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Cygni posted:They still hate each other. I don't know why but I find this hysterical. Oh, and the book I mentioned is Phoenix Squadron by Rowland White. Don't let the praise from Jeremy Clarkson dissuade you, it really is an excellent read.
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All Of The Dicks posted:The disunity of the British Isles vexes me. Tiny islands should not have separate nations in them. You're going to hate this:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_divided_islands
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I know the HRE has been posted, but it bears repeating just how incredibly complex and convoluted the territories which comprised it were. Here is a map of Further Austria, a collective name for the states under direct control of Austria in SW Germany, after 1648. It's doubly relevant because it pertains to both stupid shaped borders chat and Swiss chat. 
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Feb 22, 2013 02:48
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This is Steinstücken as it is today: The area to the northeast that it is connected to via a single road is southwestern Berlin; the area surrounding it on all sides except for that road is Brandenburg, with Potsdam directly to the west. This means that before German reunification, it was a West German semi-exclave surrounded by East Germany. Except it actually was a 100% legit exclave until 1971, when the four occupying powers realized that this was loving retarded and gave a narrow piece of land (where the connecting road is located today) to West Berlin in exchange for a couple of uninhabited Western exclaves going to East Germany (there were quite a few of those exclaves, but Steinstücken was the only inhabited one that didn't get transferred population and all). This is what it looked like then:  It's not really politically loaded per se, but I find it amazing how this dumb border situation goes back to 1787 and had such bizarre repercussions 160 years later. (Added bonus: that red bridge crossing the Havel river in the upper left is Glienicke Bridge, where the US and the USSR exchanged captured spied four times during the Cold War.)
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That reminds me of the peace walls in Belfast    Vice did an interesting travel guide there https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nzDuiv3U8o GreenCard78 fucked around with this message at 04:04 on Feb 22, 2013 |
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Feb 22, 2013 04:01
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Farecoal posted:You're going to hate this: I was on the island of Saint Martin during William and Kate's wedding. I spent lunch on the Dutch side, in a Chinese restaurant, decorated with British flags with a few French friends. It was quite the experience.
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Vincent Van Goatse posted:I don't know why but I find this hysterical.  Guatemala is a small country but they are in the big leagues for horror. Maps!  For some political loading, the current president of Guatemala, Otto Perez Molina, was a highly-placed military officer and even director of military intelligence during the time these massacres were being carried out. He eventually came to lead the faction that was in favor of negotiations to end the civil war, and he represented the military in the 1996 peace talks, but he was very likely involved in serious war crimes before that. Lots and lots of soldiers and former soldiers who participated in atrocities and assassinations remain at large and immune to prosecution, and the dictator (Efrain Rios Montt) who presided over the worst abuses is only now coming to trial, which is itself a cause for unease because there are a lot of other criminals who may take action to avert their own prosecution. No telling what those evil shits would have done with Belize if they'd got their hands on it, so thank God for the Commonwealth I guess?
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Farecoal posted:You're going to hate this:  Had to leech this since imgur etc don't support svg. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M%C3%A4rket
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Bensa posted:
Just useful tip for Wikipedia SVG images. If you click on the image, under it will be various PNG versions of it in different sizes (200px etc) 
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Feb 22, 2013 08:25
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Is this better? Must've been an interesting place during the Cold War.  USA left, Russia right. And here's a closer look on Gibraltar: 
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 This is the Comoros Islands, former French colonies. Three belongs to the Union of the Comoros while Mayotte became a French dependency after the decolonization vote. While the other three islands voted for decolonization, 63% of Mayotte voted to remain French in 1974 (and 99% in 1976). It's still a dispute between the two countries, the Union of Comoros considering the Island as part of its territory (there are four stars on its flag for each of the main islands including Mayotte) and France vetoing a UN Security Council draft recognizing Mayotte as being part of the Comoros in 1976. In 2011 Mayotte became a French department (an integral part of France) after a vote in which 95% voted in 2009 for the status. Kurtofan fucked around with this message at 12:25 on Feb 22, 2013 |
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This seems to be a blind spot with the UN's decolonisation process. Obviously colonialism is bad and all but what do you do when the population doesn't want to be 'decolonised'? Apparently you declare that they're wrong and they should be forced to become part of another country against their will in the name of freedom. Here's a 19th Century French writer's vision of how Europe would look in the 20th Century.
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Crameltonian posted:This seems to be a blind spot with the UN's decolonisation process. Obviously colonialism is bad and all but what do you do when the population doesn't want to be 'decolonised'? Apparently you declare that they're wrong and they should be forced to become part of another country against their will in the name of freedom. I love that this dude apparently didn't know about the existence of any cities in Poland or Ukraine
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Paris heavily subsidizes its DOM and TOM. There's little support for independence in most of them.
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Yeah, former colonial empires hold on to their last scraps of overseas territory so hard that gently caress it, why leave, free money and EU citizenship! I do like it that as an EU citizen I can just go to South America without visa or anything and live and work in there as long as I want. A very small piece of South America, but cool nonetheless.
