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Darkrenown posted:True, or we could slap "BETA SCREENSHOT - NOT FINAL" over everything, I thought people could be trusted to realise this and not waste time on it though. I think everyone here DOES realize it.  Mocking paradox engrish is a long running, light hearted thread tradition stretching back years. It wouldn't change even if you all became Shakespeare overnight.Getting worked up over it is just going to stress you for no reason.
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Is there any sort of formula that determines the success of your war justifications in VII, or is it just random?
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Feb 22, 2013 17:57
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Darkrenown you should get your posts proof-read by Paradox PR because you're horrible at posting If you were in a less Paradox-loving thread you'd be doing damage to your company with your lovely attitude
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Feb 22, 2013 18:01
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Bold Robot posted:I really really want EvW to be good, but seeing things like this makes me think that they're going down the HoI3 route of adding un-fun levels of detail. Yeah, sadly, I suspect it will be a mess. I think it's a hard period to do, and the best way would probably be to pull back and make it a bit higher level and more abstract. Going down the crazy detail route just isn't going to end well. Despite what a lot(!) of developers and players seem to think it doesn't actually make the game or the RESULTS of the 'simulation' more accurate, it just gives the IMPRESSION that it could be.
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Feb 22, 2013 18:15
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Fintilgin posted:I think everyone here DOES realize it. If they did become Shakespeare overnight, it would be one more reason to mock their spelling. 
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Feb 22, 2013 18:21
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Patter Song posted:If they did become Shakespeare overnight, it would be one more reason to mock their spelling. Point to Patter Song.
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Cowcatcher posted:Darkrenown you should get your posts proof-read by Paradox PR because you're horrible at posting Also, the overly sensitive flame war posting style frankly fits in very well in this thread.
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Feb 22, 2013 18:29
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Fintilgin posted:Yeah, sadly, I suspect it will be a mess. I think it's a hard period to do, and the best way would probably be to pull back and make it a bit higher level and more abstract. Going down the crazy detail route just isn't going to end well. Despite what a lot(!) of developers and players seem to think it doesn't actually make the game or the RESULTS of the 'simulation' more accurate, it just gives the IMPRESSION that it could be. I was always iffy about the possibility of a good Cold War game to begin with - the complexities involved in modeling even one aspect of the Cold War is plenty to fuel any one game, let alone the whole shebang. East vs West just doesn't seem to be headed in the right direction to soothe those fears. This much detail on the military seems fitting for a war game, but a game that treats the Cold War like a war game isn't a game about the Cold War at all, it's a game about WW3. Speaking of which, did anyone actually buy Supreme Ruler: Cold War? I remember trying the demo and thinking that it suffered from the exact same wargaming focus in a setting where the focus should be on the tightrope of diplomacy, politics and intrigue.
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Feb 22, 2013 18:32
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esquilax posted:I, for one, love how accessible the paradox devs are, and that we get actual responses instead of 'we appreciate your concern, Paradox Interactive strives to give the best gaming experience available.' Yeah, I actually prefer how you guys actually talk to people as people, instead of as some weird corporate blob. It makes the thread really fun :3
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Feb 22, 2013 18:36
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This was interesting: http://www.gamereactor.eu/news/65151/GRTV%3A+Crusader+Kings+Interview/ I hadn't seen it mentioned that technology was getting an overhaul in the Old Gods. Sounds good, the current system is very similar to the one in CK1 and, well... equally boring. Also funny, because it looks like that video is using really, really, really old pre-release footage of the game, before the current portrait system went in. Also, Johan hurt his hand.  Tomn posted:Speaking of which, did anyone actually buy Supreme Ruler: Cold War? I remember trying the demo and thinking that it suffered from the exact same wargaming focus in a setting where the focus should be on the tightrope of diplomacy, politics and intrigue. Never tried it, but it looked like another one where the developers mistook INSANE DETAIL AND COMPLEXITY for realism and fun.
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esquilax posted:I, for one, love how accessible the paradox devs are, and that we get actual responses instead of 'we appreciate your concern, Paradox Interactive strives to give the best gaming experience available.' Sampatrick posted:Yeah, I actually prefer how you guys actually talk to people as people, instead of as some weird corporate blob. It makes the thread really fun :3 There's talking like people, and there's talking like goons. Don't go native, man.
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Yeah it's possible to be "human" and not get indignant over every little joke.
