The voice actors are going to have to be really amazing to nail Ray & Beef Chat, should be interesting. I'm excited, this came outta nowhere 
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I don't know how everyone else has it in their head, but to me Ray has always been Carey Means and sounds roughly like Frylock. can't help it, that's just how it's gone for me.
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Feb 25, 2013 19:52
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Cautiously optimistic, but I feel like it's going to be really hard to translate.
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Feb 25, 2013 19:54
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Telex posted:I don't know how everyone else has it in their head, but to me Ray has always been Carey Means and sounds roughly like Frylock. YES. I have always heard Ray as Frylock and Beef as Meatwad.
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Feb 25, 2013 20:14
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Javid posted:Beef as Meatwad. 
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Feb 25, 2013 20:16
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tehloki posted:This is how I know achewood fans are good people. Nobody running around in circles tearing their hair out yelling about how the notion of an animated series virtually defecates I say DEFECATES upon the pristine canonical source material (of course this meaning only select archives up to and not including the following "shunned" years, etc). Just eager speculation and positivity and enthusiasm. I think this thing looks great and I look forward to watching it wherever it ends up! Because Onstad is heavily involved. If he wasn't I'm sure we'd see that behavior.
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Feb 25, 2013 20:28
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Man I was absolutely giddy when I read this news last night, and I severely hope this gets made. I'm not too worried about any of the voices but Philippe. Like, there are a lot of talented voice people and comedians who can pull off most of the voices (fingers crossed for Jon Benjamin and David Cross as Ray and Pat, respectively) but it might be tough to really nail Philippe! I'm sure they'l get it, but, still!
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Feb 25, 2013 20:36
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Maduo posted:EDIT: if someone would be so kind, I would kill for a gif of that gothic dance. 
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Feb 25, 2013 20:49
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FunkyAl posted:Man I was absolutely giddy when I read this news last night, and I severely hope this gets made. I'm not too worried about any of the voices but Philippe. Like, there are a lot of talented voice people and comedians who can pull off most of the voices (fingers crossed for Jon Benjamin and David Cross as Ray and Pat, respectively) but it might be tough to really nail Philippe! I'm sure they'l get it, but, still! Personally, I'm hoping David Cross stays the hell away from this, but Jay Johnston as Lie Bot would be phenomenal.
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Feb 25, 2013 21:17
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Darthemed posted:Personally, I'm hoping David Cross stays the hell away from this, but Jay Johnston as Lie Bot would be phenomenal. I'd think David Cross would actually be an excellent Pat. He can come across as a big enough douchebag to pull it off spectacularly.
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Feb 25, 2013 21:22
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See, I think Philipe would be one of the easier voices to cast. Many voice actors have done at least a few aloof, whimsical or naive young characters at some point. Cornelius and Lyle probably won't be challenging to cast either. Roast Beef seems he would definitely be the toughest. There is a lot to him. Ray right behind him. Though I must admit when I first started reading Achewood I sometimes imagined Ray as Big Smoke from GTA San Andreas. Edit: John DiMaggio could potentially pull of a good Ray. Rob Paulsen as Todd could work too. Foppish Yet Dashing fucked around with this message at 21:46 on Feb 25, 2013 |
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Feb 25, 2013 21:43
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I like how many channels people are saying would be likely to air this. Even just two years ago I think I'd only be able to say Adult Swim and Comedy Central, but the landscape for this kind of project has widened considerably. You are a wonderful person.
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Feb 25, 2013 21:44
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Darthemed posted:Jay Johnston as Lie Bot would be phenomenal. Oh dear god that would be magnificent. Tom Kenny would also be good as Todd.
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Feb 25, 2013 21:51
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Satorr posted:Cornelius and Lyle probably won't be challenging to cast either. Bobcat Goldthwait ain't doin much rightnow. I think he'd be an okay Lyle.
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Feb 25, 2013 22:03
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I will be astonished if we hear anything else from him in months, let alone the show even having a pilot. Real networks will not just wait for Onstad the next time he has a meltdown and goes into hermit mode.
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Feb 25, 2013 22:04
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I'd like to hear Gary Anthony Williams as Beef. His Uncle Ruckus voice, down a half octave or so and mumblier would be almost exactly how I picture Beef sounding.
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Feb 25, 2013 22:05
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WoodrowSkillson posted:I will be astonished if we hear anything else from him in months, let alone the show even having a pilot. Real networks will not just wait for Onstad the next time he has a meltdown and goes into hermit mode. I have high hopes, but this is roughly what I expect to actually happen.
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Feb 25, 2013 22:06
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Loving Life Partner posted:The voice actors are going to have to be really amazing to nail Ray & Beef Chat, should be interesting. I'm excited, this came outta nowhere It's not the acting that is at issue, though. It's all about the casting. ManiacClown posted:I'd think David Cross would actually be an excellent Pat. He can come across as a big enough douchebag to pull it off spectacularly. ...oh man, that is really good.
