your Sage. You just need to find a good personality to give adequate MP And Speed gains, like maybe Sexy (Or get high MP with Sharp and then switch to Quick for Agility gains). Then for another caster, you may want to make them super slow, and the reason is that for the super-hard optional boss you'll want someone who can heal your party at the beginning of the turn before the boss attacks, and then someone who can heal it at the end. Of course, this level of min/maxing is really only required for beating the optional boss multiple times, where the number of turns you spend make a difference. Before the end, though, I think Thieves are pretty useful, especially if you don't use a guide. They are like dungeon crawling utility characters with the ability to act before pretty much everyone else in battle. I liked giving my Thief a Wreck Whip and the Sage Rock so she could do double duty as both a fast healer and someone who can clear whole enemy lines. Class changing her into a Sage and back into a Thief will make her even better, but really it's not necessary to complete the game. For what it's worth, my party was Fighter (Martial Artist version), Cleric, Thief. I class changed the Cleric to a Sage at level 20 but other than that my party remained the same until the post-game content where I think I may have made my Thief into a Sage and then back into a Thief. It's honestly been close to a decade since I last played it so I could be wrong. Also my Hero was Valiant for much of the game, but I think giving them a personality with lots of MP at some point will really help with beating the optional boss, since they get the most powerful spell in the game, Thordain. Nickoten fucked around with this message at 03:35 on Apr 2, 2013 |
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Apr 2, 2013 03:25
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Man, that box cover brings back such awesome memories. 
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nutranurse posted:Man, that box cover brings back such awesome memories. Me too, which is weird because I never played a Dragon Quest game until V which I picked up a couple years ago. I was always aware of Dragon Quest. Legends of Japanese schools shutting down on release days made their way here and I'd hear about it all the time, but I wasn't into non-Pokemon RPGs as a kid. But I was DEFINITELY familiar with Akira Toriyama's work. So even though I've just gotten into DQ in the last two or three years, it still has some nostalgic effect on me. Two PAXes ago I saw DQ 1&2 for Game Boy Color and still kick myself to this day for not picking it up. That game is pricey.
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Currently playing through DQ8 for the first time since it came out, and I just have to say Slime Bingo can kiss my rear end. Anyway, I'm sure I'm not the only one who wished they had kept the series going in that direction. Who thought an MMO would be the best move for DQX?
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Apr 2, 2013 13:21
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Bigass Moth posted:Anyway, I'm sure I'm not the only one who wished they had kept the series going in that direction. Who thought an MMO would be the best move for DQX? I don't think it's a BAD move per se, it's all about how they handle it. It seems to be doing great in Japan, but MMOs have been on the wane in the states. Companies put them out, make a big deal, then they go free to play until they crash and burn. And Square and Nintendo seem to have no freakin' idea what they're doing with it here. Even giant franchises like Star Wars are bombing with MMOs so it's difficult to tell. I played Elder Scrolls Online at PAX and besides the badass free t shirt, it was not a pleasant experience. My problem with a numbered RPG entry as an MMO is the expiration date. There will be a day when a whole numbered story in the series will be lost to the ages.
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Apr 2, 2013 16:48
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Bigass Moth posted:Currently playing through DQ8 for the first time since it came out, and I just have to say Slime Bingo can kiss my rear end. Hey, me too! It's pretty fantastic looking on PCSX2. The overworld remains an incredible thing, every area of this huge map had thought and care put into it and it's a joy to explore.
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Wendell posted:Hey, me too! It's pretty fantastic looking on PCSX2. The overworld remains an incredible thing, every area of this huge map had thought and care put into it and it's a joy to explore. I don't think any PS2 era or above really got the world map portion of an RPG right like DQ8 did. Xenoblade did an excellent job as well but that was more than a few years later. The sense of scale and scope is just amazing. You said it perfectly - it's just a joy to explore.
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Apr 2, 2013 23:54
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One thing that's making me put on my grognard glasses is the lack of help you receive. This game isn't really that old but it is oldschool as hell if that makes sense.
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Levantine posted:I don't think any PS2 era or above really got the world map portion of an RPG right like DQ8 did. Xenoblade did an excellent job as well but that was more than a few years later. The sense of scale and scope is just amazing. You said it perfectly - it's just a joy to explore. Did we play the same Xenoblade? It doesn't have a world map.
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Pyroxene Stigma posted:Did we play the same Xenoblade? It doesn't have a world map. I think he's referring to how Xenoblade and Dragon Quest VIII both feature semi-seamless travel between locations rather than going from a mostly to-scale town to a much more abstract overworld like in the older Dragon Quest games.
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Pyroxene Stigma posted:Did we play the same Xenoblade? It doesn't have a world map. It does, but you only see it the first time you reach an area since there isn't much use for one other than that.
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Apr 3, 2013 21:27
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Nickoten posted:I think he's referring to how Xenoblade and Dragon Quest VIII both feature semi-seamless travel between locations rather than going from a mostly to-scale town to a much more abstract overworld like in the older Dragon Quest games. Yes, exactly this, thank you.
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Apr 4, 2013 00:14
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I want to start playing Dragon Quest VII on the PS1. Is there anything I need to know before I start?
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Tired Moritz posted:I want to start playing Dragon Quest VII on the PS1. There's a remake for the 3DS that may or may not be released in your region.
