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Smasher Dynamo
Oct 16, 2008

Eternal Commissioner of the Super League. A new avatar. A new age, of the same old embittered Smasher that failed to escape the bonds of the SL, FM3, Johnny Hopp and Eri Yoshida "The Knuckle Princess". "The flames of Smasher's ire scorch the skies... Igniting St. Bellhorn's funeral pyre."
The Pandas take Kevin Brown '96.

The Lovable Losers take Mark McGwire '89

gingemidget is now on the clock.

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Ginge
Sep 8, 2011

Well, Chippy is already my favourite character!
The Walney Rakers take 1997 Kevin Brown with the thirty seventh pick.

Next on the clock is Mooseontheloose.

ScottyJSno
Aug 16, 2010

日本が大好きです!

NotThatSamBeckett posted:

We have Tulo, so are willing to move him to a shortstop-bereft org.


What do you want?

I got a Mark Grace?

Mooseontheloose
May 13, 2003


The The Harvard, we are also a town, Elites pick Stephen Strasburg 2012 variety.

and now that I have ruined his day Gricklegrass is on the clock!

GrickleGrass
Dec 18, 2011

I speak for the trees.


I totally didn't even want Strasburg, anyway, so there! Have fun changing his diapers.

I flipped a coin. Tails never fails, but in this case it did so sorry Eck, but the loonie has picked Smoltz.

The Montreal Manatees allow the loonie to pick John Smoltz ('04).

Armitage
Aug 16, 2005

"Mathman's not here." "Oh? Where is he?" "He's in the Mathroom."
Shoot, I had a dream of a rotation with three Kevin Browns!

Anyway, the Jobbers still have '08 Carlos Beltran or '93 Gary Sheffield for either an upcoming pick or a catcher. Like I said last night, Sheff'll be a little pricier than Beltran.

Smasher Dynamo
Oct 16, 2008

Eternal Commissioner of the Super League. A new avatar. A new age, of the same old embittered Smasher that failed to escape the bonds of the SL, FM3, Johnny Hopp and Eri Yoshida "The Knuckle Princess". "The flames of Smasher's ire scorch the skies... Igniting St. Bellhorn's funeral pyre."


In an unprecedented move, the Oxford and Cambridge Mathematics Departments have come together in order to use their best-in-the world maths abilities to create the best Super-League team ever!

Owner: Revenant Threshold
Location: Milton Keynes, UK
Home Grounds: The Quadrangle

Teams Used
1911 Brooklyn Robins
1940 Pittsburgh Pirates
1993 Atlanta Braves
2001 Chicago White Sox

Past Records
Expansion Cup VI
They definitely competed!
Super-League VII
87-75, 2nd Place, Norris-Smythe Division
Super-League VIII
83-79, 3rd Place, Norris-Smythe Division, Gauntletted
Gauntlet VII
Round 8: 19-21, 3rd Place, Relegated

Championship History
3x Television Champions


Intro to Super-League Studies
SL 110
Prof. Dynamo
February 21st, 2013


Math and Glory: The Rise and Fall of the Oxbridge Mathematicians


Throughout history, many people have wondered why some teams have succeeded and others failed in the Super-League. The focus of this paper will be to examine why the Oxbridge Mathematicians, despite posting winning records in both of their seasons at the Super-League, were ultimately relegated due to their own deficiencies as a team. The three most important of these deficiencies were: 1. Their lack of quality hitters, 2. Mismanagement of their pitching rotation, and 3. The Curse of Richard II. Ultimately, while the bad pitching and hitting certainly hurt the Mathematicians, it was the curse that killed the Mathematicians' chances of survival.