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Feb 25, 2013 22:34
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WoodrowSkillson posted:I will be astonished if we hear anything else from him in months, let alone the show even having a pilot. Real networks will not just wait for Onstad the next time he has a meltdown and goes into hermit mode. yeah, so they're not buying Onstad. They're buying Achewood. The rights to make your own show pretty much go in the can very quickly when you sign papers. If he puts up a fuss, they'll replace him or just shitcan the show and move on. Happens all the time.
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Feb 25, 2013 22:35
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Time for more posting our favorite Achewoods. At my memorial, I want this blown up, and posted next to the picture of me on the board at the front door.
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Feb 25, 2013 22:52
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WoodrowSkillson posted:I will be astonished if we hear anything else from him in months, let alone the show even having a pilot. Real networks will not just wait for Onstad the next time he has a meltdown and goes into hermit mode. "Hermit Mode" probably consisted of Onstad working with a ton of people to nail the look of the show, writing a pitch bible, working on scripts and scenarios for the show he's putting together (the rule of thumb is to have at least one pilot script complete, and to have thirteen potential episode plots for if the show is picked up) and finally working on that nineteen second clip, which needed models and backgrounds and animation and just all sorts of stuff. Did you think this clip just appeared out of thin air or something? Do you think when you pitch a show you just show up, throw an Achewood collection on a table, and then sit back while the president of FX counts out $500,000 in bills? Do you think Onstad is the only person involved in making a TV show? Is this a real thing that you think?
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Feb 25, 2013 23:01
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I'm wondering how much time Onstad would otherwise have been putting into the comic he's been putting into the TV project the last little while. This isn't the sort of thing that appears from nowhere, and it's clear he's already got collaborators on this particular project. He did burn out once and never returned to a regular schedule afterwards, but I think people unfairly read "burnout" into the infrequency of his output since then. He has said he's made a point of turning Achewood into a hobby rather than a career like it was before his burnout. And yeah- the network would be buying Achewood, not Onstad. Every episode would have an "Achewood created by Chris Onstad" slapped onto it or something but it'd remain to be seen how hands-on an involvement he'd actually have.
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Feb 25, 2013 23:05
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I think I've said it before in this thread, but if there is a show, I hope it doesn't get the China, IL treatment. 
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Feb 25, 2013 23:07
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Satorr posted:Though I must admit when I first started reading Achewood I sometimes imagined Ray as Big Smoke from GTA San Andreas.
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Feb 25, 2013 23:09
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FunkyAl posted:"Hermit Mode" probably consisted of Onstad working with a ton of people to nail the look of the show, writing a pitch bible, working on scripts and scenarios for the show he's putting together (the rule of thumb is to have at least one pilot script complete, and to have thirteen potential episode plots for if the show is picked up) and finally working on that nineteen second clip, which needed models and backgrounds and animation and just all sorts of stuff. Did you think this clip just appeared out of thin air or something? Do you think when you pitch a show you just show up, throw an Achewood collection on a table, and then sit back while the president of FX counts out $500,000 in bills? Do you think Onstad is the only person involved in making a TV show? Is this a real thing that you think? It is very easy to think that Onstad has laid the minimal amount of groundwork and does not have the dedication or fortitude to go through with it beyond this point. The man has a hard time finishing anything he starts, and talks up some big thing every 6 months before going Howard Hughes again. I could easily see Onstad not showing up prepared enough for a pitch and being turned down. Edit: Of course tons of people are involved in making a show. This is not a show in production yet. This is an 18 second clip that could be put together by an animation student based off extant material. In order to create a show, Onstad has to convince them it is worth their time and he also has to sign away his rights in order for them to fire him and continue production with someone else. WoodrowSkillson fucked around with this message at 23:17 on Feb 25, 2013 |
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Feb 25, 2013 23:12
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Ehh..I'm cautiously optimistic; I just hope the show doesn't turn into another China, IL. Edit: beaten. But Neely's work had a lot of potential and got turned into "lol random monkeycheese" in the cartoon.
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Feb 25, 2013 23:13
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Clitch posted:Time for more posting our favorite Achewoods. Okay then, did you just see a kid?
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Feb 25, 2013 23:13
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Potential derail, but what are you guys talking about with the China, IL treatment? The change that I saw between the two was it took away the bleakness of the whole thing, centered it around the college and got rid of Babycake's friends. I guess effectively they turned some of the more serious parts and all the barely concealed abject despair into a more sitcom-y, mass audience ready show. It was still funny, it just wasn't the same thing. So as not to derail this completely, Onstad has said what we all think about ketchup. Only terrible Hanna-Barbera loving people prefer Hunts to Heinz.
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Feb 25, 2013 23:37
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Locus posted:I think I've said it before in this thread, but if there is a show, I hope it doesn't get the China, IL treatment. I'm not too familiar with Brad Neely's work beyond two or three YouTube videos I watched, but does his comic and/or YouTube videos ever have plot arcs? Trying to think of squeezing my favorite Achewood arcs into 11-minute episodes is hurting my head, but they might not have had much of a choice with China, IL. There's so much material to work with in Achewood.
