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Red Warrior posted:But Guy Fieri is easily the biggest star on Food Network now as sad as that is. You have entire nights of back-to-back DDD episodes because it simply out-rates anything else they put on. It is loving sad and pisses me off because I'd rather them marathon some other shows instead, kinda like BBC America mini-marathons different shows on different days. Also Guy is hack, etc. I still thought Flay was their biggest celeb but yeah all the DDD on the schedule says otherwise. Blah.
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I have to admit I'm part of the problem; if DDD is on and I need background noise, I'll choose that over many other things. Food porn, I guess.
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Feb 21, 2013 04:36
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He's good at selling up the places he goes and there are some pretty cool spots he visits so I don't really feel any shame since it has nothing to do with his actual cooking. He's an affable enough show host and I'm not above watching DDD if it's on but I'm not like DVRing first-run eps or anything.
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Feb 21, 2013 04:52
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To be fair, DDD conducts the money train to Flavor Town. Also DDD is pretty good for seeing different places around the country but it's a terrible show to marathon. I can only watch 2 or 3 episodes of Guy cramming food into his bleached face before I can't watch anymore. And for fun watch the DDD people make their signature food then contrast with all the frozen food on Restaurant Impossible.
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Feb 21, 2013 04:55
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Tupping Liberty posted:I have to admit I'm part of the problem; if DDD is on and I need background noise, I'll choose that over many other things. Food porn, I guess. I used to do that but I'm stopping myself, I'm tired of seeing guy fieri. 
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Feb 21, 2013 05:14
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Y Kant Ozma Post posted:I used to do that but I'm stopping myself, I'm tired of seeing guy fieri. I'm the same way. I used to find him pretty OK on DDD, because he clicked so well with everyone he visited and he had a similar charisma to Emeril with the catchphrases and the energy. But then something just happened. I don't know if he got worse or if I got tired of hearing about Flavortown or both, but he's just so obnoxious now.
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Feb 21, 2013 05:27
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Last nights Restaurant Impossible really just drove home how fake that show is. They had an owner flip out and try and quit doing the show. After she stormed off and went home they started smashing up her restaurant anyways. Imagine if she actually wanted to quit doing the show and then found out they had smashed up her restaurant anyways? That concept is not something they would allow to happen.
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Feb 21, 2013 14:02
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axleblaze posted:Last nights Restaurant Impossible really just drove home how fake that show is. They had an owner flip out and try and quit doing the show. After she stormed off and went home they started smashing up her restaurant anyways. Imagine if she actually wanted to quit doing the show and then found out they had smashed up her restaurant anyways? That concept is not something they would allow to happen. I missed that episode (SVU was just way more important) but FN really overhyped that whole scene. I knew it would be fake but I kind of wanted to see it anyway. For some reason, I was hoping it was real. I'm slightly disappointed, honestly. Though, if it was real, I'm sure the internet articles about it would've exploded months ago.
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Feb 21, 2013 17:32
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Jamesman posted:I'm the same way. I used to find him pretty OK on DDD, because he clicked so well with everyone he visited... Once, just once, I want to see him stuff whatever pile of mush they put in front of him into his mouth, look and the camera, and say "Jesus, this tastes like poo poo!" If you've seen one episode of his show, you've seen them all. His critiques of the food are all identical.
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Feb 21, 2013 19:51
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Didn't Rachel Ray do pretty much the same thing while on camera? Though she trash talked a few of the restaurants (not by name) on a late night show once.
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Feb 21, 2013 19:53
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Force McCocken posted:Once, just once, I want to see him stuff whatever pile of mush they put in front of him into his mouth, look and the camera, and say "Jesus, this tastes like poo poo!" If you've seen one episode of his show, you've seen them all. His critiques of the food are all identical. He's done that a few times (though obviously not in those words) but it's usually something not normal (usually made with offal). I remember there was some Mexican soup made with organ meats that he just hated. Honestly I don't know how he can call himself a real chef and be so squeamish about trying weird things. For fucks sake he made a big deal out of trying tongue. But in general he does pretty much say the same things every time. He's really taken to using the term "mouth feel" as of late because I think he heard a real chef say it somewhere. Once in a while you can tell he really likes something but it's mostly the same stuff. "The *blank* has a good crunch and the *blank* has a great mouth feel. But what really makes it is that *blank*! That's winner winner chicken dinner/money!" Then he's make an awful joke that is older than him by a good 60 years and look at the camera like "I am just so outrageous!" I'm glad I finally got myself to mostly stop watching that show ut as people have said, it's just on so much and you can put it in the background.
