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Vertical Lime posted:I live in the NYC area and another message board killed WABC for having infomercials on a Saturday morning when parts of the area were getting a couple of feet of snow earlier this month. They might be in even bigger trouble now that Clear Channel recently brought another talk station and everyone is assuming Rush and such are gonna move there the first chance they get. I worked at that other talk station (WOR) until the day CC officially took over in December. The way the station sale was handled was a mess from the word go...and I didn't want to work for CC anyways after hearing the horror stories from others. CC will be moving Rush over as soon as the Cumulus contract is over...but they may not get Hannity due to the way the deal was done with Citadel regarding airing the show on what was the ABC O&O's. Yeah...the DC station is sucking wind against WAMU (NPR outlet) and WTOP. Content is still king, and putting FM lipstick on a pig doesn't fix the demo issues RW talk radio has. Huckabee is doing horribly ratings wise for Cumulus, but since they distribute the show and own the bulk of the affiliate's, so long as they make a few bucks they don't care. Easier to pay a $14/hr board opp (or in most cases...just program the automation) than pay for full time talent.
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Radio Nowhere posted:Yep WMAL moved to a FM simulcast over a year ago and the ratings overall since then have gone DOWN. Maybe there's the slightest chance the demos improved but when the overall audience goes down when moving to a better signal and medium maybe they should reconsider what they're doing. There's also that you can receive a basic AM station a lot further and more consistently in a service area then FM, and I'd bet a lot of the "move the talker to FM" things end up with having less reception in the given radio market. WMAL-AM reach:   WMAL-FM reach:  Now of course, WMAL is still simulcast, so they do still have all that range. But for other stations that have moved entirely to FM, this is probably part of why they struggle even more for ratings.
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Install Gentoo posted:There's also that you can receive a basic AM station a lot further and more consistently in a service area then FM, and I'd bet a lot of the "move the talker to FM" things end up with having less reception in the given radio market. In a perfect situation you're right. But AM suffers terribly from interference indoors (electronic gadget noise) and poorer AM radios if a radio even has AM. Also ratings only matter in the home market, not if a AM signal can be picked up 100 miles away on the eastern shore (using WMAL-AM). WMAL-FM made the station easier to find and hear overall in the DC market and the ratings went down. WTOP did this, moving from a strong AM signal to FM signal, and their ratings went way up. So not a signal issue, totally programming problems. Maybe government employees don't want to listen to a station totally poo poo on them 24/7 ? Edit: 20 minutes into Limbaugh's Moo-chelle rant ... Radio Nowhere fucked around with this message at 18:22 on Feb 25, 2013 |
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Does he actually call her that? Has he SEEN her body?
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greatn posted:Does he actually call her that? Has he SEEN her body? When has facts gotten in the way of Rush or Rush's listeners?
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greatn posted:Does he actually call her that? Has he SEEN her body? One of the oddities of hard-right talk radio hosts and their listeners is that they're positively convinced that Michelle Obama is a fat, ugly woman rather than an athletic, attractive woman. She's just shy of 50 years old and a mother of two kids. Regular exercise and a sensible diet do amazing things. 
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Install Gentoo posted:There's also that you can receive a basic AM station a lot further and more consistently in a service area then FM, and I'd bet a lot of the "move the talker to FM" things end up with having less reception in the given radio market. It depends - most radios suck balls when it comes to AM reception, noise from power lines, newer traffic lights, and other electronic devices has rendered even the big 50kw blasters neutered in many major metropolitan areas. There's also the fact that many radios are FM only (especially newer portables)...and overcoming the fact that many people under 40 never even think to go to the AM band due to the lovely sound quality and awful reception due to the nub antennas on most cars, and the crappy receivers. FM can have multipath issues, but for most markets a FM will be better than a AM - especially if the pattern changes at night, or if it has co-channel interference with other stations skipping in. The issue with WMAL-FM is that it's a rimshot...kind of like WNEW-FM 99.1. It covers the market, but not as good as a station like WASH-FM. CBS Radio has begun putting it's sports franchises on FM - even with stations like 660 WFAN & 610 WIP having some of the best AM signals in their respective markets to keep the demos where they need to be for ad buys. AM is dying...guys like Rush gave it new life after all the music formats migrated to FM 20+ years ago. But even moves to FM can't save these guys in the major markets from the NPR outlets and news stations. Should be fun to watch over the next few years... Edit: Radio Nowhere beat me to it! bigtom fucked around with this message at 18:50 on Feb 25, 2013 |
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I have a chestpiece tattoo championing AM radio. What a terrible mistake 
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Zeroisanumber posted:One of the oddities of hard-right talk radio hosts and their listeners is that they're positively convinced that Michelle Obama is a fat, ugly woman rather than an athletic, attractive woman. They try to shoehorn her into the "fat loud black woman" stereotype for their racist fans.