The hitting of the Mathematicians was in a constant state of flux, but was never very good. From the start, it was clear that the Mathematicians' hitters were less than ideal. Consider that the Mathematicians used two Jack Clarks on their roster in both seasons they played in the Super-League.1 Jack Clark, for all of his skills, was still merely an above average bat rather than a truly transcendent player, and as he played at a relatively easy position, the fact that Revenant Threshold could do no better than multiple Clarks did limit the upside of his offense. As The Merry Marauder put it, "To me, Jack Clark is little better than a #1 poker chip to be used as a bonus to lure better players out of the undiscriminating owner.2 However, this use, or misuse, of Jack Clarks was only symptomatic of larger problems with the Mathematicians offense.

It is a fact that, during the Mathematicians' final Gauntlet run, Revenant Threshold chose to use Al Oliver, about whom a long-term league owner once said, "I would rather be eaten by a dozen sharks than use Al Oliver in my teams lineup," at first base.3 While there may be some circumstance where such a maneuver might make sense, in this case, there was no good reason to put such a weak bat at a position so geared to sluggers. Either Mike Sweeney or, more intriguingly, Joey Votto, would have provided more offense than Al Oliver, yet both remained in the minors, far away from any position where they could have helped the Mathematicians survive.

Even worse, Miguel Cabrera, who, in a perfect world, would have anchored the lineup, proved a disappointment. In the final round of the Gauntlet, after which the Mathematicians were relegated, Miguel Cabrera could manage no better than an OBP of .195.4 Granted, this was an exceptionally poor round and was likely the result of a small sample size more than anything else, but Cabrera's performance in the regular season had not been much better.5 Ultimately, most league experts agreed that it was Cabrera's young age, as he was only 21 in that year, and that this too was an error made by Revenant Threshold.6 In sum, it is clear that there were a number of mistakes made by the Mathematicians that harmed their offense.

More damaging, though still not the likely root cause of the Mathematicians' ultimate failure, was Revenant Threshold's mismanagement of his pitching rotation. In the final version of his rotation, used in the Gauntlet where his team was defeated and thus relegated, the eleven pitchers on his active roster had combined for two Cy Young Awards, both belonging to Tim Lincecum, who remained in mop-up duty for the entirety of the round.7. There are many theories as to why Revenant Threshold hated Tim Lincecum to the extent that he decided to destroy his team rather than use Tim Lincecum. The most outlandish theory, proposed by mentholmoose, was that Revenant Threshold was, and always had been, Tim Lincecum, and, gripped by self-loathing after two straight disappointing seasons in real life, had intentionally marginalized himself.8

The other leading theory is that Revenant Threshold, being from the far off land of England, where people drove on the left, called soccer 'football', and where the entire country is ruled by an evil A.I. known only as "KAM-RON", did not understand exactly what he was doing to his team, and therefore the mistake was simply one of ignorance. This was the view taken by Revenant Threshold's countryman, gingemidget, at least.9 Whichever theory was correct, and it seems clear that it was one of those two, the net effect was that the Mathematicians did not have quite enough pitching in their rotation to carry their hitting.

However, the real cause of the Mathematicians' collapse was clearly because of an ancient curse laid by the last Plantagenet king of England, Richard II. His final words, immortalized in the play of the same name by Shakespeare, make clear that this doom was inevitable and unavoidable:

"That hand shall burn in never-quenching fire
That staggers thus my person. Exton, thy fierce hand
Hath with the king's blood stain'd the king's own land.
Mount, mount, my soul! thy seat is up on high;
Whilst my gross flesh sinks downward, here to die."

As everyone knows, Revenant Threshold was a direct descendant of Exton, and, thanks to a warlock's spell, Revenant Threshold was bonded to soul of his ancestor, thus sharing his divine punishment for killing the rightful king of England to whom he had previously sworn and oath of fealty.10 The effects of this treachery, having echoed through the ages in the physical world, most notably changing the dynastic history of England, came crashing down on upon him, destroying his team utterly, in a story that would have made for a good Shakespearean tragedy were the Bard alive, or if KAM-RON's project to clone Shakespeare not ended in a bloodbath outside of Leeds.11

Still, no matter what happened, the net effect was that they simply where not good enough to survive, and therefore died, causing them to be relegating and not being in the Super-League anymore because they had been relegated because they were not quite good enough. That was unfortunate, as by being relegated, they were no longer in the Super-League. On the positive side, at least they could not be relegated after Super-League IX. And that was bad. In conclusion, it may never be known why the Mathematicians failed but, whatever the reason, it will remain mysterious going forward.