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Feb 21, 2013 20:14
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axleblaze posted:For fucks sake he made a big deal out of trying tongue. Seriously? That's pathetic.
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Feb 21, 2013 20:29
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axleblaze posted:For fucks sake he made a big deal out of trying tongue. I figured for that part he was just trying to be more relatable to people at home who haven't tried anything more exotic than using ground pork in their tuna helper. He may be annoying to anyone who understands what food is, but I don't think he'd be on TV so much if a bunch of people didn't see him as affable and good host. Someone you would want to bro-around with. I have to admit I do like watching DDD, but I think the secret is to watch and enjoy the food-making part, and tune out for the tasting part. And also for any part where Guy decides to make his own version of something - I'm not saying I wouldn't try a 3-hotdog, cheese, bacon, cheeto, sauerkraut, mayo, mustard, other kind of mustard, hot pepper, and more bacon wrap, I'm just saying you shouldn't conceive of that without being really, really baked.
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Feb 21, 2013 23:43
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Force McCocken posted:Once, just once, I want to see him stuff whatever pile of mush they put in front of him into his mouth, look and the camera, and say "Jesus, this tastes like poo poo!" If you've seen one episode of his show, you've seen them all. His critiques of the food are all identical. Agreed on all counts there. I didn't have a problem with DDD like, around when it was first started but there is nothing to keep it interesting for me. And he never hates on anything, which is a crucial requirement for me in a FN personality.
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Feb 22, 2013 00:04
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axleblaze posted:He's done that a few times (though obviously not in those words) but it's usually something not normal (usually made with offal). I remember there was some Mexican soup made with organ meats that he just hated. Honestly I don't know how he can call himself a real chef and be so squeamish about trying weird things. For fucks sake he made a big deal out of trying tongue. As someone who has pretty much watched them all, Guy is a very picky eater. He's not a breakfast person and absolutely hates eggs and dislikes sweet breakfast items. He doesn't like breaded chicken wings. And octopus and organ meat makes him cringe. I know people who don't like those things but they aren't professional chefs who also host tv shows where they eat and judge the quality of food for a living.
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Feb 22, 2013 04:24
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axleblaze posted:Last nights Restaurant Impossible really just drove home how fake that show is. They had an owner flip out and try and quit doing the show. After she stormed off and went home they started smashing up her restaurant anyways. Imagine if she actually wanted to quit doing the show and then found out they had smashed up her restaurant anyways? That concept is not something they would allow to happen. I a pretty sure that if it were real the owner's would be signing something that basically relieves Food Network of any liabilty and that the show must go on no matter how big of a hissy fit the owner(s) throw. DDD is ok in small doses. It is really hyped up though. I was in Connecticut for work training and on our way home (we drove), my coworker said we were taking a detour to try out this place that was on DDD because he wanted to try the duck hash that Guy orgasmed over. So, we plugged it into the GPS and made our way there. While the breakfast items were numerous and all sounded tasty, it wasn't some mecca of breakfast hash that it was made out to be. My coworker could not find duck hash on the menu even though it was seemingly a feature item at the diner. All in all it was a good meal but I can barely remember what I ate outside of a standard corned beef hash. The place was small as poo poo too.
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Feb 22, 2013 04:39
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Since we're talking about Guy Fieri, anyone see the parody website for his restaurant? http://www.guysamericankitchenandbar.com/
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Feb 22, 2013 04:46
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The Merkinman posted:Since we're talking about Guy Fieri, anyone see the parody website for his restaurant? Here's a review about the actual restaurant http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/14/dining/reviews/restaurant-review-guys-american-kitchen-bar-in-times-square.html?_r=0 It seems it's not very good
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Feb 22, 2013 04:50
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The Merkinman posted:Since we're talking about Guy Fieri, anyone see the parody website for his restaurant? According to Abe, all those jokes were stolen from our very own Wayne Gretzky.
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Feb 22, 2013 04:52
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Carrot Wheel posted:According to Abe, all those jokes were stolen from our very own Wayne Gretzky. No, it was some goon's friend. There was a thread in GBS for it, but I can't find what happened to it. Did it get moved/deleted?
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Feb 22, 2013 06:12
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I gassed it. http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3534649
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Feb 22, 2013 06:14
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To DDD's credit, it's about a gabillion times better than Fieri's actual cooking show (which isn't produced anymore, right?)