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Zuhzuhzombie!! posted:And if their butthurt wasn't already a known understanding, I find it funny that we have 30 years of the WWE propping stories on insensitive stereotypes and it's the Bagger story line that gets the pubbies butt hurt.
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Radio Nowhere posted:In a perfect situation you're right. But AM suffers terribly from interference indoors (electronic gadget noise) and poorer AM radios if a radio even has AM. Also ratings only matter in the home market, not if a AM signal can be picked up 100 miles away on the eastern shore (using WMAL-AM). WMAL-FM made the station easier to find and hear overall in the DC market and the ratings went down. WTOP did this, moving from a strong AM signal to FM signal, and their ratings went way up. So not a signal issue, totally programming problems. Maybe government employees don't want to listen to a station totally poo poo on them 24/7 ? The other thing about WTOP was that it's former main AM signal couldn't be heard at all in Virginia (and yet I could hear it at night some 200 miles away northeast). When DC radio signals were established they weren't prepared for the population boom in the metro area they've had in recent years. Going back on topic, yep, Rush didn't disappoint.
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I just heard I don't give a poo poo where the product is made, but the spin came off as if he were pushing John Deere or something to that effect.
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Guilty Spork posted:Oh, absolutely. The WWE had a giant storyline/stable making fun of the PTC as revenge for the ridiculous number of FCC complaints, they've done every ethnic stereotype imaginable, they've done some really phenomenally sexist stuff now and then, and there have been some storylines (like that one necrophilia angle) that even hardcore wrestling fans totally hated. But apparently making fun of poor people, rich people, black people, Japanese people, Mexicans, fat people, little people, the Irish, and women is fine, but mocking the tea party is where it went over the line. It really stings when you're the target of mockery or discrimination, but sadly, I feel like the moral of the story will be lost on them.
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Guilty Spork posted:Oh, absolutely. The WWE had a giant storyline/stable making fun of the PTC as revenge for the ridiculous number of FCC complaints, they've done every ethnic stereotype imaginable, they've done some really phenomenally sexist stuff now and then, and there have been some storylines (like that one necrophilia angle) that even hardcore wrestling fans totally hated. But apparently making fun of poor people, rich people, black people, Japanese people, Mexicans, fat people, little people, the Irish, and women is fine, but mocking the tea party is where it went over the line. They can dish it out, but can't take it - I think they fundamentally cannot grasp the concept of humor...whenever they try to go toe to toe with Stewart or Colbert (or Franken), it fails spectacularly. I may start to watch the WWE now...this stuff sounds like it's pretty funny if you just take it at face value.
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bigtom posted:I may start to watch the WWE now...this stuff sounds like it's pretty funny if you just take it at face value. Keep in mind we handpicked like seven storylines from roughly a decade of 5+ hours of television a week. Its nowhere near as charming as it sounds.
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bigtom posted:I may start to watch the WWE now...this stuff sounds like it's pretty funny if you just take it at face value. It's like a soap opera for stupid men.
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Rockopolis posted:That makes them sound vulnerable to hacking, actually. How long before they start broadcasting Chinese propaganda? C'mon, you don't think someone hadn't thought of that already? CC got beat to the punch... http://www.boston.com/business/articles/2011/07/01/china_radio_takes_to_the_airwaves_in_boston/
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The problem with conservative humor is that it's all quote:There will be no laughter, except the laugh of triumph over a defeated enemy.
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eggsovereasy posted:It's like a soap opera for stupid men. There's a South Park that magnificently captures the spirit of Pro Wrestling. Find it and watch it you have not already.
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Feb 25, 2013 20:00
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Conservative humor isn't funny because we normally laugh AT Elmer Fudd when Bugs gets the best of him, not WITH him when he attacks Bugs Bunny.
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The_Raven posted:C'mon, you don't think someone hadn't thought of that already? CC got beat to the punch... China Radio is in a few US markets, DC and Houston come come to mind (there's certainly many others). They buy time on leased AM stations. Their communist content is more informative and less offensive then the media wing of a major US political party.