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Fintilgin posted:Never tried it, but it looked like another one where the developers mistook INSANE DETAIL AND COMPLEXITY for realism and fun. I bought and tried to play it a few times, and this is pretty much right. I had no loving idea what was going on, there was way too much territory to manage, and I had no idea what buildings did what. A tutorial would've been very, very useful for it. EvW may be misdirected, but at least it looks like it'll avoid those pitfalls.
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Tomn posted:Speaking of which, did anyone actually buy Supreme Ruler: Cold War? I bought it, stared at the incomprehensibility of the UI for all of 5 minutes, then promptly turned it off and went back to Victoria. I may not be able to control as much as I want to in the latter game, but damnit, at least I know how!
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Feb 22, 2013 19:31
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Anyone else who was at the fan gathering yesterday? Great fun to meet the devs. I ran into Wiz as well. I really want to get stomped in Paradox games again but sadly I have exams. I got to give the Paradox guys a lot of credit though. Not a lot of developers let us sweaty nerds into their offices for free stuff, beer and food. Also I'm pretty sure I know Darkrenown since I do recall a dev saying he was put on probation not too long ago.
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esquilax posted:I, for one, love how accessible the paradox devs are, and that we get actual responses instead of 'we appreciate your concern, Paradox Interactive strives to give the best gaming experience available.' Isn't Blizzard the company that says "There's nothing wrong with our games, they're working as intended?" or am I thinking of some other sleazy company?
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JGBeagle posted:Isn't Blizzard the company that says "There's nothing wrong with our games, they're working as intended?" or am I thinking of some other sleazy company? I'm sure there are many who act that way.
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Torabi posted:Anyone else who was at the fan gathering yesterday? Great fun to meet the devs. I ran into Wiz as well. It was fun. Because I was the last person from PDS to leave, I also ended up recieving a bottle of gin to give to the rest of PDS, I figure we'll drink it at next Friday beers. You're that guy Johan, right?
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Cowcatcher posted:Darkrenown you should get your posts proof-read by Paradox PR because you're horrible at posting We like darkrenown with AA guns attached 
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JGBeagle posted:Isn't Blizzard the company that says "There's nothing wrong with our games, they're working as intended?" or am I thinking of some other sleazy company?
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Wiz posted:It was fun. Because I was the last person from PDS to leave, I also ended up recieving a bottle of gin to give to the rest of PDS, I figure we'll drink it at next Friday beers. Ah yes. Just change Johan to Toby. Remember? Or well Toby-Johan was the closest thing you managed to remember. I need to get Platnium to remind you on a bi-annual basis. gradenko_2000 posted:I bought it, stared at the incomprehensibility of the UI for all of 5 minutes, then promptly turned it off and went back to Victoria. I may not be able to control as much as I want to in the latter game, but damnit, at least I know how! Sounds like my first year with Hearts of Iron 3. I met the new guy who was in charge of User experience and tutorials last night too so I'm hoping that the games will be more accessible in the future. Without having to prepare yourself mentally two weeks prior. But then again, it might just be me being extra slow when it comes to Paradox games.
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Sindai posted:You must be thinking of someone else because Blizzard patches all their games almost forever.
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Cowcatcher posted:Darkrenown you should get your posts proof-read by Paradox PR because you're horrible at posting Yeah, well, when you become King of the thread you can tell me how to post, and when you make a game you can decide how to react to what you think is unfair criticism of it. I'm sorry if I'm impinging on some people's imagined right to poo poo on other people's work and never be called on it, but I didn't give up my right to disagree with people when I started working for a games company. I don't see what's unreasonable about about pointing out we had nothing to do with IC's text, that the pictures don't show the final product, and that's it's pretty unfair to mock the English skills of non native speakers in them. If I misread a joke it's not hard to say so and I can say sorry instead of arguing the point further which prompts me to respond. Although I've already said I thought this derail was silly [and that I'd like to drop the argument], so perhaps we can let this rest now?
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Torabi posted:Anyone else who was at the fan gathering yesterday? Great fun to meet the devs. I ran into Wiz as well. I don't think I told anyone that, perhaps it was Podcat? Who knows though, I was pretty drunk.
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It was definitely podcat, I remember him talking about his probation. Darkrenown was upstairs temping for the leopard we were supposed to have guarding the publishing wing.