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Feb 22, 2013 16:46
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DDD is what it is, it's not a restaurant review show, he's not going to say this place sucks or anything, that's just not what it should be about. If it was, it wouldn't be as popular, people like seeing something that's so relentlessly positive, that's the charm of it. It drives a huge amount of business to these places - the only complaints I've ever seen are from former regulars who now find their favorite places overrun by tourists. Not everything is going to live up the hype, after all they are mostly just the diner many of us have down the street. It's about celebrating comfort food, for better or worse people want to see that. They like that Fieri squeems a little when presented with tripe or something because they do too. Anthony Bourdain wrote about Food Network wanting a new season of Cook's Tour to be about him just going to mom and pop places in the US, since the couple of episodes he did going to BBQ joints and so on in the original seasons were by far the most popular. That's maybe where the concept came from. What's interesting is that they've tried many times (I could probably list ten shows) to replicate the formula with different hosts or different takes across Food Network and Cooking Channel and none of those shows have had any real success. Fieri has found his niche and he's who people want to see yucking it up backwards sunglasses and all. They're almost in a place where HGTV was a couple of years ago, when House Hunters was something like 75% of their primetime schedule. They do have strong competition shows though but if people do start getting sick of DDD they could struggle to fill that gap.
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Red Warrior posted:
I think they also wanted him to stay in country because it's much cheaper. Sending him and a crew to all these faraway places was expensive and FN wasn't nearly as big back then as it is now. The thing is, though, you can see Scripps doing this same thing with the Travel Channel now that they own it. When was the last time Andrew Zimmern left the country? It's not Bizarre Foods anymore, now it's Bizarre Foods USA. They're obsessed with keeping their shows US based and maybe, on a special occasion, send one up to Canada for an episode.
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Feb 22, 2013 18:34
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Speaking of which, anyone know when the DDD from Toronto is supposed to air? Fieri actually went to my favourite BBQ joint on the ep, which is more than can be said for Bourdain when he was here for Layover.
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Feb 22, 2013 19:40
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As much as DDD annoys me, I will say that the one place I went to that was featured on DDD was incredible.
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Feb 22, 2013 19:42
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flashy_mcflash posted:To DDD's credit, it's about a gabillion times better than Fieri's actual cooking show (which isn't produced anymore, right?) Actually, that still has new episodes that show up on weekend mornings.
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Feb 23, 2013 00:57
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Yeah, I think a lot of those old cooking shows exist but they're just aired early in the morning!
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Jamesman posted:No, it was some goon's friend. There was a thread in GBS for it, but I can't find what happened to it. Did it get moved/deleted? Some goon's friend stole them from Wayne Gretzky (see thread Ozma linked.)
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axleblaze posted:As much as DDD annoys me, I will say that the one place I went to that was featured on DDD was incredible. I went to a place here in Phoenix that was a Chinese/Mexican place. It was pretty good but I wouldn't eat it on a flip flop.
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Feb 23, 2013 03:13
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On this weeks Sugar Dome they had to make video game related cakes and I think from their designs no one there had ever played a video game in their life. It's funny because it was clear that at least two of the teams just did not want to make a video game cake, so instead they made something else and tried to come up with an explanation about how it was game related. Also the video game related judge has a staggeringly bad list of credits.
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Y Kant Ozma Post posted:Seriously? That's pathetic. I guess it was my Russian upbringing maybe, but I survived on a healthy diet of tongue sandwiches growing up. I suppose I have always thought that everyone had eaten tongue regularly as a kid. One more reason to hate Mr. Fieri.
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Feb 24, 2013 09:01
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So, has it been determined if the contestants on Worst Cooks are actors or not?
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Feb 25, 2013 01:09
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I just assumed most were. And that the fingernail moment in the last episode was made up. Aaahhhh worst cooks!
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Feb 25, 2013 01:46
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I really wish that The Taste was more watchable. With Sweet Genius not having new episodes right now and Rachel vs. Guy wrapping up their season of "so bad it's good" episodes, I find myself without any food shows to watch. Does anyone have any suggestions?
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dude789 posted:I really wish that The Taste was more watchable. With Sweet Genius not having new episodes right now and Rachel vs. Guy wrapping up their season of "so bad it's good" episodes, I find myself without any food shows to watch. Does anyone have any suggestions? If you didn't mind Rachael vs Guy then there's no reason you won't be okay with Worst Cooks. Hell's Kitchen will be starting again soon but that's on Fox and this is a cable channels thread (I think?) and HK has its own thread anyway.
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I'll check it out. Although all this talk about how fake the show is does worry me a bit.