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More French stuff: The Territory of Belfort is one of the smallest French department(outside some Parisian ones). It was created in 1871 during the annexation of Alsace-Lorraine by Germany.It was the only part of Alsace retained by France, partly because most of the population was French-speaking, contrary to the rest of Alsace where people mostly spoke Alsatian. It remained independent from the Haut-Rhin department even after Alsace was reintegrated into France and officially became a department in 1922. It is part of the Free County(Franche Comté) region and not the Alsace region. 
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Feb 22, 2013 17:15
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 Most common location for a craigslist missed connection by state.
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Indiana: "At Home"
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Cygni posted:
Georgia- "The Car" Indiana- "At Home" Rhode Island- "Parking Lot"
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Apparently there are a lot of 40 year old men looking for love at strip clubs and adult bookstores.
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Cygni posted:
Or, Walmart.png.
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Farecoal posted:You're going to hate this: I vacationed there once on the Dutch side. I ended up traveling all over the island, but the only difference that I saw were that the French side had signs in French and they accepted Euros.
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Feb 22, 2013 19:12
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Cygni posted:
Gotta love how pretty much all of the south finds love at walmart   Accurate to the best of my knowledge as a True Texan
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Cygni posted:
So, uh...American supermarkets must be pretty awesome places? And apparently Arizonans travel to LA fitness clubs to find love...
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DarkCrawler posted:So, uh...American supermarkets must be pretty awesome places? Americans in most states only leave their home <-car-> work routine to work out or buy food. And I say this as an American whose guilty of this most days.
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DarkCrawler posted:So, uh...American supermarkets must be pretty awesome places?
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Buzzfeed threw up a goldmine today. Most of them aren't particularly political but they're still interesting.  Every country England has ever invaded.  Writing systems of the world.
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Feb 22, 2013 20:57
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DarkCrawler posted:LA fitness clubs to find love...
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last laugh posted:LA Fitness is a chain, not sure why they specify the type of club there, but Minnesota is generic "supermarket" instead of say, Cub Foods. Usually means there is only one option. You can say that you were at the supermarket or the gym and everyone knows exactly where you mean.
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System Metternich posted:And here's a closer look on Gibraltar: There was an episode of Three Sheets on Gibraltar, and yes, the airport runway does, in fact, cross the main street. (At least, it did. Wikipedia says they put in a tunnel.)
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Angiepants posted:
I wonder how they are defining invasion. Also that writing systems map, goddamnit Asia/Indian Subcontinent, pick a loving standard already like the rest of us.
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CellBlock posted:There was an episode of Three Sheets on Gibraltar, and yes, the airport runway does, in fact, cross the main street. (At least, it did. Wikipedia says they put in a tunnel.) The main access road from Spain crosses the runway in Gib. They have a sliding fence and close it up when planes land - I walked across from La Linea when I visited. Spain closed the land border for many years, so they needed to reclaim land for a runway and still had to disrupt traffic with it.
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Red_Mage posted:I wonder how they are defining invasion. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Invasion
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Angiepants posted:Buzzfeed threw up a goldmine today. Most of them aren't particularly political but they're still interesting. I remember seeing that map before; isn't it just a map of nations England has been at war with, not necessarily landed troops in? I can't ever recall the English invasion of Poland, other than maybe WWII, but I am pretty sure England and Poland were on opposite sides of the Hundred Years War, and so even though Poland mostly spent the war fighting Sweden, they were at war. E: Wait, looking it up it's not the 100 years war I'm thinking of  Although Poland did fight in Cnut the Great's Conquest of England, which Cnut won so I don't really think this would be an example of England invading somethingE2: Huh I guess it was the 30 years war I was thinking of, and Poland wasn't involved  . Welp.
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Folks posted:Stuff about England They may be going off of this Daily Mail article.
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Angiepants posted:Buzzfeed threw up a goldmine today. Most of them aren't particularly political but they're still interesting. ...Algeria? Armenia? Ecuador? Laos? Liberia? Finland? Angola? Why Kazakhstan but not Uzbekistan?  OH GOD SO MANY QUESTIONS.
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ecureuilmatrix posted:...Algeria? Armenia? Ecuador? Laos? Liberia? Finland? Angola? Why Kazakhstan but not Uzbekistan? Expeditionary forces from the Siberian Intervention maybe? There's a book, if you're interested.
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Isn't that map is also counting british privateers as invaders?
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I don't recall the British ever invading the Philippines, either.
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ecureuilmatrix posted:...Algeria? Armenia? Ecuador? Laos? Liberia? Finland? Angola? Why Kazakhstan but not Uzbekistan? The Royal Navy did raids on the coast of Finland during the Crimean War. I suppose it's a bit of a stretch to call it an "invasion", they landed marines in a handful of towns, to burn down shipyards and tar warehouses. They also bombarded the fortress of Bomarsund.
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