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Darkrenown posted:I don't think I told anyone that, perhaps it was Podcat? Who knows though, I was pretty drunk. Wiz posted:It was definitely podcat, I remember him talking about his probation. Darkrenown was upstairs temping for the leopard we were supposed to have guarding the publishing wing. I forgot his name but I think it was David? Working on the HOI games.
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Edit: Nevermind. I'll stay out of it.
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Feb 22, 2013 20:48
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What was the wall paper like at this party?! Inquiring minds would like to know.
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a bad enough dude posted:Well that just made me super worried about EvW being obsessed with hot war over cold war... Koesj posted:Read the dev diary. As a sub-system of the game it sounds pretty awesome to me but I guess it doesn't bode well for its overall accessibility and design priorities. Koesj posted:Conflicts like Vietnam or Afghanistan could be entirely handled by an interplay of suppression/attrition/dissent modifiers in EvW. Make it so that the occupying country has to invest in beefing up suppression at the cost of 'warfighting' capability for his divisions (or whatever unit scale) and use policies to influence local effects. More Balance of Power, less HoI3 'single militia brigade gets lazily crushed by your 1938 binary cavalry division'.
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Feb 22, 2013 21:07
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So, has any definite how-to-win LP emerged for MotE already?
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Baloogan posted:What was the wall paper like at this party?! Fake books and Aztec fleets as far as the eye could see. There should be some pictures up on Facebook. I'm in one or two of them. Wiz fucked around with this message at 21:18 on Feb 22, 2013 |
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Littlefinger posted:So, has any definite how-to-win LP emerged for MotE already? The game has been out for 4 goddamn days
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I'm sorry you felt unduly got at, darkrenown. I was just trying to say that I find such errors unprofessional and a little funny, even from a foreign-speaking company. The quality of the product is here nor there. I didn't expect it to turn into a "thing", the fact you're reacting so harshly to it gets me pretty down. I'm definitely not "making GBS threads on" the product, I'm making a single critical remark about a single feature that we're getting a preview of. Please chill out. We still don't have a release date for HoD, right?
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Noreaus posted:I'm sorry you felt unduly got at, darkrenown. I was just trying to say that I find such errors unprofessional and a little funny, even from a foreign-speaking company. The quality of the product is here nor there. I didn't expect it to turn into a "thing", the fact you're reacting so harshly to it gets me pretty down. I'm definitely not "making GBS threads on" the product, I'm making a single critical remark about a single feature that we're getting a preview of. Q1 2013, no exact date announced.
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Noreaus posted:I'm sorry you felt unduly got at, darkrenown. I was just trying to say that I find such errors unprofessional and a little funny, even from a foreign-speaking company. The quality of the product is here nor there. I didn't expect it to turn into a "thing", the fact you're reacting so harshly to it gets me pretty down. I'm definitely not "making GBS threads on" the product, I'm making a single critical remark about a single feature that we're getting a preview of. I tried man. I tried. \/ \/
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Man MotE is accessible as heck. I don't know what more they could have done other than shipping a Paradox dev to my house and having him sit with me. I would have liked to a see a short 'player's guide' that talks a bit more about high level strategies and such but that's really just me being greedy at this point.
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Torabi posted:I forgot his name but I think it was David? Working on the HOI games. Huh, that sure sounds like me. How odd Baloogan posted:What was the wall paper like at this party?! You can watch it here! http://en.twitch.tv/paradoxinteractive/b/369776891 Walls are a pretty dull white for the most part though. Noreaus posted:Please chill out. I'm not unchilled, and I don't want this to be a thing, I've twice said let's drop it, but people keep coming back to it. I'm not angry at you, and I didn't particularly mean to direct the "making GBS threads on" comment at you, only at the poster I was replying to. Darkrenown fucked around with this message at 21:54 on Feb 22, 2013 |
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orphean posted:Man MotE is accessible as heck. I don't know what more they could have done other than shipping a Paradox dev to my house and having him sit with me. I like all the little question marks. Initially I thought they were going to annoy the HELL out of me but drat paradox please make the little questionmarks standard.
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CharlestheHammer posted:I originally didn't care about the spelling thing, but watching it piss Dark off so much and watching him bitch about it makes it really, really funny.  *edit* Does Paradox Plaza still filter have somethingawful.com in the profanity filter? Wolfgang Pauli fucked around with this message at 21:38 on Feb 22, 2013 |
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