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Tired Moritz posted:I want to start playing Dragon Quest VII on the PS1. The first few hours have no fighting. It gets better. The remake makes the game easier, but if you aren't against reading walkthroughs it probably doesn't matter.
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Tired Moritz posted:I want to start playing Dragon Quest VII on the PS1. Yes, it's the slowest game beginning of all time but the entire experience oozes atmosphere. The map sprites look absolutely terrible but in-battle enemies look great and animate really well for the era. Be prepared to explore and check every pot for tablet shards or you might get stuck.
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I'm right near the end of the 3DS version, and the only thing I think I may have wanted to know ahead is which characters are removed from the party mid game without warning, just so I can manage stat upgrades and who I teach some important skills to better.
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Tired Moritz posted:I want to start playing Dragon Quest VII on the PS1. Keep playing the ps1 version. The remake is a piece of crap.
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What, no. The PS1 version is well nigh unplayable because of frequent freezes and crashes. It also lets players go on past a place you can't return to which has a shard...meaning one can't finish the game. The 3DS remake is beautiful with vastly enhanced graphics. It also hasn't crashed once yet, and I'm around 70 hours in. It's no contest, the PS1 version sucks. Doug Dinsdale fucked around with this message at 17:20 on Apr 4, 2013 |
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Doug Dinsdale posted:The PS1 version is well nigh unplayable because of frequent freezes and crashes. In 35 hours of play, I've not encountered a single crash in the PS1 version of DQVII.
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nene. posted:Keep playing the ps1 version. The remake is a piece of crap. Why do you say this? Also, in Dragon Quest VIII I just got to the part where the depressed king is snapped back to reality by the memories of his dead wife. That was really good.
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A quick search on Google Japan came up with a bunch of hits related to PS1 DQ7 bugs and freezes. One recommendation: Play on PS1 and not PS2 (and if you play on PS2, set the read speed to normal). A totally worthless advice, "Play the Ultimate Hits reissue rather than the original." There are also game-breaking bugs like a stopper at Dharma Temple you can avoid, but necessitates resetting. There's an NPC who can join the party twice, but if so, several shards become unobtainable and the game becomes uncompletable (if you save after this happens, you are toast). When we were localizing the PS1 version at Enix USA, we used to get crashes all the time.
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Saigyouji posted:In 35 hours of play, I've not encountered a single crash in the PS1 version of DQVII. Mine crashed all the time back in ye olde PS1 days. 100 hours in and barely halfway through the game, what a mess.
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I never got a crash on ps1 version and the remake is zoomed in so that you can't see the area around you and a ugly graphic style compared to the cute old one. They should never have changed from the style of the original 7 and the DS remakes.
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Okay, that's a really weird opinion.
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Apr 4, 2013 18:42
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Wendell posted:Okay, that's a really weird opinion. Not liking the camera seems like a pretty common complaint, I can see why it would irritate people. I don't mind the graphics though, especially the costume changes: 
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Apr 4, 2013 18:52
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I actually just meant in regard to the non-"cute" graphics. Dragon Quest VII was infamously hideous upon release, and making a game that looks like it today would be bizarre.
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Doug Dinsdale posted:What, no. The PS1 version is well nigh unplayable because of frequent freezes and crashes. I've done a couple playthroughs of the game and I might've had one system freeze/crash in what was likely 120-140 hours of gameplay. What 'stuck' part are you referring to anyways? I can't recall a shard that was in an area you'd get locked out of. You should be saving across multiple slots either way though, that's pretty much RPG 101 stuff because and when you forget it for the first time and can't get a boss drop or something you'll start remembering it better. Wendell posted:I actually just meant in regard to the non-"cute" graphics. Dragon Quest VII was infamously hideous upon release, and making a game that looks like it today would be bizarre. Pretty much all the complaints I recall for this game on PS1 were things like "it's 2d sprites and not wonderful 3D models like FF7 had, why does Enix hate fun and pretty graphics please don't pay attention to how good the sprites actually look especially battle animations.  "
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Apr 4, 2013 21:43
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It's weird that people can praise the look of the DS games but not Dragon Quest VII, the DS games are remade in the style of VII. The 3DS remake just seems weirdly amateurish, the 3d models and textures are bad and it is wayyyyyy too zoomed in. They have reduced the field of view by an insane amount and now you have to look at the map a lot to be able to tell where you are going and what is around you. 
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It looks just like DQIX, a great game.  Might be because IX was designed for the DS, though.
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Maybe it was just my tv, but I think that second screencap is a little misleading. Playing DQ7 as a kid, the image on the tv was really badly pixelated so I was right in there with the 'this game is ugly as sin' camp. (Not that it stopped me from liking the game) It looks a lot better on emulator where you can shrink down the window. They used the same style the the DS remakes and it looks really nice on the smaller screen. TI don't think what I've seen of the 3DS version look bad either. It looks like they took the DQ8 style and shrunk it down to 9's proportions, but the textures look fine to me. They're certainly more cartoonish, but I don't think that's bad, just different. It is weird that they reduced the field of view so drastically though. What would be the reason for that? Some sort of hardware or engine limitation? Or is it just an art decision?
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Once it looks worse than Wild Arms, you may complain.
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