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dude789 posted:I really wish that The Taste was more watchable. With Sweet Genius not having new episodes right now and Rachel vs. Guy wrapping up their season of "so bad it's good" episodes, I find myself without any food shows to watch. Does anyone have any suggestions? This is gonna be a long post since I'll break it down what each show does but; lately, I've been watching shows on the Live Well Network. My Family Recipe Rocks! This one is pretty much Joey Fatone doing what I think Bobby Flay used to do a long time ago on FN. He visits a home and the person cooks their signature dish/dishes and they give up the full recipe on LWN's website. Fatone actually helps the people cook as well. He's also done one episode with the Chirba Chirba food truck. It's not without the awful episodes though. He did an episode with Carrot Top and CT's wife/girlfriend/whatever...CT was so annoying, they pretty much kicked him out so cooking could be done in peace. Food Rush This one has Ryan Scott in it. I think they want him to be the Bobby Flay of LWN but he's not and that's good. He pretty much does random recipes either in his restaurant or at his home. I remember one episode he did to cater a gay pride parade. LWN didn't hide that it was for gay pride, they didn't edit out any rainbow flags or make sure he never mentioned the word "gay". It's one of my favorite episodes and he's a pretty drat cool guy for doing it in my book because it didn't seem like something he was forced to do for an episode. Also, he has a radio show (which I don't think he does much work on, but I could be wrong as he's shown in studio daily). Let's Dish This show has Chris Koetke who is not only a chef but is an instructor at Kendall College? He seems to be the "Emeril" of the network in that he has not only a normal show with no audience but a live show with an audience. I think his guests in his audience are mostly his students. Mexico: One Plate at a Time I've mentioned this before in here but this is the same show from PBS with Rick Bayless. He does Mexican food, can be slightly creepy with his super quiet whispery voice while talking about food. But, honestly, if I had to cook a Mexican dish or otherwise, I'd go to his recipes (sorry Alton, his nachos are better than yours  ). I've made his Roadside Chicken and it's loving amazing.Steven and Chris This isn't a food-based show (more like a talk show type deal), but it has a food segment sometimes. Nadia G has cooked on this show before and the host from the show I'm gonna talk about next has cooked here too. It's not much of a food show, but it's got more food than most things I've seen on FN lately. Best Recipes Ever This one is one of the new ones and "Food Rush" premiered at the same time this one did. This show stars Kary Osmond and she mostly cooks foods for parties. She seems to be from Canada so I think some Canadians here may know of her more. She never tastes her food. She also has a different way she does her show. She'll show how to get a recipe started, put it in the oven/pan, then immediately move over to the finished product already complete and plated. Not a bad show but I wish she'd taste something sometime. LWN has clips and full episodes of not only the shows I mentioned here, but all of their shows. If you can't get the channel where you are (it's a digital channel and you may or may not get it for free), just check some episodes out here.: http://livewellnetwork.com/index LWN is pretty much my go to place since FN seems to be competitions from 6PM all the way down. Plus, none of the personalities on the network have changed to be cartoonish husks of their former selves like some people on FN tend to be (like Guy...or Rachel Ray...I used to love Rachel's show when it was first on...). e: Sorry if this is all in the wrong spot, I'll move it if need be. I haven't seen a LWN thread though.
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In regard to if Worst cooks is fake I think there are plenty of possibilities: A) It's all fake and all the worst cooks are just actors. B) Faking being a bad cook is something people figure would be easy and see it as their chance to get on television. Desperate actors/comedians are very likely to be in the group of people willing to do anything to get on television. These people alos know that they have to be playing a character to get noticed. C) Some of these people are actors AND they are terrible cooks. I think all three of these can be true to a degree and you can mix and match elements with some of the contestants. All of these shows are faked to some degree. Even the most genuine feel very foced from time to time and at least manipulate editing for the narrative they want. There are people that they showed that were also clearly faking being bad cooks. When they were showing the people in the auditions there was a woman who claimed to love dog food. When she went to try her own dish made with dog food she could not hide her disgust. She did not make it onto the show. In the end it doesn't matter. It's bad television. Even if it's 100% real with the way they put it together it would all look fake anyways.
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The "frat boy" guy has actually been on other reality shows before so he's a confirmed actor. Both Rasheeda and Dr Bob claim to not be actors (according to their comments on one of the reviews posted here). Rasheeda claims that the whole spiel about cooking to find a man is made up for television and she really just wanted to learn to cook. Dr Bob doesn't seem to understand how the internet works and got upset at the review (which called him fake as well). But he claims he wasn't faking anything.
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