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Pro wrestling at least honestly admits to being brainless entertainment, which for me puts it far above the average right wing hack.
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Didn't stop John Stosel's dumb rear end from getting punched in the face trying to prove that wrestling is fake.
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JumpinJackFlash posted:Didn't stop John Stosel's dumb rear end from getting punched in the face trying to prove that wrestling is fake. Correction, slapped so hard he went deaf in that ear. Dr. D David Schultz was a hero among men for that.
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JumpinJackFlash posted:Didn't stop John Stosel's dumb rear end from getting punched in the face trying to prove that wrestling is fake. You have to remember that back then wrestlers where terrified that if everyone found out that it was all fake then they'd stop coming and they'd be out of a job. By wandering in, being condescending and accusing it of being fake it gave wrestlers two choices. Ignore him and walk away thus giving light to the fact that they weren't the violent lunatics they portrayed or punch them in the face like Buzz Aldrin did to that Truther idiot. He's just lucky it was the 1970's and not the 1940's where a journalist confronted Dory Funk Sr while he ate with his family and so Dory Funk beat the poo poo out of him and tried to literally bite a chunk out of the reporter's arse.
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Rockopolis posted:That makes them sound vulnerable to hacking, actually. How long before they start broadcasting Chinese propaganda? Easy....just hijack the EAS encoder! Somewhat easy to do, since engineers sometimes forget to change the default passowrds. Like this guy did for the Zombie attack in Montana: http://www.mercurynews.com/weird-news/ci_22589105/hack-that-broadcast-zombie-attack-warning-due-easy That reminds me...I should check to see if our EAS units are still on the factory defaults...
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Going back to WWE, they've decided to induct Trump into their Hall of Fame. He let them host 2 Wrestlemanias and he's a good friend of Vince McMahon's. That'll improve their image.
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Vertical Lime posted:Going back to WWE, they've decided to induct Trump into their Hall of Fame. He let them host 2 Wrestlemanias and he's a good friend of Vince McMahon's. This is all to spite glenn beck. Glenn beck did his stuff, poo poo on the wwe and vince said "Ok, come onto raw this monday I will give you 5 uninterrupted minutes to say what you want to the WWE about this LIVE." Glenn blew it off, and vince well vince is insane and now we are likely to have 3 solid hours tonight of just making GBS threads on beck.  Information given to me via irc. [19:09] <@vlime> Glenn Beck has declined WWE’s invitation to address our fans live tonight on Raw, in response to a segment that aired on TheBlaze last week where Beck referenced WWE as “stupid wrestling people.” Instead, WWE is sending a video crew to Beck’s studios to get comment from the talk show host and political commentator. Tune-in to Monday Night Raw tonight at 8/7C on USA Network to see if Beck [19:09] <@vlime> responds. This will be a good night.
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I just had the pleasure of listening to Marketplace whitewash the whole European beef scandal. Apparently it's "no big deal" because really, who believed that there was actually beef inside that package of "100% beef"? It's an "ick" issue, not a "food safety" issue. In fact, it even may be a good thing if you were a humane-minded locovore, because what if the horses were locally grown and raised humanely? WE JUST DON'T KNOW, KAI. ...or maybe it's diseased old racehorses pumped full of unsafe drugs like the tests seem to be showing, and the fact that "we just don't know" where the meat came from is actually a huge food safety issue in and of itself.  left wing media
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Paul MaudDib posted:I just had the pleasure of listening to Marketplace whitewash the whole European beef scandal. Apparently it's "no big deal" because really, who believed that there was actually beef inside that package of "100% beef"? It's an "ick" issue, not a "food safety" issue. In fact, it even may be a good thing if you were a humane-minded locovore, because what if the horses were locally grown and raised humanely? WE JUST DON'T KNOW, KAI.
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Paul MaudDib posted:I just had the pleasure of listening to Marketplace whitewash the whole European beef scandal. Apparently it's "no big deal" because really, who believed that there was actually beef inside that package of "100% beef"? It's an "ick" issue, not a "food safety" issue. In fact, it even may be a good thing if you were a humane-minded locovore, because what if the horses were locally grown and raised humanely? WE JUST DON'T KNOW, KAI. Eh, I heard that segment, which was actually from PRI's The World. http://www.theworld.org/2013/02/hor...ture-giant-ikea The guy they interview is a food writer and is obviously approaching it from a culinary perspective first, but does acknowledge that there are severe implications in regard to the safety of the food supply and truth in advertising. Not exactly the best take on the subject, but I think calling it whitewashing is going a bit too far.