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BJPaskoff posted:I'm not too familiar with Brad Neely's work beyond two or three YouTube videos I watched, but does his comic and/or YouTube videos ever have plot arcs? Trying to think of squeezing my favorite Achewood arcs into 11-minute episodes is hurting my head, but they might not have had much of a choice with China, IL. There's so much material to work with in Achewood. There was a four part proto-pilot that allows you to see how the transition kind of happened. It's a very character driven show that switches around to reveal complexities in the plot and ties it nicely together using Babycake's introspection. Something similar in the Achewood 'verse might be the dudes getting locked in a dumbwaiter and cutting between how they act and a knucklehead from old times who has to find and save them. The haunted instrument and Ray's journey through Hell would probably also make a really decent two-part episode but I'm not sure how they'd directly reference Friendly's being in Hell.
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WoodrowSkillson posted:It is very easy to think that Onstad has laid the minimal amount of groundwork and does not have the dedication or fortitude to go through with it beyond this point. The man has a hard time finishing anything he starts, and talks up some big thing every 6 months before going Howard Hughes again. I could easily see Onstad not showing up prepared enough for a pitch and being turned down. Every time a crummy nerd complains about the diminishing output in later Achewood seems to forget that he was producing this poo poo on a nigh-daily basis for almost ten years. It's not unheard of to be a little bit burnt out after producing the same thing in the same format for that long, and saying he doesn't have "dedication or fortitude" because of it seems uninformed and kinda lovely! Anyway, a favorite of mine has always been the Subway Wars. I hope we see a lot of Pat, if the show gets greenlit. Pat is best. FunkyAl fucked around with this message at 00:02 on Feb 26, 2013 |
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Feb 25, 2013 23:57
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I can't tell if I really like the style of the animated clip or I'm just happy to see new Achewood content. Either way, I can't wait to see more.Clitch posted:Time for more posting our favorite Achewoods. This is the strip I chose to be framed and autographed when that service was still offered in the shop way back when. I still think I made a good choice.
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Cloks posted:Potential derail, but what are you guys talking about with the China, IL treatment? To me, they're just two completely different shows. Like they said "Here is a really original, storytelling style and strange set of characters. It seems to rely mostly on subtle humor and seemingly mundane character interaction... so how can we turn it into a cartoon like Superjail crossed with Ugly Americans?". The soul of it is just completely gone. None of the characters are really sympathetic, at least in the episodes I watched. And where you say saw abject dispair and bleakness, I saw depth and interesting philosophy beyond the humor. To me a lot of the Baby Cakes shorts were uplifting. *edit* Also I think the art style sucks but I understand it's difficult to transition something like that to TV. *edit2* I view Onstad and Neely's humor as being somewhat similar, in the sense that the things they make are not what you expect. They're unique voices. If you said to someone: "Make a funny voiceover for all of the first Harry Potter movie", I'd expect something on the level of Seth McFarlane, or a bad attempt at MST3K style. Instead we got a loving masterpiece that stands on its own in many ways as a great piece of art. But I feel like Neely + Adult Swim = Adult Swim. Locus fucked around with this message at 00:18 on Feb 26, 2013 |
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Locus posted:
I completely agree with this. I was talking about the Professor Brothers and how they're really lovely people who are kind of oblivious to it and content to just be that way. Baby Cakes is great because his very fractured take on the world is also deep - he guides Steve through loss, understands how people have to lie to be happy and just tries to be an understanding person. If Achewood ends up on [Adult Swim], I'd love to see some sort of creator crossover with it, Jackson Publick/Doc Hammer and Brad Neely. They all deal with depression in their works and the idea of suspended adolescence as a means of interaction with the world - it'd be cool to see them bounce those ideas off of each other.
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Feb 26, 2013 00:22
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Clitch posted:Time for more posting our favorite Achewoods. In one of my favorites, Beef sums up my views on camping quite succinctly. 
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Feb 26, 2013 00:23
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I always heard Beef as a mumblier Frylock and Ray as Carl.
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Feb 26, 2013 01:35
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Maybe I'm crazy but I think Hannibal Buress would be a perfect Roast Beef.
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Feb 26, 2013 03:29
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James Franco in Spring Breakers. That's what the kind of voice I imagine Ray has. And Kelsey Grammer as Fraiser for Cornelius.
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Feb 26, 2013 03:36
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Maybe I have a distinct lack of imagination, but I always heard Ray and Beef sounding very similar to each other, but with Ray employing more traditional diction. Also dunno if this is top favorite ever, but its close: http://achewood.com/index.php?date=10172007
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NotQuiteQuentin posted:James Franco in Spring Breakers. That's what the kind of voice I imagine Ray has. And Kelsey Grammer as Fraiser for Cornelius. Kelsey's voice is a bit too low baritone for Cornelius.
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