1Dynamo, S. (2012). Smasher League Report: Week 17. Super-League VIII, 65-68.
2Marauder, T.M. (2012). My Life of Greatness: Thoughts from the Best Super-League Owner That Ever Was. Fukuoka, Japan: Super-League Press.
3Koop, C.E. (2012). Smasher League Preview, Super-League VI. The Koop Report, 6, 17. Ironically, Koop was later forced out of the the Super-League after being defeated in a "Loser Leaves Town" Match against the Newport Sharks. Although, to be fair, there is no evidence that he was actually eaten by Successful Student's team.
4Dynamo, S. (2013). Gauntlet Report: Round 8. Gauntlet Reports, 7, 14-15.
5Dynamo, S. (2013). Smasher League Report: Week 13. Super-League VIII, 44-47
6Sadness, T.O. (2012) I Will Devour Your Teams Whole: The Rockford Losers' Super-League VIII Preview. Rockford, Hell: Rowan McMillan Publishing.
7Wikipedia, dude.
8Moose, M. (2013). Drugs, Drugs, and More Drugs: The True History of the Philadelphia Failures. Somewhere in Vermont: Mountain Man Press.
9Midget, G. (2012). My View From the Olde World. Super-League Reports, 13, 99-101. Incidentally, gingemidget was later purged by KAM-RON in the Great Heresy.
10This source totally exists....somewhere.
11This was before Leeds was eaten by the Kraken.

By Marduk, bringer of thunder and keeper of the Tablets of Destiny, I hereby swear this paper complies with the Super-League Honor Code and represents original work.


C-, This essay shows a dramatic lack of effort and appears to have be written in about thirty minutes after little or no research. I am very disappointed in you. See me after class. S.D.

cbx
Dec 4, 2007

Smasher Dynamo's assistant of the Super-League.
At least you referenced your material correctly. I'd have given at least a B-. drat elitist professors.

E: Grinnblade, you and the Taters are on the clock.

cbx fucked around with this message at 05:03 on Feb 22, 2013

ScottyJSno
Aug 16, 2010

日本が大好きです!
Mark Grace '89 is for Sale. I need SS or 3B.

Viscount Slim
Mar 9, 2012

Armitage posted:

Anyway, the Jobbers still have '08 Carlos Beltran or '93 Gary Sheffield for either an upcoming pick or a catcher. Like I said last night, Sheff'll be a little pricier than Beltran.

'75 Darrell Porter for Beltran? Porter was .260/.344/12 HR in a platoon for me in SL VII. All my hitting sucked last year. :( Solid defense, too. 11.6 DRAA, says Mogul.

ScottyJSno
Aug 16, 2010

日本が大好きです!
Also for sale is a 1945 Paul Derringer (Career) ERA+ 108 and WAR 37.0 Looking for RP.

Armitage
Aug 16, 2005

"Mathman's not here." "Oh? Where is he?" "He's in the Mathroom."

Viscount Slim posted:

'75 Darrell Porter for Beltran? Porter was .260/.344/12 HR in a platoon for me in SL VII. All my hitting sucked last year. :( Solid defense, too. 11.6 DRAA, says Mogul.

I could do that! If that's okay with you of course, the trade would be:

Burma Imperialists send

1975 Darrell Porter

Jacksonville Jobbers send

2008 Carlos Beltran

Viscount Slim
Mar 9, 2012

Armitage posted:

I could do that! If that's okay with you of course, the trade would be:

Burma Imperialists send

1975 Darrell Porter

Jacksonville Jobbers send

2008 Carlos Beltran

It is, 'ow you say, a deal.