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Kiwi Bigtree posted:Correction, slapped so hard he went deaf in that ear. I went looking for this video thinking it would be amusing -- because gently caress John Stossel -- but that wrestler's clearly a tremendous rear end in a top hat for doing it.
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So the wwe rather then spending the entire program mocking glenn beck, sent one of their main commentators with a crew to his studio minutes before beck went on the air. Beck wouldn't even have his people say he was in the building. And then they called him a coward for not even responding then. Vince seems to be playing a longer game... Also Donald Trump is entering the WWE hall of fame (as a celebrity) I am not sure how much the donald is in favor with the republican and right wing media crowd but he does like him some Wrassling. http://www.wwe.com/videos/wwe-interview-request-for-glenn-beck-february-25-2013-26094428 Linky Linky. Now will beck respond? Because I love seeing trainwrecks.
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AtomikKrab posted:So the wwe rather then spending the entire program mocking glenn beck, sent one of their main commentators with a crew to his studio minutes before beck went on the air. Beck wouldn't even have his people say he was in the building. And then they called him a coward for not even responding then. Vince seems to be playing a longer game... Also Donald Trump is entering the WWE hall of fame (as a celebrity) I am not sure how much the donald is in favor with the republican and right wing media crowd but he does like him some Wrassling. They're getting you hooked. In two weeks, the Glenn Beck-Vince McMahon cage match gets announced.
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cafel posted:The guy they interview is a food writer and is obviously approaching it from a culinary perspective first, but does acknowledge that there are severe implications in regard to the safety of the food supply and truth in advertising. Not exactly the best take on the subject, but I think calling it whitewashing is going a bit too far. I guess I just expected more from NPR's coverage of a critical food safety issue than having a food snob on to say "Heh, you plebs have no idea what you're putting in your mouth anyway  ".And the "expert" did say straight up that it was perfectly safe, which is definitely not a given now that bute and other drugs are showing up in the meat. That's the problem with not knowing where it comes from, you don't know if it's got bute or Mad Cow Disease or who knows what in there because it didn't enter the meat supply though legitimate channels. For me this is where it crossed the line from being really bad coverage into outright Fox-level misinformation. Paul MaudDib fucked around with this message at 15:40 on Feb 26, 2013 |
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You are right about certain NPR shows being disingenuous, namely Allied Bank presents NPR's Planet Money brought to you by Allied Bank, sponsored by Allied Bank.
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PostNouveau posted:I went looking for this video thinking it would be amusing -- because gently caress John Stossel -- but that wrestler's clearly a tremendous rear end in a top hat for doing it. One of the rules at the time was that you always stayed in character no matter what. Dr. D's character was that he was a huge abusive redneck rear end in a top hat. He was also obeying McMahon's orders. Vince had essentially told the wrestlers to hit Stossel really hard if he tried to suggest it was fake. A similar thing happened with Hulk Hogan and Richard Belzer.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1iRdUwnFWo&feature=player_embedded Michele Malkin, mother of god.
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Kiwi Bigtree posted:One of the rules at the time was that you always stayed in character no matter what. Dr. D's character was that he was a huge abusive redneck rear end in a top hat. He was also obeying McMahon's orders. Vince had essentially told the wrestlers to hit Stossel really hard if he tried to suggest it was fake. A similar thing happened with Hulk Hogan and Richard Belzer. Is that actually true? If it is, shouldn't either the wrestlers or McMahon himself have been charged with assault? The video of Hogan dropping Richard Belzer like a bag of rocks is nuts. Even the Hulk has an "oh poo poo, this is bad" look on his face when he sees the back of Belzer's head. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7n_SHrK408
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Rhesus Pieces posted:Is that actually true? If it is, shouldn't either the wrestlers or McMahon himself have been charged with assault? quote:On December 28, 1984, during an interview for 20/20 on professional wrestling, wrestler David Schultz struck Stossel after Stossel stated that he thought professional wrestling was "fake". Stossel stated that he suffered from pain and buzzing in his ears eight weeks after the assault.[74] Stossel sued and obtained a settlement of $425,000 from the World Wrestling Federation (WWF). In his book, Myths, Lies, and Downright Stupidity, he writes that he has come to regret doing so, having adopted the belief that lawsuits harm many innocent people.[75] Schultz maintains that he attacked Stossel on orders from Vince McMahon, the head of the then-WWF.[76]
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