Pete Ladd
Mar 9, 2012

ScottyJSno posted:

Also for sale is a 1945 Paul Derringer (Career) ERA+ 108 and WAR 37.0 Looking for RP.


This deal's still available if you're selling Cavaretta.

Armitage
Aug 16, 2005

"Mathman's not here." "Oh? Where is he?" "He's in the Mathroom."

Viscount Slim posted:

It is, 'ow you say, a deal.

Sweet! I love boondoggles.

At least I can finally ship Schneider off to development, or call in Benito Santiago for emergencies.

Revenant Threshold
Jan 1, 2008
Well, you've brought back horrible memories of referencing style guide changes for my dissertation, so in terms of spreading the pain, A+.

Mooseontheloose
May 13, 2003
just as a reminder Grinnblade is on the clock.

Senerio
Oct 19, 2009

Roëmænce is ælive!
Actually based on the time, Grinnblade is skipped and gingemidget is on the clock.

Ginge
Sep 8, 2011

Well, Chippy is already my favourite character!

Senerio posted:

Actually based on the time, Grinnblade is skipped and gingemidget is on the clock.

And with this selection, the Rakers select 2011 Cliff Lee.

Armitage is on the clock.

Armitage
Aug 16, 2005

"Mathman's not here." "Oh? Where is he?" "He's in the Mathroom."
I think '84 Dennis Eckersly would not mind getting drafted by the Jacksonville Jobbers.

Your move CVE! (Or Grinnblade)

Armitage fucked around with this message at 19:29 on Feb 22, 2013

Grinnblade
Sep 24, 2007
You try getting online with a computer where half the keyboard doesn't work, goddamnit!

Edit: this post brought to you by a combination of windows speech recognition and the onscreen keyboard. :suicide:

Grinnblade fucked around with this message at 18:58 on Feb 22, 2013

The Merry Marauder
Apr 4, 2009

"But she goes not abroad, in search of monsters to destroy. She is the well-wisher to the freedom and independence of all. She is the champion and vindicator only of her own."
If you can't research the pick, I advise you to nominate a second.

cbx
Dec 4, 2007

Smasher Dynamo's assistant of the Super-League.
Currently, myself and Senerio are active in IRC, and I believe we both have the draft page open.

CVE
Jan 27, 2012


The Million Dollar Men draft with their 3rd round Dispersal Draft Pick and 43 overall pick '70 Thurman Munson

Gabriel Pope and the Omaha Forgettables are on the clock.

CVE fucked around with this message at 19:37 on Feb 22, 2013

the holy poopacy
May 16, 2009

hey! check this out
Fun Shoe


More relief pitching Smoky Burgess '64.

Senerio's up.

Mooseontheloose
May 13, 2003
Spreadsheet: http://tinyurl.com/EC8Dispersal

Grinnblade
Sep 24, 2007
The first person to post a valid pick when it is time for my pick wins.

Paul Zuvella
Dec 7, 2011

Grinnblade posted:

The first person to post a valid pick when it is time for my pick wins.

You can pick whenever you want.

Also you want JEFF KENT

The Merry Marauder
Apr 4, 2009

"But she goes not abroad, in search of monsters to destroy. She is the well-wisher to the freedom and independence of all. She is the champion and vindicator only of her own."
Invalid. What year?

Grinnblade posted:

The first person to post a valid pick when it is time for my pick wins.

The Potatoes draft 2004 Miguel Tejada.

I imagine moving him to third base.

cbx
Dec 4, 2007

Smasher Dynamo's assistant of the Super-League.
As per Senerio's preferences posted in the draft document, the Mercuries take:

2000 Robb Nen


theacox, you and the Colliders are on the clock.

theacox
Jun 8, 2010

You can't be serious.


Oh God OH GOD ITS RP MADNESS TIME IN THIS DRAFT :supaburn:

Robb Nen '97

cbx, you're up

cbx
Dec 4, 2007

Smasher Dynamo's assistant of the Super-League.


With the concluding pick of the 3rd round, the Detroit Cougars select:



1951 Del Ennis

CVE
Jan 27, 2012


With the first pick of the 4th round and the 49th overall pick the Million Dollar Men draft Roberto Clemente '64

ScottyJSno and the Lovable Losers are on the clock.

Monathin
Sep 1, 2011

?????????
?

ScottyJSno posted:

Mark Grace '89 is for Sale. I need SS or 3B.

I might have some pieces you might be looking for. I'm also maybe looking to maybe get you pick in the deal and let you keep young Grace. Want to hit me up on IRC (#thesuperleague on irc.synirc.com) or in PM? saw you don't have PMs, nevermind on that front. Still available on IRC though.

Monathin fucked around with this message at 22:36 on Feb 22, 2013

Pander
Oct 9, 2007

Fear is the glue that holds society together. It's what makes people suppress their worst impulses. Fear is power.

And at the end of fear, oblivion.



:siren:Trade Proposal:siren:

Sad Pandas give to Miami Manatees of Montreal
#52 pick in Dispersal Draft

Sad Pandas receive from Manatees of M-town
2011 Jim Johnson
#66 pick in Dispersal Draft

GrickleGrass
Dec 18, 2011

I speak for the trees.

Pander posted:

:siren:Trade Proposal:siren:

Sad Pandas give to Miami Manatees of Montreal
#52 pick in Dispersal Draft

Sad Pandas receive from Manatees of M-town
2011 Jim Johnson
#66 pick in Dispersal Draft

Montreal Manatees of Miami accept!

ScottyJSno
Aug 16, 2010

日本が大好きです!
Ichiro

Viscount Slim is on the clock

Smasher Dynamo
Oct 16, 2008

Eternal Commissioner of the Super League. A new avatar. A new age, of the same old embittered Smasher that failed to escape the bonds of the SL, FM3, Johnny Hopp and Eri Yoshida "The Knuckle Princess". "The flames of Smasher's ire scorch the skies... Igniting St. Bellhorn's funeral pyre."
Sometime, a team, for whatever reason, doesn't work out, and dies before it even reaches the Super-League. And while most of these teams are forgotten, let this post stand as an eternal memorial to the stillborn teams of the Super-League.





cbx
Dec 4, 2007

Smasher Dynamo's assistant of the Super-League.
Viscount Slim, You're still on the clock, and you have a little over 6 hours to make your pick. Just so ya know.

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ScottyJSno
Aug 16, 2010

日本が大好きです!

Monathin posted:

I might have some pieces you might be looking for. I'm also maybe looking to maybe get you pick in the deal and let you keep young Grace. Want to hit me up on IRC (#thesuperleague on irc.synirc.com) or in PM? saw you don't have PMs, nevermind on that front. Still available on IRC though.

Sorry about missing you on IRC. I want to hear what you have in mind but you probably wanted my last pick. I live in Japan and being around when every one in the USA is awake is hard. I plan on buying the account upgrade this week for the PMs.

To recap for anyone else. I need SS 3B and RP. And maybe starting pitching if it is good enough.

On the trading block is:
'45 Phil Cavarretta- Lefty 1B .293/.372/.416
or if you have more to offer
'89 Mark Grace- Lefty 1B .303/.383/.442

'45 Paul Derringer- Righty SP Career ERA+ 108 Career ERA 3.46
'02 Garret Anderson- Lefty LF .296/.327/.469
'02 Adam Kennedy- Lefty 2B .277/.331/.396 Defensive IF Specialist
'02 John Lackey - SP Righty ERA+ 107 S0/9 = 7.0

ScottyJSno fucked around with this message at 10:47 on Feb 23, 2013

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